Topic: UFC 211: Miocic vs Dos Santos info and Prediction Thread (Read 3593 times)
@bbc.reporter If Miocic could defend the belt for a couple of times then he can be considered as one of the best heavyweights of all time,Werdum has defeated the likes of Cain Velasquez,Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira and Fedor Emelianenko all in their prime and so he should be considered as one of the top five heavyweights of all time.
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horrible card for me.
horrible card for me.
@bbc.reporter the reason people will start talking about that after defeating Cain is simply because the heavyweight division never had a great fighter who could impose their will and dominate the entire division, for me Cain is a great fighter but is he the greatest fighter,hell no and look at the age of Werdum when he got knocked out cold,the entire division is not getting younger,that being said Miocic is a really good fighter and with the confidence and the momentum he has he could be the best heavyweight of all time if he could perform like this for a couple of years.
Read my post again 5 times. When did I say that Stipe Miocic is the greatest of all time? What I said was a Cain vs Stipe fight might be a causal effect that Stipe will be considered one of the greatest of all time. If you think Fabricio is more commendable to be the greatest then he should prove it by challenging Stipe. If you think he is too old then he should retire.
Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all. And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof. I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW. Rightly so. I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division? (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).
I believed that Miocic vs Velasquez fight will really tell who is the most dominant HW fighter now. But I don't know what happen to Cain now, is he still injured or just enjoying father time? I hope he came back because I think he is still in the height of his career. I still remember his workrate fighting JDS and how he destroy him. But it Stipe Miocic time to shine now unless Cain comeback and spoils it.
Well, Stipe said he also wants to start working on a kid now so he might take some free time too
Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all. And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof. I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW. Rightly so. I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division? (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).
I believed that Miocic vs Velasquez fight will really tell who is the most dominant HW fighter now. But I don't know what happen to Cain now, is he still injured or just enjoying father time? I hope he came back because I think he is still in the height of his career. I still remember his workrate fighting JDS and how he destroy him. But it Stipe Miocic time to shine now unless Cain comeback and spoils it.
@bbc.reporter the reason people will start talking about that after defeating Cain is simply because the heavyweight division never had a great fighter who could impose their will and dominate the entire division, for me Cain is a great fighter but is he the greatest fighter,hell no and look at the age of Werdum when he got knocked out cold,the entire division is not getting younger,that being said Miocic is a really good fighter and with the confidence and the momentum he has he could be the best heavyweight of all time if he could perform like this for a couple of years.
@bbc.reporter the real petty sight of UFC heavy weight division is that no one was able to establish dominance over anyone for a longer period of time and you cannot consider yourself the best by winning just two fights in a row.Why i said to look at Werdum's resume is he defeated Fedor Emelianenko who is the greatest fighter of all time,defeated TRT Big Foot Silva who was really dangerous back then and then Cain Velasquez. If Stipe Miocic could defeat Cain then he wont be having much of a challenge in the division,i am looking for Francis Ngannou and i am interested to see who he will be facing next.
You should also consider that this is a time where there is USADA checking up on the fighters if they are using steroids or not. The great fighters you mention might not be very great without steroids.
You say Fabricio Werdum is great, ok he is great. But it only took Stipe 1 round to knock him out. Also I did not say Stipe will become the greatest of all time but people will start talking about it if he beats Cain.
Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all. And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof. I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW. Rightly so. I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division? (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).
@bbc.reporter the real petty sight of UFC heavy weight division is that no one was able to establish dominance over anyone for a longer period of time and you cannot consider yourself the best by winning just two fights in a row.Why i said to look at Werdum's resume is he defeated Fedor Emelianenko who is the greatest fighter of all time,defeated TRT Big Foot Silva who was really dangerous back then and then Cain Velasquez. If Stipe Miocic could defeat Cain then he wont be having much of a challenge in the division,i am looking for Francis Ngannou and i am interested to see who he will be facing next.
@bbc.reporter are you serious, a fighter who was able to defend the belt twice is considered the greatest fighter of all time. Let him start winning some fights and let him stay healthy for a couple of months and lets decide whether he can be considered the best in the world,Fabrício Werdum had a real chance to be considered the best fighter as he has defeated every fighter and look at his resume .
Please read my post again. I did not say anything like that so stop assuming. What I said is a fight between Cain Velasquez and Stipe Miocic might be a causal element of making who the greatest heavyweight fighter will be in the UFC. You question Stipe? Ok let him fight Cain then let us see the result.
I saw Fabricio's resume. Stipe knocked him out easily.
The Question: What Was the UFC Thinking Feeding Yair Rodriguez to Frankie Edgar?
