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Quote from: Altryist on January 24, 2025, 08:12:25 AM

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Man United have indeed had an inconsistent performance so far, but if we talk about opportunities and hopes, it would be better if Amorim focused more on the Europa League because that is the only way for them to get to the Champions League next season. So it is reasonable if Man United can win the match against Rangers because they have the reason and motivation to win the match. Now they just need to win the final match against FCSB because that way Man United will be in the top 8 and will automatically qualify for the round of 16.

You have to be objective, Manchester United can't win the Europa League this season, their defense is too weak for that. And what does it mean to focus on the Europa League if their position in the Premier League is already worse than you could imagine, if Amorim continues to lose games in the Premier League then he will most likely be sacked, because Manchester United have never been so low in the table, even with ten Hag everything was better.

That is the most realistic target that Man United could possibly achieve this season, as their chances in the Premier League are certainly very tough, as are the FA Cup (Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Nottingham Forest are much harder to beat than the teams in the Europa League). Their defense line is not good yet, but I think it is still better than last season, especially if Amorim is willing to give Altay Bayindir more opportunities. The biggest problem now is not the defense line, but their two strikers who are having difficulty scoring goals. If Amorim can find a solution in this January transfer window (getting a clinical striker even if he has to sell Hojlund and Zirkzee at the same time), I think winning the Europa League is a reasonable target.

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Contrary to the expectations of many, Manchester United went ahead to win this highly anticipated game by beating the Scottish side by 2-1 after captain Bruno Fernandez struck late in the almost 90 minutes to give Manchester United the victory in what was almost going to be a draw for both sides. Indeed it was a wonderful result for the team though not the best of performances but it was good enough to earn Manchester United the required points to maintain their position at the table and also proppell them into next round. I believe this win will also motivate the squad to also replicate same thing in the EPL this weekend as they face Fulham at the craven cottage in London this Sunday.

Man United have indeed had an inconsistent performance so far, but if we talk about opportunities and hopes, it would be better if Amorim focused more on the Europa League because that is the only way for them to get to the Champions League next season. So it is reasonable if Man United can win the match against Rangers because they have the reason and motivation to win the match. Now they just need to win the final match against FCSB because that way Man United will be in the top 8 and will automatically qualify for the round of 16.

In this match, most of the time, Manchester United players moved towards attack, where each player performed well. But as a strong team, Manchester United should have performed better, because Manchester United fans were sure that they would win this match, so they bet on Manchester United.
Rangers team performed well for a long time and made 10 attacks in the whole match, and the opposing team Manchester United made 16 attacks. In this case, Manchester United team achieved success in the last time, Fernandez played the most role in helping the team win by scoring the goal with his magic foot.

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Manchester United is in poor form, as evidenced by their performance in the two league games they have played. This is the Europa League, and any club is striving to advance to the next round. Manchester United are likely to be the favorites to win this game because they are playing at Old Trafford, giving them an advantage over the Rangers and having fans on the pitch. Rangers are in better shape in the league, sitting second in the league table and winning two games in a row, therefore I believe Manchester United will need to perform really well if they want to win three points at home tonight. With how Rangers gathered the information, you will see that they are really prepare for Manchester United. and I see they came to draw with this time of information I see 3-5-2 they are closing the midfield. He will be difficult for Manchester United to break the line. Let see how Amorim will do is best tonight because Manchester United are not really yet back to there best form. Am just waiting the game to start because that is the tough game today. They need to win tonight to know that they will automatically qualify even if they lost there next game.

Amorim managed to make Manchester United get three important points amidst many people who doubted them because of their unstable performance.

When Dessers scored in the 88th minute, the uncertain atmosphere that tended to draw was very strong but paid off when Lisandro Martinez became the assist provider for Bruno's goal in the 90+2 minute.
Manchester United is perfect in the Europa League because they have not recorded a single defeat. Later in the last match we do not know whether Manchester United will accept defeat.

