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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on December 11, 2022, 03:26:49 PM

Barcelona are playing better than last season, with the note that they now also have Lewandowsky at their disposal. I don't know with what attitude Barcelona approached the Season in the EL. They want to win as many trophies as possible, but elimination in the CL and being sentenced to the EL feels like a defeat for a club like Barcelona. They are good enough to win the tournament, but they are also motivated enough. Last season they underestimated the situation in the match against Frankfurt. Let's assume they learned a lesson from that. In any case, not a nice draw for the eighth final.

There are many points that we can review from Barcelona this season, Barcelona's elimination in the Champions League is not without reason. apart from several players absent due to injury, Barcelona is also in the stage of rebuilding their strength to be on par with other big clubs in European competition. unfortunately, Xavi is too confident with their young players. especially, in midfield.
I don't doubt Lewandowski's sharpness, it's just that young Barcelona players don't have much experience. they tend to underperform against strong teams like Bayern Munich, even Barcelona have difficulty beating Inter. Xavi has a job that is not easy, to bring Barcelona to win various trophies.
I wouldn't be surprised if Manchester United will be different after the league rolls back. especially if Ten Hag manages to bring the centre-forward to Old Trafford this January. if Barcelona underestimate MU, it is not impossible that they will be eliminated in the playoffs later. This fight will be a test for both teams.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 11, 2022, 05:28:19 AM

Manchester United, Chelsea and even Liverpool are interested in signing Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong is an outstanding midfielder. I would even say the most important player in Barcelona's midfield is Frenkie de Jong. If Frenkie de Jong leaves Barcelona, Barcelona's midfield will be completely unstable. And so maybe Xavi won't be interested in letting go of Frenkie de Jong at the moment.

Even before the start of the season, Manchester United tried their best to sign Frenkie de Jong. But Frenkie de Jong was not interested in leaving Barcelona. But if Barcelona wants to buy new players in the winter transfer, they have no choice but to sell Frenkie de Jong to make money. I am waiting to see what decision the Barcelona management will take.

Manchester United still running around Frankie De Jong comes as a surprise to me because this is same player that rejected a move to join United in the summer repeatedly and opted to remain at Barcelona even when Barcelona couldn't bare his wage weight. I'm just wondering what gives Manchester United the confidence that they can get him anyway. Barcelona have stated he is not for sale, I don't see any of this transfers to either Chelsea or Liverpool happening in January.

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we can no longer talk about Barcelona's internal problems because this issue has always been discussed since the start of the season but in fact Barcelona's performance has been quite good this season, now they are at the top of the La Liga standings and in terms of performance they are also continuing to improve.
and against Manchester United in February was a testament to them, and I agree that if Barcelona can overcome this hurdle then they are very favorites this season to win the Europa League, and for sure Barcelona this season is much better than last season.

I do agree that they do not look like they have a big problem right now, they are playing as good as they could possibly play and that's good enough for them. I personally believe that they are going to win both the league and also europa together. I haven't really checked their domestic cup, are they still playing there? May win that too who knows.

It's the team chemistry that matters and they look like they play with each other perfectly well, which is a proof that we shouldn't really be doing anything shocking at all if we see them keep winning. Real also doesn't look good without Benzema scoring and assisting a lot, that's what made them so good last year, and don't have that so far this season.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 11, 2022, 05:28:19 AM

Manchester United, Chelsea and even Liverpool are interested in signing Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong is an outstanding midfielder. I would even say the most important player in Barcelona's midfield is Frenkie de Jong. If Frenkie de Jong leaves Barcelona, Barcelona's midfield will be completely unstable. And so maybe Xavi won't be interested in letting go of Frenkie de Jong at the moment.

Even before the start of the season, Manchester United tried their best to sign Frenkie de Jong. But Frenkie de Jong was not interested in leaving Barcelona. But if Barcelona wants to buy new players in the winter transfer, they have no choice but to sell Frenkie de Jong to make money. I am waiting to see what decision the Barcelona management will take.

