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When it comes to Leverkusen I believe in them not only in the Bundesliga but also here. Xabi Alonso's system is working smoothly in every important competition they play. There is no reason for Leverkusen not to take the Europa League as serious as the Bundesliga also. Because they aren't a regular in the Champions League recently.

Leverkusen must be aiming to win one of these competitions this season for sure. Because all this effort can't be for anything else. They must be aware of their potential at the moment. They have really challenging opponents on this road in both competitions though.

But as long as they keep up this level they are still going to be one of the top contenders in both of them.

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Quote from: hahay on November 17, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

If Bayer Leverkusen can maintain these good results and great performance at least until the season break or the first half of the season, then at least Bayer Leverkusen really has a chance of getting the treble. Indeed, maybe judging Bayer Leverkusen to get a treble this season seems too exaggerated but after all, we won't know what will really happen later. But if I may predict, then at least at this moment I am still very confident that Bayer Leverkusen will probably get the treble. But yes, if for example Bayer Leverkusen fails to get the treble, then at least there is still the DFB Pokal which seems to promise a trophy for Bayer Leverkusen. Because after all, in the Bundesliga competing with Bayern Munich and in the European League, there is still Liverpool who also have a chance to win the trophy. Therefore, if Bayer Leverkusen fails in these two competitions, then of course Bayer Leverkusen will get the DFB Pokal.

Consistency is key in a competition, if the team can maintain their good results, it reflects a strong foundation. Bayer Leverkusen's impressive performance raises hopes for a potential treble. This hope is not the first time for Leverkusen have ever reached. They have done that in 2001/02 season where they failed to capitalize the treble chance. encompassing success in domestic league, cup, and continental competitions, demands sustained excellence. Xabi Alonso has created a great atmosphere in the club with compactness and flawless football. The upcoming fixtures will be crucial, testing their resilience against varied opponents. If Leverkusen manages this and be ambitious, they could emerge as serious contenders for footballing glory.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 17, 2023, 12:38:00 PM

Are we gonna have the same discussion of all the years about Bundelisga? In the end is gonna be win by Bayern Munich, no matter if the team in front is Leverkusen Dortmund Leipzig, they always make the impossible to give the tittle to the bavarian team.

So i hope to at least Leverkusen do a very good performance in both Bundesliga and here Europa League.

Should the Bundesliga teams be comfortable with what has become normal instead of getting up and doing better to stop Bayern Munich's dominance? That is the question for your question because so far Bayern Munich is a team whose dominance is difficult to stop and frankly the Bundesliga is just a farmers' league for them.

Something must continue to change in the Bundesliga so that the tough competition at the top can make these teams scary in Europe. So far only Bayern Munich is scary in the Champions League, while several other teams find it very difficult to prove their quality even though they can be expected to perform well. Leverkusen is different this season and they are expected to stop Bayern Munich's title dominance, then they also have to prove themselves in the Europa League by winning the title this season.

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Are we gonna have the same discussion of all the years about Bundelisga? In the end is gonna be win by Bayern Munich, no matter if the team in front is Leverkusen Dortmund Leipzig, they always make the impossible to give the tittle to the bavarian team.

So i hope to at least Leverkusen do a very good performance in both Bundesliga and here Europa League.

I will not talk about Bundelisga since we are in the Europa League topic but Leverkusen definitely have a good chance to win the Europa League title this season since they are very fit, receiving few goals while scoring many and they aren't real threat for them except maybe Liverpool. That said before knowing the teams that will join from Champions League here, most likely Group F, A and B (Sevilla maybe?) might have good teams, otherwise the other ones are normal ones.

