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Quote from: KTChampions on September 13, 2021, 08:18:17 AM

This will not happen, not because it is a business or not a business. This approach is too totalitarian, and even those who do not think about the global relationship between the state and the individual understand this. If the sphere of gambling has been destroyed today, what will prevent the state from destroying any other one tomorrow? Or declare sex a harmful addiction and allow it on coupons? Nobody wants these options.

It may sound outlandish. But I am afraid that with every passing year such authoritarian regimes are becoming more and more frequent. Governments are increasingly tilting towards the left-wing and ultra-left side of the spectrum and these guys are perfectly OK with zero anonymity and zero personal liberties. KYC is being implemented everywhere, even for a $100 cryptocurrency purchase. The justification being given is that there are guys who are indulging in tax evasion and drug purchases, and so all the transactions need to be verified.

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Quote from: davis196 on September 13, 2021, 02:51:20 AM

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling.
My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere.
What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"?
Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble?
I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect.
In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only.
Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia.

Such are the regulations and matters concerning the legality of the existence of a gambling in certain places. No one escapes the supervision of the government, they have a path to take advantage of gambling, no matter whose money is taken, the most important thing is that all can pay taxes with a predetermined amount. In the UK and in the US each has regulations based on places that allow suitable and strategic places to gamble. Not a few that there they have understood the habits of the rich to gamble.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 13, 2021, 07:05:45 AM

Exactly.

If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms, physical casinos, lotteries, and other form of gambling. Nonetheless, since it is business, there's no way it would happen. Business earns money through people's desires, and it's a cycle. The Government earn taxes from gambling, the gambling businesses earn money from gamblers, and gamblers earn money from gambling, however, not all gamblers are earning money from it.

This will not happen, not because it is a business or not a business. This approach is too totalitarian, and even those who do not think about the global relationship between the state and the individual understand this. If the sphere of gambling has been destroyed today, what will prevent the state from destroying any other one tomorrow? Or declare sex a harmful addiction and allow it on coupons? Nobody wants these options.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 13, 2021, 07:05:45 AM

Exactly.

If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms, physical casinos, lotteries, and other form of gambling. Nonetheless, since it is business, there's no way it would happen. Business earns money through people's desires, and it's a cycle. The Government earn taxes from gambling, the gambling businesses earn money from gamblers, and gamblers earn money from gambling, however, not all gamblers are earning money from it.

The cycles got one common thing, it's all about the money.
Gamblers play in hope to win money, while casino owners are taking advantage knowing that from this misconception they will earn from their patrons, while in the other side, government are getting money with the implemented taxes and some casino workers are also earning money from their salaries.

We will keep seeing this cycle the only solution is to ban if the government is serious about taking good care of this problem, restriction about ages or wages will not work as there are always possible ways to bypass or tweak these informations.

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Quote from: davis196 on September 13, 2021, 02:51:20 AM

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling.
My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere.
What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"?
Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble?
I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect.
In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only.
Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia.

Minimum wages will not help to reduce the global increase in gambling addictions; it is still dependent on the individual's mentality. Even if it costs a lot of money, if a person is desperate for a small percentage win, they will do it because most of them are getting fomo'd and just gambling without thinking or analyzing the situation they're in. Actually, USA made a good choice of having a specific area where they can gamble so then people will not just go around, play gamble anytime they want and get addicted to it since gambling was purposely made for entertainment with the involvement of money.

Exactly.

If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms, physical casinos, lotteries, and other form of gambling. Nonetheless, since it is business, there's no way it would happen. Business earns money through people's desires, and it's a cycle. The Government earn taxes from gambling, the gambling businesses earn money from gamblers, and gamblers earn money from gambling, however, not all gamblers are earning money from it.

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 12, 2021, 09:21:26 AM

The accessibility of crypto gambling now is way to easy that many young ones are able to play it and use it as well the putting of money to play is now easier there is no need for verification at all. Gambling areas now were too many to control individual to go there. What we just need is to have discipline and let the people we know have control of what might happen if they don't discipline themselves.

That is something that adult people need to concern and needs to tell their kids or young generations in their family. Without telling them that playing gambling is dangerous, they will easily visit the gambling site and play some games without adult people knowing. Maybe we already see that some young generations become addicted to gambling and they are hard to solve the problem until their family knows them to make another trouble for their lives.