It was a brutal beating at the hands of Frankie and sure it did kill all the momentum the young Yair Rodriguez had in his short MMA career,instead of feeding him to Edgar too soon they could have developed him into a good fighter and it was a disappointment as they failed miserably as a fight promoter . I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.
The Question: What Was the UFC Thinking Feeding Yair Rodriguez to Frankie Edgar?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2709622-the-question-what-was-the-ufc-thinking-feeding-yair-rodriguez-to-frankie-edgar
A few points raise in the article. Nice read though. Just thought of sharing to you guys.
@bbc.reporter are you serious, a fighter who was able to defend the belt twice is considered the greatest fighter of all time. Let him start winning some fights and let him stay healthy for a couple of months and lets decide whether he can be considered the best in the world,Fabrício Werdum had a real chance to be considered the best fighter as he has defeated every fighter and look at his resume .
So who is going to fight Stipe next? I hope Cain Velasquez will come to full health very soon. A fight between them will be the causal element of who the greatest heavyweight will be in the history of the UFC. Some are saying it is still Cain while the others are now starting to think it is Stipe.
@Hydrogen Good luck next time,the UFC use the big cage in their main cards and especially PPV and only in the free product they will be using the smaller cage,it is true that it will make a difference in the fighters preparation but it looked like a regular cage for me.JDS always had a problem by getting stuck with the cage and this time he got knocked down while Cain used his short punches while Miocic gave a cross punch which took him down.
This card crushed me. I was wrong on almost every fight. Good night of fights. Some match ups were so close it was difficult to tell who won the fight and who lost. I don't remember if the cage was the smaller one. The UFC has a big cage and a small cage. It seemed like a small cage with how often Gabriel Benitez and JDS were stuck on the fence. I have to watch some of the fights again to see which it was.
I was wrong on almost every fight. Good night of fights. Some match ups were so close it was difficult to tell who won the fight and who lost. I don't remember if the cage was the smaller one. The UFC has a big cage and a small cage. It seemed like a small cage with how often Gabriel Benitez and JDS were stuck on the fence. I have to watch some of the fights again to see which it was. I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.
What a performance by Edgar. It was a total domination. Rodriguez didn't know what to do. He took Yair's back and throw elbows after elbows. That cause Rodriguez eye to swell. Yair will have nightmares of Frankie Edgar. While Miocic performance is expressive as well. Congrats to both.
Damn! My boy JDS has lost it already. Time for him to hang up and forgot all about fighting. I think it will be better if he will just work from behind like a coach or mentor. Miocic is a different animal and I agree, he has improved a lot already.
As far as Yair is concern, he needs to have a tune up fight to bring back his confidence level after the beating he got. And just want I have predicted, my boy Frankie is too much for him. I still believed that Frankie Edgar beat Jose Aldo in their fight. He will still remained as one of my all time favorite fighter.
As far as Yair is concern, he needs to have a tune up fight to bring back his confidence level after the beating he got. And just want I have predicted, my boy Frankie is too much for him. I still believed that Frankie Edgar beat Jose Aldo in their fight. He will still remained as one of my all time favorite fighter.
I think this should be it for jds. I agree that watching him, he's a bit too sluggish being a fan, it pains me see him get beat like that. and yeah the heavyweight division isn't that exciting anymore compared to the prime of jds, cain and even brock. perhaps randy couture would consider coming back again LOL
UFC never had a dominant champion in the heavy weight division in their history ,the only division they always had exciting fighters was the light heavyweight division,as they had dominant and exciting fighters,Miocic is too good and he has improved a lot,JDS lost this match does not mean that it is time for him to call it quits as he is young compared to the other fighters. If you are looking for an exciting fighter in the heavy weight division look out for Francis Ngannou.JDS is too proud of a Brazilian. I don't think he will quit just like that. He will still continue to fight on until he don't have it anymore. Look at the Noguiera twins, they are still at it, fighting and hoping to get a crack at the belt. Miocic did improved a lot I think he has the longest defense so far in the Heavyweight division. He's future look bright really, until someone will come along.
I think this should be it for jds. I agree that watching him, he's a bit too sluggish being a fan, it pains me see him get beat like that. and yeah the heavyweight division isn't that exciting anymore compared to the prime of jds, cain and even brock. perhaps randy couture would consider coming back again LOL
UFC never had a dominant champion in the heavy weight division in their history ,the only division they always had exciting fighters was the light heavyweight division,as they had dominant and exciting fighters,Miocic is too good and he has improved a lot,JDS lost this match does not mean that it is time for him to call it quits as he is young compared to the other fighters. If you are looking for an exciting fighter in the heavy weight division look out for Francis Ngannou. Jump to: