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October 27, 2024, 05:24:22 PM
I am even more surprised at the team management who still maintain Ten Hag as coach when they have seen for themselves the condition of the Manchester United team which continues to slump without any effort to rise at all in every match. Before the match with Fenerbahce, I also thought that Manchester United could win at Fenerbahce's home ground, but in reality it ended in a draw and that shows that Manchester United's performance itself has not improved at all under Ten Hag's hands this season in any competition.
Recently I saw in a new that Manchester United is linked with some xabi deals but I have not confirmed it just yet but I'm hoping it's true, currently I believe he will be a good replacement for Manchester United seeing how well he did managed Barcelona throughout his stay at Barca, Manchester United have not showed signs of sacking their coach just yet so I cannot tell the explanation behind rhe recent coach scout, maybe he will be sacked by the end of the season if they eventually get a better replacement by then. It's funny how some persons away from the management still see him as a good coach but still needs time.

Xabi Alonso is currently one of the most hunted coaches for great teams of Europe and I'm sure United would love to have him but he is also linked with City in case that Guardiola will leave to pursue his dream of training a national team for 2026 world cup and beyond.

At this point its kinda clear that United needs a new coach because even in premier league they are not doing great at all and year after year we see the same poor United ...having great players but cannot make great performances.

Actually, it is a little misunderstanding here. However, no one contacted about the Leverkusen coach is Xabi Alonso but rather former Barcelona coach —Xavi Hernandez. If the opportunity arises, Barcelona legend Xavi has even declared himself interested in steering United amid his experience and success with heading Barcelona. In the meantime, a number of top sides are keeping tabs on Xabi Alonso and City could make their move if Guardiola decides to become national team manager. Xavi's Man United appointment could provide a fresh approach for the club, but do they need to find an identity in Premier League as well?

Should Xavi Hernandez become United coach he may also bring his own tactical school, going by the Barcelona style of keeping possession and quick short passes. This type of philosophy may invigorate United who in recent seasons have been inconsistent and at times lack integration between the individual performances from star men.

But Xavi will have his work cut out, particularly when it comes to putting his blueprint on a United team that is more like a mix of different styles.
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October 27, 2024, 05:13:37 PM
I think I'm really starting to like the new system Grin. Although it felt strange at first, having each team play against seven different teams has made team choices more fun and has also made it easier for surprise teams to advance to the next rounds. Even though three matches have been played, we still can't say for sure that any team will 'definitely qualify' or 'definitely be eliminated.' This makes both watching the games and betting more enjoyable.

When we look at the current standings, we get an idea of the top 8, but it will probably change completely after the next 5 matches. The last game of the group stage will be played at the end of January, and I’d like to leave a prediction (or maybe just a note) for that time already.


This system is really Intriguing and to think that it's bringing the league feel to the Europa make it more interesting unlike the former system where team just focus on gathering the points and they later get to a point where they qualify for the next round but with this system, it's different they have to maintain a position around the top of the table to secure a better chances to qualify to the next round and the dynamic of the table is another point of Interest where we get to have several teams going up and down the table.
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October 27, 2024, 05:09:39 PM
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When we look at the current standings, we get an idea of the top 8, but it will probably change completely after the next 5 matches. The last game of the group stage will be played at the end of January, and I’d like to leave a prediction (or maybe just a note) for that time already.


