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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 25, 2023, 11:03:12 AM

I do not disregard any of the teams for this finals but I tend to align more with Mourinho boys because if the experience of Jose. He is so experienced in playing finals but in the other hand, Sevilla is more experienced as a team than Roma in the Europa League competition. How Madrid is to Champions League, that is how Sevilla is to Europa. This season that Madrid is prevented from getting to the finals, I think Sevilla will do exactly like Madrid. But the everything us possible till that very day of the finals.

This is about an experienced Coach and an experienced team. We can’t really deliberate much about these two teams as anything can happen on the day of the final. Sevilla was able to defeat Juventus to reach the finals, so I feel they’ve higher chance to win the trophy than Roma who only has an experienced coach to see them through the finals.

Mourinho has good experience when it comes to winning of games but this is not enough reason Roma must win the game. Sevilla players are used to the Europa game, so they know the best way they end up winning the game to become the champion. Roma still have the chance of winning but based in the Europa experience Sevilla is more experienced in winning europa league games. The game won't be easy for the two teams though, because Sevilla and Roma is a strong team.

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I saw on the news about Roma today that it's not just about Dybala they are worried about the game against Sevilla, Georginio Wijnaldum is also injured and there is a chance for him to miss the final match.
We know Mourinho is an experienced coach and he knows how to handle this great match but the absence of these two players can definitely damage the team.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12115853/Roma-duo-Paulo-Dybala-Georginio-Wijnaldum-injury-doubts-weeks-Europa-League-final.html

It's unfortunate news for Roma's prospects as the Europa final will take place next week. However, there's a Mourinho factor that could potentially tip the scales in their favor. It'll be battle between the undisputed king of the Europa League, and the king that hasn't lost a final before. It's clear that he knows exactly what he wants and how to get it, so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Let's see whether we'll see a different game from Roma, or Mourinho stick to his usual defensive tactics.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 25, 2023, 11:03:12 AM

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This is about an experienced Coach and an experienced team. We can’t really deliberate much about these two teams as anything can happen on the day of the final. Sevilla was able to defeat Juventus to reach the finals, so I feel they’ve higher chance to win the trophy than Roma who only has an experienced coach to see them through the finals.

Mourinho has led Roma to success in the Conference League final last season, now Mourinho is one step away from winning a third Europa League title after previous successes with Porto and Manchester United. Mourinho effect began to spread to Rome, reaching the Europa League Final was a new history for Roma, which had reached two European finals in a row.

Mourinho track record in the final means that Sevilla, which is very influential in the Europa League, must not underestimate Rome. As you said, this final will bring together an experienced team with an experienced coach. Winning the Europa League is the goal of both teams because they both failed to finish in the European zone in their respective leagues, Sevilla chances are bigger than Roma, but Mourinho effect has made Roma a team that is hard to beat.

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I saw on the news about Roma today that it's not just about Dybala they are worried about the game against Sevilla, Georginio Wijnaldum is also injured and there is a chance for him to miss the final match.
We know Mourinho is an experienced coach and he knows how to handle this great match but the absence of these two players can definitely damage the team.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12115853/Roma-duo-Paulo-Dybala-Georginio-Wijnaldum-injury-doubts-weeks-Europa-League-final.html

Well, this is quite surprising news even though the European League final match against Sevilla will take place next week. Maybe Mourinho will be very confused by the absence of these two important players, we know Dybala and Wijnaldum are two important figures for Roma's midfield and attack line. The absence of these two players can make the strategy that Mourinho wants will change slightly. But I hope that the injuries suffered by both of them can recover before the European league final is held so that Roma will appear at full strength.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 25, 2023, 11:03:12 AM

I saw on the news about Roma today that it's not just about Dybala they are worried about the game against Sevilla, Georginio Wijnaldum is also injured and there is a chance for him to miss the final match.
We know Mourinho is an experienced coach and he knows how to handle this great match but the absence of these two players can definitely damage the team.

Roma is a team that you can't rely on its stability and performance in normal days and easy games, any one can imagine how things will do with the combination of playing vs the classic winner of Europa League in person (Sevilla) without the full squad. That might end bad for them. The problem is that Sevilla qualified for the final game even though they don't have a great season in La Liga

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I saw on the news about Roma today that it's not just about Dybala they are worried about the game against Sevilla, Georginio Wijnaldum is also injured and there is a chance for him to miss the final match.
We know Mourinho is an experienced coach and he knows how to handle this great match but the absence of these two players can definitely damage the team.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12115853/Roma-duo-Paulo-Dybala-Georginio-Wijnaldum-injury-doubts-weeks-Europa-League-final.html

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Quote from: asriloni on May 25, 2023, 09:05:20 AM

Here I will favor AS Roma on the basis that coach Jose Maurinho has extraordinary experience in the European league and my belief that AS Roma will win in this European league final.