Most chances now just because of UEFA fair play rule now Barcelona can't buy or sell new players in this Winter transfer window which is surely not good for them but still club President about this all they will follow the rules, and they will not do anything regarding about this with this now all rumours could be ended about De Jong future until end of season he is not going anywhere and will stay in Barcelona which is surely good for him and his club.

If Barcelona is going to win La Liga surely this could be good for them and with this Champions League performance could be next target for them in coming season because if they want to have better financial situation then surely they have to settle things on positive way and having better performance on both competition is must for this.

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Barcelona are playing better than last season, with the note that they now also have Lewandowsky at their disposal. I don't know with what attitude Barcelona approached the Season in the EL. They want to win as many trophies as possible, but elimination in the CL and being sentenced to the EL feels like a defeat for a club like Barcelona. They are good enough to win the tournament, but they are also motivated enough. Last season they underestimated the situation in the match against Frankfurt. Let's assume they learned a lesson from that. In any case, not a nice draw for the eighth final.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on December 09, 2022, 01:59:13 PM

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This season Barcelona doesn't seem to be favored in European competitions including the Europa League, but they might learn a lot after failing in the Champions League. Even if Barcelona have to lose to Manchester United, then this season Barcelona will really be the most not advantaged team considering that all of their opponents on the European stage are strong teams. In the Champions League they were in the same group as Bayern Munich and Inter, and now they meet Manchester United in the Europa League, do you think that is bad luck for Barcelona?

From what I imagine, Barcelona can beat Manchester United the way they are at the moment. Xavi will ask all of his players to stay focused on trying to win the game, but of course Barcelona must keep trying to defend well during the game. Manchester United is very different now, Rashford has been very good at the moment and that will put Barcelona's defense at risk.

Barcelona can't predictable about their chance with UEFA Europe League tittle learned from last season beaten by unfavorite team Eintracht Frankfurt at quarter final, have consistency performance in La Liga and managed with first standing position keep not guarantee with Barcelona chance to get Europe League trophy in this season. Have to face with Manchester United in play off round before another drawing match.

Watching how long Barcelona journey in Europe League this season after failure at Champion League can exist and get first trophy under Xavi Hernandez become Barcelona manager? he was failed last season with Barcelona can't win any trophy yet and bad memorize when beating by Eintracht Frankfurt in Europe League.

I think Barcelona is not as bad now as last season, so the chance for them is bigger of course. The thing that becomes a problem when they have to meet a big team at the start, namely the play-off round, so I might agree if this season they are so unlucky because they have to face a big team when they want to start. In the Champions League in the group stages and now in the play offs. Many say that Barcelona is the favorite in this match, but Manchester United cannot be underestimated under Ten Hag.

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Quote from: bekti3 on December 11, 2022, 12:15:40 PM

Their exit from the Champions makes this a problem indeed because they haven't been good enough and being knocked out of the Champions League is proof of that.
Talking about dismissals can still be reasonable because with the many expenses they have made, they really have to have the target of being at the highest center, especially in terms of trophies and when that target is not met, it is indeed very natural that talk of dismissals will continue to be heard.

After arrival of Xavi they are improving performance, but surely things could be good for them in coming seasons as well because now they have good strategy and with this leading into La Liga is good development for them which will help them for having more development in coming months even Xavi is currently working on just La Liga which make sense because this success a being good confidence into player which will help them for having better results they bought few big players which surely increased quality and have expenses, but team will be in good position and quality is also at the top which will help but still Champions League exit is big shame for them specially losing badly against Bayern Munich at home.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 11, 2022, 12:01:14 PM

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we can no longer talk about Barcelona's internal problems because this issue has always been discussed since the start of the season but in fact Barcelona's performance has been quite good this season, now they are at the top of the La Liga standings and in terms of performance they are also continuing to improve.
and against Manchester United in February was a testament to them, and I agree that if Barcelona can overcome this hurdle then they are very favorites this season to win the Europa League, and for sure Barcelona this season is much better than last season.