It doesn't matter what kind of team will continue in theEuropa League after finishing in third place in the Champions League later because ya, Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen at this moment have good quality too. Therefore, of course Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will still be able to compete well with teams that previously played in the Champions League. In essence, I believe that the current Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen it seems also have the same quality as the favorite teams in the Champions League . So ya, I very confident that the Europa League this season will still be belongs by the teams that have played in the Europa League from the start, such as Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on November 17, 2023, 12:33:37 PM

Laverkusen performance is quite good this season, both in the Bundesliga and in the European League. We can look at tables points in these two competitions, so we will see they sit in the top position. Xabi Alonso squad has so far been unbeaten in these two elite competitions, and I think this positive trend will persist in the future. I think they deserve to be one of the candidates here, although we don't underestimate the other favorite clubs. Liverpool is another strong candidate that I think should be taken into account, and don't forget AS Roma with Jose Muorinho, I quite like the Portuguese man. I'm pretty sure that next season Leverkusen will play in the European Champions League, by winning the Europa League or finishing in the top three of the Bundesliga.

Yeah that's true, just like I mention on my last post Bayer Leverkusen is a team that has a very good potential, I actually never believe they will perform this good on this season, I know they have been doing very well in other season but this season has been so amazing for them because there performance cannot be compared to others.

At first I was even thinking that Bayern Munich will be more good in performance than Bayer Leverkusen but they were able to outperform Bayern Munich this season as such leading there group table.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 17, 2023, 12:38:00 PM

Are we gonna have the same discussion of all the years about Bundelisga? In the end is gonna be win by Bayern Munich, no matter if the team in front is Leverkusen Dortmund Leipzig, they always make the impossible to give the tittle to the bavarian team.

So i hope to at least Leverkusen do a very good performance in both Bundesliga and here Europa League.

I will not talk about Bundelisga since we are in the Europa League topic but Leverkusen definitely have a good chance to win the Europa League title this season since they are very fit, receiving few goals while scoring many and they aren't real threat for them except maybe Liverpool. That said before knowing the teams that will join from Champions League here, most likely Group F, A and B (Sevilla maybe?) might have good teams, otherwise the other ones are normal ones.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 17, 2023, 07:55:16 AM

Bayern Leverkusen is currently a formidable and very promising team to win either trophies and I think that's their target this season, they play like they really want to end the season with a trophy because when we compare their performance in both leagues, they are doing really good topping at not leagues.

When compared to how well they did performed last season, it's obvious they have improved way better than they were last season and with their performance they are most likely to qualify for the champions league because they have been able to maintain top position in their domestic league and back here in the Europa they are at the top of their group winning all their home games in the Europa so far.

Yes, if we compared Leverkusen performance last seasons with the current season, it is very different because it seem like Alonso has learn valuable lesson in the past and made it better to bring his club to be more stable likes the current season and the proof is thats Leverkusen is really experiencing true consistency. really stronger even in the domestic league as you said Leverkusen look very stronger and stable.
So the stronger candidate at the moments is likely to be taken by Leverkusen to get the European League trophy, but after the clubs failed to qualify for the Champions League, we can consider it again because I'm worried thats there are others club from the Champions League who will break Leverkusen dominanced and for the times being, I am always betting the Leverkusen matches was very profitable.

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It is not the time yet to talk about what Bayer Leverkusen will achieve. The "if" is still very big here. In the Europa League I think everyone who remembers the games against Roma knows that they should have easily won against Roma, if it wasn't for Mourinho's defensive tactics to prevail and be lucky in the end and win that semifinal. This year Leverkusen plays even better and that is why they definitely belong to the top group in the Europa League competition.

Bayern Leverkusen has really shown impressive performance in their campaign this season both in the bundesliga and in the European competition and I must say that with the kind of energy they've unveiled so far this season, I see them likely to achieve one of the trophies this season, either the Bundesliga or the Europa League though it seems too early to make predictions of teams that will emerge the season's winner but a good beginning can lead to a good ending as Bayern Leverkusen has started very well and it's expected of them to end very well.

Bayern Leverkusen have made a fresh start this season, their performances speak for themselves. They have performed well in other seasons but we have never seen such good performances from them in other seasons as they have been able to perform this season. Apart from being in the best position in the bundesliga, they have been performing very well in the Europa League this season. At the start of the season, Liverpool were considered to be one of the most promising teams for the Europa League, but with the way Bayern Leverkusen have been performing this season, there is no doubt that Bayern Leverkusen have as much potential as Liverpool. If Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen meet in the Europa League final, I think the game will be much more competitive. We always look forward to watching such competitive matches.