I think not a lot will change about the current standings. A lot of teams that we expected to do well in the UEL so far haven't activated yet. See teams like Man Utd and Porto that we expected to be at the top of the table are far behind. Iirc, Porto played in the Champions league last season but they're currently struggling in the UCL. Not much might change in the coming weeks. If anything, we might see teams like Man Utd try to salvage whatever point they can to keep them afloat even if they miss a spot in the first 8 teams to make it to knock out phase.
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October 27, 2024, 04:55:14 PM
Recently I saw in a new that Manchester United is linked with some xabi deals but I have not confirmed it just yet but I'm hoping it's true, currently I believe he will be a good replacement for Manchester United seeing how well he did managed Barcelona throughout his stay at Barca, Manchester United have not showed signs of sacking their coach just yet so I cannot tell the explanation behind rhe recent coach scout, maybe he will be sacked by the end of the season if they eventually get a better replacement by then. It's funny how some persons away from the management still see him as a good coach but still needs time.
Xabi or Xavi?  Huh
I don't see any reason Man United can sign Xabi. Xabi has a contract with Leverkusen until the end of the season. If Man United want to sack Ten Hag soon and replace him with a new coach, Xavi is a more reasonable option. Although Xavi doesn't stay a long time in Barcelona, he could build Barcelona with many talents. He left Barcelona after Barcelona has many talented players. If Man United board want to have a long term project with Man United squad, Xavi is the right coach. Xavi knows well how to build a squad from the scratch. Xavi also has a very tactical person, he knows it because he was the player who became the mastermind of Barcelona attacking. I'm actually very enthusiastic if Man United wants to replace Ten Hag with Xavi. It seems the opportunity of Ten Hag in Man United is over already.


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October 27, 2024, 10:43:37 AM
I am even more surprised at the team management who still maintain Ten Hag as coach when they have seen for themselves the condition of the Manchester United team which continues to slump without any effort to rise at all in every match. Before the match with Fenerbahce, I also thought that Manchester United could win at Fenerbahce's home ground, but in reality it ended in a draw and that shows that Manchester United's performance itself has not improved at all under Ten Hag's hands this season in any competition.
Recently I saw in a new that Manchester United is linked with some xabi deals but I have not confirmed it just yet but I'm hoping it's true, currently I believe he will be a good replacement for Manchester United seeing how well he did managed Barcelona throughout his stay at Barca, Manchester United have not showed signs of sacking their coach just yet so I cannot tell the explanation behind rhe recent coach scout, maybe he will be sacked by the end of the season if they eventually get a better replacement by then. It's funny how some persons away from the management still see him as a good coach but still needs time.

Xabi Alonso is currently one of the most hunted coaches for great teams of Europe and I'm sure United would love to have him but he is also linked with City in case that Guardiola will leave to pursue his dream of training a national team for 2026 world cup and beyond.

At this point its kinda clear that United needs a new coach because even in premier league they are not doing great at all and year after year we see the same poor United ...having great players but cannot make great performances.
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October 27, 2024, 10:29:04 AM
The match ended in a draw where Manchester United were unable to dominate the game because Fenerbahçe played very solidly and were able to match Manchester United. This is the second time Manchester United have drawn in the Europa League and previously they were also held to a draw by Porto. I think Manchester United’s condition now is not good because it looks like the form of play they are showing is not consistent. The next two games in the Europa League will be much easier and it should be an opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.
It doesn't need to be said to be easy before the match takes place because with Manchester United's current condition, it seems that even with opponents who look easy, Manchester United still often have difficulty winning in the Europa League and the evidence you have seen for yourself. I even hope Manchester United can win when they meet Fenerbahçe, but that again did not happen because the match result was a draw, So Ten Hag really has to think hard that there is still something lacking in the tactics he is using now so he has to be willing to change it before the team is really in a worse condition.
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October 27, 2024, 09:58:29 AM

Manchester United have recorded exactly the same statistics as Viktoria Plzen in the Europa League, in many ways the two teams are clearly very different, especially in terms of squad depth and the market value of the players in each team. However, in terms of fate, Manchester United and Viktoria Plzen are on the same line.
Before the Europa League started, The Red Devils were very favored, especially when Ten Hag was so active in the transfer market. But what is happening now, the ups and downs of performance continue to come to them, and Manchester United consistently swallow draws. Automatically their chances of winning the trophy are getting lower, and it seems they will have difficulty finishing in the top 8 of the standings.
Lazio, Tottenham, Anderlecht started the three matches perfectly, they look more reliable than Manchester United. We realize that Ten Hag's chances of leading his team to the Europa League final this season are still open, but in my opinion their chances are getting thinner by the day.
Maybe that wouldn't be a problem if Erik Ten Hag just came out and said this wasn't the result they were hoping for and they would train extra hard to get better results in the remainder of the games.

