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November 14, 2023, 11:55:52 AM
I dont overanalyze the phase groups on european sub torunaments like Europa League and Conference, because some big teams play with less effort or in some times with subs, so it can change so much when they are in the final stages of the tournament, and taht teams gears up a lot.
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November 14, 2023, 11:42:49 AM
We can say already that Ajax are done in the Europa League this season. Losing against Brighton 2 times in a row brought their end. They still have a mathematical chance of course but isn't much realistic considering how many points Marseille and Brighton have collected so far.

They need Brighton to lose their remaining matches while they are winning against Marseille away and AEK home. I can't trust this Ajax even in that AEK match honestly. They just need to regain their strength as soon as possible. They had better focus on the Eredivisie with everything they have got to finish the season in a decent place.
Honestly, Ajax had a very difficult group, I understand them not getting it. I feel like a third place would make sense for them, not sure if third place goes to conference league like how in UCL third place goes to europa, but if that is the case then it's fine, they will keep on fighting. Think about it, we are talking about both Brighton, who are having a great season, and Marseille, which is not a bad team at all. So when you combine those two together, it becomes obvious that they are going to end up not being in the top two.

Ajax could have, I mean not like it would be impossible, but they are having a bad season, their league is not that awesome neither, not too bad though, so it's understandable that they would finish the group third place. Fourth place would be difficult to handle though, that is not really all that fair and I think it is going to end up being a little different and difficult for them to handle in the end.
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November 14, 2023, 11:17:00 AM

I think Laverkusen will secure perfect points in this group phase, and the remaining two matches in the future are likely to be wiped out with a win. I thought Liverpool would be unbeatable before, but unexpectedly they lost points on matchday 4 against Toulouse, but for me Klopp squad still deserves to be the favorite.

On the other hand, there are two unbeaten clubs apart from Laverkusen, Marsielle and Atalanta, but both clubs failed to pick up perfect points. Slavia Praha also cannot be underestimated, Mourinho squad must admit that their strengths are quite balanced after beating each other.

That's right when teams from the Champions League join the competition again, the competition will automatically become more intense. For now we only see a few teams that are favorites, in the future it will clearly be very different when the competition enters the quarter-finals and semifinals.
Leverkusen is definitely going pass the group stage of the Europa this season as they have won all four game so far and have the heights point I'm their group already for me I don't see the remaining two games they have to play as any challenge for them as they are currently in the best form to successfully win those fixtures.

Marseille tho unbeaten in the Europa they have continually performed poorly in their domestic league making it feel like they are much better with the Europa than their domestic league, but then when other teams from the UCL will be joining them it's most likely they may not be able to stay much long enough because the competition will become more tensed than it has been at the group stage were the played against teams with relatively equal strength and some weaker than they are. Mourinho's team has been too inconsistent to really speculate how well they will perform in the Europa.
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November 14, 2023, 10:36:54 AM
Real Betis only needs 1 more win to qualify from group C and their next opponent is Sparta Prague. Actually, the difference in points between these two teams is quite different from 5 points and in the previous meeting, Real Betis lost to Sparta Prague. This should be a place for revenge for the previous defeat and even though this is an away match, Real Betis will definitely still be favored to win. However, if Sparta Prague loses this match then they will lose the opportunity to become runners up in the group and that place will belong to Rangers. I can't wait to bet on this fight but it's still quite a long way off about 2 weeks from now.
Betis was never lose from Sparta Prague before because on the last meeting they can able to win with scores 2-1 and Betis loses was happened when they fight against Rangers in the first match of this competition but since that Betis was never tasted the loses again in all competitions and with 9 points Betis can occupy first place on group standings and they have 4 points above to Sparta Prague the team who in the third place and indeed mathematically Betis only needed 1 point to qualified but i think they can do more than that which mean Betis have good opportunity to win the match because i think Betis want to finish at first place after group stages ended and after international break if there is no players who got injured i think Betis will be able to overcomes Sparta Prague
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November 14, 2023, 10:14:30 AM
This season was probably the worst that Ajax Amsterdam is going through. I thought that after their two wins in the league this could be the moment where they can turn everything around, but it isn't happening. The loss against Brighton and now also the draw against Almere in the last minute of the game is another setback instead of a turnaround. I believe that this season will have consequences for several more seasons. Usually Ajax is a real talent factory, but when they don't play in the Champions League, they are no as attractive anymore for young players.
Yeah truly this season has been the worst season for Ajax, because irrespective of how they were not too perfect last season but can never be compares with there performance this season because there last season was better and they were more in a good form than now because they were able to win most of there numerous matches.