Manchester United will not be defeated in their last match before the round of 16, because their opponent is not as strong as they are. Their victory against Rangers is not something surprising to me, because they played better than Rangers. No matter how unstable United performance is in EPL, when they come to Europa, they will always triumph over their opponenets, because their opponents are not used to game pattern.

You are actually right but the truth is every league has their own pattern and the clubs also have their way and method of play just as Manchester united has their own way and pattern of play and to me I think English league is more stronger than Scottish league that's why Manchester united can not be compared with them but yesterday, Manchester united winning was a narrow escape for them because the game almost end draw if not for the long cross that Bruno Fernandes converted to goal at the added time and they deserve the win because they played more than Rangers and the Rangers goal was a foul ball because the guy pushed Henry Maguire and lastly I think Manchester united should improve.

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Quote from: sokani on January 24, 2025, 10:13:02 AM

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You have to be objective, Manchester United can't win the Europa League this season, their defense is too weak for that. And what does it mean to focus on the Europa League if their position in the Premier League is already worse than you could imagine, if Amorim continues to lose games in the Premier League then he will most likely be sacked, because Manchester United have never been so low in the table, even with ten Hag everything was better.

Amorim is not getting stacked. The management made it clear to him that he won't be judged by the performance of the team this season. It's actually next season when he gets his players that's when the book will be opened for him. About the Europa league, I don't want to reach any conclusion yet. I believe the true test of their strength will be put to test in the knockout stages when they'll be up against stronger teams and that's when we'd know if they can go all the way to the final.

It is actually a fair policy where the management gives Amorim a free chance and does not ask him to give very satisfying results so quickly. However, it does not mean that Amorim does not have to do anything if he wants to be maintained, at least he can give something positive for the development of Manchester United's game.
I am also sure that the management is not that careless not to target anything in his first season, it's just that maybe he is given a little more opportunity if this season he fails to achieve what is expected.
I think that is more reasonable, yes, although actually no one does not want their team to rise very quickly.

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Fenerbahçe - Lyon match ended in a 0-0 draw last night.
Fenerbahçe did not have many goal opportunities but were generally dominant in the game.
Fenerbahçe's play still does not please me.

Lyon was not very good, there has been a decline in Lyon lately.

Jose Mourinho is unarguably my favorite football manager but my undying love for the Portuguese manager will not hinder me from criticizing him whenever I think he should be criticized. When Fenerbahce appointment him as the club manager last year summer, I was rooting for him to go to Turkey and improve the performance of the club as well as make them more competitive than they've been in recent years but to my surprise, he's failed to live up to expectations. 9 points in 7 UEFA Europa League games this season I think is a very disappointing performance for Fenerbahce but what's even more disappointing if you ask me is how they dominated their game against Lyon last night but still failed to find the back of the net.

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Quote from: ndutndut on January 24, 2025, 08:42:48 AM

Man United does not seem to be a problem with the coach anymore, but there are some players who need to be overhauled, there are players who do not play according to the coach's instructions, so that Man United's mentality becomes unstable or cannot play consistently. Just look after making rotations, especially the goalkeeper is different, there is no Onana and no Maguire in the starting line up, so the absence of Onana and defender Maguire is an important point in Amorim's victory.

Man United's victory cannot be separated from Bayındır's slick performance. He is always in the right position when the opponent attacks. In addition, he has a body posture and playing style like de gea. Sometimes I also think, Onana as a substitute is the key to Man United's victory. Yes. Salute to Man United who are undefeated in the European league.

The appointment of the goalkeeper, I think it's true. Bayindir performed well in this fight and it was not wrong if Amorim needs to give more confidence to Bayindir than continuously making Onana in all competitions as did by the coach before Amorim.
If I pay attention, Bayindir has been played several times by Amorim, while while still not Amorim, Bayindir often spends time as a player in the bench.

I think the player overhaul of the front lines must be searched for a new one. The front players are now like Zirczee not functioning like the players needed because the final settlement as an attacker does not exist.
Onana, Maguire, Casemiro needs to be considered for sale.