If Barcelona are good this season, how did they end up in the Europa League? Grin

And why did Javi talk so much about his dismissal? I think that Barcelona is nowhere near as good as expected when they invented all those levers to find money for a serious transfer campaign. Judging by the results of the big games, United will be the favourite.

Their exit from the Champions makes this a problem indeed because they haven't been good enough and being knocked out of the Champions League is proof of that.
Talking about dismissals can still be reasonable because with the many expenses they have made, they really have to have the target of being at the highest center, especially in terms of trophies and when that target is not met, it is indeed very natural that talk of dismissals will continue to be heard.

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we can no longer talk about Barcelona's internal problems because this issue has always been discussed since the start of the season but in fact Barcelona's performance has been quite good this season, now they are at the top of the La Liga standings and in terms of performance they are also continuing to improve.
and against Manchester United in February was a testament to them, and I agree that if Barcelona can overcome this hurdle then they are very favorites this season to win the Europa League, and for sure Barcelona this season is much better than last season.

If Barcelona are good this season, how did they end up in the Europa League? Grin

And why did Javi talk so much about his dismissal? I think that Barcelona is nowhere near as good as expected when they invented all those levers to find money for a serious transfer campaign. Judging by the results of the big games, United will be the favourite.

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I don't think with Barcelona's internal problem about salary cut off right now because all player have rumor move from Barcelona are agree with new salary system and almost half season not any rumor yet with salary cut off. Barcelona have consistency performance right now lead top standing position in La Liga behind two points from rival Real Madrid. Seems not any problem yet with Barcelona's financial right now and they have recovering with their player salary.
Another rumor with Frankie de Jong looks have close after keep staying with Barcelona in this season and not reach agreement deal and offering from Manchester United want to sign him.

Even things are not clear in Barcelona because right now nothing is clear who is going to leave and who is having extension in contract it all depends on their strategy for the better financial solution with most chances they will keep few players those will be happy in their salary cut and De Jong is also one of the players those want to stick here and can go with their salary cut because he already refuse club for the Manchester United even they were happy to give him better salary, but their performance is also concern for few top quality players.
Currently, Barcelona is at the top of Spanish League table, and they can do good in Europa Cup as well with their first match is against Manchester United in February if they are able to win then surely they could be favourite for the title here as well.

I do not see how the wage problem might have fed Barcelona's performance in recent times. I think, however, that they should really try to cling on to Frenkie de Jong as he has proven to be a valuable asset for the team for the last couple of years.

The rumors that I have heard are that he could be linked with a possible transfer to Manchester United in the near future. However, I strongly believe that the Barcelona management should do everything they can in order to hold onto him because he is one of the few experienced players in the midfield, since all the other players are really young, and Sergio Busquets is outdated. So, only time will tell what the future holds for Franky de Jong.

Manchester United, Chelsea and even Liverpool are interested in signing Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong is an outstanding midfielder. I would even say the most important player in Barcelona's midfield is Frenkie de Jong. If Frenkie de Jong leaves Barcelona, Barcelona's midfield will be completely unstable. And so maybe Xavi won't be interested in letting go of Frenkie de Jong at the moment.

Even before the start of the season, Manchester United tried their best to sign Frenkie de Jong. But Frenkie de Jong was not interested in leaving Barcelona. But if Barcelona wants to buy new players in the winter transfer, they have no choice but to sell Frenkie de Jong to make money. I am waiting to see what decision the Barcelona management will take.

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Quote from: wiss19 on December 10, 2022, 04:32:50 PM

Quote from: Oneandpure on December 10, 2022, 08:21:07 AM

I don't think with Barcelona's internal problem about salary cut off right now because all player have rumor move from Barcelona are agree with new salary system and almost half season not any rumor yet with salary cut off. Barcelona have consistency performance right now lead top standing position in La Liga behind two points from rival Real Madrid. Seems not any problem yet with Barcelona's financial right now and they have recovering with their player salary.
Another rumor with Frankie de Jong looks have close after keep staying with Barcelona in this season and not reach agreement deal and offering from Manchester United want to sign him.