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Are we gonna have the same discussion of all the years about Bundelisga? In the end is gonna be win by Bayern Munich, no matter if the team in front is Leverkusen Dortmund Leipzig, they always make the impossible to give the tittle to the bavarian team.

So i hope to at least Leverkusen do a very good performance in both Bundesliga and here Europa League.

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Quote from: poodle63 on November 17, 2023, 12:02:51 PM

Leverkusen was good in bundesliga but it was bad on europa league. Xabi needs to put europa league as his major concern. Im not saying bundesliga should be discredited but considering that leverkusen was leaving from europa league. That can be a good motivation for leverkusen to win europa league then go to the UCL. Leverkusen must able to go to the final since the club is performing on fire in bundesliga. This club is in the same level as bayern right now.
Winning europa league will help leverkusen to get a fixed spot qualify for UCL. UCL has become the main target by anyclub caused by it will give lots of potential income for the club. Even allegri as juventus's coach saw it as a trophy.
Awaiting for xabi to show another surprise. he is only starting with the cheap squad

Laverkusen performance is quite good this season, both in the Bundesliga and in the European League. We can look at tables points in these two competitions, so we will see they sit in the top position. Xabi Alonso squad has so far been unbeaten in these two elite competitions, and I think this positive trend will persist in the future. I think they deserve to be one of the candidates here, although we don't underestimate the other favorite clubs. Liverpool is another strong candidate that I think should be taken into account, and don't forget AS Roma with Jose Muorinho, I quite like the Portuguese man. I'm pretty sure that next season Leverkusen will play in the European Champions League, by winning the Europa League or finishing in the top three of the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: temple on November 17, 2023, 04:11:39 AM

It is not the time yet to talk about what Bayer Leverkusen will achieve. The "if" is still very big here. In the Europa League I think everyone who remembers the games against Roma knows that they should have easily won against Roma, if it wasn't for Mourinho's defensive tactics to prevail and be lucky in the end and win that semifinal. This year Leverkusen plays even better and that is why they definitely belong to the top group in the Europa League competition.

Bayern Leverkusen has really shown impressive performance in their campaign this season both in the bundesliga and in the European competition and I must say that with the kind of energy they've unveiled so far this season, I see them likely to achieve one of the trophies this season, either the Bundesliga or the Europa League though it seems too early to make predictions of teams that will emerge the season's winner but a good beginning can lead to a good ending as Bayern Leverkusen has started very well and it's expected of them to end very well.

Leverkusen was good in bundesliga but it was bad on europa league. Xabi needs to put europa league as his major concern. Im not saying bundesliga should be discredited but considering that leverkusen was leaving from europa league. That can be a good motivation for leverkusen to win europa league then go to the UCL. Leverkusen must able to go to the final since the club is performing on fire in bundesliga. This club is in the same level as bayern right now.
Winning europa league will help leverkusen to get a fixed spot qualify for UCL. UCL has become the main target by anyclub caused by it will give lots of potential income for the club. Even allegri as juventus's coach saw it as a trophy.
Awaiting for xabi to show another surprise. he is only starting with the cheap squad

Winning the Bundesliga or maintaining a good position in the top four clubs in Bundesliga qualifies them directly to the Champions League immediately. They don't have to wait until the end of the season before they do that.
Also, the Europa League would be definitely difficult to win, one of the ways to learn is through failures and another person's failure. They lost to Jose Mourinho and Roma and I believe they must have learnt some quality lessons.

I'd want them to challenge for the tittle that's the Bundesliga until the end of the season, watching Bayern Munich winning for tue past years made that league completely boring. Would be excited to see a bloody change.

