Topic: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season - page 25. (Read 58952 times)

This one of the few posts that I have seen that backed the Ten Hag with his problems with the two player Sancho and Ronaldo. Every time the Erik Ten Hag comes to light the Ronaldo obsessed fans jump at him for failing at the club and making up stories about why he should leave. I will understand the frustration for this fans because of the caliber of player the CR7 is but that doesn’t mean he is indispensable. Sir Alex Ferguson upsets many player like Ruud Van Nistrooy, David Beckham in the past just to avoid egocentric nonsense in the dressing room and Ronaldo then was a beneficiary of this clear out, right now he can’t stands to understand the managers point of view that he can’t play all matches.

Like I said I understand Ronaldo fan’s frustration but that of Sancho’s is what I can’t fathom at the moment. He is clearly been poor before Ten Hag, so I don’t understand why United fans or probably Sancho fans still think way too much of themselves. If he was such a great player I think clubs will have circle round him now but no club is forth coming except where he was loaned to

Ten Hag's a monster, clearly. He dared to have a vision and some standards, and the poor, delicate superstars couldnt handle it. Boo-hoo.  Ronaldo and Sancho werepast their prime, coasting on reputation. They didnt fit Ten Hag's system, and their egos couldnt handle the bench. Its called accountability, something missing from modern football. Ten Hag isnt perfect, but he's not a tyrant. He's trying to build a team, not babysit has-beens. If a few bruised egos are the price of progress, then so be it. Maybe the "world-class athletes" should try being world-class teammates for a change.

Manchester United which is a problematic club year and now having a coach which is having no good skills to have better interaction with players making things more terrible because his ego is more important, and he is doing things which are hurting players which making this club a difficult place for star players those want to give their best but fail due to brainless coach which is changing strategies and not doing things to improve players development which can bring better results.

No doubt he needs to understand things which are helpful for players and coach both and with this combo they can achieve better results if they are having no positive communication and talks things could be taken never been good stance which are important for the success and having good spot in all competitions.

There's no doubt to the fact that one of the reasons many people developed interest in the UEFA Europa League competition last season was because of the consistent and impressive run of German champions Bayer Leverkusen. Leverkusen started the season without conceding a defeat in all competitions so whenever they were playing, many were interested in watching them to see if they can lose or not. It was in the final of the competition that Atalanta handed them their first defeat in the tournament
The first European game of next season will see Atalanta face Spanish and European champions Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup but I don't think that game should be easy for everyone to predict because I don't see Atalanta getting better of Real Madrid

The European League received a lot of attention last season, which was influenced by Leverkusen impressive performance and the surprise performance by Atalanta. For next season, I think United will take that role, where they look very dominant among the other contestants, like Liverpool last season.

Meanwhile, Atalanta will face Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup, which pits the European League champions against the Champions League. According to the schedule, the match will take place in mid-August, so it is still quite long. But I think, we can easily predict the result at this time, where Madrid really deserves to be the favorite.

Atalanta luck doesn't seem to be able to beat Madrid, because in terms of reputation the two teams have very big differences. On the other hand, I still imagine how interesting the Europa League was last season, there were so many surprises that happened.

Leverkusen has shown us hard work, mentality and also a pretty good performance this season in competing in the bundesliga and also the europa league, Leverkusen toughness in the bundesliga certainly surprises us all, as well as the europa league, although indeed Leverkusen failed to win the europa league this season but still they are the best team in my opinion,  because it is very rare for a team to achieve what they are currently achieving with makeshift players and of course we also cannot deny that Alonso has a very important role in making Leverkusen a great team this season after their slump in the club history for 120 years, next season of course I am also curious about their ability to maintain their performance in the Bundesliga or Champions League.

The European League and the Champions League are of course two leagues that are under UEFA, but of course the two competitions have different competitions so far, compared to the European league, of course the Champions League is the most competitive league so indeed Alonso must be able to prepare his team well and of course to be able to try to repeat their greatness in the European league this season.

The issues of ego have a been a serious challenge that has got the team in an uneasy pattern especially within the players and the coach, yet tennhag isn't willing to drop his ego at any point, he's still very particular about whatever he wants to happen and never really considerate about the players side of view and that has most times caused them to end in arguments and tin rifts most times which in the end affects the players performance.

When these players have to struggle with handling their psychology and still delivering good quality performance even when not in a perfect relationship with the coach, it can be really stressing and may even cost them their actual performance sometimes, even the fact that he gets to make some of his players his fav and the others looking like they are just some random players without any preference, all put together to cause their psychology to be in a state of mental instability which some couldn't cope with and their performance drop s.

The management maybe should look into the players coach relationship that exists between tennhag and his players if it could be the reason the team hasn't achieved much in recent times, maybe that could help in solving the problem of poor performance if these players are helped to put back their psychology in check and putting them in the right minds to adequately stay stable enough to be able to deliver the kind of performance expected of them, just maybe ten hag isn't attached to the job so he's not making efforts to keep it and Manchester united management appears like they have gat no option at the moment but to tolerate ten hag.

I am looking forward to Bayer Leverkusen not only in the Champions League but also in the Bundesliga because they will enter this year as a team that will continue to equalize their record in the Bundesliga by completing last season without defeat. If there are no surprises in the first 10 matches, we will not see a team that will come back to where Leverkusen achieved this record for many years. Xabi became a legend in the Bundesliga from his first season.

I don't expect them to be able to repeat the same thing with an undefeated record like last season, but I just hope they can still be very consistent in providing good games again and competing at the top again to defend the title they have won. In my opinion it will be more difficult to defend than to win, and that will be a challenge for Xabi Alonso and his team next season.

Meanwhile, in the Champions League, I hope they can also show that they can compete with tougher clubs. Clubs that are in the Champions League are clubs that are at a different level, I mean they are better, mentally and in terms of game, compared to the clubs they have met in the Bundesliga and in the European League.

They have to prepare everything as well as possible, at least they have to give the best possible game so they can go further and talk more in the Champions League next season. I also hope that the expectations placed on them will not disturb their mentality.

When a coach has a high temperament and ego, the players will find it difficult to play optimally, they are afraid of making mistakes and in the end Ten Hag scolds him and maybe curses at him. This is a normal thing for coaches when training their players, but if they are too harsh It also doesn't end well. The players also need good communication so that the chemistry between players and coaches runs well and all players can work together to achieve success. So far, we know Erik Ten Hag as a tough figure who makes the players uncomfortable, not only Jadon Sanco felt uncomfortable and even the feud between Cristiano Ronaldo and Erik Ten Hag heated up when Ronaldo returned to Man United until Ronaldo finally left the club.
Erik Ten Hag must change his coaching style so that it is not too harsh and be wise as a coach, he can emulate Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Kloop and Mikel Arteta.

Then Manchester United's response to Ten Hag's performance to date is that they still believe in him and have not thought about Manchester United's future. We have known for a long time that Teh Hag is like that. It's not surprising that he always makes his players scapegoats for their bad performance, for example these two people. Ronaldo and Sancho as two people have left Manchester United and made Antony a tactical failure and it is true that what you say is true.

I hope that Manchester United is able to realize this in order to find a coach who is truly competent in providing appropriate tactics and style of play, because it is fitting that Manchester United will get changes in the last few seasons, at least the championship title that Manchester United has long lost.

We all know that the Champions League is a big league where there are big and strong teams with tight competition, of course for Leverkusen I think they can learn a lot of lessons by facing these big and strong teams. Their mentality will be tested by matches in the Champions League, under the guidance of Xabi Alonso there is no doubt about them. I think they can play well with their performance but it doesn't rule out the possibility that they can be beaten. The chances of them dominating the Champions League are not great, but if it happened that they could dominate the Champions League, that would really be surprising.

Xabi Alonso's focus must be divided, but I think Xabi Alonso can handle it well and keep Leverkusen consistent with his performance. Maybe they will have difficulty getting to the quarter-finals, because there is no certainty that they can maintain their good performance like in the Bundesliga, their strong performance like that could be destroyed when they compete in the Champions League. but what is certain is that Xabi Alonso and his players will do their best to achieve the best.

It cannot be denied that Ten Hag has been proven to have a very high ego, which has the potential for friction with the players, Sancho is a clear example in this case. Apart from his high ego, in Sancho view, Ten Hag is also favoritism. Good managers should be those who can protect their players fairly. Next season, the Europa League trophy will be on Ten Hag priority list, where the chances of United competing for trophies in the Premier League are relatively low. If Ten Hag again fails to bring United to a consistent performance in the first half of the season, I think he will immediately be kicked out by the club top officials.