But, what did he do? He came out and said "we got 2 points out of porto and fenerbahce" as in that was an achievement for them, dude is not only a bad coach, but he is also diminishing the value of Manchester United, made that team into something in his brain where it would be a good thing for them to get 2 points out of porto and fenerbahce, when in reality United should be a team that is looking for only 6 points and nothing else is acceptable, they are giants of world of football, even on their this terrible period, they are still one of the most talked about teams in the world and they are still doing terrible.

I believe he is bad for the culture as well, he is literally causing the team to be seen as a small team at this point, he is trying to make sure everyone has low expectations from them.

ETH has ruined the standards and he still gets backed, It's a big fat disgrace.
And I can't believe we're in a position where Ten Hag is backed as a manager, we accept stupid standards like draws and losses in the name of 'give him time'.
He should leave,  He’s simply incompetent and not good enough to handle the United.
Manchester United have good players, they need someone who knows how to create a style of play.
Style of play and tactics seriously impact how the team plays.
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October 27, 2024, 04:38:05 AM

Manchester United have recorded exactly the same statistics as Viktoria Plzen in the Europa League, in many ways the two teams are clearly very different, especially in terms of squad depth and the market value of the players in each team. However, in terms of fate, Manchester United and Viktoria Plzen are on the same line.
Before the Europa League started, The Red Devils were very favored, especially when Ten Hag was so active in the transfer market. But what is happening now, the ups and downs of performance continue to come to them, and Manchester United consistently swallow draws. Automatically their chances of winning the trophy are getting lower, and it seems they will have difficulty finishing in the top 8 of the standings.
Lazio, Tottenham, Anderlecht started the three matches perfectly, they look more reliable than Manchester United. We realize that Ten Hag's chances of leading his team to the Europa League final this season are still open, but in my opinion their chances are getting thinner by the day.
Maybe that wouldn't be a problem if Erik Ten Hag just came out and said this wasn't the result they were hoping for and they would train extra hard to get better results in the remainder of the games.

But, what did he do? He came out and said "we got 2 points out of porto and fenerbahce" as in that was an achievement for them, dude is not only a bad coach, but he is also diminishing the value of Manchester United, made that team into something in his brain where it would be a good thing for them to get 2 points out of porto and fenerbahce, when in reality United should be a team that is looking for only 6 points and nothing else is acceptable, they are giants of world of football, even on their this terrible period, they are still one of the most talked about teams in the world and they are still doing terrible.

I believe he is bad for the culture as well, he is literally causing the team to be seen as a small team at this point, he is trying to make sure everyone has low expectations from them.
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October 27, 2024, 03:08:05 AM
I think I'm really starting to like the new system Grin. Although it felt strange at first, having each team play against seven different teams has made team choices more fun and has also made it easier for surprise teams to advance to the next rounds. Even though three matches have been played, we still can't say for sure that any team will 'definitely qualify' or 'definitely be eliminated.' This makes both watching the games and betting more enjoyable.

When we look at the current standings, we get an idea of the top 8, but it will probably change completely after the next 5 matches. The last game of the group stage will be played at the end of January, and I’d like to leave a prediction (or maybe just a note) for that time already.



