UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 220.

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Quote from: slackovic on September 15, 2021, 01:26:19 AM

Quote from: snipie on September 14, 2021, 05:05:49 PM

I didn't say Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham although it might be possible if WHU played miserably, I rather think that it might end with a draw if WHU isn't fit in that game or Dinamo showing an exceptional performance. If I have to choose, I think double chance West Ham or draw but the odds aren't interesting @1.37...

Yeah, I misread your post. West Ham could understimate Dinamo like other big teams did in the past do a draw is quite possible. If I were betting, I'd take x2 (draw or guest win) even though the odds are quite low.

@snipe I personally feel that West Ham have what it takes to win, and they very well know that winning the premier league is going to be difficult hence I’m hoping that they’ll focus a lot on prioritising the Europa League. Lastly I just hope that they don’t announce a weak lineup, because they’re facing Manchester United this weekend in the premier league.

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Quote from: slackovic on September 15, 2021, 01:26:19 AM

Quote from: snipie on September 14, 2021, 05:05:49 PM

I didn't say Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham although it might be possible if WHU played miserably, I rather think that it might end with a draw if WHU isn't fit in that game or Dinamo showing an exceptional performance. If I have to choose, I think double chance West Ham or draw but the odds aren't interesting @1.37...

Yeah, I misread your post. West Ham could understimate Dinamo like other big teams did in the past do a draw is quite possible. If I were betting, I'd take x2 (draw or guest win) even though the odds are quite low.

Betting a double chance with odds like that, I think it's pretty decent too and not too bad. But by the way, Zagreb is the strongest team in 1. HNL and vice versa, West Ham seems to have lost something terrible and unlike in the first two games in the EPL. That way maybe I will assume these two teams currently have a level that is not much different. Because of that too, I think both teams are able to make goals so I believe this match will be colored by goals from both teams and about who wins, I think both have the same chance to win.

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Quote from: snipie on September 14, 2021, 05:05:49 PM

I didn't say Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham although it might be possible if WHU played miserably, I rather think that it might end with a draw if WHU isn't fit in that game or Dinamo showing an exceptional performance. If I have to choose, I think double chance West Ham or draw but the odds aren't interesting @1.37...

Yeah, I misread your post. West Ham could understimate Dinamo like other big teams did in the past do a draw is quite possible. If I were betting, I'd take x2 (draw or guest win) even though the odds are quite low.

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The Turkish clubs in the tournament have matches like this tomorrow:

Galatasaray - Lazio : This can be a really interesting match I think. To be honest, even if the match is in Turkey, I think that Lazio are the favourite side. They have really dangerous players and they started the Serie A really good also. They were beaten by Milan the last time though. But they are still a powerful team in the end. On the other hand, Galatasaray are struggling when it comes to defense. If Lazio make use of this weakness, they would finish their opponent in the first half already.

E. Frankfurt - Fenerbahce : This should be a very competitive match I think. Both teams are one of the best teams in their leagues. As it is going to be played in Germany, maybe Frankfurt can get an advantageous result but I wouldn't like to be so sure. Fenerbahce are normally one step ahead of them now. We can see goals from both sides and it can end in a draw.

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Quote from: slackovic on September 14, 2021, 01:36:14 PM

Quote from: snipie on September 14, 2021, 11:19:22 AM

I agree with most, for West Ham I think we might see a draw too. Betis is better than Celtic. Olympiacos and Monaco to win tho. Leicester vs Napoli is the hardest and best match in the upcoming games.

I really don't think that Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham. I know that they are playing at home but they lost against Sheriff and I don't see how they could win this game. Then again, maybe they get extra motivation because they are playing against a big club like West Ham. That happend in the past when they won big games just to lose against some small club like Sheriff.

I didn't say Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham although it might be possible if WHU played miserably, I rather think that it might end with a draw if WHU isn't fit in that game or Dinamo showing an exceptional performance. If I have to choose, I think double chance West Ham or draw but the odds aren't interesting @1.37...

