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January 06, 2024, 03:32:59 AM
I don't think there's anyone who's still in doubt over the capability of the Bayer Leverkusen team and I won't be surprised if the go on to win the Europa League trophy
Seeing what they have done so far how to perform well in all competitions there is no longer any doubt but becoming European league champions is certainly still a question whether they will be able to do it, because this is a tournament that this season the competition is very tight, especially Bayer Leverkusen still have to concentrate on the Bundesliga because their position is still closely followed by Bayern Munich.
Hoping that the performances they are showing now continue until the end of the season, both in the Bundesliga and even more so in this competition, because often the team that occasionally in one season can appear impressive suddenly experiences an unexpected decline so that it fails in all competitions, but so far things like that are not seen in Bayer Leverkusen, Xabi Alonso is quite good at bringing his squad, and for the European league they have not found a worthy opponent in my opinion, maybe in the next rounds there will be resistance that can threaten them here.
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January 06, 2024, 03:13:25 AM
I was interested to West Ham achievement at european competition because recently since David Moyes handle this team West Ham has good progress that in Premier league or European competitions West Ham performance was quite stable and last season West Ham has just gets their first trophy under Moyes at European Conference League because in the final match West Ham can able to beat Fiorentina and this season too West Ham performance was quite stable in Europa league because they can finish as group champion status which makes them automatically qualified to round of 16 without through an play off matches and West Ham can achieve to the semifinal matches on season 2021/2022 but at that time their journey have to ended because Frankfurt beat them and i know people most likely to talking about Leverkusen or Liverpool as strong contender but i think West Ham too have a potention to makes those teams to slipped
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January 06, 2024, 02:53:11 AM
The teams from Laliga cannot be underestimated because they have the mentality to become champions. But this season Sevilla did not join the European league, thus opening up opportunities for other teams to win the European league trophy this season. I think the European League this season will belong to teams from the Premier League or from the Bundesliga. Because so far Liverpool and Leverkusen are the strongest in this competition.

Leverkusen can focus their energy as best as possible on the European league this season because this season they have a greater chance of becoming champions. For Liverpool it is the same, they will target the title this season because they have been very consistent so far. Apart from that, the teams that are part of the play-off round might surprise us because there are big team names in the play-off round.
In fact, Liverpool and Leverkusen have to divide their concentration between the Europa League match and the match in their domestic league because these two teams have the opportunity or are currently competing for the championship title in their domestic league.
Especially Leverkusen, who is currently competing fiercely with Bayern in the race for the Bundesliga title, of course they will continue to fight for that.

IN the Europa League quite a lot of surprises happened in the previous season, so I think this season will be the same and at the moment it is too early to predict who will win because I think the percentages for the remaining teams are still the same.
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January 06, 2024, 02:41:00 AM
The teams from Laliga cannot be underestimated because they have the mentality to become champions. But this season Sevilla did not join the European league, thus opening up opportunities for other teams to win the European league trophy this season. I think the European League this season will belong to teams from the Premier League or from the Bundesliga. Because so far Liverpool and Leverkusen are the strongest in this competition.

Leverkusen can focus their energy as best as possible on the European league this season because this season they have a greater chance of becoming champions. For Liverpool it is the same, they will target the title this season because they have been very consistent so far. Apart from that, the teams that are part of the play-off round might surprise us because there are big team names in the play-off round.
Yes, La Liga clubs do have a higher winning mentality, but even so, other clubs still have a big chance if they are able to compete more impressively in the Champions League and European League match. But last season, unfortunately, Real Madrid had to be eliminated earlier in the past and did not reach the final so that the Champions League trophy was won by the Premier League club Manchester City, Sevilla this season was also eliminated in the Champions League and in the Europa League so the opportunity to win the trophy may be between the Premier League club and the Bundesliga club while the Laliga club is taking part in the competition Only Villareal managed to qualify for the round of 16, but it seems like this club is not as much of a favorite as Liverpool and Leverkusen even though this club also played quite well in the group stage.

