UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season - page 9.

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Quote from: KingsDen on July 25, 2024, 10:45:23 PM

Wait!
Now that champions league format has changed and it will be played as a league, did anything happen to Europa League? I mean, will the Europa League also be played like a league? If yes, clubs falling from the champions league to the Europa league, how will they fit in. Or does it mean that no club is joining the Europa league from the champions league again? A polite clarity can help me...

Previously I had time to explain about all of this.
UCL or Europa League indeed this season all will start the competition with new format, there is no group phase or knockout round like before and of course this will show that the UCL teams will not be here or it can be said that there is no transfer of teams from the Champions League knockout round to the Europa League knockout round.
Everything will be much more interesting, there is no chance for the defending Europa League champions to be able to compete again and fight for the title again, I think this is better way to be able to provide greater opportunities for all teams.

For now the Europa League has undergone several qualifying round matches, there are three qualifying rounds in the Europa League and there are still quite lot of matches left in the future because now it has just entered the second qualification with the first leg match that finished yesterday.
By the way this could be good opportunity for those of us who like to look for betting options with good chance, there are several superior teams that will only play against weak team, anyone will definitely take advantage of conditions like this.

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Now that champions league format has changed and it will be played as a league, did anything happen to Europa League? I mean, will the Europa League also be played like a league? If yes, clubs falling from the champions league to the Europa league, how will they fit in. Or does it mean that no club is joining the Europa league from the champions league again? A polite clarity can help me...

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The qualifying round for the Europa League is no less interesting than the qualifying round for the Champions League, there are several top clubs such as Ajax Amsterdam and Braga who will play matches today. They have to win match after match and continue playing in the next round to be able to qualify for the Europa League season 2024/25.

Here are some betting opportunities for the clubs that will play today's matches but analyze them first because matches like this are very difficult to predict. If you are in doubt, you can just bet on single bet Wink

Ajax must first beat Vojvodina if they want to be in the Europa League, their first match will be at home and that is an advantage for them. They have to win the first leg so that in the second leg their task will be easier because they only need a draw. Vojvodina last season was ranked 4th in the domestic league so they are in this qualifying round. I predict that Ajax will be able to win and take them to the European League.

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Unfortunately Ajax only won narrowly 1:0 with Vojvodina I think this can't be said to be completely safe because in the second leg Ajax will play away if Ajax can't increase their total score they will fail to qualify for the next round or at least get a draw, vice versa Vojvodina still has a chance to eliminate Ajax in the next match.

While Braga was able to score an aggregate of 2 goals at least this can be said to be safe in the second leg he only needs to add 1 score or maintain defense so that Maccabi Petah has difficulty break into Braga's goal.

Btw today's match is according to my prediction Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Weawant on July 24, 2024, 06:49:54 PM

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If Manchester United faces Ajax, in my opinion, Erik Ten Hag holds the key to the club's weaknesses because he has coached that club before and Erik Ten Hag will definitely prepare an appropriate strategy to beat the Ajax club. However, this could also happen otherwise. Ajax has experienced Erik Ten Hag's coaching system and already understands Ten Hag's characteristics and perhaps this character can be read by the Ajax club so that this could make it easier for Ajax to beat Manchester United. In my opinion, this depends on how Erik Ten Hag handles his club, even so I still support Manchester United compared to Ajax.

What you have described is absolutely what the expectations should be but the challenge will be in if that will later turn out to be the actual reality with Manchester United and Ajax. From the time ten hag left Manchester United till this point, I believe some changes have been made and so he cannot be sure completely if he's still got intact all it takes to easily get ahead of the team, rather he may only try his best and use the little information he's got along side some relativity assumed looking at what applies currently with the team.

It has been a while since Eric Ten Hag left the Ajax team, two years is a long time for many changes to have been made and some players also left while some where added to the team. I don’t think he can really tell how the team’s performance is actually and will have a lot of information about the team that will make him take advantage of that and be ahead of them when they meet in the Europa League. He should focus more on building a more formidable squad that can withstand any team they face in all competitions they’re going to be participating in. Ajax is not a small team, there are several others of them in the Europa league also that they might face, so they should try and channel all of those tactical decisions into winning in all games they’ll be playing in the next season. Because in the end, that’s all that matters most, they should win and be successful in all of the games they’ll play in next season and not just winning Ajax to be their goal.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 25, 2024, 10:16:03 AM

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There's no doubting the fact that Erik ten Hag was an Ajax manager before his appointment as Manchester United manager but that doesn't mean that Ajax will easily dictate ten Hag's tactics when they face Manchester United. The Ajax team under Erik ten Hag was simply better than what we have now at the club but fir Manchester United, they have a team that's full world class players so I expect Manchester United to beat Ajax should they meet each other in the UEFA Europa League next season.

