If Barcelona is just starting to straighten out the game and its standings this season, then Napoli has known better times at the beginning of the season, when it issued an impressive winning streak. Realistically speaking, Barcelona has only one chance left for the title this season and that chance is the Europa League, so I think Barcelona will take this two-legged confrontation with Napoli with all seriousness.
that is true, Barcelona only has a chance in the Europa League, that is possible they will fight to the death for it. It is true Aubemeyang is on the squad it will increase the pounding power. but he will also compete with Mauro Icardi if the clausal contract with Dembele succeeds. in the next 3 weeks, Barcelona will be host, Bet still leaning towards Barcelona. the draw is possible when the squad is still not matched yet
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With current form we can say it's very difficult match for both teams because Napoli is also doing very good, and currently they are second in Italian League and after some bad time now Barcelona is also have very good comeback, and now they are at fifth position in Spanish League with option available for them to go up and grab their fourth position after beating Atlético Madrid in next match.
It will be the most competitive match of the Europa League. Napoli's performance since the beginning of this season has been very commendable. For a long time they were at the top of the table. Now losing points is in second place in the table. However, they are only 4 points behind Inter Milan. Actually they are playing well.After a terrific and bizarre performance since the start of the season, can Barcelona now be called stable? I think now they can be called stable. Because their weakness was in match strategy. They have changed tactics, they are playing tiki-taka tactics again. They had trouble to scoring, so they picked Torres. Now they can only be strong as a team if they strengthen the defense a bit. For all these reasons, winning this match will be challenging for Napoli. I would expect a draw in the first leg.
This match is very even and both the teams have the chance to win this match but I would also say that Barcelona is my favorite team in this match. Right now they are doing quite well compared to the start of the season. I do believe that the match is going to have goals but I would not be surprised if it is a 1-1 draw.
But Barcelona should be careful not to be over-aggressive as they can be caught in counter-attack and we know that Barcelona's defensive line is not that great.
Let's go without text inflation, please 
Explain to me as simply as possible how you recognize the dominance of PSG and Bayern in the national championships, but deny the dominance of Real Madrid in the Champions League. And pay attention, I was talking about a specific segment (4 wins in 5 years) and not about the whole history or the history of 18 years.
The problem most people are having about the whole story is that when the become a fan to a team, they come out to brag about the achievements and what so ever.... Explain to me as simply as possible how you recognize the dominance of PSG and Bayern in the national championships, but deny the dominance of Real Madrid in the Champions League. And pay attention, I was talking about a specific segment (4 wins in 5 years) and not about the whole history or the history of 18 years. Madrid were awarded the championship several times under coach Zidane but that doesn't mean that they're the strongest right now in the championship; might be that when they were awarded, other teams were not in fine form and another question is...
Is this exactly the same people that played and won the championship many years ago? No! So you can't say they're superior to anyone
Are you sure that you carefully read what the discussion is about? Nowhere have I stated that Real Madrid is now dominant or a favorite. I argued that in that period of time (from the 14th to the 18th year) Real Madrid dominated the Champions League because they won this competition 4 times out of 5 possible. This fact cannot be disputed. But for some reason, some want to do this and offer to consider other conditions (periods of time) just to prove that this did not happen.
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With current form we can say it's very difficult match for both teams because Napoli is also doing very good, and currently they are second in Italian League and after some bad time now Barcelona is also have very good comeback, and now they are at fifth position in Spanish League with option available for them to go up and grab their fourth position after beating Atlético Madrid in next match.
It will be the most competitive match of the Europa League. Napoli's performance since the beginning of this season has been very commendable. For a long time they were at the top of the table. Now losing points is in second place in the table. However, they are only 4 points behind Inter Milan. Actually they are playing well.
After a terrific and bizarre performance since the start of the season, can Barcelona now be called stable? I think now they can be called stable. Because their weakness was in match strategy. They have changed tactics, they are playing tiki-taka tactics again. They had trouble to scoring, so they picked Torres. Now they can only be strong as a team if they strengthen the defense a bit. For all these reasons, winning this match will be challenging for Napoli. I would expect a draw in the first leg.
If Barcelona is just starting to straighten out the game and its standings this season, then Napoli has known better times at the beginning of the season, when it issued an impressive winning streak. Realistically speaking, Barcelona has only one chance left for the title this season and that chance is the Europa League, so I think Barcelona will take this two-legged confrontation with Napoli with all seriousness.
that is true, Barcelona only has a chance in the Europa League, that is possible they will fight to the death for it. It is true Aubemeyang is on the squad it will increase the pounding power. but he will also compete with Mauro Icardi if the clausal contract with Dembele succeeds. in the next 3 weeks, Barcelona will be host, Bet still leaning towards Barcelona. the draw is possible when the squad is still not matched yet
We can call domination what RMA or AC Milan did in the Champions League not what Barcelona did. They were not dominant, they were a good team in UCL. But I'm curious how well this new FCB team does in the EUL as they face Napoli. This game is gonna be a crucial game as it might set the momentum of Barcelona in EUL.