Even things are not clear in Barcelona because right now nothing is clear who is going to leave and who is having extension in contract it all depends on their strategy for the better financial solution with most chances they will keep few players those will be happy in their salary cut and De Jong is also one of the players those want to stick here and can go with their salary cut because he already refuse club for the Manchester United even they were happy to give him better salary, but their performance is also concern for few top quality players.
Currently, Barcelona is at the top of Spanish League table, and they can do good in Europa Cup as well with their first match is against Manchester United in February if they are able to win then surely they could be favourite for the title here as well.

I do not see how the wage problem might have fed Barcelona's performance in recent times. I think, however, that they should really try to cling on to Frenkie de Jong as he has proven to be a valuable asset for the team for the last couple of years.

The rumors that I have heard are that he could be linked with a possible transfer to Manchester United in the near future. However, I strongly believe that the Barcelona management should do everything they can in order to hold onto him because he is one of the few experienced players in the midfield, since all the other players are really young, and Sergio Busquets is outdated. So, only time will tell what the future holds for Franky de Jong.

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I think you are not reading all things clearly so talking like this Barcelona is trying their best for offloading De Jong, but he is not happy to leave this club with two things are happening first is he wants to settle errors, and secondly he is still in love with this club but right now Barcelona is having big issues with their Debit and just because of this they are trying to off load few players with high salaries and which have big value in market in last summer transfer window Manchester United was agreed about his all terms but sadly at the end player was not happy with Barcelona about his errors, so he can't reject this transfer now we have again three big clubs those are interested but sadly again Barcelona is having issues in his salary errors, so they are not going to solve this which are creating confuse with this he is not going to leave this club again.

Barcelona's internal problems, especially regarding salary, should not affect its performance in every match. Barcelona has so far been good at seeing success in several available competitions, be it Laliga, Europa League or Copa Del Rey. I don't think the club's financial problems will undermine all Barcelona's desire to do something big this season.

De Jong must be maintained by Barcelona until the end of the season. He is a good player for Barcelona, so I don't think Barcelona will sell his assets to Manchester United or to another team.

In every organisation, not being able to pay wages of the employees or workers will always been a problem. I think in my working experience that kills motivation you get to work and so does it apply even in a football club. Probably Barcelona have been able to sort out the wages owed to De Jong and I also read a statement from the club president that says they are not thinking of selling the player in the January window, the fair play restrictions have past and he is staying so I expect to see De Jong at Barcelona after January.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on December 10, 2022, 08:21:07 AM

I don't think with Barcelona's internal problem about salary cut off right now because all player have rumor move from Barcelona are agree with new salary system and almost half season not any rumor yet with salary cut off. Barcelona have consistency performance right now lead top standing position in La Liga behind two points from rival Real Madrid. Seems not any problem yet with Barcelona's financial right now and they have recovering with their player salary.

Another rumor with Frankie de Jong looks have close after keep staying with Barcelona in this season and not reach agreement deal and offering from Manchester United want to sign him.

Even things are not clear in Barcelona because right now nothing is clear who is going to leave and who is having extension in contract it all depends on their strategy for the better financial solution with most chances they will keep few players those will be happy in their salary cut and De Jong is also one of the players those want to stick here and can go with their salary cut because he already refuse club for the Manchester United even they were happy to give him better salary, but their performance is also concern for few top quality players.

Currently, Barcelona is at the top of Spanish League table, and they can do good in Europa Cup as well with their first match is against Manchester United in February if they are able to win then surely they could be favourite for the title here as well.

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I'm curious about Roma's performance also in the Europa League. They had a very successful season in the Europa Conference League as you know. They won the title with a really great effort. Their performance in the Serie A is still the same now. So I wonder if this might be a sign that they would care about the Europa League more than the Serie A this season. Mourinho really need to achieve some success again. Because this performance in the Serie A is not satisfying for the fans at all.