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Quote from: snipie on September 14, 2021, 11:19:22 AM

Quote from: Slow death on September 12, 2021, 02:31:03 PM

we will have many games, here are my games that I will analyze for a possible bet:

Spartak Moscow - Legia Warszawa

FK Crvena Zvezda - SC Braga

GNK Dinamo Zagreb - West Ham

Galatasaray - SS Lazio

Real Betis Balompie - Celtic Glasgow

AS Monaco FC - SK Sturm Graz

Leicester City - Napoli

Olympiacos - Royal Antwerp FC

Eintracht Frankfurt - Fenerbahce

I agree with most, for West Ham I think we might see a draw too. Betis is better than Celtic. Olympiacos and Monaco to win tho. Leicester vs Napoli is the hardest and best match in the upcoming games.

Of the several existing matches, the Leicester City and Napoli match is one bigmatch that is worth watching, Of course the match against Napoli could be an opportunity for Leicester City to improve their performance and return to winning ways after they were previously beaten by Manchester City in the league, and of course this will be a pretty exciting and balanced match, because this season Napoli are also in a pretty positive trend and unbeaten in the league and victory against Juventus in the third week of Serie A will certainly increase the enthusiasm for Napoli to get 3 points in that match.

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Quote from: snipie on September 14, 2021, 11:19:22 AM

I agree with most, for West Ham I think we might see a draw too. Betis is better than Celtic. Olympiacos and Monaco to win tho. Leicester vs Napoli is the hardest and best match in the upcoming games.

I really don't think that Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham. I know that they are playing at home but they lost against Sheriff and I don't see how they could win this game. Then again, maybe they get extra motivation because they are playing against a big club like West Ham. That happend in the past when they won big games just to lose against some small club like Sheriff.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 12, 2021, 02:31:03 PM

we will have many games, here are my games that I will analyze for a possible bet:

Spartak Moscow - Legia Warszawa

FK Crvena Zvezda - SC Braga

GNK Dinamo Zagreb - West Ham

Galatasaray - SS Lazio

Real Betis Balompie - Celtic Glasgow

AS Monaco FC - SK Sturm Graz

Leicester City - Napoli

Olympiacos - Royal Antwerp FC

Eintracht Frankfurt - Fenerbahce

I agree with most, for West Ham I think we might see a draw too. Betis is better than Celtic. Olympiacos and Monaco to win tho. Leicester vs Napoli is the hardest and best match in the upcoming games.

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we will have many games, here are my games that I will analyze for a possible bet:

Spartak Moscow - Legia Warszawa

FK Crvena Zvezda - SC Braga

GNK Dinamo Zagreb - West Ham

Galatasaray - SS Lazio

Real Betis Balompie - Celtic Glasgow

AS Monaco FC - SK Sturm Graz

Leicester City - Napoli

Olympiacos - Royal Antwerp FC

Eintracht Frankfurt - Fenerbahce

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 12, 2021, 02:04:03 AM

Quote from: babo on September 10, 2021, 10:36:36 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on September 04, 2021, 05:48:23 PM

Well last season they started with 7 points out of 3 games, but as I said before they played pretty lucky games. Scored in the last moment or the opponents simply failed to score 100% chances all the time. This year Monaco just isn't as lucky as they were last year.

I am also not convinced that much of Niko Kovac as a coach. Yes he was a Bayern Munich coach, but that was a very weird decision by the club anyway and the results were pretty even though he won the double. I can imagine that he won't finish the season as a coach in Monaco.

True as you say, this year was not lucky
but after all it is a mix of factors to make a winning team
Ranieri's English team won the premier league for many reasons, and even a bit of luck

it was a wonderful fairy tale and I enjoyed it all
great Ranieri

@mv1986 I feel that we need to give Niko Kovac some more time to prove himself as a coach, but if he can’t get Monaco to win consistently then he should be sacked to salvage their season. Also Ranieri won the league only once with Leicester, and then he was sacked in the next season so with luck the team needs the passion to constantly win otherwise they end up winning nothing (best example Leicester City).

