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May 24, 2024, 09:56:21 AM
Well Atalanta also silenced my bet at that time, now the Europa League Final has finished and next season both Leverkusen and Atalanta will appear in the UCL and this will also be a surprise because the two will meet again in the Champions League. The final result is an important lesson for Leverkusen that this defeat is not the end of everything. A much bigger challenge awaits at UCL and Xabi Alonso must be more enthusiastic about improving his squad performance. Not only that, in the Bundesliga Leverkusen is challenged to defend its championship title.

Previously I want to congratulate Atlanta on winning the second European League trophy this season, Atlanta was finally able to increase their number of trophies and made Italy finally able to send 6 teams to play in the Champions League next season, from the beginning Atlanta is not the team that is the favorite to win the Europa League this season because indeed we still have Liverpool, Leverkusen and also Milan in the list of strong candidates for the championship,  But after Atlanta eliminated Liverpool, of course everyone still thinks that if that is was just luck and until reaching the Europa League final, Atlanta still continues to be underestimated, but in fact in the final match we can see how tough Atlanta is in destroying Leverkusen defense with 3 goals without reply.

Atlanta underrated victory is of course a crushing defeat for those who favored Leverkusen in the final, I'm pretty sure many of us here risked a lot of money for Leverkusen victory because of their unbeaten record this season, so it is certain that many of us here actually lost a lot of money, no doubt most of us here make Leverkusen as the favorite to win because of their fairly consistent performance,  But that's when we forget how Atlanta was able to destroy Liverpool in the previous match.  
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May 24, 2024, 09:42:47 AM
One thing that is certain is the reason Leverkusen lost in yesterday's final was thanks to Gesperini's strategy of implementing his man to man high press. The strategy worked well and even made the Leverkusen players feel confused considering there were no gaps they could exploit. I think Gesperini has really studied how Xabi Alonso's strategy works so he made his anthesis.

Even though Atalanta is not a team that is thought to be able to stop Leverkusen, they have previously proven their strength by eliminating Liverpool and Xabi Alonso should have known that they would provide a surprise that could stop the dominance of his team. Well, this is the era of Italian clubs and I think the current Italian coaches are also starting to rise in popularity and don't want to continue to be left behind.
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May 24, 2024, 09:40:36 AM

This condition certainly led Atalanta to win the Europa League and is ready to add to the Italian quota that will play in the UCL. Leverkusen, on the other hand, ended their unbeaten streak this season and they certainly failed to win 3 trophies this season. They may still have a chance to win the DFB-Pokal against FC Kaiserslautern.

Surprises like this often happen when the favorite team is defeated it's just that we didn't expect Leverkusen not to score
Regardless of whether this is just luck for Atalanta what is certain is that 3 goals is the best achievement moreover this is the final match.

H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.

I think Atalanta's victory was not just luck because after all, Atalanta managed to beat Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen also with the same score 3-0. Therefore, I think Atalanta is really focusing on the Europa League to get a trophy even though, in reality, Atalanta also lost in the Coppa Italia final and there Atalanta was unable to score a goal. Therefore, maybe it was their tactic to beat Bayer Leverkusen in the final match and of course, Atalanta got very impressive results because Atalanta managed to beat two title candidate teams in the Europa League this season, Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen.
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May 24, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
Atalanta perhaps came up with one of the most surprising performances of recent years. First they eliminated the biggest candidate team for the championship, then they scored 3 goals in the final against one of the biggest teams in Europe, which was breaking records all year long.
I think it was a legendary performance, we can talk about Atalanta's success for many years. I wonder what they can do in the coming years, maybe one day they can become a team that plays at the top of the Champions League Smiley
Atalanta is much better prepared than Leverkusen so in my opinion it is a bit of an exaggeration to think that Atalanta will be in the top flight in the UCL next season, there are many great teams they will face in the UCL especially since Leverkusen is also taking part in the UCL next season, this will be their second meeting in a different competition, I think next season Xabi Alonso will learn from his defeat yesterday where his team played without moving against Atalanta, Leverkusen, which is considered a strong team, finally lost in the UEL final with a landslide score of three goals without reply and that is a defeat that will also remembered by all Leverkusen supporters.