When we take a look at the current standings, I think a few of these teams are only here temporarily. Lazio, Tottenham, Ajax, and Galatasaray are teams that are here now and that I believe will still be here when the group stage ends. Outside of this list;



Actually, I don't have a thought like 'this team will probably finish in the top 8' about any team. But that’s what makes this system great. I remember making a ranking prediction for each group in the old system, and two of my group predictions ended up exactly as I guessed. Right now, I think making predictions would require a very deep analysis. Do you have a top 8? Huh
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October 27, 2024, 01:16:21 AM
I expected that Fenerbahçe football team will play well in this match and they will easily win this match but that was not possible and we saw tough match for both teams . If we will compare the the stats of both teams then we can't say that any team was favorite for that match.  The pass accuracy of Fenerbahçe team was 85 percent but that of Man united was 84 percent. The passes of Fenerbahçe team were 485 and the passes of Manchester United team were 459 . Mean to say the difference was very small and that why we didn't see any result of that match.The result of that match was draw and we should give credit to players of Manchester United to give tough time in this match.
The match ended in a draw where Manchester United were unable to dominate the game because Fenerbahçe played very solidly and were able to match Manchester United. This is the second time Manchester United have drawn in the Europa League and previously they were also held to a draw by Porto. I think Manchester United’s condition now is not good because it looks like the form of play they are showing is not consistent. The next two games in the Europa League will be much easier and it should be an opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.
This is precisely the 3rd time they have drawn in the Europa League this season from the 3 matches they have played, it is a very unsatisfactory record achieved by Manchester United. Honestly, I am confused to say whether in this match Manchester United played well so they could hold Fenerbahce to a draw, or Fenerbahce played well so they were able to hold Manchester United to a draw. Because from the beginning, in fact, in the match there were big questions about Manchester United's performance, even though they have a bigger name than Fenerbahce, but in terms of their game they were not that good.
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October 26, 2024, 11:17:06 PM
I expected that Fenerbahçe football team will play well in this match and they will easily win this match but that was not possible and we saw tough match for both teams . If we will compare the the stats of both teams then we can't say that any team was favorite for that match.  The pass accuracy of Fenerbahçe team was 85 percent but that of Man united was 84 percent. The passes of Fenerbahçe team were 485 and the passes of Manchester United team were 459 . Mean to say the difference was very small and that why we didn't see any result of that match.The result of that match was draw and we should give credit to players of Manchester United to give tough time in this match.
The match ended in a draw where Manchester United were unable to dominate the game because Fenerbahçe played very solidly and were able to match Manchester United. This is the second time Manchester United have drawn in the Europa League and previously they were also held to a draw by Porto. I think Manchester United’s condition now is not good because it looks like the form of play they are showing is not consistent. The next two games in the Europa League will be much easier and it should be an opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.
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October 26, 2024, 05:56:36 PM
I am even more surprised at the team management who still maintain Ten Hag as coach when they have seen for themselves the condition of the Manchester United team which continues to slump without any effort to rise at all in every match. Before the match with Fenerbahce, I also thought that Manchester United could win at Fenerbahce's home ground, but in reality it ended in a draw and that shows that Manchester United's performance itself has not improved at all under Ten Hag's hands this season in any competition.
Recently I saw in a new that Manchester United is linked with some xabi deals but I have not confirmed it just yet but I'm hoping it's true, currently I believe he will be a good replacement for Manchester United seeing how well he did managed Barcelona throughout his stay at Barca, Manchester United have not showed signs of sacking their coach just yet so I cannot tell the explanation behind rhe recent coach scout, maybe he will be sacked by the end of the season if they eventually get a better replacement by then. It's funny how some persons away from the management still see him as a good coach but still needs time.
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October 26, 2024, 03:44:53 PM
Results are bad and Manchester United owner probably wait for terrible results to sack Ten Hag.
Are they not getting a terrible result yet? They have played three matches in Europa League, and haven’t been able to win any match, that’s embarrassing. Manchester United performances have been so poor since last season, they have been playing so poorly in both the Premier League and Europa League. From the way Manchester United are playing currently, I think Ten Hag doesn’t even know how to solve the current Manchester United problem, they just have to let him go and get a coach that can fix Manchester United. Ten Hag was given money to sign some players, which he did, but there is no changes in Manchester United’s performance,  he prefers to even make use of the players that have been in the club since than the players that he just signed recently.
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October 26, 2024, 03:06:18 PM


Manchester United management has invested a lot of money on TEn Hag. And sacking Ten Hag would cost United financially. Perhaps this is why the Manchester United management has not yet decided to sack Ten Hag. But it is certain that Manchester United's performance will not improve if Ten Hag is not sacked.