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39070927

Niko Kovac had a similar problem while leading Bayern as a coach.
In the first season he was very good and won the German championship and cup but in the second season Bayern went into a big crisis, Kovac lost the trust of the club's management and was fired.
With the new coach Bayern was reborn, and won both domestic trophies again but also won the Champions League.
Kovac is a good coach, he has good work habits, he works hard but he still doesn't seem to have enough experience in leading big European teams.
I hope the story from Bayern doesn’t happen to him again.

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Quote from: babo on September 10, 2021, 10:36:36 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on September 04, 2021, 05:48:23 PM

Well last season they started with 7 points out of 3 games, but as I said before they played pretty lucky games. Scored in the last moment or the opponents simply failed to score 100% chances all the time. This year Monaco just isn't as lucky as they were last year.

I am also not convinced that much of Niko Kovac as a coach. Yes he was a Bayern Munich coach, but that was a very weird decision by the club anyway and the results were pretty even though he won the double. I can imagine that he won't finish the season as a coach in Monaco.

True as you say, this year was not lucky
but after all it is a mix of factors to make a winning team
Ranieri's English team won the premier league for many reasons, and even a bit of luck

it was a wonderful fairy tale and I enjoyed it all
great Ranieri

@mv1986 I feel that we need to give Niko Kovac some more time to prove himself as a coach, but if he can’t get Monaco to win consistently then he should be sacked to salvage their season. Also Ranieri won the league only once with Leicester, and then he was sacked in the next season so with luck the team needs the passion to constantly win otherwise they end up winning nothing (best example Leicester City).

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39070927

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Quote from: mv1986 on September 04, 2021, 05:48:23 PM

Well last season they started with 7 points out of 3 games, but as I said before they played pretty lucky games. Scored in the last moment or the opponents simply failed to score 100% chances all the time. This year Monaco just isn't as lucky as they were last year.

I am also not convinced that much of Niko Kovac as a coach. Yes he was a Bayern Munich coach, but that was a very weird decision by the club anyway and the results were pretty even though he won the double. I can imagine that he won't finish the season as a coach in Monaco.

True as you say, this year was not lucky
but after all it is a mix of factors to make a winning team
Ranieri's English team won the premier league for many reasons, and even a bit of luck

it was a wonderful fairy tale and I enjoyed it all
great Ranieri

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 04, 2021, 03:09:02 PM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 04, 2021, 07:13:12 AM

Quote from: Maidak on September 01, 2021, 09:37:02 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on August 31, 2021, 05:22:43 AM

Honestly Monaco will have a lot of troubles in the group stage of Europe league. With both Real Sociedad and PSV it will be extremly hard for them to go into the next stage. Leverkusen on the other hand has amazing chances of going to the next stage with their group not really hard but not easy as well.

It will be really difficult for Monaco to cross the group stage and go to the next round. PSV and Real Sociedad are good teams. However, Monaco is not a weak team. They often perform better than expected. But it will be difficult to predict which team will qualify to the next round.

In my opinion, in that group Real Socieda and PSV Eindhoven have a greater chance of advancing to the next round, because I see that both teams have been very consistent in their performances in their respective leagues, and it seems that the top group will belong to PSV eindhoven later, for Monaco, to be honest I'm a little doubtful if they will be able to go further in the europa league competition this season.

Monaco is playing pretty bad lately. But thats how they start always the season as i watched in the previous seasons. Real Sociedad has a chance to qualify but for me its equal for monaco and them. I think PSV will be first in the group and the top scorer should be Zahavi.

Well last season they started with 7 points out of 3 games, but as I said before they played pretty lucky games. Scored in the last moment or the opponents simply failed to score 100% chances all the time. This year Monaco just isn't as lucky as they were last year.

I am also not convinced that much of Niko Kovac as a coach. Yes he was a Bayern Munich coach, but that was a very weird decision by the club anyway and the results were pretty even though he won the double. I can imagine that he won't finish the season as a coach in Monaco.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 04, 2021, 07:13:12 AM

Quote from: Maidak on September 01, 2021, 09:37:02 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on August 31, 2021, 05:22:43 AM

Honestly Monaco will have a lot of troubles in the group stage of Europe league. With both Real Sociedad and PSV it will be extremly hard for them to go into the next stage. Leverkusen on the other hand has amazing chances of going to the next stage with their group not really hard but not easy as well.

