UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 58.

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Quote from: hahay on April 17, 2022, 05:23:23 AM

Quote from: Unknown01 on April 17, 2022, 05:00:00 AM

Worse than Barcelona's embarrassment by not having a single major title fight this season, consider Barcelona's even worse financial situation. The Uefa title would have given them at least a little financial help. Now they have hardly any income.

In addition, I think that with the remaining teams, unfortunately, there are no longer any big players and the tension is low.

There are still plenty of sources of income that Barcelona generates, and it's not just about winning titles for an income. In fact, rumors about Lewandowski are likely to be true and Barcelona will sign him for 3 years according to one source I read. Just imagine, the best player in FIFA's version can be recruited by Barcelona, even if you think they have no income, even though it's just a rumor but we can see that Barcelona is not a poor team. Lol! So in this case, club income is not just about winning titles because there are still many sources of club income which of course will be fine for Barcelona too. Winning and losing in a match is natural, because basically Barcelona themselves this season didn't start well so I think it's only natural that Barcelona stopped in the quarter-finals. I think it's good enough with what Xavi has done, getting through to 2nd place in La Liga and getting to the quarter-finals in the Europa League is good enough.

You are aware that Barcelona has debts of more than 1,3 Billion €? The reason for that is that they have paid Messi 555 Million € between 2017 and 2021, which means more than 130 Million per yearh which is just absolutely crazy. Then the covid pandemic came and the the very fragile financial foundation of Barcelona just completely fell apart.
So they definitely would have needed that few extra Million € that they could have earned when they have reached the Europa League final. I also think that it is absolutely ridiculous that they have still signed Ferran Torres from ManCity for a few of 50 Million € and they are now wanting to sign Lewnadowski too which would probably also cost at least 50 Million of transfer fee + a high yearly salary.
Barca should not be allowed to pay such high transfer fees until their debts are back to a normal level. Spanish clubs just seem not to be able to handle money reasonably. Real Madrid also has 900 Million of debts and they will want to sign Mbappe and Haaland, absolutely crazy.

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The most important income of big clubs like Barca is the champions league, then the uefa league as a substitute. With a title in the UL or CL you get financial budget that is completely missing now and you can't just replace that.

What they currently earn is the least, the club has high debts and had to give away a lot of top players because they couldn't even pay the salaries anymore for example Messi and now you‘re talking about lewa Cheesy

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Quote from: Unknown01 on April 17, 2022, 05:00:00 AM

Worse than Barcelona's embarrassment by not having a single major title fight this season, consider Barcelona's even worse financial situation. The Uefa title would have given them at least a little financial help. Now they have hardly any income.

In addition, I think that with the remaining teams, unfortunately, there are no longer any big players and the tension is low.

Of course, Barcelona needs income financially, but I don't think there were high payments for them in the European league anyway. I heard that Barcelona has a lot of debt. If a new President comes, if there is a new administration, only the financial debts can be met. They are in a good position in the league, and they can earn a good income in the champions league next year.

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Quote from: hahay on April 17, 2022, 05:23:23 AM

Quote from: Unknown01 on April 17, 2022, 05:00:00 AM

Worse than Barcelona's embarrassment by not having a single major title fight this season, consider Barcelona's even worse financial situation. The Uefa title would have given them at least a little financial help. Now they have hardly any income.

In addition, I think that with the remaining teams, unfortunately, there are no longer any big players and the tension is low.

There are still plenty of sources of income that Barcelona generates, and it's not just about winning titles for an income. In fact, rumors about Lewandowski are likely to be true and Barcelona will sign him for 3 years according to one source I read. Just imagine, the best player in FIFA's version can be recruited by Barcelona, even if you think they have no income, even though it's just a rumor but we can see that Barcelona is not a poor team. Lol! So in this case, club income is not just about winning titles because there are still many sources of club income which of course will be fine for Barcelona too. Winning and losing in a match is natural, because basically Barcelona themselves this season didn't start well so I think it's only natural that Barcelona stopped in the quarter-finals. I think it's good enough with what Xavi has done, getting through to 2nd place in La Liga and getting to the quarter-finals in the Europa League is good enough.

it's true, it doesn't mean a club that doesn't get a trophy this season has no income. Barcelona is a great team they have only been on the decline this season and it was only a short time at the start of the season before Xavi finally came with many positive changes. The progress and setbacks of a football club's achievements are natural but how do they respond to it to be able to get up quickly and Barcelona have done their best to get back to the quality of their best team.