Even if he sometimes can show brilliant tactics but it is not enough because he mostly applied bad tactics last season. If he more often used brilliant tactics, Man United should finish in the UCL zone. Luckily, Man United still can play in Europa league. Yes, he is a bit egoistic and too serious, seems not like a friendly coach. I think he must change it if he wants to have a batter relationship with all Man United players.

Actually narcissism shouldn't be a part of a coach personality. Ronaldo and Sancho shouldn't leave Man United because of bad relationship with the coach. Ten Hag never gives them time to play, it is something very strange because they are top players. Maybe it is true that the egoistic of Ten Hag makes him difficult to see the potential of big players.

Ten Hag probably needs to learn about the personality must have by an ideal coach in football.
1. Good Role Model
2. Friendly
3. Good Communicator
4. Team Motivator
5. Etc

Source: https://www.grassrootscoaching.com/10-characteristics-of-an-effective-football-coach/

Agree. It is too early if we assume Leverkusen will be eliminated in round 16. I know Leverkusen was playing in Europa League, but it doesn't mean Leverkusen level is below the UCL teams in the last season. In fact, Dortmund can reach the final round against Real Madrid although in Bundesliga Dortmund and Bayern Munich can be defeated by Leverkusen. It means Leverkusen level is actually the same as other big teams in UCL. I guess Leverkusen isn't impossible to reach the semi-final. However, it depends on how good Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Bayer Leverkusen in the next season. Sometimes, it is not easy to keep the performance as well as the previous season.

Results turning out poor and at some point good only shows a different level of inconsistency of which is not going to give them a decent productivity in the league by the time they cumulate all their accumulated points so as to get them a position on the table, in a situation where the wins are more, it's could be considered a pretty good one to handle but in other situation where the losses are more, they are most likely not going to have good points to get them good position on the table.

Time isn't what Erick Ten Hag needs at this point, he's already gotten a whole lot of that, this will be his third season in Manchester united, it's enough for him to have been able establish a system with which he's going to work with and will only need to make adjustments over time as the need to arises. I believe that ten hag has had the time now is for him to work and produce results, other coaches in other teams who are doing well literally didn't need all the time in the world to get the team to the point where they are currently such that they have been able to achieve a whole lot at a time.

I'm believing that Manchester united will be able to do better this season still under his management as the coach, hopefully hwy don't get to sell most of their players as I'm seeing on the news how many teams are building intrest in a few of the players which includes Rashford. If all the players who are been soughted after by other teams leave and Manchester united gets new replacement rhwn they are going to obviously need time to build up this team to getting the players use to the coach again.

Poor and good results are recorded by the Red Devils, however they're doing their best to bring on tactical measures for improvement. Manchester United headcoach, Erik Ten Hag needs more time to set things right for the club, he's supposed to be fired from the club but based on the mapping and laydown records set in two seasons for Manchester united, his presence is needed for more growth. The Red Devils have struggled in previous season but we clearly understand their challenges which happens to be for the club making wrong changes.

Good communication and interaction with the players will help alot, because he will gain their respect him he gives the players listening hears, he will make them be free and come up with some ideas that he might pick something good from. There is nothing bad listening and he sees that he does not the idea, he will not take to it.

Ten Hag needs to know that being the manager of a club does not mean that his job is only to coach but he is to also make sure that he is open minded to the team to buy their loyalty and respect.

This is exactly what I am talking about and there is really no recovery from this at all as well. He is the type of person that makes it quite difficult for players to like or even more importantly respect him. If he keeps on blaming the issue on the players, then how could we really end up with anything that would benefit the team?

Imagine a whole squad of players who doesn't respect the manager, could that team be even any good? No idea why they kept him around, just because he won the FA cup doesn't mean that he is a good manager, it just means that this team could have done even better if he wasn't around, but barely got FA cup because he sucks. In any case, I hope that they do better this season and he stops blaming players.

Ten Hag has sometimes showed tactical brilliance, but his ego is out of control. He enjoys taking credit for successes. Narcissism, not leadership. See Ronaldo and Sancho. World-class athletes wanted to leave Ten Hag's poisonous atmosphere. Not being able to connect with elite players is a huge red flag for a manager

It's not just egos. Also problematic is Ten Hag's tactical inflexibility. Regardless, he'll stick to his system. Adapt sometimes, guy. Study the space. Don't force your ideas on a failing game. Thus, while Ten Hag may know the game, his ego and stubbornness are holding this team back. Sadly, Manchester United deserves better