UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 345.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 16, 2022, 07:01:31 PM

I don't see manchester united as a candidate to win the europa league, given the bad form of manchester united i don't see them reaching the final and being champions, there are still great teams like arsenal, barcelona, juventus and so many others that have a better chance of winning the europe league, we'll see how manchester united will do against barcelona, they've been betting a lot on having good defense, but in these friendly games manchester united didn't do well in defense maybe it's because their main players were in the world cup, maybe be a good argument to justify these bad results. but I don't particularly see manchester united as a team that will reach the final of the europe league

They may not have a big advantage over Barcelona, but if they could get a win there then it would be easier to do all the other parts. I am not saying that they will have a win or anything, they will most probably lose to Barcelona that is for sure but if somehow football gods are with them that day and they get a win, then there is a possibility that they can beat other teams too.

Arsenal and Juventus seems like biggest opponents, and if they beat Barcelona, then there is no reason why they can't beat the others. Obviously this is all with the huge "if" they beat Barcelona which I think will not happen so all the other parts are just speculation.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on December 16, 2022, 02:51:25 PM

In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

What I know is that they never even got this title because when their era was in its golden age when Messi played at Barcelona they were immediately in the Champions League until when Messi left they just returned to the Europa League but haven't even got it yet.
But indeed talking about last season's Europa League final actually there was good hope even though in the end there were also many surprises here.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 17, 2022, 09:26:58 AM

It would be a big mistake to say the Champions League doesn't have big teams playing there. In fact some giant teams are still there. Call it the king of the Champions League Real Madrid, regular customers like Bayern Munich, and several other teams like Manchester City and others.
The European League is indeed not like usual, there will be hot tension in every match that will be held here. The big teams will compete in strategy after they failed to qualify from the Champions League.

That is very clear indeed and everyone also knows that in the Champions League there are still very many big teams that will compete this season even though some of them have dropped to the Europa League and made the competition in the Europa League even better. Because a team like Barcelona, which still has a lot of fans, will meet an English team that also still has a lot of fans for this season, so there will be more fierce competition in the Europa League this season.

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In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

What I know is that Barcelona have never even won the UEL trophy, Barcelona always appear in the Champions League and very rarely fail in the group stage. The last two years have been unlucky seasons for Barcelona, they failed to advance to the Champions League knockout rounds and had to go down to UEL. The Barcelona vs Manchester United match is presented too quickly in UEL, one of them will definitely fall, whether it's Barcelona or Manchester United. The UEL final this time is like the UCL final, because this season there are more big teams at UEL. Arsenal, which has performed well this season, is one of the favorite teams besides Barcelona, Manchester United, Ajax and Juventus.

Yes, Barcelona is one of the teams that often plays in the Champions League, and I agree that recently it might have been unlucky for them to be knocked out of the Champions League because they failed in the group phase. Disappointment, of course, for those who frequently appear in the Champions League to have to go down to the Europa League.
This is the second season for Xavi Hernandez to bring Barcelona to the European League. Actually these were the pros and cons for him because on the one hand he managed to improve the team's performance, on the other hand he failed in prestigious competitions.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on December 16, 2022, 02:51:25 PM

In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

What I know is that Barcelona have never even won the UEL trophy, Barcelona always appear in the Champions League and very rarely fail in the group stage. The last two years have been unlucky seasons for Barcelona, they failed to advance to the Champions League knockout rounds and had to go down to UEL. The Barcelona vs Manchester United match is presented too quickly in UEL, one of them will definitely fall, whether it's Barcelona or Manchester United. The UEL final this time is like the UCL final, because this season there are more big teams at UEL. Arsenal, which has performed well this season, is one of the favorite teams besides Barcelona, Manchester United, Ajax and Juventus.

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In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

This season even looks almost the same if a comparison is made in terms of the teams that entered in these two competitions. This season's European League has matches that will be very interesting because several teams that failed in the Champions League have already gone down to the Europa League. However, that does not mean that in the Champions League there are no good and strong teams that will compete this season, because several teams that still look strong this season are still there.