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Quote from: Unknown01 on April 17, 2022, 05:00:00 AM

Worse than Barcelona's embarrassment by not having a single major title fight this season, consider Barcelona's even worse financial situation. The Uefa title would have given them at least a little financial help. Now they have hardly any income.

In addition, I think that with the remaining teams, unfortunately, there are no longer any big players and the tension is low.

There are still plenty of sources of income that Barcelona generates, and it's not just about winning titles for an income. In fact, rumors about Lewandowski are likely to be true and Barcelona will sign him for 3 years according to one source I read. Just imagine, the best player in FIFA's version can be recruited by Barcelona, even if you think they have no income, even though it's just a rumor but we can see that Barcelona is not a poor team. Lol! So in this case, club income is not just about winning titles because there are still many sources of club income which of course will be fine for Barcelona too. Winning and losing in a match is natural, because basically Barcelona themselves this season didn't start well so I think it's only natural that Barcelona stopped in the quarter-finals. I think it's good enough with what Xavi has done, getting through to 2nd place in La Liga and getting to the quarter-finals in the Europa League is good enough.

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Worse than Barcelona's embarrassment by not having a single major title fight this season, consider Barcelona's even worse financial situation. The Uefa title would have given them at least a little financial help. Now they have hardly any income.

In addition, I think that with the remaining teams, unfortunately, there are no longer any big players and the tension is low.

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Quote from: G_Besar on April 16, 2022, 05:54:02 PM

Very tragically, Barca crushed by Frankfurt in front of their own tifosi. The elimination of Barcelona in the Europa League stage was a heavy blow for Xavi Hernandez's troops, not without reason, the Europa League trophy is a trophy that is very likely to be won this season. Then the thing that really stifled them was that before this match, El Barca had recorded a brilliant record, namely an unbeaten record in the last 15 matches, Xavi was very disappointed with his players, because they made so many mistakes that Frankfurt punished in a very tragic way. This is a result that surprised many parties, of course.

Barcelona's defeat against Frankfurt is sad but no the worst as few peoples are giving reaction because they already recovered from a crushing season into good position, and they can take this defeat as a good lesson for their future plans because Xavi Hernandez is doing some good experiments for future which will helps them for good and better strategy.

Frankfurt having good time in Europa League and their new experiments helping them for outclass team like Barcelona now we have some good competition between two teams West Ham United vs Frankfurt both are level in quality and adopting good new era soccer tactics which are helping them for having good results into Europa Cup even it's not easy for any team to compete with teams from different leagues and have good and fair results.

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Quote from: Luzin on April 16, 2022, 10:08:06 PM

Quote from: Lordhermes on April 16, 2022, 08:34:52 PM

Barcelona defeat to Frankfurt was unbelievable in the eyes of fans. Frankfurt has breaken the long time unbeaten record that Xavi's has set for the team.

From the start I predicted that Barcelona would have a hard time dealing with Frankfrut's quick counter-attack. It proved yesterday, they were 3 goals behind. Besides that, fankfrut also plays modern football. Didn't have much possession of the ball but they were effective and won. Of course this is also a warning that the European league is not an easy league too for Barcelona.
I'm quite surprised with West Ham they are able to do well in Europe, they will play Frankfurt in the semifinals.

Out of the 4 teams in the semi-finals Rangers was the most surprising one of them was when they beat Dortmund I'm sure no one expected Rangers to go this far
I can't imagine if they win the Europa League they have strength in defense and attack a combination that can destroy anyone in the semi-finals
So far I can't guess who deserves to win the Europa League because the chances are the same.

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Many wrong predicting about Barcelona as most favorite for UEFA Europe League winner and we know out expectation because Frankfurt paly most effective and 30,000 fans support on Camp Nou Stadium give more motivation. I think defensive player for Barcelona play very bad and how many time left and right back side make several mistake and give opportunity for Frankfurt forward for scoring goals. Bad season for Barcelona because they can't get any trophy yet because europe league last chance but failed lead to semifinal.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 16, 2022, 08:34:52 PM

Barcelona defeat to Frankfurt was unbelievable in the eyes of fans. Frankfurt has breaken the long time unbeaten record that Xavi's has set for the team.

From the start I predicted that Barcelona would have a hard time dealing with Frankfrut's quick counter-attack. It proved yesterday, they were 3 goals behind. Besides that, fankfrut also plays modern football. Didn't have much possession of the ball but they were effective and won. Of course this is also a warning that the European league is not an easy league too for Barcelona.
I'm quite surprised with West Ham they are able to do well in Europe, they will play Frankfurt in the semifinals.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 16, 2022, 08:34:52 PM

Barcelona defeat to Frankfurt was unbelievable in the eyes of fans. Frankfurt has breaken the long time unbeaten record that Xavi's has set for the team. Their Defeat at Camp Nou was still a shocking to them, they conceded clear 3 goals in the game before bouncing back to score, Sergio Busquets tried his first goal ttempt, but was ruled out by VAR, he netted another one which was a stunning kick from outside the box in the 84th minutes, which gave catalans hope to pressure Frankfurt and draw the game, although they scored at the last minute of game, but the results can't take them to extra time. It was a big frustrating game for Xavi and team own.