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I thought Porto would win at home because I saw the odds were in Porto's favor but they lost and finally their position had to leave the play-off zone, even though initially Porto was one of my favorite clubs in the UEL but if they don't qualify for the last 16 it's really a shame because Porto is also included in the ranks of the top clubs. It's a shame my bet was destroyed by Porto's defeat for the other choices, my predictions are correct, even Lazio, who have big odds, are not disappointing, they are still maintaining their winning record until now.

Yes, a very strange result from Porto. Now they are in 25th place and are in danger of not making it to the playoffs. In the next final round they play away against Maccabi and it will be a tough game. Personally, it is strange for me that the bookmakers rate Porto as a clear favorite:

6.80 - 4.70 - 1.46

I definitely won't take any risks in this game.

Why're you still surprising bookies favored Porto instead of Maccabi? Porto has better stats as reflected in the picture above, and i knew you might be concerning about an away game in the last round.

I think away game should not be a problem for Porto consider they're a bit better in term of squad quality. Honestly, i also retain myself to take a bet in this game.

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Quote from: MK-74 on January 24, 2025, 09:02:45 AM

Fenerbahçe - Lyon match ended in a 0-0 draw last night.
Fenerbahçe did not have many goal opportunities but were generally dominant in the game.
Fenerbahçe's play still does not please me.

Lyon was not very good, there has been a decline in Lyon lately.

Both teams seem to be underperforming. Fenerbahçe should be able to win this match and will be quite calm about their position in the standings. However, a result of one point will not give them comfort when they face Midtjylland in the remaining match.
while Lyon, 1 point obtained may be quite safe with their position in the current standings which is quite safe. especially with 1 remaining match against Ludogorets in the remaining match. Lyon may be quite confident to win in the last match.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 24, 2025, 06:33:23 AM

Manchester United will not be defeated in their last match before the round of 16, because their opponent is not as strong as they are. Their victory against Rangers is not something surprising to me, because they played better than Rangers. No matter how unstable United performance is in EPL, when they come to Europa, they will always triumph over their opponenets, because their opponents are not used to game pattern.

It should be, but we don't know the situation on the field later when United plays their last match in this qualifying round. In the match against Rangers, the match seemed quite tough, fortunately Manchester United was able to get full points even though the final goal was scored in the 90th minute+. Victory over Rangers should be a plus point to finish their last match, especially since the team that was Manchester United's opponent in the last phase, fell against Rangers with a landslide score. Well, they almost have a ticket to the next round safely, now Amorim must focus on returning to the Premier League. BTW, if Manchester United is indeed targeting something in the Europa League competition, Amorim should determine the composition of his players who really understand his ideas without having to dismantle positions, rotate and so on. The point is, for now, how they have to win every match first. The rest, a major evaluation will be carried out next summer.

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Quote from: Altryist on January 24, 2025, 08:12:25 AM

You have to be objective, Manchester United can't win the Europa League this season, their defense is too weak for that. And what does it mean to focus on the Europa League if their position in the Premier League is already worse than you could imagine, if Amorim continues to lose games in the Premier League then he will most likely be sacked, because Manchester United have never been so low in the table, even with ten Hag everything was better.

Amorim is not getting stacked. The management made it clear to him that he won't be judged by the performance of the team this season. It's actually next season when he gets his players that's when the book will be opened for him. About the Europa league, I don't want to reach any conclusion yet. I believe the true test of their strength will be put to test in the knockout stages when they'll be up against stronger teams and that's when we'd know if they can go all the way to the final.

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Fenerbahçe - Lyon match ended in a 0-0 draw last night.
Fenerbahçe did not have many goal opportunities but were generally dominant in the game.
Fenerbahçe's play still does not please me.

Lyon was not very good, there has been a decline in Lyon lately.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 24, 2025, 06:14:04 AM

Amorim managed to make Manchester United get three important points amidst many people who doubted them because of their unstable performance.