Leverkusen and Liverpool will certainly have a bigger chances in the European league and they will also focus on competing there to compete for the European League title, but they also have to focused on the domestic league in order to achieve good result too and next season they can compete in the Champions League, not in the European league.
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January 05, 2024, 06:57:18 PM
Looking at some of the current data, actually in my opinion when talking about the championship problem it is quite evenly distributed, it's just that for the most trophy holders of course it belongs to Spain, especially for the last 2 decades because from the period starting from 2006 to 2023 (last season) Sevilla is the club that gets the most Europa League trophies with 7 trophies coupled with 3 consecutive championships in 2014-2016 making the La Liga club's record in the Europa League not trivial and not directly at this time Spain still dominates in the acquisition of trophies when talking about competitions in the Champions League and Europa League because of the trophies that are difficult to win. In 2014-2016, the La Liga club's record in the Europa League cannot be said to be trivial and indirectly at this time Spain still dominates in the acquisition of trophies when talking about competitions in the Champions League and Europa League because of the trophies that are difficult to compete with Sevilla for the Europa League and Madrid for the Champions League.
The teams from Laliga cannot be underestimated because they have the mentality to become champions. But this season Sevilla did not join the European league, thus opening up opportunities for other teams to win the European league trophy this season. I think the European League this season will belong to teams from the Premier League or from the Bundesliga. Because so far Liverpool and Leverkusen are the strongest in this competition.

Leverkusen can focus their energy as best as possible on the European league this season because this season they have a greater chance of becoming champions. For Liverpool it is the same, they will target the title this season because they have been very consistent so far. Apart from that, the teams that are part of the play-off round might surprise us because there are big team names in the play-off round.
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January 05, 2024, 06:32:08 PM
I really remember Alonso's words when interviewed, he doesn't expect Leverkusen to win any trophies (Bundesliga or European League) but he really hopes that in every match that Leverkusen plays, they will perform optimally and come out as winners. I think Leverkusen really haven't been beaten since this season's European League started, that's really an extraordinary achievement and will definitely make people not believe in that achievement. Having Alonso in the team is luck for Leverkusen, Leverkusen is a candidate team to win the European League this season.

That's why I like Xabi Alonso's character, he is a humble coach and he doesn't even care about being proud of what he has presented to the club and Leverkusen so far. I also remember when Xabi was linked with Real Madrid as a strong candidate to become Carlo Ancelotti's successor, but he said that he did not feel worthy to handle a club as big as Real Madrid. it would be very natural if there were many who respect and appreciate Xabi Alonso. as we know, so far Leverkusen has been able to play its matches with a positive trend without even losing. in this competition, Leverkusen achieved perfect points without losing. every match they play can be played impressively. In fact, Alonso doesn't always play his full starting eleven when his team plays matches in the group phase.

For me, Xabi Alonso's success so far wouldn't be complete if he didn't win one of the trophies in this season. at the very least, this competition could be a place to win a title for Alonso and his squad. because in the Bundesliga the challenges are quite difficult, tough and very challenging. it's not impossible that Leverkusen can do it, but the problem is that Bayern won't let them progress smoothly. likewise in this competition, even though Leverkusen is one of the strong challengers to win the trophy. but in fact, there are several teams that are as strong as Leverkusen. but if I had to choose one of the teams competing in the Europa League, Leverkusen would be my main choice. apart from that, I also appreciate the Leveskusen players who were able to perform very impressively. they play solidly, and prioritize teamwork. strong determination, and has a unique system. and there are no other words, other than we are waiting for this league to be rolled out again, especially after the playoffs are held.
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January 05, 2024, 05:42:02 PM
Considering how significantly improved Bayer Leverkusen are currently, I don't think there's any kind of applaud that Xabi Alonso is getting now that he doesn't deserve. Before he became the manager of Bayer Leverkusen, they were not considered as a major threat in the German Bundesliga talk more of in any European competition in the last decade but since the Spaniard took over the managerial position at the club, they've grown to become the most consistent team in the Italian league this season as well as the best Italian team in this season's UEFA Europa League competition.

I don't think there's anyone who's still in doubt over the capability of the Bayer Leverkusen team and I won't be surprised if the go on to win the Europa League trophy
It's very interesting how their consistency and stability has been shown and proven across Europe as seen in the fact that they are yet unbeaten in every league where they are participating currently and not only are they unbeaten but they continually posses a winning mentality which makes them seem like they are definitely going to win all the trophies.

I'm the europa, they have done so well almost replicating even more than they have done in the bundesliga, the fact they Xabi is very young and More like it's his first coaching career experience makes him stand out of the most because there have been other coach who has done something similar but not at an early stage in their career as this, Xabi has got the potential of becoming a world class coach beyond this season, which of course he is providing with the Leverkusen team and I'm very sure he deserves even more accolades.
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January 05, 2024, 05:34:20 PM
Yeah Leverkusen is a mediocre team, no one expect them can going so far, even though they perform better than Liverpool and Bayern Munich. But the vast majority still believe Bayern Munich will win Bundesliga, just like they won 10 seasons in a row, while Liverpool is playing in Premier League, which more competitive than Bundesliga.

But I believe Leverkusen can win at least one league, I feel they have better chance in Europa League than Bundesliga.

I really remember Alonso's words when interviewed, he doesn't expect Leverkusen to win any trophies (Bundesliga or European League) but he really hopes that in every match that Leverkusen plays, they will perform optimally and come out as winners. I think Leverkusen really haven't been beaten since this season's European League started, that's really an extraordinary achievement and will definitely make people not believe in that achievement. Having Alonso in the team is luck for Leverkusen, Leverkusen is a candidate team to win the European League this season.
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January 05, 2024, 05:07:08 PM


I don't have any evidence I could provide to support you that Spanish clubs tend to do well because they make UEL a priority. I have no idea how you found that out. Maybe you talked to some coaches from La Liga or some players, but I think it has nothing to do with making UEL their priority.
Looking at some of the current data, actually in my opinion when talking about the championship problem it is quite evenly distributed, it's just that for the most trophy holders of course it belongs to Spain, especially for the last 2 decades because from the period starting from 2006 to 2023 (last season) Sevilla is the club that gets the most Europa League trophies with 7 trophies coupled with 3 consecutive championships in 2014-2016 making the La Liga club's record in the Europa League not trivial and not directly at this time Spain still dominates in the acquisition of trophies when talking about competitions in the Champions League and Europa League because of the trophies that are difficult to win. In 2014-2016, the La Liga club's record in the Europa League cannot be said to be trivial and indirectly at this time Spain still dominates in the acquisition of trophies when talking about competitions in the Champions League and Europa League because of the trophies that are difficult to compete with Sevilla for the Europa League and Madrid for the Champions League.

None of these achievements have been trivial. Sevilla has played some extraordinary seasons in the Europa League and Real Madrid has done the same in the Champions League. Although I guess that what Real Madrid has done in the Champions League is probably worth more than what Sevilla has done in the Europa League. But the fact that Spanish clubs have won the most titles in these UEFA competitions in the last two decades doesn't mean that they prioritize the UEFA competitions. It has just turned out this way and yet Real Madrid is always fighting for all three titles if possible. They don't jut give up La Liga to play well in the Champions League.
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January 05, 2024, 04:54:06 PM

Xabi has caught the attention of many with his impressive performances at the helm of Leverkusen, he can showcase the strategies that can bring his club to the fore at the moment. In the Bundesliga they have been impressive, and in the Europa League, they have been the same, in fact, they are probably the only unbeaten club in two different competitions, the Bundesliga and the Europa League.
I am sure he will be a coach that big clubs will fight for, even recently he was rumored to be close to Real Madrid before Ancelotti was confirmed to have made a new contract with Real Madrid.
If he can bring Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga or the Europa League, his name will be even more fragrant and he will get a lot of praise from many people. Yes, I think he deserves it as an appreciation for what he has shown.
Xabi deserves all the applauds he’s getting now and will get more of he succeeds in clinching either the Bundesliga or the UEL. He’s transformed this mediocre Leverkusen team to a big night mare for most big gun clubs. This Leverkusen team has remained unbeaten in all competitions this season and are pretty comfortable in both competitions and this is the quality of a good coach.