I wonder what was really the plan in the game for Xavi, really. You can agree with me that, Barcelona had lots of activities when Memphis Depay came on. Most of his crosses came out just right but, I was just minutes to go and Eintracht Frankfurt had built a 5 man defense line to ensure some aggressive defending of there backline and interception of the ball too. Barcelona's best chance for a goal is just as Sergio Busquets later discovered and that was to shoot from outside the box, after having his first goal cancelled due to offside with his right foot and arms. De Jong had a chance at goal too but failed to utilise it until, Memphis Depay managed to make out that penalty. Barcelonahad enough opportunityto get a 4-4 aggregateand didn't. Unfortunately. Unfortunately, they are out and we could hope for some good performance from Eintracht Frankfurt.

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Barcelona defeat to Frankfurt was unbelievable in the eyes of fans. Frankfurt has breaken the long time unbeaten record that Xavi's has set for the team. Their Defeat at Camp Nou was still a shocking to them, they conceded clear 3 goals in the game before bouncing back to score, Sergio Busquets tried his first goal ttempt, but was ruled out by VAR, he netted another one which was a stunning kick from outside the box in the 84th minutes, which gave catalans hope to pressure Frankfurt and draw the game, although they scored at the last minute of game, but the results can't take them to extra time. It was a big frustrating game for Xavi and team own.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 16, 2022, 10:47:22 AM

Barcelona gained exactly zero experience from this defeat Wink

I assure you next season you will see many more such defeats if Barcelona do not get rid of Xavi.

I reaally thought that Barcelona could be the winner of this Europe Leage with their come back oerformance. But the last match really surprising. They lost and they have no chance again to bring any single throphy this season.
They should learn much in the next season.
But yes, Eintracht Frankfurt really could utilize the shits on target maximally and they played more effectively in the match.

Congratulations to all teams that are qualified for the next semi final of Europe League.
West Ham may be my favorite right now to win.

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Quote from: G_Besar on April 16, 2022, 05:54:02 PM

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Quote from: bct_ail on April 15, 2022, 02:48:29 PM

Did anyone think Frankfurt had a chance? This game was perfectly clear for most people. Barcelona wins. Frankfurt loses. But it turned out quite differently and Frankfurt scored the goals at the right time with a lot of courage from distance. Congratulations to Frankfurt. Now it is on to West Ham.

Yes it was a great match between Barcelona and Frankfurt. I didn't believe that Barcelona would lose the match against Frankfurt. Though Barcelona played well at the end of the match but Frankfurt did well and scored goals at the right time.

Very tragically, Barca crushed by Frankfurt in front of their own tifosi. The elimination of Barcelona in the Europa League stage was a heavy blow for Xavi Hernandez's troops, not without reason, the Europa League trophy is a trophy that is very likely to be won this season. Then the thing that really stifled them was that before this match, El Barca had recorded a brilliant record, namely an unbeaten record in the last 15 matches, Xavi was very disappointed with his players, because they made so many mistakes that Frankfurt punished in a very tragic way. This is a result that surprised many parties, of course.

After a series of positive results, Barcelona finally had to admit the greatness of Frankfurt. It is very painful to have to suffer defeat in front of
their own supporters, and make Barcelona lose the opportunity to get a trophy this season. Of course Xavi felt quite disappointed with
the elimination of Barcelona from the Europa League, even though he hopes the Europa League trophy will be his first trophy as
the main coach of Barcelona. But Xavi and the Barcelona players must act professionally, and must be able to quickly move on from a bad result
against Frankfurt. Hopefully Barcelona can take lessons from this defeat, but I believe what Xavi has shown by changing Barcelona's form to be
much better than at the start of this season, make Barcelona supporters can accept the elimination of Barcelona from the Europa League competition.
I believe Barcelona supporters are still quite satisfied with Barcelona's performance so far.

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Quote from: Rana590 on April 15, 2022, 03:13:33 PM

Quote from: bct_ail on April 15, 2022, 02:48:29 PM

Did anyone think Frankfurt had a chance? This game was perfectly clear for most people. Barcelona wins. Frankfurt loses. But it turned out quite differently and Frankfurt scored the goals at the right time with a lot of courage from distance. Congratulations to Frankfurt. Now it is on to West Ham.