It will be really difficult for Monaco to cross the group stage and go to the next round. PSV and Real Sociedad are good teams. However, Monaco is not a weak team. They often perform better than expected. But it will be difficult to predict which team will qualify to the next round.

In my opinion, in that group Real Socieda and PSV Eindhoven have a greater chance of advancing to the next round, because I see that both teams have been very consistent in their performances in their respective leagues, and it seems that the top group will belong to PSV eindhoven later, for Monaco, to be honest I'm a little doubtful if they will be able to go further in the europa league competition this season.

Monaco is playing pretty bad lately. But thats how they start always the season as i watched in the previous seasons. Real Sociedad has a chance to qualify but for me its equal for monaco and them. I think PSV will be first in the group and the top scorer should be Zahavi.

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Quote from: Maidak on September 01, 2021, 09:37:02 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on August 31, 2021, 05:22:43 AM

Honestly Monaco will have a lot of troubles in the group stage of Europe league. With both Real Sociedad and PSV it will be extremly hard for them to go into the next stage. Leverkusen on the other hand has amazing chances of going to the next stage with their group not really hard but not easy as well.

It will be really difficult for Monaco to cross the group stage and go to the next round. PSV and Real Sociedad are good teams. However, Monaco is not a weak team. They often perform better than expected. But it will be difficult to predict which team will qualify to the next round.

In my opinion, in that group Real Socieda and PSV Eindhoven have a greater chance of advancing to the next round, because I see that both teams have been very consistent in their performances in their respective leagues, and it seems that the top group will belong to PSV eindhoven later, for Monaco, to be honest I'm a little doubtful if they will be able to go further in the europa league competition this season.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 03, 2021, 11:34:51 AM

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Quote from: babo on September 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM

Quote from: baeva on September 02, 2021, 09:45:36 AM

Well, I said about the same thing, and there's nothing to analyze. This is soccer and anything can happen, but if you assess the situation in terms of the strength of the teams, Monaco is clearly the favorite in the group with Real Sociedad. What will happen - no one knows, but I am more than sure that either Monaco or Real will fight for the playoffs with the second place from the league than

that's the great thing about football
a team like Ranieri's in the premier league can spark sparks as many as we can dream of
if it always happened it wouldn't be fun and the bookmakers would go crazy! (It would be fun)
I agree with you, in any case

In this group, there will be a big fight among Monaco, Real Sociedad and PSV I believe. We should never underestimate any of these clubs. Considering Monaco's recent form, I think that all these three clubs have the same chance to promote to the next round. But if Monaco don't gather themselves up as soon as possible, they might be the most disadvantageous club among them.

The teams are almost equally strong. So no group in this group can be underestimated. In general, though, Real Sociedad and Monaco will look strong. However PSV is a stable enough team. They can become terrifying at any time.

PSV has an amazing team this season with Zahavi in the attack they should be really good in the Europe League. Also in their own league they are one of the favorites to win the league next to Ajax. They even lost unlucky to Benfica in pretty much even teams

Zahavi turned into one of my favorite players. I remember when I saw him play for the first couple of times and ever since then he made constant progress. His performance might peak this year. He has also proven to be competitive on international levels. I wish they made it into the Champions League, but anyway.
Let's see how Götze will perform on an international level. So far I don't still see him as a key player, but who knows if he can get back to his levels he played back when he was very young in Dortmund.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 03, 2021, 11:34:51 AM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on September 03, 2021, 09:39:15 AM

Quote from: babo on September 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM

Quote from: baeva on September 02, 2021, 09:45:36 AM

Well, I said about the same thing, and there's nothing to analyze. This is soccer and anything can happen, but if you assess the situation in terms of the strength of the teams, Monaco is clearly the favorite in the group with Real Sociedad. What will happen - no one knows, but I am more than sure that either Monaco or Real will fight for the playoffs with the second place from the league than

that's the great thing about football
a team like Ranieri's in the premier league can spark sparks as many as we can dream of
if it always happened it wouldn't be fun and the bookmakers would go crazy! (It would be fun)
I agree with you, in any case

In this group, there will be a big fight among Monaco, Real Sociedad and PSV I believe. We should never underestimate any of these clubs. Considering Monaco's recent form, I think that all these three clubs have the same chance to promote to the next round. But if Monaco don't gather themselves up as soon as possible, they might be the most disadvantageous club among them.