Quote from: South Park on September 12, 2021, 01:29:09 PM

People should not let advertising have such a strong effect on their lives, after all we all watch ads on television all the time and not because of that I buy all the stuff that is advertised on TV, when it comes to gambling people need to do their own due diligence and if they actually did then they will see that winning over the long term when you are gambling is very difficult, so their dreams of making money with gambling will die before they even have a chance to grow and then if they still want to gamble then they will be able to do it responsibly.

Actually, we can filter the ads on television as long as we take control of our lives and always take care of our families. If we are open-minded about something and always discuss it with our families, we will not have a problem in the future because we know that it is not good for us. When we already know that something is not good for us, we will have to increase our awareness, including other family members. We will always remind each other and help them if one of us has a problem in gambling and solve it together.

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Quote from: davis196 on September 13, 2021, 02:51:20 AM

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling.
My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere.
What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"?
Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble?
I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect.
In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only.
Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia.

Most likely, he meant that a person to access gambling must earn at least the minimum wage. It sounds quite logical - if you receive unemployment benefits, then you should not spend it on gambling, as in this case it turns out that taxpayers finance your entertainment. Another question is that it is hard enough to control.

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Quote from: davis196 on September 13, 2021, 02:51:20 AM

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble?

Uh no, he doesn't. Pretty sure what he meant was there should be a minimum wage criterion when allowing people to gamble. E.g, a person who has an annual income of $100,000 should be the ones that are allowed to gamble (stupid sample, but it works). It's rather understandable really, with it in place it restricts a LOT of people from gambling however, this puts a pause to the possible profits a casino could get. It's literally a law that's placed to inhibit them from profiting. It's rather different from the age requirement since it's basically applied to all ages now, compared to the below 18/21 kind of law.

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Quote from: davis196 on September 13, 2021, 02:51:20 AM

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling.
My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere.
What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"?
Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble?
I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect.
In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only.
Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia.

Minimum wages will not help to reduce the global increase in gambling addictions; it is still dependent on the individual's mentality. Even if it costs a lot of money, if a person is desperate for a small percentage win, they will do it because most of them are getting fomo'd and just gambling without thinking or analyzing the situation they're in. Actually, USA made a good choice of having a specific area where they can gamble so then people will not just go around, play gamble anytime they want and get addicted to it since gambling was purposely made for entertainment with the involvement of money.

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling.
My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere.
What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"?
Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble?
I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect.
In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only.
Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia.

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Quote from: cabron on September 13, 2021, 01:09:37 AM

Small-time rollers in these areas are the ones that can not resist the temptation to bet due to their hopes of better days ahead through gambling. It's a place where the drugs and liquor businesses also thrive for these are the tools used to escape the reality of life in the depressed area.

These gambling outlets hired a marketing specialist who studied human behavior and what people in the depressed area do in relation to having jobs and casinos.

Drugs and liquor business will be there in such areas even without the casinos. Actually, if the casinos are established in such areas, then the drug/alcohol trade will actually go down (due to heightened surveillance). And the argument that small-time rollers would gamble more is laughable. If someone want to gamble, then he will do that. For him, it doesn't matter if the casino is located 2 km away, or 200 km away. Anyway, these are not the issues for which casinos should be held responsible. These are social issues for which the government is responsible.

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state?

the government should act but they shouldnt fully depend on it .
people on those places should know if what is good and what is bad, they should not gamble too much if they are poor because this can make them more poorer if they became addicted .

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I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

having a work and earning a minimum wage is better than the people that are hooked in gambling but have no source of income but budgeting must be practice and they should only gamble during their day offs and gamble only amounts that are excess .

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 12, 2021, 11:08:47 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on September 12, 2021, 05:12:25 PM

Those areas needed jobs more than in the affluent neighborhoods. So if they can cater the needs of these people as well as getting up their business up and running, why not? Also, they can easily get gamblers even small time rollers in these areas. Now, it is up to the gambler how he will address his gambling habits because it is not the responsibility of the casino itself. What they are after is to survive their business and generate income as much as they can.

Spot on!

Some people have issues with each and every productive activity. Gambling business is 100% legal, and they pay their taxes to the government and generate a number of direct and indirect jobs. When rich gamblers visit these casinos, they are likley to visit the neighboring businesses (supermarkets, restaurants, taxis.etc) as well. Overall, I believe that such legal businesses do more good than harm. If someone is protesting against such business, then be sure that in 90% of the cases he is having some ulterior motive.