Yes it was a great match between Barcelona and Frankfurt. I didn't believe that Barcelona would lose the match against Frankfurt. Though Barcelona played well at the end of the match but Frankfurt did well and scored goals at the right time.

Very tragically, Barca crushed by Frankfurt in front of their own tifosi. The elimination of Barcelona in the Europa League stage was a heavy blow for Xavi Hernandez's troops, not without reason, the Europa League trophy is a trophy that is very likely to be won this season. Then the thing that really stifled them was that before this match, El Barca had recorded a brilliant record, namely an unbeaten record in the last 15 matches, Xavi was very disappointed with his players, because they made so many mistakes that Frankfurt punished in a very tragic way. This is a result that surprised many parties, of course.

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I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

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Many Frankfurt supporters bought tickets unofficially that's why more than 30000 supporters can enter the stadium even though it should be no more than 15000
Some media say this is one of the factors that affect Frankfurt's game they seem to get more motivated

This should be one of their best game of the season.
Did you see how they played? They held Barcelona very well and hit them with counter attack's.
They did good use of the wings since the midfielder's of Barcelona were very better than them in the game , they also defended very well.

However, at the same time Barcelona were attacking just as well and as you can see the defence did not do very well if allowed to do so, all the more allowing two goals. So I wouldn't make the claim that Barcelona's opponents were much better than the home side. It was just because of those counterattacks that it was interesting to watch the match

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Quote from: jakdanyel on April 16, 2022, 03:18:08 PM

Frankfurt shouldn't be too complacent at all. Because their next opponent isn't going to be a piece of cake for them. West Ham have played really great so far and it was a great joy to watch them against Lyon in the second leg of their draw. As long as West Ham keep up the good work, Frankfurt can be in a really deep trouble against them. It wouldn't matter for West Ham to play home or away against them also. We all witnessed what they did to Lyon in their away match in the end.

The difference between Barcelona and West Ham is that it will be much harder to score against a team from the Premier league then Barcelona that is an offensive team. So this will probobly be a low scoring duel and a really hard for both of the teams. Everybody thinks that Frankfurt knocked out Barcelona and that it will be easy to win the Europe league but it wont

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Quote from: jakdanyel on April 16, 2022, 03:18:08 PM

Frankfurt shouldn't be too complacent at all. Because their next opponent isn't going to be a piece of cake for them. West Ham have played really great so far and it was a great joy to watch them against Lyon in the second leg of their draw. As long as West Ham keep up the good work, Frankfurt can be in a really deep trouble against them. It wouldn't matter for West Ham to play home or away against them also. We all witnessed what they did to Lyon in their away match in the end.

With in local leagues both teams are performing equally but having very good in UEFA Europa Cup is amazing for them both have equal chance for having their best opportunity to qualify for final but here home match is going to be very important for them because this can give any team vital chance for going through into final.

In second round of quarter-final they disrupt Barcelona with their vital goal which was great from them but now here they need to be more energetic as West Ham United is also looking for their best result in European competitions which makes this match very entertaining for both teams fans. With their last round matches, it's very hard to predict about result because both play very good at home and then have better results in away matches which give them chance for this match.

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Frankfurt shouldn't be too complacent at all. Because their next opponent isn't going to be a piece of cake for them. West Ham have played really great so far and it was a great joy to watch them against Lyon in the second leg of their draw. As long as West Ham keep up the good work, Frankfurt can be in a really deep trouble against them. It wouldn't matter for West Ham to play home or away against them also. We all witnessed what they did to Lyon in their away match in the end.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 16, 2022, 01:43:47 PM

Quote from: hollandalibaykus on April 16, 2022, 01:01:53 AM

I agree with you Frankfurt could not have won this match otherwise but what the team needed was to make a good defense by scoring at the right time but I think Barcelona's attacks were not effective enough (: The ball always remained with the Barcelona players but after playing with the ball for such a long time we had to see more effective attacking organizations

If Frankfurt can continue their remarkable match strategy then maybe they can win the Europa League title. Frankfurt's next opponent is West Ham. West Ham are not a weak team. And so Frankfurt must perform well to win. Since Frankfurt is in pretty good form now. And the Frankfurt boys are now much more confident after the win against Barcelona. And so I think they will be able to play well against West Ham as usual.

Frankfurt is playing really amazing at this time. They are so confident to win next match against West Ham. All the players of Frankfurt is on their good form and if they give strong effort, I think they will be able to win against West Ham easily.

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