It would be a big mistake to say the Champions League doesn't have big teams playing there. In fact some giant teams are still there. Call it the king of the Champions League Real Madrid, regular customers like Bayern Munich, and several other teams like Manchester City and others.
The European League is indeed not like usual, there will be hot tension in every match that will be held here. The big teams will compete in strategy after they failed to qualify from the Champions League.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 17, 2022, 05:04:42 AM

If Manchester United has any desire to target the Europa League, Ten Hag's men have that opportunity. however, the road facing United first was toppling Barcelona. yes, Ten Hag must make sure his troops overthrow Barcelona first. the reason is, the Europa League playoffs still have a long time lag for United. that way, United still have plenty of opportunities to improve their troops. I'm sure, Ten Hag is a coach who will bring United even better after Ferguson left. United's only problem at the moment is not having a real striker. Game-wise, Manchester United is on the right track. it's just that, Ten Hag still needs his troops to be able to compete at various levels of competition.

Yes, Arsenal is a strong candidate. however, trouble came to the Gunners after one of their strikers was confirmed absent due to injury. As for Barcelona, at least Xavi's troop squad must first prove a win in the playoffs. that way, they have the opportunity to compete for the Europa League trophy.

Manchester United still facing with Barcelona in play off round and seems not easy after leaving by Cristiano Ronaldo who have good record against Barcelona, I know with Manchester United is not strong candidate to win Europe League but seems realistic after looking opportunity with domestic league tittle almost close for Manchester United.

Europe League is most realistic chance for Manchester United to get tittle in this season with new manager Erik Tan Hag, but I think have little impact after conflict with Cristiano Ronaldo. He has experienced and know weakness from Barcelona after won several games trough still with Real Madrid and Juventus.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 16, 2022, 07:01:31 PM

I don't see manchester united as a candidate to win the europa league, given the bad form of manchester united i don't see them reaching the final and being champions, there are still great teams like arsenal, barcelona, juventus and so many others that have a better chance of winning the europe league, we'll see how manchester united will do against barcelona, they've been betting a lot on having good defense, but in these friendly games manchester united didn't do well in defense maybe it's because their main players were in the world cup, maybe be a good argument to justify these bad results. but I don't particularly see manchester united as a team that will reach the final of the europe league

If Manchester United has any desire to target the Europa League, Ten Hag's men have that opportunity. however, the road facing United first was toppling Barcelona. yes, Ten Hag must make sure his troops overthrow Barcelona first. the reason is, the Europa League playoffs still have a long time lag for United. that way, United still have plenty of opportunities to improve their troops. I'm sure, Ten Hag is a coach who will bring United even better after Ferguson left. United's only problem at the moment is not having a real striker. Game-wise, Manchester United is on the right track. it's just that, Ten Hag still needs his troops to be able to compete at various levels of competition.

Yes, Arsenal is a strong candidate. however, trouble came to the Gunners after one of their strikers was confirmed absent due to injury. As for Barcelona, at least Xavi's troop squad must first prove a win in the playoffs. that way, they have the opportunity to compete for the Europa League trophy.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 16, 2022, 02:57:25 PM

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Arsenal have actually been doing pretty good even in times Jesus wasn't able to score any goal. They went on winning by having productive matches in the English Premier League for example. Jesus hasn't been scoring a single goal in all tournaments since October 1. This must have affected his self-confidence in a bad way as well. Now this long running injury is even worse for him.

Arsenal can still go for a temporary striker in January of course. They will have only Nketiah as natural striker in the squad while Jesus is injured. They can secure themselves by doing this. Because if Nketiah also gets injured they would be in trouble.

In any case, Manchester United was not lucky with the draw against Barcelona. But Ten Hagwill also see this as a sporting challenge. In any case, they can eliminate at least 1 title competitor by beating Barcelona. I think it's a game that will go 50-50. The winner of this duel has a good chance to reach the final. To say that the winner is immediately title favorite, that is not. There are still too many good teams left for that. Juventus also wants to show how well it can still play. And what about Arsenal?

