UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 60.

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Quote from: udidrone on April 15, 2022, 06:49:05 PM

Barcelona definitely got a lot of experience from this defeat a defeat that no one had ever thought of before including us as fans
Another fact is controlling the match 75% does not guarantee will win the match Frankfurt can compensate on the counter-attack

Actually Frankfurt who are from the German League also have experience and they also know that Barcelona is a strong club so they try to attack as much as possible to get goals from the start. And it turned out that this was successfully done so that until the end of the match Frankfurt was still enthusiastic because their hard work paid off with a win which was unexpected by everyone.

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I have something to say about Europa League, Barcelona crash out and Westham United of England.

Europa League.
Earlier on, I have predicted that the two favourite teams to likely win the Europa league are Barcelona and Westham United.
Barcelona; because they have been playing well very recently and also they are club that has good champions league experience. Falling back to europa would be the only way to redeem their glory after a poor season start and a humiliating crash out of the Champions League.
Westham; because they were very excellent in the europa from group stage and they have been doing well in Epl since the beginning and always around of the top 4.

Since Barcelona carelessly fell out of the europa. I said careless because Xavi didn't study the hungry Frankfurt boys very well. Those boys needed people that will muscle them and Barcelona has Adama and Memphis and decided to bench them.

Well, this may be the time of Westham because they are good, they have been good from the start of the europa league and in as much as Antonio and Bowen are not tired or injured. Westham has the brightest chance to lift the Europa League Cup.

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Quote from: dezoel on April 15, 2022, 04:49:04 PM

It was really an unlikely situation and Frankfurt managed something nobody really expected. Not only they won, but they won comfortably, do not be fooled by the 3-2 result, it was 3-0 at one point at around like 66th minute or so if I am not wrong, which means this was as close as Barcelona could get, and Frankfurt actually had plenty of situations that could have resulted with even bigger lead as well. All in all, I have to say it is clear to me that Barcelona just got dominated.
One loss since January 20th or something and that loss was out of europa league, as bad as it can get. Hopefully they could recover from this and be a better team.

Well, why, I was counting on something like this, because I saw the first match and saw with what desire Eintracht is playing and how it can skillfully overcome the defensive orders of Barcelona in a few passes. The only thing I didn't expect was that Eintracht would lead 0-3 on the opponent's field by a certain point. We can also talk about the absolutely crazy support of the fans from Frankfurt, who by hook or by crook managed to infiltrate the stadium and convey their emotions to the players of their club. It was just necessary to hear the joyful reaction of the stadium to Barcelona's cancelled goal against Eintracht, as if the match was held in Frankfurt, and not in Barcelona.

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Quote from: dezoel on April 15, 2022, 04:49:04 PM

It was really an unlikely situation and Frankfurt managed something nobody really expected. Not only they won, but they won comfortably, do not be fooled by the 3-2 result, it was 3-0 at one point at around like 66th minute or so if I am not wrong, which means this was as close as Barcelona could get, and Frankfurt actually had plenty of situations that could have resulted with even bigger lead as well. All in all, I have to say it is clear to me that Barcelona just got dominated.

One loss since January 20th or something and that loss was out of europa league, as bad as it can get. Hopefully they could recover from this and be a better team.

Barcelona definitely got a lot of experience from this defeat a defeat that no one had ever thought of before including us as fans
Another fact is controlling the match 75% does not guarantee will win the match Frankfurt can compensate on the counter-attack
Frankfurt proves no matter who the opponent is while there is still time they keep trying to get maximum results.

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Quote from: yayayo on April 15, 2022, 05:44:50 PM

I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

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Many Frankfurt supporters bought tickets unofficially that's why more than 30000 supporters can enter the stadium even though it should be no more than 15000
Some media say this is one of the factors that affect Frankfurt's game they seem to get more motivated apart from the luck factor of course
I wonder if Frankfurt and supporter can do it again against West Ham? it's worth the wait.

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I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

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I thought the game was only a day away when I wrote the post yesterday, yeah, not very happy with that result, was hoping Barcelona would be able to get through... I watched the review, it was a very fast game in terms of tempo, running from goal to goal without stopping! I haven't seen a game like this in a long time, even though Barcelona lost, but watching the replay made me happy

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It was really an unlikely situation and Frankfurt managed something nobody really expected. Not only they won, but they won comfortably, do not be fooled by the 3-2 result, it was 3-0 at one point at around like 66th minute or so if I am not wrong, which means this was as close as Barcelona could get, and Frankfurt actually had plenty of situations that could have resulted with even bigger lead as well. All in all, I have to say it is clear to me that Barcelona just got dominated.

One loss since January 20th or something and that loss was out of europa league, as bad as it can get. Hopefully they could recover from this and be a better team.