But Roma have a really difficult job ahead. Because the current teams in the Europa League are really challenging. There are many more tough teams compared to the Europa Conference League. Roma will need to play with their main players as much as possible to increase their chance. Maybe their schedule will be tight but they need to deal with this as they are already used to it.

Roma was in pool position for the Serie A title and having good performance in Europa Cup as well but things looking not good as they have serious trouble in Serie A title, and they also ended at second in group stage here in Europa Cup which mean they need to improve their performance if they want to have better results in coming matches with most chances now they already out of title race and here in Europa Cup they have chance, but tough challenges are waiting for them in coming weeks as well.

Mourinho trying his best but sadly his strategy is not doing good things for Roma which is surely a big problem but how they will manage things in coming weeks this is also big question for them because with current form they can't go good in both competitions.

Jose Mourinho is a good Coach no body can argue that fact
But he knows his problem and the solution already.
Nobody need tell Jose Mourinho about his old style of tactics he should upgrade or resign permanently

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 10, 2022, 04:02:34 PM

I'm curious about Roma's performance also in the Europa League. They had a very successful season in the Europa Conference League as you know. They won the title with a really great effort. Their performance in the Serie A is still the same now. So I wonder if this might be a sign that they would care about the Europa League more than the Serie A this season. Mourinho really need to achieve some success again. Because this performance in the Serie A is not satisfying for the fans at all.

But Roma have a really difficult job ahead. Because the current teams in the Europa League are really challenging. There are many more tough teams compared to the Europa Conference League. Roma will need to play with their main players as much as possible to increase their chance. Maybe their schedule will be tight but they need to deal with this as they are already used to it.

Roma was in pool position for the Serie A title and having good performance in Europa Cup as well but things looking not good as they have serious trouble in Serie A title, and they also ended at second in group stage here in Europa Cup which mean they need to improve their performance if they want to have better results in coming matches with most chances now they already out of title race and here in Europa Cup they have chance, but tough challenges are waiting for them in coming weeks as well.

Mourinho trying his best but sadly his strategy is not doing good things for Roma which is surely a big problem but how they will manage things in coming weeks this is also big question for them because with current form they can't go good in both competitions.

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I'm curious about Roma's performance also in the Europa League. They had a very successful season in the Europa Conference League as you know. They won the title with a really great effort. Their performance in the Serie A is still the same now. So I wonder if this might be a sign that they would care about the Europa League more than the Serie A this season. Mourinho really need to achieve some success again. Because this performance in the Serie A is not satisfying for the fans at all.

But Roma have a really difficult job ahead. Because the current teams in the Europa League are really challenging. There are many more tough teams compared to the Europa Conference League. Roma will need to play with their main players as much as possible to increase their chance. Maybe their schedule will be tight but they need to deal with this as they are already used to it.

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I guess Barcelona would be regretting and not happy for not qualifying in the Champions league and would not not want to perform the same way like they did in the Champions League. Barcelona are in better form than Manchester United, Barcelona already has a good player who is known for scoring goals in every match which is Lewandowski. Barcelona would not want to have bad results in Europa league so they will try their best to be consistent in Europa.

Most chances they will be not regretting about this all as they are big club, and they will try to improve their quality and performance for the future instead of regretting about this all Xavi is doing amazing job, and they are on course of recovery as they were badly struggling for last few years right now they are at the top of La Liga and if they are able to carry on with this same attitude then most chances they will be able to win title and have good chance for doing better performance in next season.

Bringing few quality players and having good unit of quality players was their first priority, and now they are doing work on better strategy which will help them for having better results in all competitions for long run now for their better achievements we have to wait for their next match against Manchester United how their response in the Europa Cup after drop from Champions League.

I commend Xavi, he has done very well with Barcelona, he’s made good effort in recruiting fresh legs to boost the squad and so far this has been instrumental to the team's good performance in the league this season too bad they got eliminated in the group stages of the champions league. We shall see how well they can respond from the disappointing spell in the Champions league when they face Manchester United in the playoffs.