Atalanta deserves to get the UEL trophy this season because they played quite well compared to Leverkusen and besides that Leverkusen also doesn't mean they failed to beat them because maintaining consistency is difficult especially being a team that is unbeaten in several matches, it's only natural that they suffered their first defeat of the season I'm sure there is still time for Leverkusen to play better next season. Everyone hopes that Leverkusen will maintain its consistency next season.
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May 24, 2024, 09:34:32 AM
H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
The surprise given by Atalanta really silenced many people who had favored Leverkusen in the final match. So it was quite natural that at that time there were many people who were surprised by the result of the match which was completely unexpected, because Leverkusen itself also had a target of three trophies this season. But it has ended very sadly although Leverkusen can still get more praise from their fans now for the extraordinary achievements they have made this season.
Well Atalanta also silenced my bet at that time, now the Europa League Final has finished and next season both Leverkusen and Atalanta will appear in the UCL and this will also be a surprise because the two will meet again in the Champions League. The final result is an important lesson for Leverkusen that this defeat is not the end of everything. A much bigger challenge awaits at UCL and Xabi Alonso must be more enthusiastic about improving his squad performance. Not only that, in the Bundesliga Leverkusen is challenged to defend its championship title.
After Atalanta defeated Bayer Leverkusen to win the UEFA Europa League trophy, many people around me who actually gambled on that game have been telling me of how they lost huge money because of the result of that game. I didn't bet on the game because I personally thought that it was a going to be a difficult game for both teams but fir the people that did stake their bet on that game, what actually made them to believe that it was going to be an easy win for Bayer Leverkusen have left in huge surprise. We all saw what Atalanta did to a big club like Liverpool who were considered as one of the favorites to win the competition this season so what made most of you to write Atalanta off after eliminating a big club like Liverpool?. Maybe most of you were carried away by Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run in all competitions but unfortunately for Leverkusen, Atalanta gave them more than what they can chew.
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May 24, 2024, 09:23:42 AM
H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
The surprise given by Atalanta really silenced many people who had favored Leverkusen in the final match. So it was quite natural that at that time there were many people who were surprised by the result of the match which was completely unexpected, because Leverkusen itself also had a target of three trophies this season. But it has ended very sadly although Leverkusen can still get more praise from their fans now for the extraordinary achievements they have made this season.
Well Atalanta also silenced my bet at that time, now the Europa League Final has finished and next season both Leverkusen and Atalanta will appear in the UCL and this will also be a surprise because the two will meet again in the Champions League. The final result is an important lesson for Leverkusen that this defeat is not the end of everything. A much bigger challenge awaits at UCL and Xabi Alonso must be more enthusiastic about improving his squad performance. Not only that, in the Bundesliga Leverkusen is challenged to defend its championship title.
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May 24, 2024, 07:27:36 AM
I was always one of the guys here who dont fully back Bayern Leverkusen in this tournament, in the last time i start to back them a litle bit more because they were showing a unique habilty to scape from every dificult situation, but also yesterday in this thread i said, for me it was super high odds 4.33 for Atalanta to win, and you see Atalanta oblited LEverkusen with a Lookman out of this world yesterday.

