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Jones vs. Gustafsson
 Gustafsson 3.43


Cris Cyborg vs. Amanda Nunes
 Nunes 3.25

 Michael Chiesa vs. Carlos Condit
 Chiesa 1.55

Ilir Latifi vs. Corey Anderson
 Latifi 1.66

 Cat Zingano vs Megan Anderson
 Zingano 1.81

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Amanda Nunes is fighting again. I love the way she fight and those lockdowns are impressive. Though betting with her means having less winnable on our water than betting with cyborg, I would still be on the side of Nunes.
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Everybody is on drugs these days it's only a matter of being smart and able to cover it up. Lance Armstrong was doping, all bodybuilders are on steroids, recently one of them got a fatal heart attack at the age of 26. I read about it like a week ago.

Gustafsson is having his fun:



The event will be a double doping match:

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on January 6, 2012, it was announced that Cyborg had tested positive for stanozolol, an anabolic steroid. As a result of the banned substance, the fight's result was changed to a no contest. Cyborg had her license suspended for one year and was fined $2,500.
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^  Exactly what I'm saying!  I'm hearing Jones is allegedly micro dosing Mibolerone which is usually cut with Turinabol which then explains why he had small traces of it in his system.

Anyway, all this, is from what we're seeing right now.  Let's wait til the event is over...



From what I understand, UFC is trying to portray Jones as not doing this "micro-dosing", what was found out was just a residual from his previous failed doping test. Maybe this is the cover up of sort or damage control on their cash cow. lol.
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^  Exactly what I'm saying!  I'm hearing Jones is allegedly micro dosing Mibolerone which is usually cut with Turinabol which then explains why he had small traces of it in his system.

Anyway, all this, is from what we're seeing right now.  Let's wait til the event is over...


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^  And then what...?

It's not a residue from one year ago lol and we have no idea of the amount he took (tiny or not). He just fucked up his timing, that's all.
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^  And then what...?
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The half-life of a drug is the time it takes for the amount of a drug in your body to be reduced by 50%.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-the-Half-Life-of-a-Drug.aspx

Let's say Jones took a 100mg dose of Turinabol, the drug found in his system. Tbol's half-life is 16 hours.

16 hours after the drug administration, 50 mg of the drug remains in the body.
32 hours after the drug administration, 25 mg of the drug remains in the body.
48 hours after the drug administration, 12.5 mg of the drug remains in the body.
64 hours after the drug administration, 6.25 mg of the drug remains in the body.
80 hours after the drug administration, 0.39 mg of the drug remains in the body.
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^  Sure...  Everyone is taking something to get an edge, but not everyone is f*cking doping, else USADA, WHO COULD DETECT A PICO GRAM OF SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY, would be flagging way more athletes left and right than they are now.  Let that sink in first.

And let's just wait til the event is over...  I think there's more to the Jones' flagging than we're seeing now.
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THEY ARE ALL ON JUICE FOR GOD'S SAKE !!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48899256

Nope...  Not all of them.  Not all of them in the UFC at least, else we'd be seeing lots more being flagged left and right.  It's just Jones, who may have micro dosed recently for this event and Dana White covering it up.

Oh my, why do I keep arguing, it's hopeless ?
Let me explain to you how this works. These guys take everything, everything they can get their hands on in order to get an edge.
They have doctors, team members monitoring what they do.
They will only take short ester injections and oral drugs because they get out of their systems quickly. That's why they pass tests easily. And I'm not talking about the products that cleanse their bodies before the tests or products that are undetectable as of today.

I mean no disrespect but thinking that professional sports are "clean" is very naive. And we're talking about MMA here, a sport where you have to be strong, fast, resistant, ferocious, where you need to train a lot and where recovery and healing are very important.

White covering it up ? There is no covering up, it's out. And now everybody calls Jones a cheater... well he is just stupid enough to get caught that's all, he's no different from other fighters, they're all cheaters if you wanna go there.