A very good point you have made, the fact that Eric Ten Hag was once the head coach of Ajax doesn't give either team a head on advantage utmostly, Ajax can not completely ascertain what the tactics Erick Ten Hag will be using neither will Ten Hag be able to completely tell how better he's going to be against Ajax, as at the time he headed the team as a coach there was a different tactics which I don't believe has been held into till this time, and for Manchester United they have a good team that would have been considered much better than that of Ajax but if they put their strategy together to be perfectly all inclusive then they can be sure of an edge over Ajax.

Basically, if we only compare the quality and level between Manchester United and Ajax, then surely we will choose Manchester United is the best compared to Ajax. Thus, when we add another factor about Manchester United advantage about Erik ten Hag having been the head coach of Ajax and Manchester United having better players. Then of course, the result is that Manchester United will still be the favorite team to win if for example they meet in the Europa League next season.

So, the factor of Erik ten Hag having been the head coach of Ajax in the past is certainly a factor also to be able to make Manchester United win in the match. But yes, in the Europa League any result can happen, because so far the Europa League has also become evidence when the non-seeded team managed to win when playing in the decisive match.

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Trabzonspor managed to get an away win with 2 goals against their opponents Ruzembrok. Such a win away from home in the 2nd qualifying round of the Europa League was important. We can say that our representative had some difficulties against his opponent. From time to time, Ruzomberok also had good opportunities to score.

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What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.

The fans have nothing to be disappointed but they have to accept the reality. Manchester United have performed poorly in the Premier League over the past few seasons, which is why they are forced to play in the Europa League next season. The teams that are in the Europa League are strong enough so the Europa League tournament is definitely challenging for Manchester United. Last season when Liverpool qualified for the Europa League we predicted the result before the start of the league Liverpool would be champions of the Europa League but Liverpool went out in the quarter finals. Hopefully it won't happen with Manchester United and Manchester United will prepare maximum and then compete in the Europa League and win the title of this tournament

Manchester United currently appears to be one of the favorite teams in the Europa League. But as you said, Liverpool, who was seen as the favorite last year, was eliminated in the quarter-finals. That's why it wouldn't be right to talk too early. We can say that the tournament in which Manchester United should compete should be the Champions League. Even if the competition in the European league brings success, it cannot fully make the fans happy. They have historically been one of the greatest teams in the world and fans still want to see that.

Who could have predicted that Atalanta would become champions last season? The two favorite teams were Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool, neither of them could become champions, and Atalanta emerged and won the cup. It's too early to make predictions. The season hasn't started yet.

When we look at the teams by their names according to their budgets. Manchester United seems to be the best at the moment in the European league in 2024/2025. I really think the fans should accept what is happening.

Actually, the Europa League should be underestimated. He played in this league for Barcelona last year and could not win. A tournament where even the world's greatest teams compete. Therefore, Manchester United winning this tournament would be a prestigious thing for them. Moreover, the final match with the team that wins the Champions League is also important. We are talking about a tournament where even my favorites lost, so I think the Europa League will always remain an exciting league. Considering that there will be no reinforcements from the Champions League to the Europa League this year, Manchester United's job is easier.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on July 18, 2024, 08:19:13 AM

What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.

The fans have nothing to be disappointed but they have to accept the reality. Manchester United have performed poorly in the Premier League over the past few seasons, which is why they are forced to play in the Europa League next season. The teams that are in the Europa League are strong enough so the Europa League tournament is definitely challenging for Manchester United. Last season when Liverpool qualified for the Europa League we predicted the result before the start of the league Liverpool would be champions of the Europa League but Liverpool went out in the quarter finals. Hopefully it won't happen with Manchester United and Manchester United will prepare maximum and then compete in the Europa League and win the title of this tournament

Manchester United currently appears to be one of the favorite teams in the Europa League. But as you said, Liverpool, who was seen as the favorite last year, was eliminated in the quarter-finals. That's why it wouldn't be right to talk too early. We can say that the tournament in which Manchester United should compete should be the Champions League. Even if the competition in the European league brings success, it cannot fully make the fans happy. They have historically been one of the greatest teams in the world and fans still want to see that.

Who could have predicted that Atalanta would become champions last season? The two favorite teams were Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool, neither of them could become champions, and Atalanta emerged and won the cup. It's too early to make predictions. The season hasn't started yet.

When we look at the teams by their names according to their budgets. Manchester United seems to be the best at the moment in the European league in 2024/2025. I really think the fans should accept what is happening.