I'm also feeling like both teams in the Barcelona vs Manchester United matchup have a 50% chance for next stage. These teams are among the title contenders above all else. On paper, Barcelona are favoured for advancing to next stage maybe but things haven't been going very well for Barcelona in European tournaments like this recently. Their bad performance still persists in this season as well.

If they don't make an improvement in this performance then Manchester United can balance the game in both matches easily. January transfer window can also play a role in determining the winner of this matchup.

I don't see manchester united as a candidate to win the europa league, given the bad form of manchester united i don't see them reaching the final and being champions, there are still great teams like arsenal, barcelona, juventus and so many others that have a better chance of winning the europe league, we'll see how manchester united will do against barcelona, they've been betting a lot on having good defense, but in these friendly games manchester united didn't do well in defense maybe it's because their main players were in the world cup, maybe be a good argument to justify these bad results. but I don't particularly see manchester united as a team that will reach the final of the europe league

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In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

This season even looks almost the same if a comparison is made in terms of the teams that entered in these two competitions. This season's European League has matches that will be very interesting because several teams that failed in the Champions League have already gone down to the Europa League. However, that does not mean that in the Champions League there are no good and strong teams that will compete this season, because several teams that still look strong this season are still there.

just because there will be big teams doesn't mean that they will be interesting games, many of these big teams may not even be giving importance to the europe league games and are giving priority to the domestic league games, that's why i'm even going to avoid betting on those league games europa league when i see that the big teams are not playing with their best players

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on December 16, 2022, 02:51:25 PM

In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

This season even looks almost the same if a comparison is made in terms of the teams that entered in these two competitions. This season's European League has matches that will be very interesting because several teams that failed in the Champions League have already gone down to the Europa League. However, that does not mean that in the Champions League there are no good and strong teams that will compete this season, because several teams that still look strong this season are still there.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 14, 2022, 02:47:15 PM

Arsenal have actually been doing pretty good even in times Jesus wasn't able to score any goal. They went on winning by having productive matches in the English Premier League for example. Jesus hasn't been scoring a single goal in all tournaments since October 1. This must have affected his self-confidence in a bad way as well. Now this long running injury is even worse for him.

Arsenal can still go for a temporary striker in January of course. They will have only Nketiah as natural striker in the squad while Jesus is injured. They can secure themselves by doing this. Because if Nketiah also gets injured they would be in trouble.

I think it wouldn't be a wise decision to restart the league with one option in the attack for Arsenal. If they opt to bringing in a substitute striker to add to Eddie Nketiah it will be a brilliant idea after all. I hear the club wants to bring in Vlahovic and Murdryk from Shaktar in January. If Arsenal can get this deals through it will be the best options for the club.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on December 16, 2022, 12:52:05 AM

In order to make the Europa League attractive, it shows up in the Champions League, which is the champion of the Europa League, apart from that, there is nothing attractive for big clubs. In addition, big clubs are already participating in the Champions League by becoming champions in their own leagues or by entering the top 3-4. The Europa league and the later conference league (formerly the cup winners' cup) is an attractive destination for medium-sized and small cubes in Europe. If these tournaments had bigger sponsors and bigger prizes, I'm sure the big teams that were eliminated from the Champions League would fight here as well. Football is no longer entertainment, it's a big economy for clubs and countries.

Considering there are many clubs whose entire roster cost about 10-20 million, it is important to note that being at a good stage in europa or conference cup would be a great big deal for them. They could make millions, and spending millions to get better.

Look at Sherrif and last year and also this year, they were already good in their own league, and they made so much money in the past 2 years that I am pretty sure they will stay the best team of their nation for a long time thanks to all that money unless they spend it on players turn out to be horrible. Maybe big clubs do not care, but smaller clubs do. Big clubs only would want to win if they are there because they like winning, not because of money or fame or anything, but winning is the aim after all.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 14, 2022, 03:40:49 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on December 14, 2022, 02:47:15 PM

Arsenal have actually been doing pretty good even in times Jesus wasn't able to score any goal. They went on winning by having productive matches in the English Premier League for example. Jesus hasn't been scoring a single goal in all tournaments since October 1. This must have affected his self-confidence in a bad way as well. Now this long running injury is even worse for him.