Why are others not getting caught ? They're probably smarter than Jones.
There is more money in sports federations than in Anti doping agencies so athletes will always be one step ahead. Some athletes are probably taking peds that the anti doping agencies haven't even heard about, peds they won't be testing before a long time.
And who knows, maybe some of these guys get caught regularly but we never hear about it. You think there is no corruption when so much money is at stake ?

Micro-dosing ? No it's just that the tbol was almost out of his system at the time of the test. That's why the result was low.

Just enjoy the fight and stop thinking about this. The best fighter will win whatever was said the past few days.
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Guys, stop thinking the "juice thing" will have any incidence on the fight because it won't.
It's just another fight for them, nothing extraordinary here.
Do you think its fair to fight someone who is on "juice"?


THEY ARE ALL ON JUICE FOR GOD'S SAKE !!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48899256

Nope...  Not all of them.  Not all of them in the UFC at least, else we'd be seeing lots more being flagged left and right.  It's just Jones, who may have micro dosed recently for this event and Dana White covering it up.
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@NavI_027. Can I join you in your time machine? The main event is not starting for another 24 hours in normal time, I reckon. I would like to know the results ahead of time and make my bets hehehe.

@kenzawak. We heard you. However, why was Jon the only fighter caught by USADA in this event?

Maybe @NavI_027 lives on Asia and usually 1 day ahead so maybe he thought that fight is today.

@ kenzawak - Well if Jones took it himself then obviously he knows nothing about those PED's, hehehe. Probably they are all into steroids but for all the high profile athletes who have been tested Jones was so unlucky that he got caught the second time around.
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@kenzawak. We heard you. However, why was Jon the only fighter caught by USADA in this event?

Who knows ?
Maybe his coaches gave him bad advice on what to take and when to take it or maybe it's Jones himself who didn't listen to them.
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@NavI_027. Can I join you in your time machine? The main event is not starting for another 24 hours in normal time, I reckon. I would like to know the results ahead of time and make my bets hehehe.

@kenzawak. We heard you. However, why was Jon the only fighter caught by USADA in this event?
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Litecoin's gonna sponsor the fight.
The Litecoin logo will be seen in the Octogon :
Wow! Good for ltc. I feel proud that it will be the first one who will sponsor a mix martial arts organization. I just wish that the logo of it will not only be printed on the canvas but also advertised personally by the commentators like Joe Rogan because it's a more effective form of persuasion Smiley.

Does anybody else feel the event is now less anticipated than it was a couple months ago?
I don't feel the same way. Few hours left before the match starts and I'm excited to watch on how Gus will break the Bones Grin.
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Guys, stop thinking the "juice thing" will have any incidence on the fight because it won't.
It's just another fight for them, nothing extraordinary here.
Do you think its fair to fight someone who is on "juice"?


THEY ARE ALL ON JUICE FOR GOD'S SAKE !!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48899256
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Guys, stop thinking the "juice thing" will have any incidence on the fight because it won't.
It's just another fight for them, nothing extraordinary here.
Do you think its fair to fight someone who is on "juice"?
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Guys, stop thinking the "juice thing" will have any incidence on the fight because it won't.
It's just another fight for them, nothing extraordinary here.
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^  Yup...  Sad.  But as Gus would say the fight must go on.  It's really generous of him to still go with the bout even if he's totally aware Jones could be juicing.  Maybe the UFC offered Gus more money...?  Lol.  Wink
Hey, do you think that it will affect Gus psychologically knowing that his opponent is juicing? I'm not really sure about the offer though, would it make sense for him to back out and waste the opportunity to make money? Maybe if he lost, he will claim that because Jones is juicing, lol.
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^  Yup...  Sad.  But as Gus would say the fight must go on.  It's really generous of him to still go with the bout even if he's totally aware Jones could be juicing.  Maybe the UFC offered Gus more money...?  Lol.  Wink
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I live close to where John grew up. Big fan, sad to see the controversy. Hopefully, he can clear it up and continue.
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