Surely this is going to be very interesting how they are going to do into this UEFA Europa League match against Napoli because now we are just 2 weeks away from this match, and we have International matches break just because of this we have no league matches in this weak and with these International matches many changes can happen like injury and transfer are also happening so very curious about this match and next round of this league.With current form we can say it's very difficult match for both teams because Napoli is also doing very good, and currently they are second in Italian League and after some bad time now Barcelona is also have very good comeback, and now they are at fifth position in Spanish League with option available for them to go up and grab their fourth position after beating Atlético Madrid in next match.
There are still more than two weeks for the matchups in the current round. And Barcelona seem to be getting better every week which is calming for me. Because I would like to watch a highly competitive draw between Barcelona and Napoli. By the way, Napoli had a bad period but they are doing really well recently. They have improved their performance and if they go on like this till this draw, they will still be the team one step ahead. The first match is in Camp Nou and I think that Barcelona might not lose this. On the other hand, we don't even know how much these teams will care about the Europa League too.
If Barcelona is just starting to straighten out the game and its standings this season, then Napoli has known better times at the beginning of the season, when it issued an impressive winning streak. Realistically speaking, Barcelona has only one chance left for the title this season and that chance is the Europa League, so I think Barcelona will take this two-legged confrontation with Napoli with all seriousness. On the other hand, Napoli is still continuing its battle for the Scudetto and this may bring its own nuances. The fact that Barcelona's game and results have been improving lately does not mean that this will be automatically transferred to the Europa League matches, because there is still some instability in the team's game. In any case, this is the most status match at this stage of the tournament and both teams would certainly like to continue their fight for the cup further. Champions league is a competitive league , not a competition that dominated by a single club like PSG at ligue 1 and bayern munich at bundesliga.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
Then we must talk about how we take the parameter.
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I think what he is trying to say that in the last 20 years or 10 years ... barcelona always reached semi final of the champions league at least , clearly it's not kind of dominatinhg definition , the one who win it the most it might could be defined as domination here but i guess there is no single team dominating the champions league.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
Then we must talk about how we take the parameter.
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Let's go without text inflation, please
Explain to me as simply as possible how you recognize the dominance of PSG and Bayern in the national championships, but deny the dominance of Real Madrid in the Champions League. And pay attention, I was talking about a specific segment (4 wins in 5 years) and not about the whole history or the history of 18 years. Madrid were awarded the championship several times under coach Zidane but that doesn't mean that they're the strongest right now in the championship; might be that when they were awarded, other teams were not in fine form and another question is...
Is this exactly the same people that played and won the championship many years ago? No! So you can't say they're superior to anyone
Champions league is a competitive league , not a competition that dominated by a single club like PSG at ligue 1 and bayern munich at bundesliga.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
Then we must talk about how we take the parameter.
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I think what he is trying to say that in the last 20 years or 10 years ... barcelona always reached semi final of the champions league at least , clearly it's not kind of dominatinhg definition , the one who win it the most it might could be defined as domination here but i guess there is no single team dominating the champions league.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
Then we must talk about how we take the parameter.
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Let's go without text inflation, please
Explain to me as simply as possible how you recognize the dominance of PSG and Bayern in the national championships, but deny the dominance of Real Madrid in the Champions League. And pay attention, I was talking about a specific segment (4 wins in 5 years) and not about the whole history or the history of 18 years. 
It's been a long time since Barcelona stepped into the Europa League after being eliminated from the UCL preliminary group, of course we know how in the past Barcelona always dominated the UCL but this time it decreased due to the loss of several important players. Against Napoli I think it's balanced if Barcelona play, I'm waiting for this and Napoli are also growing but indeed the performance in the domestic league and European league is always different and the Spanish team always outperforms it.
Was there ever a time when Barcelona dominated the Champions League? I remember that they won the league, but their victory alternated with regular big defeats from Bayern. If any club has dominated the Champions League, it's only Real Madrid. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to repeat their recent achievement when they won the Champions League 4 times in 5 years.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
You are right. We can call domination what RMA or AC Milan did in the Champions League not what Barcelona did. They were not dominant, they were a good team in UCL. But I'm curious how well this new FCB team does in the EUL as they face Napoli. This game is gonna be a crucial game as it might set the momentum of Barcelona in EUL.
Champions league is a competitive league , not a competition that dominated by a single club like PSG at ligue 1 and bayern munich at bundesliga.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
Then we must talk about how we take the parameter.
