Topic: UFC 232: Jones vs Gustafsson 2 Prediction and Info Thread - page 4. (Read 1145 times)

Jon Jones is the worst scum you can meet. I don't know why White supports him so much. He is shame to sport and more than that to the UFC organisation. That tweet from Mark Hunt sums it all. The truth really hurts. My pick is Alexander Gustafsson and I wish him luck to send drug person in hospital.

Does anybody else feel the event is now less anticipated than it was a couple months ago?  I didn't even watch the promo vids and haven't been checking the line movements as much.

I think Jon Jones is def juicing with the UFC is covering it up...

I mean pace himself, LOL. Perhaps I forgot to take my daily dose of insulin when I replied. 


I agree, but the whole scenario change again when Jones tested positive and I'm sure that his legacy will be tainted even if he win the rematch. Anyways, it was reported that the substance has no performing enhancing qualities,


https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/24/18155298/jon-jones-agrees-to-vada-drug-testing-ahead-of-ufc-232

@Kemrait. What is phased?

@Hydrogen. Jon Jones also has improved his boxing. I reckon the biggest difference between his fights from before and the fight next week will be his hands. They will be faster, stronger and they will hit their targets.

My prediction is a doctor's stoppage on the 5th round because Alexander Gustaffson's eyes are closed shut courtesy of Jon Jones' boxing hehehe.

According to USADA, the UFC’s anti-doping partner, an “extremely low” amount of the prohibited substance 4-chloro-18-nor-17β-hydroxymethyl,17α-methyl-5α-androst-13-en-3α-ol (M3) was found in Jones’ system from an out-of-competition sample collected in early December. It was the same substance Jones tested positive for in July 2017 and USADA and CSAC, citing scientists, have said that it’s a long-term metabolite and Jones has already been sanctioned for this particular substance. The metabolite has no performance-enhancing qualities, Foster said, citing scientists and Dr. Daniel Eichner, the lab director at WADA-accredited SMRTL in Salt Lake City.

Not sure this is the right place to debate about this but peds are present in every professional sport.
Tennis players, runners, boxers, fighters, soccer players... all pro athletes take enhancement drugs.
Why ? Money, fame, glory... and because all others do. The same reason reason Chris Hemsworth does it before every Thor movie.
Remember that day Tyson bit Holyfield's ear ? He took something before that fight that made him go crazy. Well, all mma fighters take that specific drug before getting in the cage.  
They need drugs to get fit, drugs to get strong, drugs to heal faster, drugs to have more stamina and drugs to be enraged.
It's easy to do and easy not to get caught.

They all mostly used to take ped's.  But not anymore.  

Newsflash they all take peds. They just have protocols so that it doesn't appear in drug tests.
Jones probably got bad advice, that's why he got caught.
If there was tbol in his system, that's because he took it (and not one year ago lol), there's no way around it.

So the fight between Cris Cyborg and Amanda Nunes took almost a year in the making with Amanda Nunes taking a lot of time and giving an alibi about his supposed injury. Cris Cyborg also made an announcement that this might be her final with with UFC. Take note "final with with UFC" so does this means she might sign up with another promotions?

Can't wait to see the Jones / Gustafsson revenge. Jones deserved to win the first even though it was closer than many expected. For me Gustafsson had the first two rounds, Jones the last three after he adapted to Gus' boxing.
I want to see Jones in the heavies after this.

EDIT : https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/12/23/18154355/ufc-232-jon-jones-tests-positive-trace-amount-turinabol-moved-to-california-one-week-out-mma-news


That's BS :
https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/Turinabol---16-hour-half-life:2755163

Jon Jones' failed test was on July 17, 2017. That was nearly a year and a half away from today, or in other terms, 12,480 hours ago. Therefore that means that the quantity of Turinabol has "halved" 780 times - once every 16 hours. So lets say that the test that Jon Jones had failed showed he had 100 times the legal steroid limit found in his system back in July 2017. That means 16 hours later on the next day July 18th he would have 50 times the legal limit. That means in two days (or 48 hours) he would have 12.5 times the legal limit. To get below the legal limit it would take 6 days because the 1/2 life of Turinabol is so short. After 520 days, or 780 half life periods, the amount of turinabol that would be in Jon Jones' system if he was first caught with 100 times the legal limit would be 3.10 E -233 (that is 3.10 x 10 to the power of minus 233) of the legal limit. Dana White and Jeff Nowitzi were trying to give us this bullshit about how small a "picogram" is. A picogram is 1/1000 of a nanogram. So the maximum amount of testosterone that could be found in a human males system is around 12 ng/ml (or 1,200 ng/dl = 40 nmol/l). That is the equivalent of 12,000 PICOGRAMS/ml. So let's assume the USADA threshold for failing a drug test is 6x the MAXIMUM normal human level is 72,000 pg/ml. So if Jon Jones had tested at 100 times the legal limit in July 2017, then that means his levels would have been approximately 7,200,000 pg/ml when he got busted (and he would also have been dead...but that's another discussion). So now lets do 780 half lifes to 7,200,000 pg/ml x 3.10 E -233 = 2.264 E -226 pg/ml. In other words there is no possible way that this sample is measured in PICOGRAMS unless you use incredibly large negative exponent numbers. There is no unit of measure for a number that small in terms of grams. And there is no possibility that their measuring devices picked up the July 17, 2017 metabolite in that miniscule a quantity. That quantity would be immeasurable.

No fight or show would happen once they do make such decision in regards with drug test result but USADA proved about his innocence.

I want to see Jones in the heavies after this.

^  I'm rooting for Gus but I just can't see how he wins vs Jones.  Jones is just too good

Same with Nunes...  Cyborg is just too guy.  Lol. 

According to a report by MMA Junkie (which was corroborated by ESPN’s Brett Okamoto), Jones tested positive for a trace amount of DHCMT, also known as Turinabol, earlier this month. USADA head Jeff Novitzky called this a “pulsing” effect, basically stating that it was still in his system from his 2017 positive test that netted him a 15-month suspension. It is not a new ingestion, and it was a pictogram - basically an extremely tiny amount. So he has not violated USADA rules.