But I don't know what has gone wrong with the club because it seems they are moving from better performance to worst performance, checking there last 13 matches you will see that they only win 2 matches out of 13 games and lose 7 matches, this is there worst performance ever, imagine as big as Ajax that normally play well in every season is now struggling to win a match, however is very clear that they are not going far this season so perhaps they should go and check themselves to know were there poor performance is coming from in other for them to be more prepared as they are coming back next season.
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November 14, 2023, 09:05:22 AM
Until now especially 3 teams have really impressed me with their statistics: Slavia Prague, Liverpool and Leverkusen.

Maybe you will say "What's up with Slavia Prague?"  Grin  But they are doing really good in Group G now. 10 goals scored 2 goals conceded in a group with Roma. They even played both games against Roma already and they are the leader with 9 points. As for Leverkusen and Liverpool they are already doing really great. I see both of them as the biggest title contenders. Slavia Prague for a title challenge? I wouldn't expect it at all of course.
These all are having impressive run in early games but after four matches we have only Bayer Leverkusen which is having 12 points and guaranteed top spot into their group even few others are also having better performance and chances for the leading but last loses are creating some delay into their leads chances in group stages matches.

We have surprises into few matches, but many teams are doing good, and we have no chance for any big upset into next few games as well but who is going through into last eight it's never been easy as in February we will have teams from the Champions League will also join them and this will bring good changes into this league for the final result.
I think Laverkusen will secure perfect points in this group phase, and the remaining two matches in the future are likely to be wiped out with a win. I thought Liverpool would be unbeatable before, but unexpectedly they lost points on matchday 4 against Toulouse, but for me Klopp squad still deserves to be the favorite.

On the other hand, there are two unbeaten clubs apart from Laverkusen, Marsielle and Atalanta, but both clubs failed to pick up perfect points. Slavia Praha also cannot be underestimated, Mourinho squad must admit that their strengths are quite balanced after beating each other.

That's right when teams from the Champions League join the competition again, the competition will automatically become more intense. For now we only see a few teams that are favorites, in the future it will clearly be very different when the competition enters the quarter-finals and semifinals.
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November 14, 2023, 08:53:29 AM
They shouldn't be too heavy on themselves, to be fair everyone has bad years, and that could happen. The idea is simple, Brighton is having a wonderful year right? They are doing great, and they did quite great last year as well, so they are on the rise, and Ajax on the other hand is doing terrible, right? They are not doing all that great and their results are unsatisfactory.
So the question is simple, in five years, do you see Ajax being better than Brighton? I can see that for sure, and that is the important part. Consistency is the key in sports, and a team that is consistently good, could always have bad years, and a team that rarely ever does good, could end up having a blast season. We will see Brighton get worse, and Ajax get better.
Well it's normal for a team to feel especially when they're not performing at their best, and in some cases it helps them get put heads together to get better and I believe that's what they should be working towards currently, just like you said every team has their bad year, and Ajax are currently in their bad year, well they've experienced good times in the past and believe things would still get better all they need to do right now is to keep working hard to get better.
 Ajax has been better than Ajax even before now, though they might be facing some challenges currently but they've won alot of trophies, including the Champions league 3 consecutive times whereas Brighton just started being good and famous in recent times and are just playing their 1st European competition, moreover I doubt if Brighton would be able to beat prime Ajax team under Erik Ten Hag's managerial tenure.

Ajax team has faced a dire crisis this season. As we have seen in previous seasons, they would sell the most talented player in the squad, then they would be able to find young talented players to strengthen their squad. But this season's scenario is completely different. We have never expected a team like Ajax to perform as poorly as Ajax have been performing in the Eredivisie league since the start of the season. Ajax's main weakness is their poor defence. Eredivisie league leaders PSV have conceded just 5 goals in 12 matches, while Ajax have conceded 24 goals in 11 matches. If the coach can't tighten up the team's defence, I don't expect Ajax to do well this season.
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November 14, 2023, 08:36:34 AM

They shouldn't be too heavy on themselves, to be fair everyone has bad years, and that could happen. The idea is simple, Brighton is having a wonderful year right? They are doing great, and they did quite great last year as well, so they are on the rise, and Ajax on the other hand is doing terrible, right? They are not doing all that great and their results are unsatisfactory.

