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Quote from: Jatiluhung on September 14, 2022, 05:39:48 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo is in dire need of adaptation. Due to changes in the strategy of the Manchester United coach, the team must continue to adapt. and when the Manchester United players are getting used to it and the game is getting better. it turns out that the coach even changed back the strategy in the composition of the players. so Manchester United did not perform optimally at that time.

In this case, we must also know that age still affects even though he is a goat but when he is old enough, indeed, declining performance has become a natural thing to happen, even though it can be said that he is still above average, but we can't deny it. that its performance has decreased at this time.
Regardless of how the coach's strategy was implemented he couldn't refuse it and had to follow suit.

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It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

I think Ronaldo's career is over here. He got a chance in Manchester United's second-tier squad. But Ronaldo could not play well in the Europe blog match. So Ten Hag will not give Ronaldo a chance to play in his main squad now. And if Ronaldo doesn't get a chance to play, his performance will deteriorate further. I think Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. And so he is not allowing a talented player like Ronaldo in his squad. He is destroying Ronaldo's career. Ronaldo should now try his best to perform well in the Europa League matches. Otherwise, he will not get a chance to play in the Premier League.

Ten Hag build's his squad around yongins even at his coaching stay at Amsterdam Ajax. All I see is age telling on Ronaldo the premier league more intense now. This is why think Wayne Rooney was correct about himself saying Ronaldo should be benched cause he lacked energy to close down spaces for attacking players.
I want him to leave at times but i can't let him leave for Chelsea. Bit I think he'll be a great signature enjoying all of those crosses from James Recce.

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@Cookdata I don't think that it is related to Real Sociedad's getting better. Because they weren't dominant against Manchester United in this game. They even got a controversial penalty which helped them win the game by 1-0. It was more related to Manchester United's effort actually. They didn't take this game as seriously as a Premier League game. They wasted so many opportunities. Ronaldo also did this but he was playing in the starting eleven for the second time on one hand. He needs to adapt to a long match tempo again to be more effective.

You got the real narrative of the match between English Manchester United and Spanish Real Socieda. We cannot confidently say that Real sociedal played better than Manchester United. They didn't play well and doesn't deserve the win. Then in the part of Manchester United, they didn't take the match seriously and as such the coach made changes in his strong defence line, midfield and attack. I believe he has learnt his lessons. And may rest players like Maguire, Casemiro and if possible Ronaldo in the next match.

Cristiano Ronaldo is in dire need of adaptation. Due to changes in the strategy of the Manchester United coach, the team must continue to adapt. and when the Manchester United players are getting used to it and the game is getting better. it turns out that the coach even changed back the strategy in the composition of the players. so Manchester United did not perform optimally at that time.

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Quote from: karabiber on September 14, 2022, 03:34:42 PM

Rennes is a young team in terms average age. They have three wins and one draw in the last four official matches. They are in better positions compared to the beginning of the season. They can be very effective if they can play the game as fast as they want. But their brittleness and ineffectiveness especially under pressure, prevented them from holding steady charts. The injury of Santamaria in the midfield is also an important handicap for the hosts. Fenerbahce defeated Dynamo Kiev in the pause minutes. It is dangerous that almost all of Dynamo Kiev's few attacks posed a danger even though they played better and deserved the win throughout the match. Fenerbahce may be inadequate defensively in this match. I think Rennes will win.

Fenerbahce have a really difficult job to do against Rennes in France.

This time they won't find a weaker team like they had Dynamo Kyiv last week. Rennes are in a very solid shape these days. Their recent form in the Ligue 1 is already great. They got a 5-0 win the last time which would be a huge morale boost for them. Considering their first EL game, Fenerbahce are of course a much more serious opponent than AEK Larnaca for them but Rennes still have the upper hand in this match. This is their first ever head-to-head by the way which makes the match more interesting. Both teams would like to weigh themselves first. Fenerbahce will need to care about the defense more now. Because they even conceded very easily against Dynamo Kyiv although they didn't let their opponent attack so many times.

Honestly the logical bet for this match seems like BTTS @1.77. Rennes might score first and Fenerbahce would find the equalizer hopefully. My final score prediction is 1-1.

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Rennes is a young team in terms average age. They have three wins and one draw in the last four official matches. They are in better positions compared to the beginning of the season. They can be very effective if they can play the game as fast as they want. But their brittleness and ineffectiveness especially under pressure, prevented them from holding steady charts. The injury of Santamaria in the midfield is also an important handicap for the hosts. Fenerbahce defeated Dynamo Kiev in the pause minutes. It is dangerous that almost all of Dynamo Kiev's few attacks posed a danger even though they played better and deserved the win throughout the match. Fenerbahce may be inadequate defensively in this match. I think Rennes will win.

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It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

I think Ronaldo's career is over here. He got a chance in Manchester United's second-tier squad. But Ronaldo could not play well in the Europe blog match. So Ten Hag will not give Ronaldo a chance to play in his main squad now. And if Ronaldo doesn't get a chance to play, his performance will deteriorate further. I think Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. And so he is not allowing a talented player like Ronaldo in his squad. He is destroying Ronaldo's career. Ronaldo should now try his best to perform well in the Europa League matches. Otherwise, he will not get a chance to play in the Premier League.

did not expect C Ronaldo's performance to drop drastically from last season. This proves that he is actually not as comfortable as when he first showed his feet at Old Trafford. When it comes to age and performance, Ibra was at an age like Ronaldo was still on fire, and Messi at PSG has found his best game again. In my opinion, C Ronaldo's energy and remaining golden remains have not ended, and the Qatar World Cup will be the last proving ground for C Ronaldo, if indeed at the club he is finished.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 12, 2022, 07:01:35 PM

@Cookdata I don't think that it is related to Real Sociedad's getting better. Because they weren't dominant against Manchester United in this game. They even got a controversial penalty which helped them win the game by 1-0. It was more related to Manchester United's effort actually. They didn't take this game as seriously as a Premier League game. They wasted so many opportunities. Ronaldo also did this but he was playing in the starting eleven for the second time on one hand. He needs to adapt to a long match tempo again to be more effective.

You got the real narrative of the match between English Manchester United and Spanish Real Socieda. We cannot confidently say that Real sociedal played better than Manchester United. They didn't play well and doesn't deserve the win. Then in the part of Manchester United, they didn't take the match seriously and as such the coach made changes in his strong defence line, midfield and attack. I believe he has learnt his lessons. And may rest players like Maguire, Casemiro and if possible Ronaldo in the next match.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 13, 2022, 05:47:55 AM

I think Ronaldo's career is over here. He got a chance in Manchester United's second-tier squad. But Ronaldo could not play well in the Europe blog match. So Ten Hag will not give Ronaldo a chance to play in his main squad now. And if Ronaldo doesn't get a chance to play, his performance will deteriorate further. I think Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. And so he is not allowing a talented player like Ronaldo in his squad. He is destroying Ronaldo's career. Ronaldo should now try his best to perform well in the Europa League matches. Otherwise, he will not get a chance to play in the Premier League.

Ronaldo is in the spotlight this season. Not only because of the big names that have to lift MU, but also because of the desire to leave Old Trafford some time ago. Erik ten Haag has repeatedly insisted that Manchester United need Ronaldo. However, some argue that CR7 will not suit the needs of Ten Haag, who wants to play fast and aggressive football.

But now it's proven, Ten Haag doesn't seem to need Ronaldo, the Portuguese mega star currently sits on the bench more often. The defeat in their first match in the Europa League was also linked to Ronaldo, because he started, even though CR7's performance was not too bad. I think Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Haag will heat up.

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It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

The european league is not as grand and attractive as the champions league, but I don't think there is a single team that is not serious here, the rotation carried out by Ten Hag in the match against Sociedad is not because factor not being serious but indeed at this time a busy schedule requires every coach to do rotation of players to maintain their performance, I think winning the Europa League can be one of the realistic targets for Ten Hag this season besides the English League, after all, winning the European league will also be an alternative for Ten Hag to automatically qualify for the champions league next season, while for Ronaldo maybe Playing in the European League is something new for him after always playing in the Champions League, but if he is able to continue to show his best performance here then he will still be able to attract the interest of other teams if he wants to leave Manchester in January.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 13, 2022, 05:47:55 AM

I think Ronaldo's career is over here. He got a chance in Manchester United's second-tier squad. But Ronaldo could not play well in the Europe blog match. So Ten Hag will not give Ronaldo a chance to play in his main squad now. And if Ronaldo doesn't get a chance to play, his performance will deteriorate further. I think Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. And so he is not allowing a talented player like Ronaldo in his squad. He is destroying Ronaldo's career. Ronaldo should now try his best to perform well in the Europa League matches. Otherwise, he will not get a chance to play in the Premier League.