That's gonna be the toughest game for as roma. Im waiting what kind of strategy that already prepared by mourinho. I hope that mou will be using parking bus again. that will make sevilla becomes frustrated with it. It will be so good to see sevilla will confuse to face it.

Sevilla will be going fully offensive. Sevilla's coach doesn't have good history in the final. Roma is in advantage caused by it has mourinho.

Quote from: shogun47 on May 25, 2023, 09:42:33 AM

Although Sevilla has good experience from the past but I'm not sure if Sevilla can beat AS Roma.

Mourinho on roma's side. It will become even harder for sevilla to beat roma. I put all of my believes in roma right now.

Roma will able win the game against sevilla soon.

oh god, in my opinion Sevilla are in very good shape
Roma are very tired as a team, they have lost their aggression and seem to be suffering matches rather than winning them
at least this is my impression, maybe i'm wrong

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 25, 2023, 06:30:56 AM

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 24, 2023, 11:31:50 AM

Indeed, it is a question why Mourinho did not put Dybala in the starting line-up, but that is again he who knows better about his team's situation and I think it is also part of the strategy he implemented which required Dybala to start the game from the bench. In a situation like this many people regret that, and indeed what is the thing he really has to do to put Dybala on the bench. But it's back again, because sometimes our wishes will always be different from the coach's, moreover we know Mourinho is a coach who is difficult to predict what his wishes will be.

But you are implying that coaches never make mistakes. I agree that the coach is closest to the team, has optimal insight into everything that is going on and we can only give our subjective opinions based on what we get to see during the games. But it wouldn't be the first time that a coach purses some ideological ideas that in the end don't work out. Does he have any issues in genera with Dybala? I haven't read anything about it and at first I thought that Dybala must have been injured for a long time, but he seems to be fit. Perhaps he has character issues and doesn't train as hard as others. That is something we wouldn't know unless Mourinho tells the public. But leaving those assumptions aside, Dybala has the quality to go for 90 minutes and deliver a brilliant game. He also has this little extra when it comes to free kicks.

I don't mean at all to say that a coach is always right with the strategy he implements, of course they also have lots of mistakes that don't seem right in implementing the strategy or so on. But what I'm saying here is how a coach sometimes has a different view from us who see how the situation is happening on the field, be it in terms of the game, or even in terms of the players they fielded in that match. I understand why they ignore what the audience is saying, because it's not uncommon when coaches follow what the audience is saying it makes the situation worse, even though there are also those that make the situation better.

Absolutely and I wouldn't argue against your opinion here because it's true. But you know these situations where sometimes coaches also gamble and try something where most people would disagree with the decision.

Coaches should have their own minds, but they are also in a position to interpret everything in their favor. For example, if a player is put on the bench and is angry about it and then comes from the bench and scores, the coach says "he scored because I put him on the bench and made the right decision". But it's sometimes just coincidence or luck. When the player doesn't score, the coach can say that that was the reason why the player was sitting on the bench.

I am not someone who takes decisions from coaches quickly and then judges. I admit that coaches have much more information than we do. But there are also decisions when I think I would have done it differently. Because coaches also have different opinions. It is not just because Mourinho is a master and we are not. Mourinho also makes decisions that Guardiola wouldn't make.

I believe that in the end players decide the game, not so much the coaches.

I understand what you mean when the coach says his decision to put on the bench and come on as a substitute and get that goal will be a weapon for him and then claims it was part of the strategy. I also agree that it won't be the same forever, because it could just be luck in the game. A coach will usually claim that good results are the result of his strategy, but a great coach will admit his mistakes so that the bad results that befall the team he leads are his full responsibility.
Of course everyone will have different thoughts, moreover it is football, usually in strategy we will have a style of play that we like and we will apply it when we are in a position as a coach. But of course there will be external factors that require us to change our strategy from time to time.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 25, 2023, 06:30:56 AM

Quote from: shogun47 on May 24, 2023, 01:00:09 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 24, 2023, 11:31:50 AM

Indeed, it is a question why Mourinho did not put Dybala in the starting line-up, but that is again he who knows better about his team's situation and I think it is also part of the strategy he implemented which required Dybala to start the game from the bench. In a situation like this many people regret that, and indeed what is the thing he really has to do to put Dybala on the bench. But it's back again, because sometimes our wishes will always be different from the coach's, moreover we know Mourinho is a coach who is difficult to predict what his wishes will be.