It is quite difficult to adequately assess the chances of a team and put a normal odds when the opponent is a team that has never lost and is now entering its last match of the season. So I'm not surprised by these odds, although like many people I believed in Liverkusen's victory. They have come a long way anyway and left behind broken records, so they can be proud of themselves
Thats funny. Before the game, many predicted a Leverkusen triumph. You couldnt bet against a season-unbeaten club, right? Football's beauty is its unpredictability. On reflection, this result doesnt change the overall picture. But Leverkusen has had a great season. Without many star players, going unbeaten in the league and reaching the European final is difficult. They'll be devastated, but they may learn from it. Still, it shouldnt interfere with what they've done. It should energize them for next season. Since they've defeated the finest, I think they'll be stronger than ever. Remember: Leverkusen's greatness is just beginning.
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May 24, 2024, 07:22:51 AM
A few days ago I had expressly said that it was wrong to underestimate Atalanta in this competition and to give them as sure losers. Leverkusen have done extraordinary things both in the Bundesliga and in the Europa League, but last night they found in front of them a team that wasn't afraid of anyone, not even the European bigs. Here someone had said that Atalanta only had luck, I say instead that Atalanta concentrated and used their strengths on the cups and slightly neglected Serie A. Eliminating Sporting Lisbon, Liverpool and Marseille doesn't really seem like luck to me, but underneath there is meticulous teamwork devoted to getting the best possible result. And last night we had confirmation of that, they beat the favourites without ever risking any major attacks from the opponents, I only get compliments for Atalanta
Well said and very true especially in the part about not underestimating Atalanta and thinking that their success is accidental. After the 3-0 victory over Liverpool at Anfield it was clear that we are facing a very unusual team, which can play very mediocre in the championship, but can tune in for one game and make every effort to win against any opponent. This is probably the merit of Gasperini, that he managed to prepare the team so mentally and physically that they reached the final, beat very strong opponents and in the final managed to beat a team that had not lost for 361 days. So this victory is a great achievement in itself and Gasperini has been going to this day for a long time, doing his best for this victory, and we can only wish Alonso good luck, because Bayer showed some phenomenal level of play this season, winning the Bundesliga.
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May 24, 2024, 07:09:11 AM
Atalanta secured a historic 3-0 victory over Bayer Leverkusen, clinching their first-ever European trophy. Ademola Lookman stole the spotlight with hat-trick, becoming the first player to achieve this feat in a European final in 49 years. I believe that Coach Gian Piero Gasperini’s intensity and tactical brilliance played a crucial role in Atalanta’s success. Atalanta fans, whose teams are often overshadowed by giants such as AC Milan and Inter Milan, are living a fairy tale. Additionally, Bayer Leverkusen’s impressive 51-match unbeaten run came to an end.

Atalanta perhaps came up with one of the most surprising performances of recent years. First they eliminated the biggest candidate team for the championship, then they scored 3 goals in the final against one of the biggest teams in Europe, which was breaking records all year long.
I think it was a legendary performance, we can talk about Atalanta's success for many years. I wonder what they can do in the coming years, maybe one day they can become a team that plays at the top of the Champions League Smiley
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May 24, 2024, 07:02:27 AM
The surprise given by Atalanta really silenced many people who had favored Leverkusen in the final match. So it was quite natural that at that time there were many people who were surprised by the result of the match which was completely unexpected, because Leverkusen itself also had a target of three trophies this season. But it has ended very sadly although Leverkusen can still get more praise from their fans now for the extraordinary achievements they have made this season.

I myself didn't expect Leverkusen to lose by three goals, which is quite a lot of goals, at first I thought Leverkusen would be able to beat Atalanta even though the score was narrow. but their game was really chaotic, there were no sharp opportunities, in fact none of Leverkusen's attacks could penetrate Atalanta's defense. I felt annoyed when Leverkusen was two goals behind in the first half, and I thought Leverkusen could make a comeback, but in fact they didn't. Leverkusen had to go home with a defeat where they didn't even score a goal.

Leverkusen's defeat against Atalanta was their first defeat, and for Atalanta they were the first team to beat Leverkusen. Atalanta successfully won the trophy and at the same time broke Leverkusen's unbeaten record. This is a big surprise given by Atalanta to Leverkusen. but this is indeed an extraordinary achievement for Leverkusen and of course I think Xabi Alonso has done his best.
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May 24, 2024, 06:47:06 AM
H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
The surprise given by Atalanta really silenced many people who had favored Leverkusen in the final match. So it was quite natural that at that time there were many people who were surprised by the result of the match which was completely unexpected, because Leverkusen itself also had a target of three trophies this season. But it has ended very sadly although Leverkusen can still get more praise from their fans now for the extraordinary achievements they have made this season.
Leverkusen didn't lose a single match this season, but they faced a heavy defeat in the Europa League final against Atalanta, losing 3-0. It's a reminder that what goes up must come down. Despite their incredible achievements this season, this unexpected loss in the final tarnished their record which not expected by anyone's. But in football, such surprises can happen. Hopes for winning treble this season came to end.
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May 24, 2024, 06:32:25 AM
H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
The surprise given by Atalanta really silenced many people who had favored Leverkusen in the final match. So it was quite natural that at that time there were many people who were surprised by the result of the match which was completely unexpected, because Leverkusen itself also had a target of three trophies this season. But it has ended very sadly although Leverkusen can still get more praise from their fans now for the extraordinary achievements they have made this season.
even the bookmakers didn't think that Atalanta would win yesterday's final because as far as I remember Leverkusen odds were around @1.8 and Atalanta @4
It is very clear that the bookmakers really favor Leverkusen because of their very strong performance and look very convincing when they have the dream of realizing the treble winner title and also getting a new history without being defeated.
It seems like we have all been lied to by Leverkusen performance which initially looked very strong but it turns out we trusted Leverkusen too much and ignored H2H.
while H2H, although it doesn't have much influence, there are still a few good predictions if we consider the match results from H2H and we won't easily believe Leverkusen performance.

a very bad dream, a surprise occurred in the European League final, which at first was really believed by most people to say Leverkusen would win, but it turned out that Atalanta smiled even wider when they heard someone say that Leverkusen would win.
Atalanta managed to give a very big surprise to its fans who were very happy after their favorite team scored 3 scores without a fight.
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May 24, 2024, 06:13:58 AM

This condition certainly led Atalanta to win the Europa League and is ready to add to the Italian quota that will play in the UCL. Leverkusen, on the other hand, ended their unbeaten streak this season and they certainly failed to win 3 trophies this season. They may still have a chance to win the DFB-Pokal against FC Kaiserslautern.

Surprises like this often happen when the favorite team is defeated it's just that we didn't expect Leverkusen not to score
Regardless of whether this is just luck for Atalanta what is certain is that 3 goals is the best achievement moreover this is the final match.

H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
everyone must be thinking as you are thinking, which is that this is an opportunity for Leverkusen to improve their meeting record with Atalanta and beat them in the final. As you said, one of our considerations for predicting like that or thinking like that is because we saw that Leverkusen was extraordinary this season and without experiencing defeat before meeting Atalanta, in the end it was Atalanta who managed to give them defeat this season.

This was Atalanta's success, because they didn't waste much time and were able to take the lead immediately after the match started. They know very well Leverkusen's strength this season and they implemented a strategy that Leverkusen could not anticipate. They also managed to silence key players from Leverkusen so they couldn't do much to give Leverkusen something in this match. Once again Leverkusen had to recognize Atalanta's superiority.
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May 24, 2024, 06:11:23 AM
H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
The surprise given by Atalanta really silenced many people who had favored Leverkusen in the final match. So it was quite natural that at that time there were many people who were surprised by the result of the match which was completely unexpected, because Leverkusen itself also had a target of three trophies this season. But it has ended very sadly although Leverkusen can still get more praise from their fans now for the extraordinary achievements they have made this season.
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May 24, 2024, 05:52:46 AM

This condition certainly led Atalanta to win the Europa League and is ready to add to the Italian quota that will play in the UCL. Leverkusen, on the other hand, ended their unbeaten streak this season and they certainly failed to win 3 trophies this season. They may still have a chance to win the DFB-Pokal against FC Kaiserslautern.

Surprises like this often happen when the favorite team is defeated it's just that we didn't expect Leverkusen not to score
Regardless of whether this is just luck for Atalanta what is certain is that 3 goals is the best achievement moreover this is the final match.

H2H from the previous two matches, of course Atalanta is superior. But many people, including me, think it's time for Leverkusen. The most basic consideration is that Leverkusen is unbeaten this season in the Bundesliga, while Atalanta is still struggling in Serie A to maintain 5th position so they can play in the UCL in the next season.
Yes, the match is over, and this is the condition on the field. One goal turns out to be difficult to get, let alone win the match.
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May 24, 2024, 05:30:53 AM
It is quite difficult to adequately assess the chances of a team and put a normal odds when the opponent is a team that has never lost and is now entering its last match of the season. So I'm not surprised by these odds, although like many people I believed in Liverkusen's victory. They have come a long way anyway and left behind broken records, so they can be proud of themselves
Leverkusen's defeat at the end of the Europa League competition is something that should be said to be normal because Leverkusen has struggled quite extraordinary throughout this season in the Europa League. Moreover, Leverkusen's record in its own domestic league is also quite good this season so losing in the final match should not be considered a bad achievement for Leverkusen. So it is still quite natural for fans and Leverkusen itself to feel proud of what Leverkusen has achieved this season.
I agree with you that this is a normal result even though it occurred in a match that was not expected at all, but their defeat in this match does not in any way negate what they have done for a full season this season, they are extraordinary.
Winning and losing is something that definitely happens in football, we can't always want to see a team win or vice versa. And this season Leverkusen have tried their best to do their best, but what they want doesn't always produce good results, sometimes they have to experience defeat like this.
They must immediately forget about their defeat in the Europa League final, now they must focus on their preparations for next season. Remember their task next season will be tougher.
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May 24, 2024, 12:41:17 AM
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I'm sure many people thought Leverkusen would win, including me, but in the early minutes I felt Leverkusen appeared nervous, it looked like they weren't really focused on the match, until Lookman was able to appear from behind suddenly and welcome the ball which could ultimately be a first goal for Atalanta, I thought Leverkusen would put more pressure on Atalanta but in reality it wasn't until the first half that Leverkusen was two goals behind. Of course, with Leverkusen already two goals behind, Xabi panicked. And also, in my opinion, here Leverkusen is more pressured by Atalanta.

and I think Leverkusen can turn things around by making a comeback like previous matches that happened like this, they were behind in the first half but they could turn things around in the second half. However, it turned out that in the second half Lookman scored another goal in the 76th minute with a strong left foot kick which allowed Atalanta to add another goal. and indeed I think Leverkusen's performance last night was a mess, they could barely penetrate Atalanta's defense. And I congratulate Atalanta on the victory, for Xabi himself I don't think this is the end of everything, he has tried well to be able to bring Leverkusen to this point. Once again congratulations to Atalanta. Because Atalanta is a team that can beat Leverkusen throughout Leverkusen's matches and has broken Leverkusen's unbeaten record.
I think if the opportunities that Leverkusen have can actually become goals and there are no blunders, then the enthusiasm of the Leverkusen players will be brighter and they can play much better to catch up.
At least if they can catch up and maintain draw then the decision will be penalty shootout and it will be possible for Leverkusen to win and win the Europa League title this season.
But everything has happened and I will not talk much about Leverkusen performance in yesterday final match because clearly the results did not match expectations and Leverkusen did not play as expected to be able to win over Atalanta.

Opportunity to get treble winner has been lost due to failure in the Europa League and now there is only 1 DFB Cup final match remaining against Kaiserslautern, this match should be victory for Leverkusen and they will have at least 2 titles.
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This condition certainly led Atalanta to win the Europa League and is ready to add to the Italian quota that will play in the UCL. Leverkusen, on the other hand, ended their unbeaten streak this season and they certainly failed to win 3 trophies this season. They may still have a chance to win the DFB-Pokal against FC Kaiserslautern.

Surprises like this often happen when the favorite team is defeated it's just that we didn't expect Leverkusen not to score
Regardless of whether this is just luck for Atalanta what is certain is that 3 goals is the best achievement moreover this is the final match.
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May 24, 2024, 12:20:17 AM
It is quite difficult to adequately assess the chances of a team and put a normal odds when the opponent is a team that has never lost and is now entering its last match of the season. So I'm not surprised by these odds, although like many people I believed in Liverkusen's victory. They have come a long way anyway and left behind broken records, so they can be proud of themselves
Leverkusen's defeat at the end of the Europa League competition is something that should be said to be normal because Leverkusen has struggled quite extraordinary throughout this season in the Europa League. Moreover, Leverkusen's record in its own domestic league is also quite good this season so losing in the final match should not be considered a bad achievement for Leverkusen. So it is still quite natural for fans and Leverkusen itself to feel proud of what Leverkusen has achieved this season.
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It's hard to believe, after going unbeaten for 51 games, the 52 games to play which is the final of the Europa League, Bayern Leverkusen loses to Atalanta. That's quite a big heartbreak for Bayern Leverkusen teams, fans, and even gamblers who must have bet and predicted a straight win for Bayern Leverkusen against Atalanta, and they lost to it.
However, the 3-0 loss to Bayern Leverkusen was surprising and many people were shocked by how Bayern Leverkusen let the Europa League trophy slip away from their hands on the final day.
Well, that's football for you, it's not always predictable and I agree that many must have carried Leverkusen to win because this is not a time you need to lose the game and playing against a formidable side like Atalanta they will want to be in tip top shape but seriously, no one saw that defeat coming. From what I could deduce in the game was that Leverkusen players felt they could turn things around at anytime that's why they weren't really bothered even after the second goal came in. To them, they are known for turning scored around so when Atalanta kept pressing and asking all the questions, they were also trying to look for a way to enter the eighteen yard box of the opponents and cause havoc but it's as if Atalanta came prepared, not leaving anywhere open for them to take advantage of.
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