Having a coach like Erik Ten Hag is very Frustrating. We don't even know when our next win will be.
He tried but United is just too big for him to be honest.
And no one in any job would still be employed if they made things worse in three years. The situation is quite tense, It raises questions about the club's direction. I hope the Board can find a resolution supporting the team's success.
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October 26, 2024, 02:45:25 PM
Well, they can always compete, but that's just to compete, while to become champions in reality they can't do it. There is even a narrative where Harry Kane became a curse when he went to the Bundesliga and there he failed to bring his club to become champions, even though previously his club was the defending champion for more than a decade. Tottenham can't continue like this, because they are actually very capable of winning the title. We'll see this season whether they can become champions or not, because looking at what they are showing now, their chances should be even greater. Or maybe the conversation about them will be even longer if they fail again this season.
Come on guys, let's not blame a particular player but let's look deeper into what is happening.
This is certainly not a curse but logically if it was a curse, he would not be a scoring machine. And the fact is he continues to perform perfectly giving a good contribution to the tik.
The problem at the moment is not about Harry Kane but Munich defense is very bad which is known by the opponent and will definitely concede.
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October 26, 2024, 02:14:04 PM
Talking about Tottenham always feels interesting. because we all know that this team always displays a performance that is no less strong than other strong teams from the Premier League every season. But strangely, this team always fails to win the title in any competition. Either when Harry Kane was around or after Harry Kane was gone. And maybe this season Tottenham's opportunity to try to win the European League title is wide open. As long as Tottenham continues to be consistent with their current abilities.

And in the next match, Tottenham will face Galatasaray, which is currently strengthened by one of the talented young strikers on loan from Napoli, namely Osimhen. I think it will be a pretty hot fight and one we shouldn't miss. Unfortunately the match will be held in two weeks and I can't wait to see it.
Well, they can always compete, but that's just to compete, while to become champions in reality they can't do it. There is even a narrative where Harry Kane became a curse when he went to the Bundesliga and there he failed to bring his club to become champions, even though previously his club was the defending champion for more than a decade. Tottenham can't continue like this, because they are actually very capable of winning the title. We'll see this season whether they can become champions or not, because looking at what they are showing now, their chances should be even greater. Or maybe the conversation about them will be even longer if they fail again this season.
I would say Kane is not there anymore, so they may have a chance actually lol. They are going three out of three so far, and while I agree, they will be one of the top teams in the group stages and go ahead and could still lose when its playoff structure or knockout structure whatever that bracket is called.

I also think they could also win, there is no reason for them to lose this season, they are better than all the other teams and they have a chance. Don't get me wrong, I am not here claiming they are going to win, of course they could lose, there is absolutely no way of knowing what's going to happen, but I wouldn't see it %100 either side, anything could happen and that is what we should be guessing for them.

All the other teams have smaller chance of winning, they may end up losing and I can see why that would happen, but that doesn't mean we are going to end up with anything bad at all. We should be considering how this could be a different situation, we should be considering this as what could happen. I believe we are going to end up with Tottenham to be a leading candidate for a long time. What I need to see is if there are any other teams that looks unusually good.
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October 26, 2024, 01:06:07 PM
Manchester United is maintaining its position thanks to some luck and some performance. Other than that they would be overthrown to the other side of the table in English Premier League and from all competitions including UEFA Europa League.
They have a respectable manager and good players and an amount of failure that worth to be studied in prestigious football academies!
Fenerbahce was able to match Manchester United's game so that they managed to create an unbeaten chance in the match. Manchester United themselves were not in their best form because they lost slightly regarding ball possession. The winning percentage should have been much greater for Manchester United compared to Fenerbahce but they failed to take advantage of the best opportunities because Fenerbahce played more neatly and solidly.