When Dessers scored in the 88th minute, the uncertain atmosphere that tended to draw was very strong but paid off when Lisandro Martinez became the assist provider for Bruno's goal in the 90+2 minute.
Manchester United is perfect in the Europa League because they have not recorded a single defeat. Later in the last match we do not know whether Manchester United will accept defeat.

Man United does not seem to be a problem with the coach anymore, but there are some players who need to be overhauled, there are players who do not play according to the coach's instructions, so that Man United's mentality becomes unstable or cannot play consistently. Just look after making rotations, especially the goalkeeper is different, there is no Onana and no Maguire in the starting line up, so the absence of Onana and defender Maguire is an important point in Amorim's victory.

Amorim must immediately promote several young players to the senior squad, the current team is no longer able to do what Amorim wants when playing in the domestic league, this is very different when playing in the European league. I am sure Amorim can see that that is the only way out to rise immediately, because Teamwork is the key to victory.

Man United's victory cannot be separated from Bayındır's slick performance. He is always in the right position when the opponent attacks. In addition, he has a body posture and playing style like de gea. Sometimes I also think, Onana as a substitute is the key to Man United's victory. Yes. Salute to Man United who are undefeated in the European league.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 23, 2025, 10:57:37 PM

I thought Porto would win at home because I saw the odds were in Porto's favor but they lost and finally their position had to leave the play-off zone, even though initially Porto was one of my favorite clubs in the UEL but if they don't qualify for the last 16 it's really a shame because Porto is also included in the ranks of the top clubs. It's a shame my bet was destroyed by Porto's defeat for the other choices, my predictions are correct, even Lazio, who have big odds, are not disappointing, they are still maintaining their winning record until now.

Yes, a very strange result from Porto. Now they are in 25th place and are in danger of not making it to the playoffs. In the next final round they play away against Maccabi and it will be a tough game. Personally, it is strange for me that the bookmakers rate Porto as a clear favorite:

6.80 - 4.70 - 1.46

I definitely won't take any risks in this game.

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Quote from: punk.zink on January 24, 2025, 07:50:19 AM

Man United have indeed had an inconsistent performance so far, but if we talk about opportunities and hopes, it would be better if Amorim focused more on the Europa League because that is the only way for them to get to the Champions League next season. So it is reasonable if Man United can win the match against Rangers because they have the reason and motivation to win the match. Now they just need to win the final match against FCSB because that way Man United will be in the top 8 and will automatically qualify for the round of 16.

You have to be objective, Manchester United can't win the Europa League this season, their defense is too weak for that. And what does it mean to focus on the Europa League if their position in the Premier League is already worse than you could imagine, if Amorim continues to lose games in the Premier League then he will most likely be sacked, because Manchester United have never been so low in the table, even with ten Hag everything was better.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on January 24, 2025, 07:36:07 AM

Contrary to the expectations of many, Manchester United went ahead to win this highly anticipated game by beating the Scottish side by 2-1 after captain Bruno Fernandez struck late in the almost 90 minutes to give Manchester United the victory in what was almost going to be a draw for both sides. Indeed it was a wonderful result for the team though not the best of performances but it was good enough to earn Manchester United the required points to maintain their position at the table and also proppell them into next round. I believe this win will also motivate the squad to also replicate same thing in the EPL this weekend as they face Fulham at the craven cottage in London this Sunday.

Man United have indeed had an inconsistent performance so far, but if we talk about opportunities and hopes, it would be better if Amorim focused more on the Europa League because that is the only way for them to get to the Champions League next season. So it is reasonable if Man United can win the match against Rangers because they have the reason and motivation to win the match. Now they just need to win the final match against FCSB because that way Man United will be in the top 8 and will automatically qualify for the round of 16.