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Quote from: Rana590 on April 15, 2022, 03:13:33 PM

Yes it was a great match between Barcelona and Frankfurt. I didn't believe that Barcelona would lose the match against Frankfurt. Though Barcelona played well at the end of the match but Frankfurt did well and scored goals at the right time.

I think we cannot say Barcelona was playing well, dude. If they were playing well, they should qualify for the next round. In my opinion, Barcelona cannot play as well as the usual performance. I don't know what's happening with them, they seem to lose focus and very carelessly in defense. Barcelona also cannot play aggressively, it makes them be difficult to get ideal shot attempts. In the previous match, I am surprised they only have 10 shot attempts and only 4 on target. While Frankfurt could have 15 shot attempts and 7 on target. It is not the stats of the usual match of Barcelona, especially when they are playing at home.

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Quote from: herurist on April 15, 2022, 03:41:57 PM

This is football, anything can happen in 90 minutes of a game. it doesn't matter how strong they are how good their players are and their individuality but when playing 90 minutes without cohesiveness and focus there it will only be a loss.
Frankfurt played very well in this match and Barcelona took this too easy so they didn't focus on the defense which Frankfurt did well.
on the other hand, when many people don't think that the expectations of Barcelona in this match are quite large, so when they lose, it is quite natural that many people lose their bets.

If we took this as the norm, then we wouldn't be able to wager on PSG or Bayern in league games neither, nor Barcelona. But when I see them playing against weak teams in the league, I have zero hesitations to wager on them. The difference is that this is an elimination game and usually teams put %100 on the field, in a league format you could lose, you could even relegate, but at the end of the day its 30+ games a year, but when it comes to Europa or UCL, or conference from now on, we are talking about just one game, deciding your faith and that is why we get to see these as shocking results. If we looked at league games, I am sure even the best teams lost or got a draw against weak teams in the league as well but since they win 30 times and do that only a few times, it's not a shock.

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Quote from: Rana590 on April 15, 2022, 03:13:33 PM

Quote from: bct_ail on April 15, 2022, 02:48:29 PM

Did anyone think Frankfurt had a chance? This game was perfectly clear for most people. Barcelona wins. Frankfurt loses. But it turned out quite differently and Frankfurt scored the goals at the right time with a lot of courage from distance. Congratulations to Frankfurt. Now it is on to West Ham.

Yes it was a great match between Barcelona and Frankfurt. I didn't believe that Barcelona would lose the match against Frankfurt. Though Barcelona played well at the end of the match but Frankfurt did well and scored goals at the right time.

This is football, anything can happen in 90 minutes of a game. it doesn't matter how strong they are how good their players are and their individuality but when playing 90 minutes without cohesiveness and focus there it will only be a loss.
Frankfurt played very well in this match and Barcelona took this too easy so they didn't focus on the defense which Frankfurt did well.
on the other hand, when many people don't think that the expectations of Barcelona in this match are quite large, so when they lose, it is quite natural that many people lose their bets.

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Quote from: bct_ail on April 15, 2022, 02:48:29 PM

Did anyone think Frankfurt had a chance? This game was perfectly clear for most people. Barcelona wins. Frankfurt loses. But it turned out quite differently and Frankfurt scored the goals at the right time with a lot of courage from distance. Congratulations to Frankfurt. Now it is on to West Ham.

Yes it was a great match between Barcelona and Frankfurt. I didn't believe that Barcelona would lose the match against Frankfurt. Though Barcelona played well at the end of the match but Frankfurt did well and scored goals at the right time.

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Quote from: Slow death on April 15, 2022, 03:59:50 AM

FC Barcelona - Eintracht Frankfurt Grin

this was a pathetic result for barcelona, but it was already an expected result, and it's not because Eintracht Frankfurt is a strong team, in fact Eintracht Frankfurt are a weak team that in the next phase will just be a team in which whoever calls to play against them he was just lucky because he will win. Barcelona's defeat has to do with the problem in defense, they had already conceded 2 goals against Levante, and note that Levante is in the relegation zone, so it was already foreseeable that Barcelona would concede many goals, I canceled my bet immediately that I realized this.

The truth is that Barcelona performance has not been really stable, before now I already know they will be out from the European league. Barcelona is trying but are not playing like the way they used to be before. Barcelona lack good defense which is really affecting them, now they are out they will have time to tackle their problems for La Liga.

teams normally changes or have revolution because each season team sell players and also buy players, so i think such is what is making all the football team to lose it aginity and values, Barcelona is a nice team but what is making it not to play nice as you expected their performance now is because of their former players like messi has left the team since with other players, before you will talk about their performance they most have good players for substitution by buying more players

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Did anyone think Frankfurt had a chance? This game was perfectly clear for most people. Barcelona wins. Frankfurt loses. But it turned out quite differently and Frankfurt scored the goals at the right time with a lot of courage from distance. Congratulations to Frankfurt. Now it is on to West Ham.