Arsenal can still go for a temporary striker in January of course. They will have only Nketiah as natural striker in the squad while Jesus is injured. They can secure themselves by doing this. Because if Nketiah also gets injured they would be in trouble.

In any case, Manchester United was not lucky with the draw against Barcelona. But Ten Hagwill also see this as a sporting challenge. In any case, they can eliminate at least 1 title competitor by beating Barcelona. I think it's a game that will go 50-50. The winner of this duel has a good chance to reach the final. To say that the winner is immediately title favorite, that is not. There are still too many good teams left for that. Juventus also wants to show how well it can still play. And what about Arsenal?

I'm also feeling like both teams in the Barcelona vs Manchester United matchup have a 50% chance for next stage. These teams are among the title contenders above all else. On paper, Barcelona are favoured for advancing to next stage maybe but things haven't been going very well for Barcelona in European tournaments like this recently. Their bad performance still persists in this season as well.

If they don't make an improvement in this performance then Manchester United can balance the game in both matches easily. January transfer window can also play a role in determining the winner of this matchup.

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In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?

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Unfortunately, the big teams of Europe's big leagues do not think much about the Europa League. In fact, most of the Premier league teams do not care about the Europa League. Because the incomes are not as high as in the Champions League. That's why I think Barcelona's priority this year is La Liga. I don't think you can beat Real Madrid in La Liga either. Barcelona is currently in the restructuring phase. He is establishing a team that will mark the coming years and he needs time for this.

Yes, this is what is very unfortunate when the clubs in the Europa League do not take the competition seriously there, I think that's what we can see and reflect on in the previous season in the Europa League. Because a club that is taken for granted can even become champions in this Europa League, it proves that indeed they are not serious in competition here. But I hope this season will be different from previous seasons where they can take the competition in the Europa League seriously. Also by joining several big clubs it can motivate them to show their best to win trophies.

In order to make the Europa League attractive, it shows up in the Champions League, which is the champion of the Europa League, apart from that, there is nothing attractive for big clubs. In addition, big clubs are already participating in the Champions League by becoming champions in their own leagues or by entering the top 3-4. The Europa league and the later conference league (formerly the cup winners' cup) is an attractive destination for medium-sized and small cubes in Europe. If these tournaments had bigger sponsors and bigger prizes, I'm sure the big teams that were eliminated from the Champions League would fight here as well. Football is no longer entertainment, it's a big economy for clubs and countries.

the europa league is not a target that is the main reference for big teams but they will always provide more effective competition every game. I'm not surprised if Laporta says that they are more focused on fighting for the Laliga title than the Europa League, whether that's a ridiculous word or not, of course, Barcelona have a pretty tough rally in the Europa League because they have to face Manchester United in February. maybe this season the europa league is more interesting than the previous season because several big teams in the domestic league are participating in enlivening the europa league such as juventus, barcelona, manchester united and arsenal so that every game seems to have hot tension.

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Barcelona's priority is of course the La Liga championship this season. Because it has been three seasons since they last won this championship. It isn't acceptable at all for a team like Barcelona in the La Liga. In the end, Barcelona are not like a team which is resembling Dortmund in the Bundesliga. Barcelona's priority is always winning titles rather than choosing to concentrate on bringing young players and making profit in their sales. This season is their biggest opportunity to win the La Liga championship as they are the current leader.

But I don't think this means that they won't care about the Europa League much. On the contrary, I expect them to do their best here as well. Because they would make use of extra money considering their current financial status.

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Quote from: wmaurik on December 16, 2022, 08:54:40 AM

Arteta must see an opportunity in getting an experienced player in the upcoming transfer market in the same position as Jesus. And if Arteta doesn't manage to sign an experienced striker for the remainder of the season, I also doubt Arsenal will be able to maintain their apparent best form for the remainder of the season. Although I have no doubts about Arteta's efforts, he will also try his best to select a suitable player to replace Jesus at the start of next year.

Yes, Arteta might try to see opportunities regarding Arsenal's plans to recruit new players in the upcoming transfer market. The focus may not only be on strikers who are said to be the reason for replacing Jesus during his time out injured, but defense and midfield may also need attention. But sure, Arsenal need replacement striker for Jesus but I hope that's not the only idea about their plans in the transfer market.