But you are implying that coaches never make mistakes. I agree that the coach is closest to the team, has optimal insight into everything that is going on and we can only give our subjective opinions based on what we get to see during the games. But it wouldn't be the first time that a coach purses some ideological ideas that in the end don't work out. Does he have any issues in genera with Dybala? I haven't read anything about it and at first I thought that Dybala must have been injured for a long time, but he seems to be fit. Perhaps he has character issues and doesn't train as hard as others. That is something we wouldn't know unless Mourinho tells the public. But leaving those assumptions aside, Dybala has the quality to go for 90 minutes and deliver a brilliant game. He also has this little extra when it comes to free kicks.

I don't mean at all to say that a coach is always right with the strategy he implements, of course they also have lots of mistakes that don't seem right in implementing the strategy or so on. But what I'm saying here is how a coach sometimes has a different view from us who see how the situation is happening on the field, be it in terms of the game, or even in terms of the players they fielded in that match. I understand why they ignore what the audience is saying, because it's not uncommon when coaches follow what the audience is saying it makes the situation worse, even though there are also those that make the situation better.

Absolutely and I wouldn't argue against your opinion here because it's true. But you know these situations where sometimes coaches also gamble and try something where most people would disagree with the decision.

Coaches should have their own minds, but they are also in a position to interpret everything in their favor. For example, if a player is put on the bench and is angry about it and then comes from the bench and scores, the coach says "he scored because I put him on the bench and made the right decision". But it's sometimes just coincidence or luck. When the player doesn't score, the coach can say that that was the reason why the player was sitting on the bench.

I am not someone who takes decisions from coaches quickly and then judges. I admit that coaches have much more information than we do. But there are also decisions when I think I would have done it differently. Because coaches also have different opinions. It is not just because Mourinho is a master and we are not. Mourinho also makes decisions that Guardiola wouldn't make.

I believe that in the end players decide the game, not so much the coaches.

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Here I will favor AS Roma on the basis that coach Jose Maurinho has extraordinary experience in the European league and my belief that AS Roma will win in this European league final.

That's gonna be the toughest game for as roma. Im waiting what kind of strategy that already prepared by mourinho. I hope that mou will be using parking bus again. that will make sevilla becomes frustrated with it. It will be so good to see sevilla will confuse to face it.

Sevilla will be going fully offensive. Sevilla's coach doesn't have good history in the final. Roma is in advantage caused by it has mourinho.

Although Sevilla has good experience from the past but I'm not sure if Sevilla can beat AS Roma.

Mourinho on roma's side. It will become even harder for sevilla to beat roma. I put all of my believes in roma right now.

Roma will able win the game against sevilla soon.

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Quote from: uswa56 on May 25, 2023, 04:28:53 AM

that's true, despite the many criticisms about the defensive tactics implemented by Jose Maurinho, he certainly managed to lead the AS Roma team to the Europa League final this season.
Jose Maurinho is very experienced and he even won 5 finals on the European stage with 4 different teams with a 100 percent winning record in the previous 5 finals.

but on the other hand, Sevilla is the most successful team in the Europa League in the last 10 years apart from now that they have a new coach but this is also something to be reckoned with.

I think this season's Europa League final is ideal and it's going to be a very tough final.

Here I will favor AS Roma on the basis that coach Jose Maurinho has extraordinary experience in the European league and my belief that AS Roma will win in this European league final.
Although Sevilla has good experience from the past but I'm not sure if Sevilla can beat AS Roma.

That is the opinion of each prediction, we will definitely have a different point of view to make an analysis of how this match will go. Both Sevilla and AS Roma have proven that they can go this far, and they only have one game left to determine who will win the title. Honestly, I can't predict because in my opinion both teams have the ability, and whoever wins the championship later they deserve it.

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Quote from: shogun47 on May 24, 2023, 01:00:09 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 24, 2023, 11:31:50 AM

Indeed, it is a question why Mourinho did not put Dybala in the starting line-up, but that is again he who knows better about his team's situation and I think it is also part of the strategy he implemented which required Dybala to start the game from the bench. In a situation like this many people regret that, and indeed what is the thing he really has to do to put Dybala on the bench. But it's back again, because sometimes our wishes will always be different from the coach's, moreover we know Mourinho is a coach who is difficult to predict what his wishes will be.