 A sound and disciplined team who’s winning. I think Xabi is already getting on the radar of jobs for top clubs and soon he’ll be a big name and will be a hall of fame coach if he continues this way. Kudos Xabi,  he's shown the world that he's a talented coach and his recent success in the Bundesliga is enough prove that he's ready to step up to a bigger club where he'll be backed up with enough funds that would make him easily major silver wares.
Considering how significantly improved Bayer Leverkusen are currently, I don't think there's any kind of applaud that Xabi Alonso is getting now that he doesn't deserve. Before he became the manager of Bayer Leverkusen, they were not considered as a major threat in the German Bundesliga talk more of in any European competition in the last decade but since the Spaniard took over the managerial position at the club, they've grown to become the most consistent team in the Italian league this season as well as the best Italian team in this season's UEFA Europa League competition.

I don't think there's anyone who's still in doubt over the capability of the Bayer Leverkusen team and I won't be surprised if the go on to win the Europa League trophy
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January 05, 2024, 04:47:33 PM
Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.

Yep Xabi has an impressive record, after 40 years Sociedad B team able to promote to the segunda division under Xabi.
Leverkusen is on the right track to win the Bundesliga, Europa Lague and DFB Pokal with 26 unbeaten games in this season with only 3 draws.
Im sure we will see Leverkusen in the EL final.

Bayer Leverkusen is enjoying a remarkable change in the history of the team since the arrival of Xabi Alonso, his impact is vividly seen as he's good coaching abilities has been seen once again since he took over as rhe head coach of Leverkusen, his team is doing so well in the league leaders they are currently among the favorite teams to win the Europa League this season I think is a very good achievement for the young coach and I believe he's going to end it season getting more than one trophy for his team Bayer Leverkusen. The performance of Leverkusen is second to none this season because from the league they are enjoying winning streak of so many matches it won't be a surprise seeing them getting treble trophies I think they really deserve to win trophies this season to celebrate a good year and an amazing manager they have got in the person of Xabi Alonso.
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I don't have any evidence I could provide to support you that Spanish clubs tend to do well because they make UEL a priority. I have no idea how you found that out. Maybe you talked to some coaches from La Liga or some players, but I think it has nothing to do with making UEL their priority.
Looking at some of the current data, actually in my opinion when talking about the championship problem it is quite evenly distributed, it's just that for the most trophy holders of course it belongs to Spain, especially for the last 2 decades because from the period starting from 2006 to 2023 (last season) Sevilla is the club that gets the most Europa League trophies with 7 trophies coupled with 3 consecutive championships in 2014-2016 making the La Liga club's record in the Europa League not trivial and not directly at this time Spain still dominates in the acquisition of trophies when talking about competitions in the Champions League and Europa League because of the trophies that are difficult to win. In 2014-2016, the La Liga club's record in the Europa League cannot be said to be trivial and indirectly at this time Spain still dominates in the acquisition of trophies when talking about competitions in the Champions League and Europa League because of the trophies that are difficult to compete with Sevilla for the Europa League and Madrid for the Champions League.
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January 05, 2024, 04:35:51 PM

Xabi has caught the attention of many with his impressive performances at the helm of Leverkusen, he can showcase the strategies that can bring his club to the fore at the moment. In the Bundesliga they have been impressive, and in the Europa League, they have been the same, in fact, they are probably the only unbeaten club in two different competitions, the Bundesliga and the Europa League.
I am sure he will be a coach that big clubs will fight for, even recently he was rumored to be close to Real Madrid before Ancelotti was confirmed to have made a new contract with Real Madrid.
If he can bring Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga or the Europa League, his name will be even more fragrant and he will get a lot of praise from many people. Yes, I think he deserves it as an appreciation for what he has shown.
Xabi deserves all the applauds he’s getting now and will get more of he succeeds in clinching either the Bundesliga or the UEL. He’s transformed this mediocre Leverkusen team to a big night mare for most big gun clubs. This Leverkusen team has remained unbeaten in all competitions this season and are pretty comfortable in both competitions and this is the quality of a good coach.