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And now Frankfurt's opponent in the semi finals is West Ham. I'm already saying that it is going to be a very difficult matchup for Frankfurt. Because it isn't going to be the same as playing against Barcelona. West Ham want this title as much as Frankfurt or even more than them now. And their performance so far has been just fascinating. If West Ham maintain this effort, they can even beat Frankfurt in both legs of this matchup. They are a far stronger and qualified team than Frankfurt already. It is all about the effort level at this point.

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Quote from: Slow death on April 15, 2022, 03:59:50 AM

FC Barcelona - Eintracht Frankfurt Grin

this was a pathetic result for barcelona, but it was already an expected result, and it's not because Eintracht Frankfurt is a strong team, in fact Eintracht Frankfurt are a weak team that in the next phase will just be a team in which whoever calls to play against them he was just lucky because he will win. Barcelona's defeat has to do with the problem in defense, they had already conceded 2 goals against Levante, and note that Levante is in the relegation zone, so it was already foreseeable that Barcelona would concede many goals, I canceled my bet immediately that I realized this.

Barcelona have big problems in their defense. I agree with you on this. They made a mistake at the beginning of the match and faced a penalty. They started the game from behind 1-0. An unfortunate start. It is not easy to make up for such mistakes in European matches. If Galatasaray had been a little lucky and a little resourceful, they could have eliminated Barcelona in the previous round. Congratulations to Frankfurt. They deserved to pass the tour.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on April 15, 2022, 12:53:57 PM

Of course the four teams will not waste the opportunity to appear in the final. Frankfurt have overcome a big hurdle in the semifinals, they put in a great performance at the Camp Nou which saw Barcelona crash out of this tournament. Leipzig also looked very aggressive, 0-2 score at Gewiss Stadium was enough for Leipzig to appear in the semifinals. West Ham and Rangers are the favorites to appear in the final, but Leipzig and Frankfurt can provide a surprise that makes football observers' predictions miss a lot.

Barcelona lost shockingly, that's the point. The match was tight but Frankfurt's effective and fast play made Barcelona make a lot of mistakes and failed to anticipate the counter-attack. It was a match with an unexpected result as Barcelona expected. Now Barcelona has failed in all competitions, Champions League, Europa League, Copa Del Rey, Laliga is only the last hope but it is also not about the title but rather qualifying for the Champions League next season.

So I think Frankfurt deserve to be in the final this season after winning a fierce battle at Barcelona, but West Ham are also quite promising. They are the only EPL team in the Europa League at the moment, so I think they have a good chance too.

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At this point, I will be supporting West Ham to beat Frankfurt and move them out of the tournament in the semi final stage. West Ham are caring about the Europa League too much now and it is not going to be the same journey for Frankfurt because of that. Barcelona didn't care about it at all. The 2-3 result shouldn't be misleading as they somehow scored those two goals in the stoppage time. West Ham showed a superb performance against Lyon in the last round and I expect to see the same effort against Frankfurt as well.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on April 15, 2022, 01:26:05 PM

It was really surprising for me to see that Leipzig didn't have a huge difficulty in defeating Atalanta. I was expecting to see extra time at least but Leipzig won by 2-0 in 90 minutes. Atalanta weren't playing badly actually but they were lacking skills about finishing that's for sure. And it cost them the tournament. As Atalanta also were giving a big importance to the Europa League, I assume that they are really sad and disappointed about the result too.

Atalanta isn't in its best shape this season, neither in CL, nor in EL, nor in Serie A.. They even risk to not play in European competitions next season.
Now for the first leg of the semi-final, odds are way better for Leipzig and West Ham.
Leipzig are better than Rangers and the odds seems correct for me, but honestly WHU @1.89 vs Frankfurt @4.3, you have the feeling that Frankfurt are a bunch of losers or WHU are very strong! Neither of it is correct obviously but even playing home doesn't guarantee anything.

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Quote from: Lafu on April 15, 2022, 01:22:04 PM

After the games this week i would say that its possible that we maybe see a German final , Frankfurt vs Leipzig .
But West Ham and the Rangers are not to be underestimated and who knows maybe we will see an island duel with them.
My favorite would be Frankfurt that they get into the final as they really deserved it in my opinion.

I am 90% sure that the final will be West Ham - Leipzig, which is a pretty good option both in terms of entertainment and variety (the German final would be dull I think).
I think that all Barcelona fans will hope Frankfurt to get to the final and win, because otherwise it will turn out that Barcelona did fly out not from the title holder or finalist, but from an ordinary participant in the tournament.

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