So the question is simple, in five years, do you see Ajax being better than Brighton? I can see that for sure, and that is the important part. Consistency is the key in sports, and a team that is consistently good, could always have bad years, and a team that rarely ever does good, could end up having a blast season. We will see Brighton get worse, and Ajax get better.
Well it's normal for a team to feel especially when they're not performing at their best, and in some cases it helps them get put heads together to get better and I believe that's what they should be working towards currently, just like you said every team has their bad year, and Ajax are currently in their bad year, well they've experienced good times in the past and believe things would still get better all they need to do right now is to keep working hard to get better.

 Ajax has been better than Ajax even before now, though they might be facing some challenges currently but they've won alot of trophies, including the Champions league 3 consecutive times whereas Brighton just started being good and famous in recent times and are just playing their 1st European competition, moreover I doubt if Brighton would be able to beat prime Ajax team under Erik Ten Hag's managerial tenure.
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November 14, 2023, 08:15:52 AM
They shouldn't be too heavy on themselves, to be fair everyone has bad years, and that could happen. The idea is simple, Brighton is having a wonderful year right? They are doing great, and they did quite great last year as well, so they are on the rise, and Ajax on the other hand is doing terrible, right? They are not doing all that great and their results are unsatisfactory.

It cannot be denied that Brighton performance was quite good, even Ajax was unable to stop the flow of the ball when Brighton players pressed their defense. In midfield, the same thing often happens, Brighton with the collaboration of Mitoma and Ansu Fati is able to disrupt the opponent's defense. In the first half, when Ansu Fati had a chance and was out of control, the advantage could be put to good use. There was nothing surprising in the second half, especially as the second goal made the Ajax players mentally down.

So the question is simple, in five years, do you see Ajax being better than Brighton? I can see that for sure, and that is the important part. Consistency is the key in sports, and a team that is consistently good, could always have bad years, and a team that rarely ever does good, could end up having a blast season. We will see Brighton get worse, and Ajax get better.

Talking about the next 5 years is quite difficult, because Brighton current achievements cannot be underestimated in producing talented young players who are now pursuing careers at big clubs. We know that Ajax itself is no stranger to the birth of top players who graduated from there, but can Ajax current management respond to the quality of its players in the past?


However, if I consider the group as a whole, the fact is that Marseille and Bayer Leverkusen also still unbeaten so far. Also even greater is about Bayer Leverkusen, because Bayer Leverkusen managed to win in all matches, while Atalanta had one draw and Marseille had two draws. So ya, with those who have managed to go undefeated so far, then of course they are certain to qualify for the next round.
Leverkusen is in a favorable condition, and it is not surprising that in their group they are showing the same thing, namely unbeaten. In the Domestic League, Leverkusen is making history again from 11 matches played without defeat, there is nothing wrong if their target this season involves the Europa League trophy to take advantage of the optimal playing condition. Leverkusen next match will be at Hacken headquarters early next month.

I think even if they don't win, they will still be safe and they can rest their core players in preparation for facing tough opponents Dortmund.
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November 14, 2023, 08:12:22 AM
Real Betis only needs 1 more win to qualify from group C and their next opponent is Sparta Prague. Actually, the difference in points between these two teams is quite different from 5 points and in the previous meeting, Real Betis lost to Sparta Prague. This should be a place for revenge for the previous defeat and even though this is an away match, Real Betis will definitely still be favored to win. However, if Sparta Prague loses this match then they will lose the opportunity to become runners up in the group and that place will belong to Rangers. I can't wait to bet on this fight but it's still quite a long way off about 2 weeks from now.
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November 14, 2023, 08:09:01 AM
Until now especially 3 teams have really impressed me with their statistics: Slavia Prague, Liverpool and Leverkusen.

Maybe you will say "What's up with Slavia Prague?"  Grin  But they are doing really good in Group G now. 10 goals scored 2 goals conceded in a group with Roma. They even played both games against Roma already and they are the leader with 9 points. As for Leverkusen and Liverpool they are already doing really great. I see both of them as the biggest title contenders. Slavia Prague for a title challenge? I wouldn't expect it at all of course.
These all are having impressive run in early games but after four matches we have only Bayer Leverkusen which is having 12 points and guaranteed top spot into their group even few others are also having better performance and chances for the leading but last loses are creating some delay into their leads chances in group stages matches.