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Quote from: hahay on December 10, 2022, 04:41:21 AM

If Juventus is proven to have committed a football scandal, then I think all the Juventus officials in that period will be punished too even though they have resigned. It would be very unfair if only Juventus received punishment for the scandal that occurred but the board of directors went unpunished, so obviously if that happened then it was a very unfair and broken law.
Also, if Juventus is found guilty or is found to have committed a football scandal worse than Calciopoli then it means that Juventus will not be able to continue to play in the Europa League either.

Instead, the opponent who will play against Juventus in the Europa League later, Nantes will get a WO or Walkover victory. But I still hope this scandal is not proven and I think the scandal is about falsification of documents, and I think the punishment may not be as severe as talked about so far.
If the scandal is Calciopoli then I think it is the right scandal for a team to be punished by relegation, but if the scandal is with the board of directors then I think the punishment is only for them and not the position of the club or Juventus position in the current competition.

Juventus are in a very difficult position. The problem is that Juventus is a joint stock company so their financial fraud will be punished as criminal offenses. Management will be punished in any case - their dismissal does not affect what has already happened. The club will be punished in another lawsuit, but it will still be linked to allegations of financial fraud. It will be really funny if Juventus gets into Serie B again and generally repeats that path. They turn into recidivists Grin

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 09, 2022, 04:40:30 PM

Barcelona's internal problems, especially regarding salary, should not affect its performance in every match. Barcelona has so far been good at seeing success in several available competitions, be it Laliga, Europa League or Copa Del Rey. I don't think the club's financial problems will undermine all Barcelona's desire to do something big this season.

De Jong must be maintained by Barcelona until the end of the season. He is a good player for Barcelona, so I don't think Barcelona will sell his assets to Manchester United or to another team.

I don't think with Barcelona's internal problem about salary cut off right now because all player have rumor move from Barcelona are agree with new salary system and almost half season not any rumor yet with salary cut off. Barcelona have consistency performance right now lead top standing position in La Liga behind two points from rival Real Madrid. Seems not any problem yet with Barcelona's financial right now and they have recovering with their player salary.

Another rumor with Frankie de Jong looks have close after keep staying with Barcelona in this season and not reach agreement deal and offering from Manchester United want to sign him.

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Well after the jesus injury, I do agree that it would be a lot harder for Arsenal to win the tournament as well. I am not saying that it would be impossible, but it would be a bit harder than usual and it would be a bit more difficult.
I do agree that they do have a big chance, between Juventus, United, Barcelona and Arsenal, these four teams are the big clubs that could have a chance at the title but aside from them I am not sure if there are any teams that could win the title and it could be quite difficult to achieve. Long story short Arsenal is not the biggest candidate to win, whoever wins out of United vs Barcelona will be the biggest chance to win, but Arsenal is not too far from it neither.

First of all I should give some information about Jesus' injury. I have seen on some news sources like Jesus' return will be in early March. If this is true than it is really sad news for Arsenal.

However Arsenal have already proven how strong they can play in Jesus' absence also. Jesus couldn't score any goal after the last match he did on October 1. But Arsenal still didn't get affected by that in a negative way. They still continued to get very positive results by scoring many goals in total. They lost only once which was in a Europa League match. They won nearly all of their Premier League matches in this period of time. This is a proof for how strong they can play as a team even in this kind of situations.

Therefore I'm still seeing Arsenal as the biggest favourite here also.

It is not my intention to imply that Arsenal will be completely thrown out of the tournament due to the injury sustained by Gabriel Jesus.
But in my opinion, Arsenal plays slightly better with him in the squad.

Considering the fact that he joined the squad only recently, we have seen that his chemistry with his teammates is fairly effective. Moreover, him being injured means the coach has one less attacker to work with which narrows down his options to rotate the squad regularly. If what you say is true and Jesus returns in early March, that is going to be a really big blow for Arsenal in my opinion. It is just my hope that his teammates will be able to fill his shoes quite well.

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