Although Manchester United did not get a defeat, in my opinion they threw away too many points in matches that they should have won and that really needs to be fixed by Erik Ten Hak.
I expected that Fenerbahçe football team will play well in this match and they will easily win this match but that was not possible and we saw tough match for both teams . If we will compare the the stats of both teams then we can't say that any team was favorite for that match.  The pass accuracy of Fenerbahçe team was 85 percent but that of Man united was 84 percent. The passes of Fenerbahçe team were 485 and the passes of Manchester United team were 459 . Mean to say the difference was very small and that why we didn't see any result of that match.The result of that match was draw and we should give credit to players of Manchester United to give tough time in this match.
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October 26, 2024, 11:34:44 AM
Tottenham is one of 3 clubs that managed to achieve a perfect victory in the European League, making them in second place only losing in goal productivity to the Serie A club, Lazio. However, they should not be satisfied with what they have achieved in 3 matches, because there are still 5 remaining matches that they must win too. Their chances of becoming champions in the European League this season are wide open, but the question is will they be able to become champions? Because they are a club that has repeatedly failed, even though in terms of opportunities they are one of those with great opportunities. Now they must improve their mentality to win a title.
Talking about Tottenham always feels interesting. because we all know that this team always displays a performance that is no less strong than other strong teams from the Premier League every season. But strangely, this team always fails to win the title in any competition. Either when Harry Kane was around or after Harry Kane was gone. And maybe this season Tottenham's opportunity to try to win the European League title is wide open. As long as Tottenham continues to be consistent with their current abilities.

And in the next match, Tottenham will face Galatasaray, which is currently strengthened by one of the talented young strikers on loan from Napoli, namely Osimhen. I think it will be a pretty hot fight and one we shouldn't miss. Unfortunately the match will be held in two weeks and I can't wait to see it.
Well, they can always compete, but that's just to compete, while to become champions in reality they can't do it. There is even a narrative where Harry Kane became a curse when he went to the Bundesliga and there he failed to bring his club to become champions, even though previously his club was the defending champion for more than a decade. Tottenham can't continue like this, because they are actually very capable of winning the title. We'll see this season whether they can become champions or not, because looking at what they are showing now, their chances should be even greater. Or maybe the conversation about them will be even longer if they fail again this season.
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October 26, 2024, 11:13:29 AM
Jose Mourinho knows Manchester United and may come up with some strategies that might frustrate the English side when they finally clash.

And this is what I find even more interesting, because I know that at the time when Mou was in La Liga as Madrid coach he was in constant conflict with Pep Guardiola, even in public one day they offended each other by saying vulgar jokes, they both knew each other very well, but I think that Mou is much more specific in studying his rival and finding their weaknesses, so I wouldn't trust him too much if it were MU, plus as the competition goes on things get more difficult, that's why I think that with a coach like Mou I would have to play with extreme care.
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October 26, 2024, 11:09:47 AM

Manchester United have recorded exactly the same statistics as Viktoria Plzen in the Europa League, in many ways the two teams are clearly very different, especially in terms of squad depth and the market value of the players in each team. However, in terms of fate, Manchester United and Viktoria Plzen are on the same line.
Before the Europa League started, The Red Devils were very favored, especially when Ten Hag was so active in the transfer market. But what is happening now, the ups and downs of performance continue to come to them, and Manchester United consistently swallow draws. Automatically their chances of winning the trophy are getting lower, and it seems they will have difficulty finishing in the top 8 of the standings.
Lazio, Tottenham, Anderlecht started the three matches perfectly, they look more reliable than Manchester United. We realize that Ten Hag's chances of leading his team to the Europa League final this season are still open, but in my opinion their chances are getting thinner by the day.
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