If you took the time span of the last 18 years and winning it as a parameter then it is correct , real madrid dominated the champions league. But if you took that time span just to support your opinion about real madrid domination then it is not correct way.
For instance , if we took the parameter from the data below :
Times reach the final
Times winning the title
Ac milan has 6 times reached the final
Ac milan has 3 times winning it
Real madrid has 7 times reached the final
Real madrid has 7 times winning it
And there is barcelona 6 times final & 4 times winning it.
More clubs like liverpool and juventus has similar statistics im champions league.
I dont see any domination here as the champions league very competitive.
Note : 1992 is the befinning year of the competition called Champions League officially.
As per cambridge dictionary defined that ... Domination : the state of having control over people or a situation (a competition) AKA excessive power over / control over.
Period.
I think what he is trying to say that in the last 20 years or 10 years ... barcelona always reached semi final of the champions league at least , clearly it's not kind of dominatinhg definition , the one who win it the most it might could be defined as domination here but i guess there is no single team dominating the champions league.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
Then we must talk about how we take the parameter.
If you took the time span of the last 18 years and winning it as a parameter then it is correct , real madrid dominated the champions league. But if you took that time span just to support your opinion about real madrid domination then it is not correct way.
For instance , if we took the parameter from the data below :
Times reach the final
Times winning the title
Ac milan has 6 times reached the final
Ac milan has 3 times winning it
Real madrid has 7 times reached the final
Real madrid has 7 times winning it
And there is barcelona 6 times final & 4 times winning it.
More clubs like liverpool and juventus has similar statistics im champions league.
I dont see any domination here as the champions league very competitive.
Note : 1992 is the befinning year of the competition called Champions League officially.
As per cambridge dictionary defined that ... Domination : the state of having control over people or a situation (a competition) AKA excessive power over / control over.
Period.
Was there ever a time when Barcelona dominated the Champions League? I remember that they won the league, but their victory alternated with regular big defeats from Bayern. If any club has dominated the Champions League, it's only Real Madrid. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to repeat their recent achievement when they won the Champions League 4 times in 5 years.
I think that is true because in the Champions League Real Madrid has always looked to be better than Barcelona, Real Madrid has a great champions League record too.
Also judging by the current situation of Barcelona I think that Barcelona's era of dominating leagues and getting back-to-back titles are going to take some time, if not a long time. And Barcelona did always look to fall behind against Bayern Munich which is quite understandable, to be honest.
Given the depth of the crisis in Barcelona, then they need to think not about dominating the Champions League, but at least how to get there. At the moment, their chances are no higher than those of Atlético.
I think what he is trying to say that in the last 20 years or 10 years ... barcelona always reached semi final of the champions league at least , clearly it's not kind of dominatinhg definition , the one who win it the most it might could be defined as domination here but i guess there is no single team dominating the champions league.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
From the 14th year to the 18th Real Madrid won the Champions League 4 times out of 5 possible. I am very interested in what universe this is not total domination over other teams
It's been a long time since Barcelona stepped into the Europa League after being eliminated from the UCL preliminary group, of course we know how in the past Barcelona always dominated the UCL but this time it decreased due to the loss of several important players. Against Napoli I think it's balanced if Barcelona play, I'm waiting for this and Napoli are also growing but indeed the performance in the domestic league and European league is always different and the Spanish team always outperforms it.
Was there ever a time when Barcelona dominated the Champions League? I remember that they won the league, but their victory alternated with regular big defeats from Bayern. If any club has dominated the Champions League, it's only Real Madrid. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to repeat their recent achievement when they won the Champions League 4 times in 5 years.
Real madrid just had the better statistics above all which yeah for me it's still cant be defined as dominating.
It's been a long time since Barcelona stepped into the Europa League after being eliminated from the UCL preliminary group, of course we know how in the past Barcelona always dominated the UCL but this time it decreased due to the loss of several important players. Against Napoli I think it's balanced if Barcelona play, I'm waiting for this and Napoli are also growing but indeed the performance in the domestic league and European league is always different and the Spanish team always outperforms it.
Was there ever a time when Barcelona dominated the Champions League? I remember that they won the league, but their victory alternated with regular big defeats from Bayern. If any club has dominated the Champions League, it's only Real Madrid. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to repeat their recent achievement when they won the Champions League 4 times in 5 years.
I think that is true because in the Champions League Real Madrid has always looked to be better than Barcelona, Real Madrid has a great champions League record too.
Also judging by the current situation of Barcelona I think that Barcelona's era of dominating leagues and getting back-to-back titles are going to take some time, if not a long time. And Barcelona did always look to fall behind against Bayern Munich which is quite understandable, to be honest.
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I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.