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In order to make the Europa League attractive, it shows up in the Champions League, which is the champion of the Europa League, apart from that, there is nothing attractive for big clubs. In addition, big clubs are already participating in the Champions League by becoming champions in their own leagues or by entering the top 3-4. The Europa league and the later conference league (formerly the cup winners' cup) is an attractive destination for medium-sized and small cubes in Europe. If these tournaments had bigger sponsors and bigger prizes, I'm sure the big teams that were eliminated from the Champions League would fight here as well. Football is no longer entertainment, it's a big economy for clubs and countries.

Football style have change right now from entertainment to be big economy or financial side for many team participants, I sure with Europe League seems not excited comparison with Champion League, beside have small team finish under top fourth standing in their domestic league but also small prizes or reward achievement make second European competition is not interested.

Have different participants this season in Europe League after several top team failure lead to Champion League knock out and make them have to play in Europe League like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax Amsterdam and Bayern Leverkusen. I think UEFA need change regulation about prizes given for the winner in this competition.

This is absolutely.
Football is a big industry now. An example of this is the World Cup being held in Qatar. In addition, betting companies also pose a serious threat to football. I don't think the results of some matches in this world cup are normal. I can't prove it, but I think this is handicapping. Sponsorships, jersey ads, etc. There are many fields such as If it weren't for the industry, many rich people wouldn't have bought themselves a football team. I don't remember the club bought until the early 2000s (Chelsea comes to my mind first).

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Quote from: ajanwalker on December 16, 2022, 12:52:05 AM

In order to make the Europa League attractive, it shows up in the Champions League, which is the champion of the Europa League, apart from that, there is nothing attractive for big clubs. In addition, big clubs are already participating in the Champions League by becoming champions in their own leagues or by entering the top 3-4. The Europa league and the later conference league (formerly the cup winners' cup) is an attractive destination for medium-sized and small cubes in Europe. If these tournaments had bigger sponsors and bigger prizes, I'm sure the big teams that were eliminated from the Champions League would fight here as well. Football is no longer entertainment, it's a big economy for clubs and countries.

Football style have change right now from entertainment to be big economy or financial side for many team participants, I sure with Europe League seems not excited comparison with Champion League, beside have small team finish under top fourth standing in their domestic league but also small prizes or reward achievement make second European competition is not interested.

Have different participants this season in Europe League after several top team failure lead to Champion League knock out and make them have to play in Europe League like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax Amsterdam and Bayern Leverkusen. I think UEFA need change regulation about prizes given for the winner in this competition.

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Quote from: wmaurik on December 16, 2022, 08:54:40 AM

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Of course it is very unfortunate for Arsenal, when they are in good form, even their flagship players have to be absent for a long time to recover from injuries. Jesus is a new mainstay for Arteta, losing him will certainly make the Gunners' attack line shaky. However, finding the right replacement is not an easy matter for Arteta and he cannot rely on the players currently in his squad, that is very risky. Although difficult, an experienced striker must be brought Arsenal.

Arteta must see an opportunity in getting an experienced player in the upcoming transfer market in the same position as Jesus. And if Arteta doesn't manage to sign an experienced striker for the remainder of the season, I also doubt Arsenal will be able to maintain their apparent best form for the remainder of the season. Although I have no doubts about Arteta's efforts, he will also try his best to select a suitable player to replace Jesus at the start of next year.

Arteta believes in Nketiah's ability and I don't think he will want to sign an attacker again in the transfer window coming by January.He is planning on signing Sharkter Donesk winger Mykylo Murdryk who is currently their best player at the club,he will play in either of the wings,or they will use him to play as a center forward in the absent of Gabriel Jesus.Arsenal are looking at the possibility of signing only two or three quality players who can fit into the style of Arsenal play and adapt to the system immediately.Therefore,I think Arsenal will get a player from the English premier league club,somebody that already knows the system of play in England.
In all,Arteta will try to maximise the player he has to get the results he wants.

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