In my view, Ronaldo's performance against Real Sociedad was not too bad. several times he had chances but his efforts were not quite fruitful, erik did not put Bruno Fernandes and Jadon Sancho as main starters at the start as a result they were very difficult to create goal chances. As a result, Real Sociedad won the match in the first week of the Europa League.

The hope of becoming a core game for Ronaldo was getting further and further away, and in the end the relationship between Ronaldo and Erik Ten Hag was increasingly disharmonious.
Talking about the future of Ronaldo's career at Man United, I'm not sure he has a chance to be the main starter again and for sure, Ronaldo's performance will continue to deteriorate.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 12, 2022, 07:01:35 PM

@Cookdata I don't think that it is related to Real Sociedad's getting better. Because they weren't dominant against Manchester United in this game. They even got a controversial penalty which helped them win the game by 1-0. It was more related to Manchester United's effort actually. They didn't take this game as seriously as a Premier League game. They wasted so many opportunities. Ronaldo also did this but he was playing in the starting eleven for the second time on one hand. He needs to adapt to a long match tempo again to be more effective.

Im not sure about MU was taking this game seriously. The fact that if people will be doing it. If MU was taking a match against real sociedad as a serious match and it will not be playing CR7 and meguire. Im feeling doubt if MU was not even underestimate its own opponents. Im seeing that if MU was not doing so good. I think that in this case is ten haag's fault. I didn't wanna say why but i think any MU fans known the main reason. People aware about that.

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It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

I think Man U have not focused on the Premier League and they have huge problems in their team, that's why they are losing in all leagues. With such success they will definitely not qualify for the Champions League next year. Ronaldo is a top class professional and I'm sure it's not about him but the coaching staff. You have to be able to work with the team and build their game against each opponent.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on September 12, 2022, 11:15:04 PM

It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

I think Ronaldo's career is over here. He got a chance in Manchester United's second-tier squad. But Ronaldo could not play well in the Europe blog match. So Ten Hag will not give Ronaldo a chance to play in his main squad now. And if Ronaldo doesn't get a chance to play, his performance will deteriorate further. I think Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. And so he is not allowing a talented player like Ronaldo in his squad. He is destroying Ronaldo's career. Ronaldo should now try his best to perform well in the Europa League matches. Otherwise, he will not get a chance to play in the Premier League.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on September 13, 2022, 05:25:29 AM

Quote from: Sebas.tian on September 12, 2022, 11:15:04 PM

It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

@Cryptmuster rotation of the side is necessary because they’re going to play many fixtures, and if Ten Hag used the same playing 11 constantly then those player’s could be constantly injured. Lastly if one actually saw the match then they would know that if Ronaldo’s Goal was allowed it would have changed the outcome, furthermore that penalty decision was ridiculous and thus I feel that Manchester United will only get better in their upcoming Europa League matches.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on September 12, 2022, 11:15:04 PM

It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

This just shows the priorities of the team, which means that Manchester United will focus on the Premier League in order to play in the Champions League next year. I still can’t get used to the fact that Ronaldo became a player in the second squad of Manchester United. ) And with such effectiveness, he is unlikely to be of interest to other teams. It remains to be seen whether ten Hag will give him the opportunity play in the starting lineup in the Premier League matches.

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In fact, I was very annoyed while watching the match. I think the strategy used by Manchester United this time is different. it looks like there is a new strategy change that is applied when against Sociedad. And the strategy is not effective at all. Even lowering the quality of Manchester United, whose origin has begun to stabilize.