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Although Manchester United and Rangers currently only have a gap of 1 point, but I personally still strongly believe Manchester United will win in this match. Because as far as my observation, Manchester United under Amorim has good results for matches outside the Premier League. What's more, Manchester United will also play at home, so it's no wonder Manchester United are the projected team to win, and the odds of Manchester United and Rangers are very different. But when it comes to predicting the score for this match, I personally am not entirely confident because I still think Rangers are capable of scoring goals in this match but still, I am more confident Manchester United will win.

Although Manchester United has the advantage because the match is played at Manchester United's stadium, I am not completely calm if Manchester United can win to ensure themselves in the ranking that allows them to qualify automatically.
Manchester United's position has now been shifted by Bodø/Glimt because Bodø is in a winning situation over its opponent.
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Of course I am not completely calm because Manchester United's performance is still unstable. We hope that Amorim can make Manchester United do a lot in the Europa League.

Manchester United is in poor form, as evidenced by their performance in the two league games they have played. This is the Europa League, and any club is striving to advance to the next round. Manchester United are kslikely to be the favorites to win this game because they are playing at I Old Trafford, giving them an advantage over the Rangers and havinfans Nd on the pitch. Rangers are in better shape in the league, sitting second in the league table and winning two games in a row, therefore I believe Manchester United will need to perform really well if they want to win three points at home tonight. With how Rangers gathered the information, you will see that they are really prepare for Manchester United. and I see they came to draw with this time of information I see 3-5-2 they are closing the midfield. He will be difficult for Manchester United to break the line. Let see how Amorim will do is best tonight because Manchester United are not really yet back to there best form. Am just waiting the game to start because that is the tough game today. They need to win tonight to know that they will automatically qualify even if they lost there next game.

Contrary to the expectations of many, Manchester United went ahead to win this highly anticipated game by beating the Scottish side by 2-1 after captain Bruno Fernandez struck late in the almost 90 minutes to give Manchester United the victory in what was almost going to be a draw for both sides. Indeed it was a wonderful result for the team though not the best of performances but it was good enough to earn Manchester United the required points to maintain their position at the table and also proppell them into next round. I believe this win will also motivate the squad to also replicate same thing in the EPL this weekend as they face Fulham at the craven cottage in London this Sunday.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 24, 2025, 06:33:23 AM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 24, 2025, 06:14:04 AM

Amorim managed to make Manchester United get three important points amidst many people who doubted them because of their unstable performance.

When Dessers scored in the 88th minute, the uncertain atmosphere that tended to draw was very strong but paid off when Lisandro Martinez became the assist provider for Bruno's goal in the 90+2 minute.
Manchester United is perfect in the Europa League because they have not recorded a single defeat. Later in the last match we do not know whether Manchester United will accept defeat.

Manchester United will not be defeated in their last match before the round of 16, because their opponent is not as strong as they are. Their victory against Rangers is not something surprising to me, because they played better than Rangers. No matter how unstable United performance is in EPL, when they come to Europa, they will always triumph over their opponenets, because their opponents are not used to game pattern.

FCSB is a Romanian team that cannot be underestimated in the Europa League. In the match in round 7 yesterday, FCSB also managed to win at Qarabag FK's home.
FCSB also managed to sit in the last position on the green line which indicates automatic qualification. Only 1 point difference with Galasataray, so in the last match will be a match that will be used to be able to automatically qualify in front of their own public.

I do not doubt Manchester United by not underestimating FCSB even though FCSB is not a team that we often follow so we do not know its strength for sure.

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just one week left.

thinking about the possibilities of teams making it to the top 8, playing in the playoffs, or getting eliminated is exhausting. i just want this week to pass quickly so we can finally focus on the outcomes instead of probabilities.

if your team is hovering around 24th or 8th place, these scenarios have probably been weighing on your mind too.

all i want is for galatasaray to beat ajax. if we hadn’t drawn against dynamo kyiv and actually managed to beat them, even a draw with ajax would’ve been enough. but damn it, the same thing that always happens happened again.