 A sound and disciplined team who’s winning. I think Xabi is already getting on the radar of jobs for top clubs and soon he’ll be a big name and will be a hall of fame coach if he continues this way. Kudos Xabi,  he's shown the world that he's a talented coach and his recent success in the Bundesliga is enough prove that he's ready to step up to a bigger club where he'll be backed up with enough funds that would make him easily major silver wares.
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January 05, 2024, 04:12:41 PM
Yep Xabi has an impressive record, after 40 years Sociedad B team able to promote to the segunda division under Xabi.
Leverkusen is on the right track to win the Bundesliga, Europa Lague and DFB Pokal with 26 unbeaten games in this season with only 3 draws.
Im sure we will see Leverkusen in the EL final.
Sure, we can't deny that Xabi already did a great job. It is something extraordinary to lead Leverkusen in the race for the title of Bundesliga and they even unbeatable so far. Even Bayern Munich, they ever got a defeat but Leverkusen never got any defeat in any competition this season. Not every coach can do this, it requires special ability and full of commitment & dedication. With this stats, it is clear that Xabi has great skills to be the top manager (coach) in this football era.

Well, I also believe that Leverkusen will be in the final of UEL. Many people guess that Leverkusen will face Liverpool in the final round of this competition.  Smiley

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Villareal can be an underdog like how they reached UCL semi-final under Unai emery seasons ago. But they have new manager now and are not in a good shape of football. I dont know much about how they play, but the statistics are not in their favor. But, in Europa League history, Spanish clubs tend to do well, because they put always UEL as their priority.

Leverkusen is the real favorite alongside Liverpool due to their performance in their league and group stage. But their priority is also intriguing, because they are fighting for the league title under the pressure of bayern which is not easy to handle both competition in the same manner. Experience can often play a crucial role in a team's performance, and Xabi Alonso is new to this situation where he has to compete with already experienced teams and managers. I would put Roma as the most serious contender because of Mourinho.

I don't have any evidence I could provide to support you that Spanish clubs tend to do well because they make UEL a priority. I have no idea how you found that out. Maybe you talked to some coaches from La Liga or some players, but I think it has nothing to do with making UEL their priority.

Spanish clubs aren't amateurs. They know how to play this game and if a stronger club comes around and underestimates a team like Villareal, this can quickly backfire and we have seen that when Bayern Munich was eliminated by this supposed underdog.

But I don't think that Villareal has a big chance to win this competition. Sure I can be wrong as anyone else here, but as you said the signs at the moment are not in their favor.
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January 05, 2024, 03:37:03 PM
Yeah Leverkusen is a mediocre team, no one expect them can going so far, even though they perform better than Liverpool and Bayern Munich. But the vast majority still believe Bayern Munich will win Bundesliga, just like they won 10 seasons in a row, while Liverpool is playing in Premier League, which more competitive than Bundesliga.

But I believe Leverkusen can win at least one league, I feel they have better chance in Europa League than Bundesliga.

In round-robin tournaments, the difference in the class of teams (which definitely exists between Bayern and Liverpool on the one hand and Bayer Leverkusen on the other) is decisive and practically guarantees victory for the favorite. But in tournaments where there are knockout games, this difference is not decisive because of the randomness - any underdog can give a couple of good games and the difference between these three teams is not so great as to guarantee victory in the playoff games. Therefore, in the Europa League, Bayer is the same contender as Liverpool, albeit with slightly less chances.
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January 05, 2024, 03:22:31 PM
No no no Cheesy You are exaggerating this massively! If they were to become second let's say, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment and no, not everything falls apart and they will not be left with nothing. They are doing some great work and they are building a great team with future potential. Let's see what the situation is at the end of the season. If they lead the table and lose the title on the last day like Borussia Dortmund did, then everything you said is true. But if Bayern outcompetes them and Leverkusen finishes the season with more than 80 points and yet don't win the title, it was still a great performance they can build the next season upon. You are talking about disaster only. But they are from that.

The Europa League will keep them motivated as this would be the cherry on top of everything else. Assuming they become second in the Bundesliga closely behind Bayern and win the Europa League, it would have been a fabulous season for them knowing where they are coming from.
That's right, we also have to look realistically at where they come from before determining their level of success.
If Leverkusen does not win the Bundesliga this season it will not be a big disappointment for them because realistically they are still below Bayern in terms of strength and finances if that is normal.
And so far what they have shown in the Europa League is extraordinary, they are still unbeaten and if no surprises or bad things happen to them then it is possible that they will progress further in the Europa League this season.
Regardless of whether they succeed or not in winning the Europa League this season, I think this team has developed much better this season.