Man, since ten haag has been giving permission to the meguire and ronaldo to play against sociedad and MU seems face a very difficult situation. I think that ten haag must not include ronaldo and meguire for the upcoming match. this will create a very different situation. I think that ten haag must not always change its strategy. Just let players with very good performance to be included in the starting line up. this will be far better rather than always changing the player.
I think that ten haag has been making wrong decision when MU against real sociedad. I hope that ten haag will be learning from that match. Meguire must not be played.

somehow when these two players played. then the Manchester United game seems to have decreased in quality. I don't know what's going on between this player and the other players. like there is no good cooperation. even though I know that Cristiano Ronaldo is a good player. but I see a mismatch in the match with the other players. Ten Hag had to rack his brains. and he must be consistent with the previous best strategy. if he continues to change strategies then the players will find it difficult to adapt.

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Quote from: Davian144 on September 12, 2022, 08:58:47 PM

The interesting thing is that FC Sheriff has never met Manchester United in any match and now they meet in the Europa League, precisely at FC Sheriff's home.
FC Sheriff is the first-placed team in the Moldovan Super League that will host Manchester United from the Premier League where Manchester United are expected to win the match having previously also narrowly lost to Real Sociedad. So for the match against FC Sheriff, it is hoped that Manchester United must be able to win because that is what Manchester United needs at this time.

Moldovan league only have 8 teams so it cannot be compare to England league which more competitive so although FC Sheriff was unbeatable at their local league but don't mean they are strong team in this competition and with the postponed of Premier League matches i think Ten Hag had good advantages to prepare the team with very well and this is good chance for Ten Hag to played all of Manchester United key players because as the team who never met with them before they might be blind the strength of FC Sheriff squad and no more rotate squad and playing with their best starting lineup so if Ten Hag really do this i am sure 3 points will belongs to Manchester United

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@Cookdata I don't think that it is related to Real Sociedad's getting better. Because they weren't dominant against Manchester United in this game. They even got a controversial penalty which helped them win the game by 1-0. It was more related to Manchester United's effort actually. They didn't take this game as seriously as a Premier League game. They wasted so many opportunities. Ronaldo also did this but he was playing in the starting eleven for the second time on one hand. He needs to adapt to a long match tempo again to be more effective.

It was a great surprised to Manchester united fans for Real Sociedad to defeated them 1-0 for the favour of Real Sociedad. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester united to defeat Real Sociedad 4-1 but the match was not easy for Manchester united to win because their coach did not used their last match line up to play this match that made them to experienced defeat from the Real Sociedad. If Manchester united coach can still bench cristiano Ronaldo and other players in the first half to allow other players that know how to achieve opportunity on time to play, it will really help them to improve their points in their next match.

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Quote from: Cookdata on September 12, 2022, 06:34:07 PM

Could this imply that the Spanish leagues are getting bigger and better? Manchester United are actually in good form, but the way they played, Real Sociedad is way ahead of Manchester United right now, but they can do better if they keep up the way they played their last three matches and bench Ronaldo, Maguire, and Casemiro as I don't understand their presence in the league, Maguire Particularly.

Premier League can be a league that has more money from television rights and investment from big investors, corporations last 2 decades but about history and total titles achieved, La Liga is bigger. It is fact that we can not deny.

I don't think neither La Liga nor Premier League is better and stronger than the another. They are similar quality league but La Liga has more achievements in both Champions League and Europa League that is another fact. Real Madrid is a best club in Champions League and in Europa League, it's Sevilla from La Liga too.

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It was so surprising Manchester United lose the game to Sociedad, after playing a beautiful against arsenal in the English premier league. Manchester united defeating arsenal made many people believe that as they play their first europa game it will be a victory for them.

In fact, I was very annoyed while watching the match. I think the strategy used by Manchester United this time is different. it looks like there is a new strategy change that is applied when against Sociedad. And the strategy is not effective at all. Even lowering the quality of Manchester United, whose origin has begun to stabilize.

Man, since ten haag has been giving permission to the meguire and ronaldo to play against sociedad and MU seems face a very difficult situation. I think that ten haag must not include ronaldo and meguire for the upcoming match. this will create a very different situation. I think that ten haag must not always change its strategy. Just let players with very good performance to be included in the starting line up. this will be far better rather than always changing the player.
I think that ten haag has been making wrong decision when MU against real sociedad. I hope that ten haag will be learning from that match. Meguire must not be played.

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