We have surprises into few matches, but many teams are doing good, and we have no chance for any big upset into next few games as well but who is going through into last eight it's never been easy as in February we will have teams from the Champions League will also join them and this will bring good changes into this league for the final result.
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November 14, 2023, 07:42:53 AM
Atalanta performance in this competition was much better compared to their performance in Serie A this because Atalanta has good records for group stage and so far only them is the team who still unbeatable in the last 4 matches on group D and this results also makes Atalanta can able to occupy first place on group standings and their chances to qualified was very high because for the next match against Sporting i think Atalanta only needed to gets at least draw result but first met from these teams looks good for Atalanta because they can able to beat Sporting and not impossible for 5th matches Atalanta can repeat that result again and if Atalanta can able to overcomes Sporting then they will ended group stage as champion group and automatically advances to round of 16
So true. Atalanta only needs to get 1 point to ensure they can qualify from the group stage. Currently, only 1 club seems to have confirmed that they will qualify for the next stage, namely Leverkusen in Group H. But Atalanta in Serie A is also not that bad. Or you could even say they are still quite good because currently Atalanta is in 5th place in the Serie A standings. But it seems like Atalanta seems to be playing more comfortably in the European League. So I agree that Atalanta's performance in the Europa League looks much more convincing.

Atalanta's performance in the Europa League is quite good. They won three out of four matches. Played well in every match. Even then I thought sporting would try their best to go top of the points table. But after a 2-1 defeat against Atalanta, their chances of going top of the table ended. Atalanta, Leverkusen and Liverpool are considered to be the favorites for the Europa League title so far. I look forward to seeing which teams qualify from the Champions League to the Europa League.
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November 14, 2023, 07:35:23 AM
Atalanta and Sporting Lisbon are the two competitive clubs in their group and is obvious that the both teams will qualify for the next round so whichever way it is i dont think if it will affect anyone of them should one lose to the other but however, Atalanta needs to win or draw in other to be confident about their qualification to the next round.

The both clubs have performed excellently well so far despite Atalanta not being too in-form in their league but for them to give more of their energy in the Europa league might really mean that they are up to something good.
There is some truth in what you say, but in my opinion Atlanta is quite good in the local league because they are in the top 5 clubs. Indeed, in this league Atlanta appears impressive, having never been defeated so far in Match 4. The reason is for Sporting Lisbon to remain careful or alert in maintaining their point difference in the standings, next month they will play against Atalanta at home. In the match, it will determine that Lisbon will continue to the next round of 16. If Libon suffers a defeat and Strum wins big in the score later, it will threaten to get the runner-up position later.
After four rounds we have few teams which are able to stay at the top and have strong case for the qualification into next round and mostly are from the big European leagues as their quality and performance is surely having big difference from teams which are competing with them after having good performance into their domestic leagues but still not able to give any strong challenge as it's never been easy for them to compete with their available sources.

Atlanta already having 10 points from their last four games and now needed a draw for the staying at the top of this group Sorting CP could be other team and Sturm Graz will be dropped to Conference league as they have one win against another minor club in this group.
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November 14, 2023, 05:36:39 AM
We can say already that Ajax are done in the Europa League this season. Losing against Brighton 2 times in a row brought their end. They still have a mathematical chance of course but isn't much realistic considering how many points Marseille and Brighton have collected so far.

They need Brighton to lose their remaining matches while they are winning against Marseille away and AEK home. I can't trust this Ajax even in that AEK match honestly. They just need to regain their strength as soon as possible. They had better focus on the Eredivisie with everything they have got to finish the season in a decent place.
After having terrible time in early round of the Dutch League and Europa League now they are facing consequences and have early exited from the Europa League as they fail to win any game and in last two games against Brighton they concede four goals with not able to score any goal.

Next game against Marseille in France is also not easy with group leaders are in good form in this competition even they are also having problems in domestic league, but things are surely good for the AEK Athens and Marseille to qualify from this group.

In domestic league they have some chance for better spot even at the top PSV and Feyenoord both are doing impressive and will not allow them to have anything better for the top ranks.
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November 14, 2023, 04:51:45 AM
We can say already that Ajax are done in the Europa League this season. Losing against Brighton 2 times in a row brought their end. They still have a mathematical chance of course but isn't much realistic considering how many points Marseille and Brighton have collected so far.

They need Brighton to lose their remaining matches while they are winning against Marseille away and AEK home. I can't trust this Ajax even in that AEK match honestly. They just need to regain their strength as soon as possible. They had better focus on the Eredivisie with everything they have got to finish the season in a decent place.

Ajax team is very weak this season. I didn't expect this  to do well in the Europa League. Because of this, Ajax  is performing terribly  in the Eredivisie league this season. They  have won only 3 out of  11 matches and the team is 12th i n the points table. And with such  poor performances against Marseille and Brighton,  their chances of performing well against them were slim.