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This season was probably the worst that Ajax Amsterdam is going through. I thought that after their two wins in the league this could be the moment where they can turn everything around, but it isn't happening. The loss against Brighton and now also the draw against Almere in the last minute of the game is another setback instead of a turnaround. I believe that this season will have consequences for several more seasons. Usually Ajax is a real talent factory, but when they don't play in the Champions League, they are no as attractive anymore for young players.

They shouldn't be too heavy on themselves, to be fair everyone has bad years, and that could happen. The idea is simple, Brighton is having a wonderful year right? They are doing great, and they did quite great last year as well, so they are on the rise, and Ajax on the other hand is doing terrible, right? They are not doing all that great and their results are unsatisfactory.

So the question is simple, in five years, do you see Ajax being better than Brighton? I can see that for sure, and that is the important part. Consistency is the key in sports, and a team that is consistently good, could always have bad years, and a team that rarely ever does good, could end up having a blast season. We will see Brighton get worse, and Ajax get better.

They should be very heavy on themselves because the consequences for Ajax Amsterdam have a nightmare season weigh much heavier than the consequences for Brighton having a nightmare season. Ajax Amsterdam was the first address for many young players who couldn't yet make the next step to the big clubs in England or Spain, but still wanted to play at a club with great perspective and the Champions League. Perspective is falling apart, Champions League is history. The Eredivisie itself is by far not as attractive as the Premier League. Playing for a club in the Premier League, but not in the Champions League is several times better than playing in the Eredivise without Champions League.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 17, 2023, 04:28:59 AM

Quote from: temple on November 17, 2023, 04:11:39 AM

It is not the time yet to talk about what Bayer Leverkusen will achieve. The "if" is still very big here. In the Europa League I think everyone who remembers the games against Roma knows that they should have easily won against Roma, if it wasn't for Mourinho's defensive tactics to prevail and be lucky in the end and win that semifinal. This year Leverkusen plays even better and that is why they definitely belong to the top group in the Europa League competition.

Bayern Leverkusen has really shown impressive performance in their campaign this season both in the bundesliga and in the European competition and I must say that with the kind of energy they've unveiled so far this season, I see them likely to achieve one of the trophies this season, either the Bundesliga or the Europa League though it seems too early to make predictions of teams that will emerge the season's winner but a good beginning can lead to a good ending as Bayern Leverkusen has started very well and it's expected of them to end very well.

Leverkusen was good in bundesliga but it was bad on europa league. Xabi needs to put europa league as his major concern. Im not saying bundesliga should be discredited but considering that leverkusen was leaving from europa league. That can be a good motivation for leverkusen to win europa league then go to the UCL. Leverkusen must able to go to the final since the club is performing on fire in bundesliga. This club is in the same level as bayern right now.
Winning europa league will help leverkusen to get a fixed spot qualify for UCL. UCL has become the main target by anyclub caused by it will give lots of potential income for the club. Even allegri as juventus's coach saw it as a trophy.
Awaiting for xabi to show another surprise. he is only starting with the cheap squad

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Quote from: Richbased on November 17, 2023, 04:28:59 AM

Quote from: temple on November 17, 2023, 04:11:39 AM

It is not the time yet to talk about what Bayer Leverkusen will achieve. The "if" is still very big here. In the Europa League I think everyone who remembers the games against Roma knows that they should have easily won against Roma, if it wasn't for Mourinho's defensive tactics to prevail and be lucky in the end and win that semifinal. This year Leverkusen plays even better and that is why they definitely belong to the top group in the Europa League competition.

Bayern Leverkusen has really shown impressive performance in their campaign this season both in the bundesliga and in the European competition and I must say that with the kind of energy they've unveiled so far this season, I see them likely to achieve one of the trophies this season, either the Bundesliga or the Europa League though it seems too early to make predictions of teams that will emerge the season's winner but a good beginning can lead to a good ending as Bayern Leverkusen has started very well and it's expected of them to end very well.