Barcelona also seems to be in quite a good form in recent times. On the other hand, even though Napoli is higher in the league standings their recent performance is not so consistent. So I am thinking Barcelona actually has a chance of winning the first leg.
It is not worth comparing who is higher in the standings, because the Spanish championship is much more difficult than the Italian one. Barcelona really look very good in recent matches, but I can't understand how Napoli are doing, whether they have come out of the crisis or not. Because their last two games were against weak opponents. But I think that we are waiting for a productive match in which Barca should win.Barcelona also seems to be in quite a good form in recent times. On the other hand, even though Napoli is higher in the league standings their recent performance is not so consistent. So I am thinking Barcelona actually has a chance of winning the first leg.
@Altryist, Napoli won 3 of their last five matches, and even before that they were pretty inconsistent, and compared to the recent performance of Barcelona I think that Barcelona has a better chance of winning.
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@$crypto$, Yes because the Spanish team always faces a much harder competition than the Italian League. Napoli is a little inconsistent right now. And Barcelona is really motivated and playing quite consistently. Even though Barcelona doesn't have the caliber of players that they previously had I still think that Barcelona is going to win against Napoli.
I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.
I'm afraid, Barcelona aren't favorites in my opinion to win this tie, they haven't really improved that much under Xavi as many seem to suggest, they are still struggling and have not looked convincing in as many matches, and again, the Europa league isn't really their calibre of tournament, so I can say they are even in unfamiliar territory, they are used to playing in the UCL and winning it on numerous occasions, the Europa league is more like a step down for Barcelona, so I expect that to affect their mentality and by extension, their performance. I strongly believe Napoli will win this tie.It's been a long time since Barcelona stepped into the Europa League after being eliminated from the UCL preliminary group, of course we know how in the past Barcelona always dominated the UCL but this time it decreased due to the loss of several important players. Against Napoli I think it's balanced if Barcelona play, I'm waiting for this and Napoli are also growing but indeed the performance in the domestic league and European league is always different and the Spanish team always outperforms it.
Was there ever a time when Barcelona dominated the Champions League? I remember that they won the league, but their victory alternated with regular big defeats from Bayern. If any club has dominated the Champions League, it's only Real Madrid. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to repeat their recent achievement when they won the Champions League 4 times in 5 years.
I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.
Barcelona also seems to be in quite a good form in recent times. On the other hand, even though Napoli is higher in the league standings their recent performance is not so consistent. So I am thinking Barcelona actually has a chance of winning the first leg.
It is not worth comparing who is higher in the standings, because the Spanish championship is much more difficult than the Italian one. Barcelona really look very good in recent matches, but I can't understand how Napoli are doing, whether they have come out of the crisis or not. Because their last two games were against weak opponents. But I think that we are waiting for a productive match in which Barca should win.Barcelona also seems to be in quite a good form in recent times. On the other hand, even though Napoli is higher in the league standings their recent performance is not so consistent. So I am thinking Barcelona actually has a chance of winning the first leg.
Barcelona are starting to improve at this time and indeed they have to win to keep their hopes of minimizing losses.
on the other hand napoli itself is not a very easy opponent i think even though the performance is still not too erratic but napoli but napoli is still a pretty good team at the moment
I'm also one of the people who back Barcelona up for the draw against Napoli here. I'm totally aware that Barcelona are not in a very good shape but they are improving themselves by each one of the weeks in the La Liga. Xavi's strategies are starting to work out better as time goes on and there is still enough time for this matchup too. Barcelona are going to face one of the toughest teams of this tournament but I believe that they are powerful enough to eliminate them.
I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.
Barcelona also seems to be in quite a good form in recent times. On the other hand, even though Napoli is higher in the league standings their recent performance is not so consistent. So I am thinking Barcelona actually has a chance of winning the first leg.
It is not worth comparing who is higher in the standings, because the Spanish championship is much more difficult than the Italian one. Barcelona really look very good in recent matches, but I can't understand how Napoli are doing, whether they have come out of the crisis or not. Because their last two games were against weak opponents. But I think that we are waiting for a productive match in which Barca should win.Barcelona also seems to be in quite a good form in recent times. On the other hand, even though Napoli is higher in the league standings their recent performance is not so consistent. So I am thinking Barcelona actually has a chance of winning the first leg.
However, Barcelona will probably be hosting the game, which means they have to fight for a winning.
Napoli is not a teams that can be beaten easily, but I think Barcelona have what it takes to win. I can't wait to watch this match.
napoli is also in decline, they had some difficulties in beating small teams which ended in a draw. That's why I think that for this match both teams score and the final result would be a draw because barcelona are not doing well either, I would say they are in exactly the same situation as napoli. the difference is that napoli had some victories in the last games
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