UFC 211: Miocic vs Dos Santos info and Prediction Thread - page 4.

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I'm also eager to watch Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez.

I'm excited to see that one as well.
I think Yair could pull an upset. A lot of younger names are defeating the older more established fighters in the UFC.
If Frankie Edgar can't get the fight to the ground, I think Yair will beat him.

Yair Rodríguez is a up coming talent and his fight against Frankie Edgar will determine whether he is ready for the title as it is not that easy to defeat the future hall of fame fighter and it is not that easy to defeat him even on the feet.I really think that his experience in the fight game will give an advantage to Frankie Edgar and if Yair could defeat Frankie then he will be having his title shot next.

If you look at Frankie Edgar's fighting history, he has lost 2 times versus Benson Henderson who is a practitioner of Taekwondo. Yair Rodriguez is also a practioner of Taekwondo so maybe he already has the platform that plays on Frankie's weaknesses.

Also it would be too early for Yair to get a championship fight if he wins versus Frankie Edgar.

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@Hydrogen. Boxing is dead. The sport has already made it past the silver age and the golden age and has already been declining since the early 2000s. After the days of fighters like Pretty Boy Floyd or Manny Pacquiao I do not know any charismatic boxer anymore.

You should have watched the fight. Wladimir Klitschko vs Anthony Joshua revived the good times of heavyweight boxing that night. It was a more exciting fight than most of the boring UFC fights i've seen lately. Haters have been claiming boxing is dead for a long time just like they claim BTC is dead, but it's always there and always comes back.

I do accept the fact that the fight between Wladimir Klitschko and Joshua was a classic one and it was a break out performance from Joshua as this fight elevated him to super stardom and it is true that we are not seeing some interesting matches in the boxing scene, being a boxing fan it is always great to see good fights and we would like to see some good fights,UFC is becoming a spectacle now a days as people are fighting for the belt right away after a long break of four years and so on,it will undermine the legitimacy of the entire structure.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on April 27, 2017, 05:46:55 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2017, 06:40:43 AM

I'm also eager to watch Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez.

I'm excited to see that one as well.
I think Yair could pull an upset. A lot of younger names are defeating the older more established fighters in the UFC.
If Frankie Edgar can't get the fight to the ground, I think Yair will beat him.

Yair Rodríguez is a up coming talent and his fight against Frankie Edgar will determine whether he is ready for the title as it is not that easy to defeat the future hall of fame fighter and it is not that easy to defeat him even on the feet.I really think that his experience in the fight game will give an advantage to Frankie Edgar and if Yair could defeat Frankie then he will be having his title shot next.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 29, 2017, 08:12:04 PM

@Hydrogen. Boxing is dead. The sport has already made it past the silver age and the golden age and has already been declining since the early 2000s. After the days of fighters like Pretty Boy Floyd or Manny Pacquiao I do not know any charismatic boxer anymore.

You should have watched the fight. Wladimir Klitschko vs Anthony Joshua revived the good times of heavyweight boxing that night. It was a more exciting fight than most of the boring UFC fights i've seen lately. Haters have been claiming boxing is dead for a long time just like they claim BTC is dead, but it's always there and always comes back.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on April 29, 2017, 02:09:51 PM

Is anyone tuning in to watch Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko?

I haven't watched boxing in a long time. Who do people see as winning that fight?

Wladimir is a decent underdog, possibly due to him not doing well against Tyson Fury.

I've never heard of Anthony Joshua or seen him fight before today.

Didn't mean to hijacked this thread but damn, Anthony Joshua get off the floor, score three knockdowns of his own, then stop Wladimir Klitschko in the eleventh round. I think Wladimir Klitschko is done now. Lost to Tyson Fury in 2015 and now to the younger Anthony Joshua. I know they used to be sparring partner before, but now Joshua proved he is the King now. Their is a rematch clause though, so let us see what would be Wladimir's next move, though he should retire and let Fury vs Joshua fought and continue the legacy of the Heavyweight division.

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@Hydrogen. Boxing is dead. The sport has already made it past the silver age and the golden age and has already been declining since the early 2000s. After the days of fighters like Pretty Boy Floyd or Manny Pacquiao I do not know any charismatic boxer anymore.

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Is anyone tuning in to watch Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko?

I haven't watched boxing in a long time. Who do people see as winning that fight?

Wladimir is a decent underdog, possibly due to him not doing well against Tyson Fury.

I've never heard of Anthony Joshua or seen him fight before today.

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@pereira4. I am thinking the same thing. The odds on Stipe Miocic are now looking good compared to the odds last month. Maybe bettors are looking too much on JDS' win versus Stipe in the 1st fight. Stipe has improved and has become champion since that loss.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2017, 06:40:43 AM

Miocic vs Dos Santos for me is a good fight and it can go either way. Maybe Junior Dos Santos has been in so many fights, but I still believed he still have some in this tank. Although Miocic has improved a lot, Junior Dos Santos I believed some something to proved that he still got it. My bet JDS.

I'm also eager to watch Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez. Yair is one of the rising star in the UFC but I think I have to go with Frankie Edgar here. Frankie is still a legend for me and I love watching his in and out movement. This fight will end in a decision, but this time it is Frankie's hand who is gonna be raised. My bet Frankie Edgar.

Would you make a bet for JDS at these present odds given? They look very low now especially if you saw how high they were when the betting opened.

Im pretty sure that Junior Dos Santos is going to lose, so im not going to spend any money on this bet, you must say "buy why, go with Miocic". Well, even if in my opinion this is an easy win for Miocic, im not going to risk it, JDS got too much experience, he may be out of shape and out of his prime but he is thought and may get a lucky night and defeat Miocic.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2017, 06:40:43 AM

Miocic vs Dos Santos for me is a good fight and it can go either way. Maybe Junior Dos Santos has been in so many fights, but I still believed he still have some in this tank. Although Miocic has improved a lot, Junior Dos Santos I believed some something to proved that he still got it. My bet JDS.