Yeah possibly they could win one trophy this season because there performance has been very good, perhaps this season has brought favour for them because they have played up to 15 matches since September till now and they have won 14 matches out of 15 and draw only 1 match, what an impressive performance by Bayer Leverkusen and they are leading there group table while Bayern Munich is on the second position on the table.

Bayern Leverkusen will surely win a trophy this season because they deserve it, perhaps this is one of there best year of good performance.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 17, 2023, 09:20:24 AM

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Bayern Leverkusen is currently a formidable and very promising team to win either trophies and I think that's their target this season, they play like they really want to end the season with a trophy because when we compare their performance in both leagues, they are doing really good topping at not leagues.

Imagine if Leverkusen can become a trilogy (win Bundesliga, Europa and DFB Pokal) this really a huge achievement for them since they haven't get any trophy since 1992. Do you think which is the easiest league from the three league I mentioned before? I choose Europa league because seeing Bayern Munich to lose looks impossible lol.

Leverkusen fans were enjoyed this because they have seen Leverkusen can able to occupy first place for weeks in Bundesliga and for the trophies indeed some people doubt Leverkusen will be able to maintain their performance until end of season because it's hard to broke the domination of Bayern Munich but for Europa league Leverkusen is one of the strong candidate to win the trophy moreover Leverkusen performance was very impressive during group stages and everything still possible to do so but if Xabi Alonso really gets the trophy with this team then he will made new history

Leverkusen have already to qualified to the next round so they will be more comfortable to facing 5th matches against FC Hacken later because Leverkusen have to target anymore however FC Hacken is not strong opponent for Leverkusen especially for first met Leverkusen can able to win with big scores and i think the result of this match will not so different because most likely Leverkusen will going to win this match

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 17, 2023, 10:13:45 AM

For West Ham and Freiburg, both of them can be guaranteed to qualify if they succeed in winning their next match in Group A of the European League. West Ham will face TSC who will definitely not qualify and Freiburg will play Olimpiakos and this is where the obstacle for Freiburg occurs. The difference between Olimpiakos and Freiburg is 5 points and if Olimpiakos wins this match, of course they will pave the way to qualify for the final match against TSC.

But that is indeed a bit difficult to realize considering that Freiburg will be the host in the second round and in the first round Olimpiakos also lost against Freiburg. This will be a decisive match for Freiburg and Olimpiakos to qualify for the last 16 of the European league.

Freiburg will be the favorite when facing Olympiakos. In the first leg, both of them saw how their opponents created opportunities. Olympiakos can play more openly when they play at home. and that created opportunities for them, even though they ultimately lost to Freiburg in the first leg. but in the second leg, Freiburg will make a strategy to overcome the Olympiakos striker. they are quite dangerous.
because currently Freiburg and West Ham have the same points. If you want to qualify directly, Freiburg must avoid conceding and score more goals. West Ham and Freiburg still have the same chance of 1 direct ticket to the round of 16.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 16, 2023, 05:31:49 PM

To be honest, I don't want to discourage United fans, but with the current situation and condition of United's game, it will be difficult for the Red Devils to win their last two matches in the Champions League group phase. Then, will they finish in 3rd place to have a ticket to the playoffs of this competition? There is very little hope, even though in football it is always difficult to predict. There is no other way, apart from just following their progress in every match, especially in the Champions League.

As for Sevilla, it seems their fate will end the same as United.
Now, they are at the bottom with only 2 points. as for the match against PSV, it is not certain that Sevilla will be able to get out of the pressure and win the match. Apart from that, the last match will be at Lens headquarters. What is certain is that this team's chances are not like last season. It is very likely that Sevilla will resign in the Champions League group phase and will not have the opportunity to appear in the Europa League competition. but, as I said, in football it is unique. We'll see, every match they play

Man United is having a pretty bad season to date and they have lost their bottom players as solid defensive guards, so Man United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 will be much more difficult. Losing Eriksen and Hoojlund will certainly affect their performance on the front lines, even though this season Erik Ten Hak has not given Eriksen the opportunity to start. Visiting Galatasaray's headquarters was not an easy match because Man United looked so inconsistent when playing at home and even had to accept a 2-3 defeat in front of their own crowd.