I expected  to see Marseille and Brighton  at the top of the points  table. But my guess was that Brighton would top the table. However, Brighton is 1 point behind Marseille. I am looking forward to watching the second leg of Brighton vs Marseille.
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November 14, 2023, 04:23:25 AM
We can say already that Ajax are done in the Europa League this season. Losing against Brighton 2 times in a row brought their end. They still have a mathematical chance of course but isn't much realistic considering how many points Marseille and Brighton have collected so far.

They need Brighton to lose their remaining matches while they are winning against Marseille away and AEK home. I can't trust this Ajax even in that AEK match honestly. They just need to regain their strength as soon as possible. They had better focus on the Eredivisie with everything they have got to finish the season in a decent place.
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November 14, 2023, 04:14:11 AM
Apart from that, several teams that are likely to drop out of the Champions League have begun to appear, although they are still difficult to predict. However, several teams that failed in the Champions League will give color to this competition in the race for the title. Also, there is another English team that cannot be underestimated, namely Brighton. De Zerbi's squad is very difficult to predict. Not infrequently, when this team plays against stronger opponents, Brighton is always able to keep up.
well, this is what I am thinking right now, even though Leverkusen looks very competitive, but if Sevilla doesn't qualify for the UCL and has to move to the european league, the situation will definitely be different and we all know which team has the most european league trophies and its only Sevilla who has more. has a lot of experience and has the right strategy to get the european league title and if Sevilla has to move to this competition it looks like Leverkusen and Liverpool will find stronger challengers.

even so, it is quite interesting if Sevilla will compete in the european league seeing that the competition is quite strong and interesting to bet on.
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November 14, 2023, 04:05:24 AM
Atalanta performance in this competition was much better compared to their performance in Serie A this because Atalanta has good records for group stage and so far only them is the team who still unbeatable in the last 4 matches on group D and this results also makes Atalanta can able to occupy first place on group standings and their chances to qualified was very high because for the next match against Sporting i think Atalanta only needed to gets at least draw result but first met from these teams looks good for Atalanta because they can able to beat Sporting and not impossible for 5th matches Atalanta can repeat that result again and if Atalanta can able to overcomes Sporting then they will ended group stage as champion group and automatically advances to round of 16
So true. Atalanta only needs to get 1 point to ensure they can qualify from the group stage. Currently, only 1 club seems to have confirmed that they will qualify for the next stage, namely Leverkusen in Group H. But Atalanta in Serie A is also not that bad. Or you could even say they are still quite good because currently Atalanta is in 5th place in the Serie A standings. But it seems like Atalanta seems to be playing more comfortably in the European League. So I agree that Atalanta's performance in the Europa League looks much more convincing.
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November 14, 2023, 03:29:08 AM
Atalanta performance in this competition was much better compared to their performance in Serie A this because Atalanta has good records for group stage and so far only them is the team who still unbeatable in the last 4 matches on group D and this results also makes Atalanta can able to occupy first place on group standings and their chances to qualified was very high because for the next match against Sporting i think Atalanta only needed to gets at least draw result but first met from these teams looks good for Atalanta because they can able to beat Sporting and not impossible for 5th matches Atalanta can repeat that result again and if Atalanta can able to overcomes Sporting then they will ended group stage as champion group and automatically advances to round of 16
Comparing Atalanta's performance in the Italian Serie A league and in the European league, of course it cannot be the same because these tournaments are different competitions, but so far Atalanta is still performing well in these two competitions. In my opinion, Atalanta's performance this season and last season is almost the same as last season. Atalanta finished in 5th place while currently Atalanta is also in 5th place in Serie A and the possibility of advancing to the top can still be achieved because the season is still long but so far Atalanta's performance is still quite good both in the Italian league and in the European league.

It is possible that Atalanta can qualify for the next round because Atalanta has much higher points than the others and the next match Atalanta will playing at home against Sporting, of course this is a big advantage for Atalanta to maintain its full points.
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November 14, 2023, 02:49:15 AM
Until now especially 3 teams have really impressed me with their statistics: Slavia Prague, Liverpool and Leverkusen.

Maybe you will say "What's up with Slavia Prague?"  Grin  But they are doing really good in Group G now. 10 goals scored 2 goals conceded in a group with Roma. They even played both games against Roma already and they are the leader with 9 points. As for Leverkusen and Liverpool they are already doing really great. I see both of them as the biggest title contenders. Slavia Prague for a title challenge? I wouldn't expect it at all of course.

@ILuckyGuyI for me Liverpool performance is more shocking because I never expected them to fight for this title but so far they have shown that they’re very serious about winning this competition. However I wonder if at some stage they’ll stop bothering to win this competition because they have a big chance of winning the premier league hence I feel that they’ll target winning more premier league matches than winning the Europa League matches.
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