A details of probability to end in top 8 and top 24 of clubs in Europa League. Anderlecht, Olympiacos, Frankfurt played well and have high probabilities to finish in top 8. Some big clubs are fighting to complete group phase in top 24 and many of them nearly don't have chance to finish in top 8.

This means there are chances for unwated matches between big clubs in a next phase, after playoff matches. Manchester United despite of disappointed performances in Premier League, are playing well in UEFA Europa League this season and they almost have a position in top 8, with high probability as you can see below.

FCSB is top 8 for sure and it will remain there even after the game with United so I don't know how accurate those % are. Last night FCSB played another majestic game against Qarabag and they were able to comeback twice after being down 1-0 and then 2-1 just to win by 3-2 in the end which is insane because it's been way to long since a Romanian team had such a great performance in Europe.

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Many people too focus with Manchester United vs Rangers, but there's more interesting results with the match Tottenham vs Hoffenheim.

Hoffenheim is dominating on the pitch and they have better stats, shots 22x times while Tottenham only shots 8x times. But, Tottenham can still manage to win with scores 3-2 favor on them.

If they're struggle to beat Hoffenheim, it would be hard if they match equal or stronger teams.

Tottenham already have 14 players injured, including the main goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario and the main striker Dominic Solanke, and these are very important players for Tottenham, although Austin played very well yesterday and saved Tottenham from a goal a couple of times.

Now Tottenham are essentially saved by Maddison, Pedro Porro, Heung-Min Son and Kuluszewski who both score and get results.
Yesterday Tottenham got lucky when Maddison and Heung-Min Son scored quick goals and that basically determined the outcome of the game, as well as the good play of Brandon Austin helped Tottenham to beat Hoffenheim in the end.

At times i feel sorry for Arsenal with the number of injured players they have right now and then i remember Tottenham is even suffering worst than Arsenal. Almost the first-team players except Son are injured with some backup players and thas not good for a team. If 14 players is injured whats then left in the team. The coach mostimes is afraid to make some subtitue because he will keep playing the players in their wrong position.

Only these four players you mentioned can be hoped on to save Tottenham across all competition. Son yesterday made a lot of impact which made Hoffenham defenders feel some pressure. Although the normal Tottenham i know will not let Hoffenham to score them 2 goals. But that's all in the past now.

This is the second year Tottenham have such a situation with player injuries, maybe Tottenham need to change their fitness coach because so many injuries several seasons in a row is suspiciously high.

Heung-Min Son is now the main leader of the team after Kane's departure, but Maddison, Pedro Porro and Kuluszewski have also started to score actively now and in general they are good creative players who can create chances for their teammates and score themselves.
That's why it's sometimes strange to see Postetoglu not releasing Maddison and trying to play with 5 defenders and after that Tottenham still concede and stop scoring and naturally lose.
Unfortunately defense is not the strongest part of Tottenham's game and to a large extent Tottenham wins when playing attacking soccer scoring a lot of goals, and Tottenham has very few matches without conceding a goal during the season.

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Quote from: blomen on January 24, 2025, 06:34:49 AM

just one week left.

thinking about the possibilities of teams making it to the top 8, playing in the playoffs, or getting eliminated is exhausting. i just want this week to pass quickly so we can finally focus on the outcomes instead of probabilities.

if your team is hovering around 24th or 8th place, these scenarios have probably been weighing on your mind too.

all i want is for galatasaray to beat ajax. if we hadn’t drawn against dynamo kyiv and actually managed to beat them, even a draw with ajax would’ve been enough. but damn it, the same thing that always happens happened again.

A details of probability to end in top 8 and top 24 of clubs in Europa League. Anderlecht, Olympiacos, Frankfurt played well and have high probabilities to finish in top 8. Some big clubs are fighting to complete group phase in top 24 and many of them nearly don't have chance to finish in top 8.

This means there are chances for unwated matches between big clubs in a next phase, after playoff matches. Manchester United despite of disappointed performances in Premier League, are playing well in UEFA Europa League this season and they almost have a position in top 8, with high probability as you can see below.

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