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Quote from: Lidger on July 25, 2024, 12:59:50 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on July 18, 2024, 08:19:13 AM

What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.

The fans have nothing to be disappointed but they have to accept the reality. Manchester United have performed poorly in the Premier League over the past few seasons, which is why they are forced to play in the Europa League next season. The teams that are in the Europa League are strong enough so the Europa League tournament is definitely challenging for Manchester United. Last season when Liverpool qualified for the Europa League we predicted the result before the start of the league Liverpool would be champions of the Europa League but Liverpool went out in the quarter finals. Hopefully it won't happen with Manchester United and Manchester United will prepare maximum and then compete in the Europa League and win the title of this tournament

Manchester United currently appears to be one of the favorite teams in the Europa League. But as you said, Liverpool, who was seen as the favorite last year, was eliminated in the quarter-finals. That's why it wouldn't be right to talk too early. We can say that the tournament in which Manchester United should compete should be the Champions League. Even if the competition in the European league brings success, it cannot fully make the fans happy. They have historically been one of the greatest teams in the world and fans still want to see that.

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Quote from: mammusu on July 25, 2024, 09:49:20 AM

-snip-but 80% of the style and strategy of play applied by a coach will remain the same even if he coaches different clubs.

Some people think Manchester United has an advantage because Ten Hag was once Ajax's coach so he knows how Ajax plays. But this also provides benefits for Ajax and that's exactly what you say. Ajax still has several assistant coaches who once helped Ten Hag at Ajax so they will be able to know the playing patterns that Ten Hag usually applies. Ajax can have different game tactics because they have different coaches and Ten Hag has been away from Ajax for 2 years. On the other hand, I think it is difficult for Ten Hag to change his training patterns and that will be his weakness when the two teams meet.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on July 18, 2024, 08:19:13 AM

What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.

The fans have nothing to be disappointed but they have to accept the reality. Manchester United have performed poorly in the Premier League over the past few seasons, which is why they are forced to play in the Europa League next season. The teams that are in the Europa League are strong enough so the Europa League tournament is definitely challenging for Manchester United. Last season when Liverpool qualified for the Europa League we predicted the result before the start of the league Liverpool would be champions of the Europa League but Liverpool went out in the quarter finals. Hopefully it won't happen with Manchester United and Manchester United will prepare maximum and then compete in the Europa League and win the title of this tournament

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Quote from: klidex on July 25, 2024, 09:44:24 AM

The qualifying round for the Europa League is no less interesting than the qualifying round for the Champions League, there are several top clubs such as Ajax Amsterdam and Braga who will play matches today. They have to win match after match and continue playing in the next round to be able to qualify for the Europa League season 2024/25.

Here are some betting opportunities for the clubs that will play today's matches but analyze them first because matches like this are very difficult to predict. If you are in doubt, you can just bet on single bet Wink

Ajax must first beat Vojvodina if they want to be in the Europa League, their first match will be at home and that is an advantage for them. They have to win the first leg so that in the second leg their task will be easier because they only need a draw. Vojvodina last season was ranked 4th in the domestic league so they are in this qualifying round. I predict that Ajax will be able to win and take them to the European League.

However, I see that the qualifying rounds are not of much interest to the audience and they prefer to just wait for the results and see who will be in the European League to complete the 36 clubs that will be there. Indeed, matches like this do not attract much attention because some of the matches bring together clubs that are not as popular as those usually seen, perhaps that is one of the reasons why the European League qualifiers are less popular.

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Quote from: mammusu on July 25, 2024, 09:49:20 AM

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Ten Hag has left Ajax since 2022, meaning that Ajax has been trained for 2 seasons by a new coach, so I think there have been many changes that have occurred in Ajax current squad and playing strategy and it will be difficult for Ten Hag to understand with Ajax style of play in the future, especially if Manchester United meets Ajax later, it is very likely that Ajax will have a bigger advantage in the future because most of the players who have been trained by Ten Hag are still playing for Ajax at this tim, of course their certainly still really understand the weaknesses and strengths of Ten Hag game strategy, because I think the style and game of a team will continue to change along with changes in coaches over time, but 80% of the style and strategy of play applied by a coach will remain the same even if he coaches different clubs.

A change of coach will change the direction of the team's game, as has been the case with Ajax Amsterdam since Ten Hag left. The players who have worked with Ten Hag are very familiar with the tactics used by Ten Hag, their presence in the Ajax squad will probably be a thorn in the flesh for Ten Hag who is currently managing Manchester United. If Manchester United meets Ajax Amsterdam it will be a tough match for Ten Hag because the club he faces is very familiar with the tactics he uses, this situation is very beneficial for Ajax because they can read Ten Hag strategy and they can prepare how to overcome it.