The teams are almost equally strong. So no group in this group can be underestimated. In general, though, Real Sociedad and Monaco will look strong. However PSV is a stable enough team. They can become terrifying at any time.

PSV has an amazing team this season with Zahavi in the attack they should be really good in the Europe League. Also in their own league they are one of the favorites to win the league next to Ajax. They even lost unlucky to Benfica in pretty much even teams

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Quote from: babo on September 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM

Quote from: baeva on September 02, 2021, 09:45:36 AM

Well, I said about the same thing, and there's nothing to analyze. This is soccer and anything can happen, but if you assess the situation in terms of the strength of the teams, Monaco is clearly the favorite in the group with Real Sociedad. What will happen - no one knows, but I am more than sure that either Monaco or Real will fight for the playoffs with the second place from the league than

that's the great thing about football
a team like Ranieri's in the premier league can spark sparks as many as we can dream of

if it always happened it wouldn't be fun and the bookmakers would go crazy! (It would be fun)
I agree with you, in any case

You mean Claudio Ranieri? I just do not quite understand you, I think he coaches Sampdoria now. If so, a great coach, who with Leicester created a fairy tale, which no one else can repeat. Even a few months before that fairy tale I started to be interested in this club, and after two matches of the new season I just fell in love with the team and they took the championship... Your post was probably just about unexpected moments in soccer, I agree with you. Such unexpected moments can give a lot of emotions and make the fans tremble
That's why I say it's impossible to predict anything, can do an analysis of the teams and base it on that. But anything can happen, the same psv can make a miracle and defeat teams with a big score

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on September 03, 2021, 09:39:15 AM

Quote from: babo on September 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM

Quote from: baeva on September 02, 2021, 09:45:36 AM

Well, I said about the same thing, and there's nothing to analyze. This is soccer and anything can happen, but if you assess the situation in terms of the strength of the teams, Monaco is clearly the favorite in the group with Real Sociedad. What will happen - no one knows, but I am more than sure that either Monaco or Real will fight for the playoffs with the second place from the league than

that's the great thing about football
a team like Ranieri's in the premier league can spark sparks as many as we can dream of
if it always happened it wouldn't be fun and the bookmakers would go crazy! (It would be fun)
I agree with you, in any case

In this group, there will be a big fight among Monaco, Real Sociedad and PSV I believe. We should never underestimate any of these clubs. Considering Monaco's recent form, I think that all these three clubs have the same chance to promote to the next round. But if Monaco don't gather themselves up as soon as possible, they might be the most disadvantageous club among them.

The teams are almost equally strong. So no group in this group can be underestimated. In general, though, Real Sociedad and Monaco will look strong. However PSV is a stable enough team. They can become terrifying at any time.

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Quote from: babo on September 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM

Quote from: baeva on September 02, 2021, 09:45:36 AM

Well, I said about the same thing, and there's nothing to analyze. This is soccer and anything can happen, but if you assess the situation in terms of the strength of the teams, Monaco is clearly the favorite in the group with Real Sociedad. What will happen - no one knows, but I am more than sure that either Monaco or Real will fight for the playoffs with the second place from the league than

that's the great thing about football
a team like Ranieri's in the premier league can spark sparks as many as we can dream of

if it always happened it wouldn't be fun and the bookmakers would go crazy! (It would be fun)
I agree with you, in any case

In this group, there will be a big fight among Monaco, Real Sociedad and PSV I believe. We should never underestimate any of these clubs. Considering Monaco's recent form, I think that all these three clubs have the same chance to promote to the next round. But if Monaco don't gather themselves up as soon as possible, they might be the most disadvantageous club among them.

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