Their final match in the group phase will be against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford and perhaps at that time Man United will still not be able to field several important players in defensive positions. Realistically, Man United may have to fight to qualify for the Europa League rather than aiming for the runner-up position which is much more difficult. Likewise with Sevilla, their chances of playing in the European league are currently still quite difficult because they have two tough matches that they have to play in the future.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 17, 2023, 09:20:24 AM

Quote from: Weawant on November 17, 2023, 07:55:16 AM

Bayern Leverkusen is currently a formidable and very promising team to win either trophies and I think that's their target this season, they play like they really want to end the season with a trophy because when we compare their performance in both leagues, they are doing really good topping at not leagues.

Imagine if Leverkusen can become a trilogy (win Bundesliga, Europa and DFB Pokal) this really a huge achievement for them since they haven't get any trophy since 1992. Do you think which is the easiest league from the three league I mentioned before? I choose Europa league because seeing Bayern Munich to lose looks impossible lol.

If Bayer Leverkusen can maintain these good results and great performance at least until the season break or the first half of the season, then at least Bayer Leverkusen really has a chance of getting the treble. Indeed, maybe judging Bayer Leverkusen to get a treble this season seems too exaggerated but after all, we won't know what will really happen later. But if I may predict, then at least at this moment I am still very confident that Bayer Leverkusen will probably get the treble. But yes, if for example Bayer Leverkusen fails to get the treble, then at least there is still the DFB Pokal which seems to promise a trophy for Bayer Leverkusen. Because after all, in the Bundesliga competing with Bayern Munich and in the European League, there is still Liverpool who also have a chance to win the trophy. Therefore, if Bayer Leverkusen fails in these two competitions, then of course Bayer Leverkusen will get the DFB Pokal.

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For West Ham and Freiburg, both of them can be guaranteed to qualify if they succeed in winning their next match in Group A of the European League. West Ham will face TSC who will definitely not qualify and Freiburg will play Olimpiakos and this is where the obstacle for Freiburg occurs. The difference between Olimpiakos and Freiburg is 5 points and if Olimpiakos wins this match, of course they will pave the way to qualify for the final match against TSC.

But that is indeed a bit difficult to realize considering that Freiburg will be the host in the second round and in the first round Olimpiakos also lost against Freiburg. This will be a decisive match for Freiburg and Olimpiakos to qualify for the last 16 of the European league.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 17, 2023, 09:20:24 AM

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Bayern Leverkusen is currently a formidable and very promising team to win either trophies and I think that's their target this season, they play like they really want to end the season with a trophy because when we compare their performance in both leagues, they are doing really good topping at not leagues.

Imagine if Leverkusen can become a trilogy (win Bundesliga, Europa and DFB Pokal) this really a huge achievement for them since they haven't get any trophy since 1992. Do you think which is the easiest league from the three league I mentioned before? I choose Europa league because seeing Bayern Munich to lose looks impossible lol.

Leverkusen have been in great form this season. They hold the top spot in the Bundesliga. They are 2 points ahead of Bayern Munich. And the team is consistently performing well in every match. On the other hand, he is playing very well in the Europe League matches. It's hard to say which title will be easier for Leverkusen to win. Because there are strong teams like Liverpool and Atalanta in Europa League. So winning the Europa League title is not an easy task. I would say if Leverkusen only focuses on the Bundesliga then maybe the team can dominate the Bundesliga this season. Because their team is very strong this season.

The Bundesliga title will be harder to win. Winning against Bayern in 34 games is so much harder than winning a group against Qarabag, BK Häcken and Molde and then face harder opponents in a two-leg matchup. It may not be easier by a lot, but winning the Bundesliga is harder.

What is the chance that Sevilla wins the La Liga title? And what is the chance that the win the Europa League?

I think this is an example that shows quite well why these knockout competitions allow for more variance.

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