The situation might be different if Ten Hag was able to improve Manchester United performance by bringing in quality players, the sharpness of the front line would make it difficult for Ajax to face Manchester United. Ten Hag will certainly work hard to achieve positive results because his career was saved after successfully leading Manchester United to win the FA Cup, but if he fails this season, Manchester United will not give him a second chance.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 24, 2024, 04:31:11 PM

There's no doubting the fact that Erik ten Hag was an Ajax manager before his appointment as Manchester United manager but that doesn't mean that Ajax will easily dictate ten Hag's tactics when they face Manchester United. The Ajax team under Erik ten Hag was simply better than what we have now at the club but fir Manchester United, they have a team that's full world class players so I expect Manchester United to beat Ajax should they meet each other in the UEFA Europa League next season.

A very good point you have made, the fact that Eric Ten Hag was once the head coach of Ajax doesn't give either team a head on advantage utmostly, Ajax can not completely ascertain what the tactics Erick Ten Hag will be using neither will Ten Hag be able to completely tell how better he's going to be against Ajax, as at the time he headed the team as a coach there was a different tactics which I don't believe has been held into till this time, and for Manchester United they have a good team that would have been considered much better than that of Ajax but if they put their strategy together to be perfectly all inclusive then they can be sure of an edge over Ajax.

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Quote from: mammusu on July 25, 2024, 09:49:20 AM

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If Manchester United faces Ajax, in my opinion, Erik Ten Hag holds the key to the club's weaknesses because he has coached that club before and Erik Ten Hag will definitely prepare an appropriate strategy to beat the Ajax club. However, this could also happen otherwise. Ajax has experienced Erik Ten Hag's coaching system and already understands Ten Hag's characteristics and perhaps this character can be read by the Ajax club so that this could make it easier for Ajax to beat Manchester United. In my opinion, this depends on how Erik Ten Hag handles his club, even so I still support Manchester United compared to Ajax.

What you have described is absolutely what the expectations should be but the challenge will be in if that will later turn out to be the actual reality with Manchester United and Ajax. From the time ten hag left Manchester United till this point, I believe some changes have been made and so he cannot be sure completely if he's still got intact all it takes to easily get ahead of the team, rather he may only try his best and use the little information he's got along side some relativity assumed looking at what applies currently with the team.

Ten Hag has left Ajax since 2022, meaning that Ajax has been trained for 2 seasons by a new coach, so I think there have been many changes that have occurred in Ajax current squad and playing strategy and it will be difficult for Ten Hag to understand with Ajax style of play in the future, especially if Manchester United meets Ajax later, it is very likely that Ajax will have a bigger advantage in the future because most of the players who have been trained by Ten Hag are still playing for Ajax at this tim, of course their certainly still really understand the weaknesses and strengths of Ten Hag game strategy, because I think the style and game of a team will continue to change along with changes in coaches over time, but 80% of the style and strategy of play applied by a coach will remain the same even if he coaches different clubs.

Even though Ajax knew Ten Hag very well and most likely understood how Ten Hag executed his strategy but that didn't immediately give Ajax the upper hand because when two teams fight in the field, what determines is how the two teams play and how big the difference between the two. What I know is that Man United is still stronger than Ajax, especially with the progress they currently have. So if Man United had to play against Ajax, I think it would be an easy win for Man United.

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The European League usually shows an interesting competition in the previous season, where the teams that are not favorites can actually talk more in this competition. Usually competition will be seen when the league enters the knockout phase or round of 16. Will there be interesting competition this season too? Or will the competition between them decrease because of this changed league format?
To be honest, I am looking forward to a team that can give a surprise, usually the team comes whose performance in the domestic league is not very promising, but when they are in the European League, they seem to change into a different team. Let's see what Sevilla can do in the Europa League. They are extraordinary and they are even listed as the most successful team in the European League, but if we look at their performance in La Liga, they are just an ordinary team, but they can perform well in different leagues.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 24, 2024, 06:49:54 PM

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If Manchester United faces Ajax, in my opinion, Erik Ten Hag holds the key to the club's weaknesses because he has coached that club before and Erik Ten Hag will definitely prepare an appropriate strategy to beat the Ajax club. However, this could also happen otherwise. Ajax has experienced Erik Ten Hag's coaching system and already understands Ten Hag's characteristics and perhaps this character can be read by the Ajax club so that this could make it easier for Ajax to beat Manchester United. In my opinion, this depends on how Erik Ten Hag handles his club, even so I still support Manchester United compared to Ajax.