Disappointment can be relative right? Of course they won't be happy if they don't win the Bundesliga when they were very close to winning it, but I think that is a no brainer and doesn't need any discussion. Every player in the world would be disappointed if there is an opportunity to win a big title and then the project fails, but being the strongest competitor of Bayern Munich on that level is an achievement on its own.

The rest will need time but it would be good if they don't fall too far behind early in the Bundesliga because that will keep them thrilled and focused. That's the right condition to go big in the Europa League.
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January 05, 2024, 02:35:15 PM
Same with you Cheesy even though Leverkusen and Xabi are still in a very extraordinary condition but of course in this case we cannot exaggerate at this time as if Leverkusen has become the champion because after all, at this time the situation of Leverkusen and Bayern is still in competition so we cannot exaggerate it..

If you look at the current point difference, it is only 4 points behind. I think it's only a matter of time until Munich returns to chasing these points and even becomes champion. I don't doubt the performance of Leverkusen and Xabi Alonso, but we are aware that Munich is truly a candidate to win number one in the Bundesliga. And when it comes to the European league, I think everyone agrees that many people talk about Liverpool's best chance of becoming champions. This is not who the champion is, but this is who has the greatest chance of becoming champion.
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January 05, 2024, 01:40:01 PM

Bayer Leverkusen first spot, they have the Bundesliga title on their mind and it will be hugh dissapointement if at the end of the 2023/2024 Bundesliga campaign, they failed to win the title, everything fall apart, and they will be left with nothing to think about other than frustration and deep regrets, just like the scenario that happen to Borrusia Dortmund the previous season, they gave up really bad and that's one fight that was invalid. Xabi Alonso doing an incredible job for Bayer Leverkusen this season, they remained unbeaten and this is not a slight issue but a ready full combat.

No no no Cheesy You are exaggerating this massively! If they were to become second let's say, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment and no, not everything falls apart and they will not be left with nothing. They are doing some great work and they are building a great team with future potential. Let's see what the situation is at the end of the season. If they lead the table and lose the title on the last day like Borussia Dortmund did, then everything you said is true. But if Bayern outcompetes them and Leverkusen finishes the season with more than 80 points and yet don't win the title, it was still a great performance they can build the next season upon. You are talking about disaster only. But they are from that.

The Europa League will keep them motivated as this would be the cherry on top of everything else. Assuming they become second in the Bundesliga closely behind Bayern and win the Europa League, it would have been a fabulous season for them knowing where they are coming from.
Same with you Cheesy even though Leverkusen and Xabi are still in a very extraordinary condition but of course in this case we cannot exaggerate at this time as if Leverkusen has become the champion because after all, at this time the situation of Leverkusen and Bayern is still in competition so we cannot exaggerate it.

On the other hand, it is not wrong in this case to expect a new thing in the domestic competition (Bundesliga) for the problem of champions but something like this still has to have considerable proof because in the end we must also realize that Bayern is still a strong candidate there.
As for the current situation of Leverkusen in domestic competitions and the Europa League, they are indeed still one of the candidates with the performance shown still very good but that does not mean there is no competition in it because after all the highest probability at this time for the Bundesliga is Bayern and for the Europa League is Liverpool.
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January 05, 2024, 01:32:55 PM
The only way to see Galatasaray winning the title would be by the elimination of Liverpool and Leverkusen both in the tournament before facing Galatasaray. Meanwhile Galatasaray would need to be consistent also of course.

But I'm probably just dreaming because I don't feel like Galatasaray would perform very well in each round. I say each round because I'm considering them as they would get past Sparta Prague without big issues. If they have big issues even with eliminating Sparta Prague then there is no hope for Galatasaray at all in the Europa League for later rounds truthfully.  Sad

I think almost all of us think the same thing Galatasaray must get rid of Leverkusen and Liverpool if they want to become champions but here I consider Galatasaray as an underdog team which can surprise any team, Mauro Icardi can be relied upon in this situation this player is one of the productive strikers in the Champions League by scoring 5 goals and now Mauro Icardi plays at a different level so it can still be relied on. Anyway, don't underestimate Galatasaray especially if Mauro Icardi is in the line up no matter whether his opponent Liverpool or Leverkusen.
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