I'm also eager to watch Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez. Yair is one of the rising star in the UFC but I think I have to go with Frankie Edgar here. Frankie is still a legend for me and I love watching his in and out movement. This fight will end in a decision, but this time it is Frankie's hand who is gonna be raised. My bet Frankie Edgar.

Would you make a bet for JDS at these present odds given? They look very low now especially if you saw how high they were when the betting opened.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2017, 06:40:43 AM

I'm also eager to watch Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez.

I'm excited to see that one as well.

I think Yair could pull an upset. A lot of younger names are defeating the older more established fighters in the UFC.

If Frankie Edgar can't get the fight to the ground, I think Yair will beat him.

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Miocic vs Dos Santos for me is a good fight and it can go either way. Maybe Junior Dos Santos has been in so many fights, but I still believed he still have some in this tank. Although Miocic has improved a lot, Junior Dos Santos I believed some something to proved that he still got it. My bet JDS.

I'm also eager to watch Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez. Yair is one of the rising star in the UFC but I think I have to go with Frankie Edgar here. Frankie is still a legend for me and I love watching his in and out movement. This fight will end in a decision, but this time it is Frankie's hand who is gonna be raised. My bet Frankie Edgar.

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I think Junior Dos Santos is past his prime so is Fabricio Werdum, they have recieved too many hits to he head and need to retire. Miocic has improved a lot in the past years in his technique, his genetics make him a total beast, he will be a thought match an I think he will win JDS and continue reining the division with an Overeem that is also past his prime and definitely can't fight without steroids at top level.

The heavy weight division is filled with people who are really old,the average age is above 35 years and in the future if they could not find any real talents then it will be a boring division and that will be the case with light heavy weight division too as some of the top fighters have moved on to Bellator and with the retirement of Anthony Johnson the division has become shallow.

I think Stefan "Skyscraper" Struve can become a dominant force in the heavyweight UFC division. He has insane height, reach, and power, he needs to put work in his technique to use physical superiority over the rest, otherwise he will be a useless lanky easy target.

the only good prospect at HW is Francis Ngannou prob will be champ soon

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Francis Ngannou is a solid competitor but he hasn't shown yet enough to become a champion imo, but yeah, considering Daniel Cormier will ignore anyone that isn't Jon Bones Jones at this point since he has beaten everyone else, Francis has no shot against the best HW fighters. The best fight I can see in his portfolio is beating an out of prime Arlovski.

you prob havent even seen one of Ngannous fights and you think struve can be a dominate force then you go on talking about the LHW divison lol i like struve but he had his chances and you prob dont even watch mma just here to get some post in

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I should say jds still has a legitimate chance of beating stipe here. As we all kniw already i think jds is one of the best heavyweight strikers ever and he's been out for quite a time, i think if somehow the old jds will show up miocic would go down. He's been beaten by jds before and tbough dos santos came from quite a long break, i think he has miocic's number. My bet is on jds and its quite exciting now to see him fight again

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Quote from: notserp on April 24, 2017, 08:42:40 PM

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I think Junior Dos Santos is past his prime so is Fabricio Werdum, they have recieved too many hits to he head and need to retire. Miocic has improved a lot in the past years in his technique, his genetics make him a total beast, he will be a thought match an I think he will win JDS and continue reining the division with an Overeem that is also past his prime and definitely can't fight without steroids at top level.

The heavy weight division is filled with people who are really old,the average age is above 35 years and in the future if they could not find any real talents then it will be a boring division and that will be the case with light heavy weight division too as some of the top fighters have moved on to Bellator and with the retirement of Anthony Johnson the division has become shallow.

I think Stefan "Skyscraper" Struve can become a dominant force in the heavyweight UFC division. He has insane height, reach, and power, he needs to put work in his technique to use physical superiority over the rest, otherwise he will be a useless lanky easy target.

the only good prospect at HW is Francis Ngannou prob will be champ soon

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Stipe Miocic
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Henry Cejudo
Eddie Alvarez

Francis Ngannou is a solid competitor but he hasn't shown yet enough to become a champion imo, but yeah, considering Daniel Cormier will ignore anyone that isn't Jon Bones Jones at this point since he has beaten everyone else, Francis has no shot against the best HW fighters. The best fight I can see in his portfolio is beating an out of prime Arlovski.

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@bbc.reporter It is a full stacked card as even a former champion Eddie Alvarez is scheduled to fight in a prelim but what is strange for me is that a former title challenger Henry Cejudo is fighting in the main card.Hope the main level pay per view fighters gets the share of the event and Eddie Alvarez misses out on a big pay day.

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Quote from: notserp on April 25, 2017, 09:57:50 PM

crazy maia +115 - +120 now
its almost the same kinda match up as jacare vs whittaker where i had whittaker the striker but masvidal is not as fast or as strong as whitatker thats why i like maia the grappler in this one in this one

Yair Rodríguez is a bold pick and sure he is having a good momentum but he defeated a returning B.J. Penn after a gap of three years,yes he is an unorthodox striker but Frankie Edgar is a battle tested veteran and i do see him defeating one of the best in the division and if not for Aldo he would have been the champion and even Connor ducked him as he knew it is a hard battle. Masvidal had his losses but if you look at his last three losses they were really close one and lost by split decision but Maia is a special talent and i hope it will be a hard battle.

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crazy maia +115 - +120 now

its almost the same kinda match up as jacare vs whittaker where i had whittaker the striker but masvidal is not as fast or as strong as whitatker thats why i like maia the grappler in this one in this one

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