What you have described is absolutely what the expectations should be but the challenge will be in if that will later turn out to be the actual reality with Manchester United and Ajax. From the time ten hag left Manchester United till this point, I believe some changes have been made and so he cannot be sure completely if he's still got intact all it takes to easily get ahead of the team, rather he may only try his best and use the little information he's got along side some relativity assumed looking at what applies currently with the team.

Ten Hag has left Ajax since 2022, meaning that Ajax has been trained for 2 seasons by a new coach, so I think there have been many changes that have occurred in Ajax current squad and playing strategy and it will be difficult for Ten Hag to understand with Ajax style of play in the future, especially if Manchester United meets Ajax later, it is very likely that Ajax will have a bigger advantage in the future because most of the players who have been trained by Ten Hag are still playing for Ajax at this tim, of course their certainly still really understand the weaknesses and strengths of Ten Hag game strategy, because I think the style and game of a team will continue to change along with changes in coaches over time, but 80% of the style and strategy of play applied by a coach will remain the same even if he coaches different clubs.

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The qualifying round for the Europa League is no less interesting than the qualifying round for the Champions League, there are several top clubs such as Ajax Amsterdam and Braga who will play matches today. They have to win match after match and continue playing in the next round to be able to qualify for the Europa League season 2024/25.

Here are some betting opportunities for the clubs that will play today's matches but analyze them first because matches like this are very difficult to predict. If you are in doubt, you can just bet on single bet Wink

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Quote from: pusaka on July 25, 2024, 09:14:00 AM

That should be the case because the current Mancehster United coach knows Ajax very well, so he will probably know the weak points they have. However, the problem is that Ajax is only one of many teams they will face, so they don't just focus on one team but they have to focus on many teams. In the English League alone, they have to face 17 other teams there, so they have to think about every weakness of the team they will face.
Not to mention that they will face many teams in the European League and other domestic competitions, including facing teams in the second division after the English League. A team will be very complex when talking about the opponents they will face, because it is not just against one team.

Yes, it's true that not only Ajax is a strong club that will be faced there, but there are many other strong teams. Maybe the European League is not as difficult as the Champions League. but the level of the European League is not much different from the Champions League. In fact, the tension could become stronger when several clubs from UCL participants started to arrive who failed in the UCL group stage and could only reach third place in each group in the UCL. But Man United will probably still be the favorite in the European League. they could definitely go quite far. But in the European League I prefer Italian teams. Like Roma, which always shows effective play in the European league. Even though they are no longer with Jose Mourinho, their new coach, De Rossi, has shown good results last season. So Man United also has to be prepared to face a club like Roma which cannot be underestimated even though the depth of their squad is not as good as Man United.

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Meanwhile, Manchester United will likely experience a few problems when facing Ajax later and we know that Erik Ten Hag was a former Ajax coach before moving to Old Trafford and Ajax certainly knows what they have to do to stop their former coach's squad. However, the current Ajax is quite different from what they were a year ago and things are changing so quickly that Manchester United cannot afford to underestimate them or even let their guard down.

If these two teams face each other, there will be a very strong aroma because as we know, Ten Hag is a former Ajax Amsterdam coach. However, professionalism must be maintained, Ten Hag will continue to field his best squad to achieve victory. Manchester United, which is very active in hunting for new players in the transfer market, is expected to increase in strength, several new players will be ready to make Manchester United perform better than the previous season.

Ajax may have difficulties, but anything can still happen depending on the situation that occurs within the squad and also when they are on the pitch. Nobody should underestimate anyone, every team has a chance and the biggest mistake a team can make is underestimating another team.

It is the strength of these two clubs and game patterns that will determine who will win the match because Ten Hag knows the capability of each player in Ajax so that is an advantage to him but the other coach doesn't know more about Manchester united players.

I will not be able to say who will win the match until the season starts and let's see the strength of the new Manchester united team next season that is when I will be able to predict who will win if they clash.

I think there has been some changes in terms of performance, new players and some new tactics which has been introduced since Ten hag left the Ajax team to Manchester United, I think if the teams should meet now, Ten hag may have some certain advantages over the Ajax team because some of his boys are still players of the team but it will take his Manchester United team to outperform them to get a positive result because the Ajax team is a team that is made up of Young talents you don't get tired of running facing them so Ten hag will need to prepare his boys if they must defeat his former club when they meet.

Off course it is too early to begin to deliberate on this matter since the season is yet to begin but with the level of players that Ten hag is bringing into the United team, there's no way we won't see a positive result next season.

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