But you are implying that coaches never make mistakes. I agree that the coach is closest to the team, has optimal insight into everything that is going on and we can only give our subjective opinions based on what we get to see during the games. But it wouldn't be the first time that a coach purses some ideological ideas that in the end don't work out. Does he have any issues in genera with Dybala? I haven't read anything about it and at first I thought that Dybala must have been injured for a long time, but he seems to be fit. Perhaps he has character issues and doesn't train as hard as others. That is something we wouldn't know unless Mourinho tells the public. But leaving those assumptions aside, Dybala has the quality to go for 90 minutes and deliver a brilliant game. He also has this little extra when it comes to free kicks.

I don't mean at all to say that a coach is always right with the strategy he implements, of course they also have lots of mistakes that don't seem right in implementing the strategy or so on. But what I'm saying here is how a coach sometimes has a different view from us who see how the situation is happening on the field, be it in terms of the game, or even in terms of the players they fielded in that match. I understand why they ignore what the audience is saying, because it's not uncommon when coaches follow what the audience is saying it makes the situation worse, even though there are also those that make the situation better.

Quote from: uswa56 on May 25, 2023, 04:28:53 AM

I do not disregard any of the teams for this finals but I tend to align more with Mourinho boys because if the experience of Jose. He is so experienced in playing finals but in the other hand, Sevilla is more experienced as a team than Roma in the Europa League competition. How Madrid is to Champions League, that is how Sevilla is to Europa. This season that Madrid is prevented from getting to the finals, I think Sevilla will do exactly like Madrid. But the everything us possible till that very day of the finals.

This is about an experienced Coach and an experienced team. We can’t really deliberate much about these two teams as anything can happen on the day of the final. Sevilla was able to defeat Juventus to reach the finals, so I feel they’ve higher chance to win the trophy than Roma who only has an experienced coach to see them through the finals.

Actually I don't mind the status of an experienced coach or vice versa, but I also won't deny that sometimes I also consider that status so that it will then be a prediction of the outcome of the match. But apart from all that, the two clubs that will compete have their respective weaknesses and strengths. We know that Sevilla is not good in local competitions, but they can prove it by reaching the final in the Europa League. It's honestly hard to predict who will win the match, and I can say their odds are 50/50.

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that's true, despite the many criticisms about the defensive tactics implemented by Jose Maurinho, he certainly managed to lead the AS Roma team to the Europa League final this season.
Jose Maurinho is very experienced and he even won 5 finals on the European stage with 4 different teams with a 100 percent winning record in the previous 5 finals.

but on the other hand, Sevilla is the most successful team in the Europa League in the last 10 years apart from now that they have a new coach but this is also something to be reckoned with.

I think this season's Europa League final is ideal and it's going to be a very tough final.

Here I will favor AS Roma on the basis that coach Jose Maurinho has extraordinary experience in the European league and my belief that AS Roma will win in this European league final.
Although Sevilla has good experience from the past but I'm not sure if Sevilla can beat AS Roma.

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The gaps between mourinho and mendilibar is too far.

Mourinho has been winning so many trophy with various clubs while mendilibar has nothing to be showed on his profile. He is not having a lot of experience. It must become the main weakness from sevilla in upcoming match.
Mourinho knew so well what shall be done by roma to win the game against sevilla.

The coach has been playing very important role to determine the strategy that will be increasing the chance for the club to win the game.

I were learning from leverkusen vs roma. I saw how so many people were yelling leverkusen was far better than roma but with a great tactic by mourinho and as roma was able going to the final after it was beating leverkusen in the semi final.
The coach will able to make the difference from the performance of club.

that's true, despite the many criticisms about the defensive tactics implemented by Jose Maurinho, he certainly managed to lead the AS Roma team to the Europa League final this season.
Jose Maurinho is very experienced and he even won 5 finals on the European stage with 4 different teams with a 100 percent winning record in the previous 5 finals.

but on the other hand, Sevilla is the most successful team in the Europa League in the last 10 years apart from now that they have a new coach but this is also something to be reckoned with.

I think this season's Europa League final is ideal and it's going to be a very tough final.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on May 25, 2023, 12:28:14 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on May 24, 2023, 08:59:52 PM

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The gaps between mourinho and mendilibar is too far.

Maybe his good profile will start this season. One thing I have learnt is not to undermine anyone that made it to a final. Many people have just forgotten how Sevilla eliminated Manchester United and they have also forgotten Sevilla's excellent records in the Europa League. They can pull a surprise, the thing that weakens me is their star man that is on red card, that is obviously a weakness to the team.
However, a final is a final and will look like one.
Mourinho is a special breed and he will try his best to steal the day, but it's not gonna be easy

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