Small-time rollers in these areas are the ones that can not resist the temptation to bet due to their hopes of better days ahead through gambling. It's a place where the drugs and liquor businesses also thrive for these are the tools used to escape the reality of life in the depressed area.

These gambling outlets hired a marketing specialist who studied human behavior and what people in the depressed area do in relation to having jobs and casinos.

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Quote from: tippytoes on September 12, 2021, 05:12:25 PM

Those areas needed jobs more than in the affluent neighborhoods. So if they can cater the needs of these people as well as getting up their business up and running, why not? Also, they can easily get gamblers even small time rollers in these areas. Now, it is up to the gambler how he will address his gambling habits because it is not the responsibility of the casino itself. What they are after is to survive their business and generate income as much as they can.

Spot on!

Some people have issues with each and every productive activity. Gambling business is 100% legal, and they pay their taxes to the government and generate a number of direct and indirect jobs. When rich gamblers visit these casinos, they are likley to visit the neighboring businesses (supermarkets, restaurants, taxis.etc) as well. Overall, I believe that such legal businesses do more good than harm. If someone is protesting against such business, then be sure that in 90% of the cases he is having some ulterior motive.

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No need for such deep and technical discussion. There is nothing wrong with those gambling establishments stationed in those deprived areas. Don't even consider them as a public enemy that lures everyone into gambling. It's no different when people deal with other sinful activities like drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, etc.

It's not just about the job opportunities but the fact that these establishments are present in those deprived areas means that the place does not really have that poverty standard of living since establishments are generating good revenues. There are even no reports of mass gambling addiction in that area or if have (maybe just not reported), can still tolerate or being controlled.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 10, 2021, 11:10:54 PM

It is not right to blame the casino for that. For every gambler who gets addicted and play irresponsibly, there will be 20 others who will be doing that in a responsible manner. So the question is whether it is right to punish the other 20 people for the fault of one individual.

The government has given these gambling casinos license not for people to get addicted and make their lives miserable, it is an income and job-generating business, besides the tax, it generates jobs and sustains business within the casinos, it is not only a place to gamble and for people to get entertained but a part that sustain the country's economy, one example is Las Vegas and Macau it's not right to blame casinos they help the economy and help people to get entertained as well.

Those areas needed jobs more than in the affluent neighborhoods. So if they can cater the needs of these people as well as getting up their business up and running, why not? Also, they can easily get gamblers even small time rollers in these areas. Now, it is up to the gambler how he will address his gambling habits because it is not the responsibility of the casino itself. What they are after is to survive their business and generate income as much as they can.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 10, 2021, 11:10:54 PM

It is not right to blame the casino for that. For every gambler who gets addicted and play irresponsibly, there will be 20 others who will be doing that in a responsible manner. So the question is whether it is right to punish the other 20 people for the fault of one individual.

The government has given these gambling casinos license not for people to get addicted and make their lives miserable, it is an income and job-generating business, besides the tax, it generates jobs and sustains business within the casinos, it is not only a place to gamble and for people to get entertained but a part that sustain the country's economy, one example is Las Vegas and Macau it's not right to blame casinos they help the economy and help people to get entertained as well.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 12, 2021, 06:15:56 AM

Because the reach people have good source of earning, they do not rely on gambling at all not to talk of getting addicted if compared to average people.

Right, most rich people have their own different sources of income and they don't wholly rely on gambling. And into those deprived areas, most people there are average people and they can't help themselves but gamble with the belief that they'll be uplifting their lives easily.

Quote from: michellee on September 10, 2021, 10:14:26 AM

It needs more discussion between the government, the casino owner, and people from that area to get a win-win solution.

IMO, it is impossible or highly unlikely to make a win-win situation that includes gambling and concern about the people that are gamblers too.

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But I don't really support teen gambling as their main way of earning. Do not let this become the foundation of the economic axis and so on as the foundation. Because like most people addiction is not a good thing, not only in gambling, anything in excess will have bad consequences later in life.
You know how gambling takes all possessions at one time. Therefore, gambling as entertainment is the right choice.

If people realize the risk of playing gambling, they will not use gambling to make money and will not try to get involved in gambling. But unfortunately, many young generations get into the gambling trap because they see many advertisements that tell them how to get easy and fast money. Slowly, they become addicted without realizing it and will be in a hard situation to stop gambling or play gambling because of money. Gambling can takes all that we have unless we know how to treat gambling carefully.

People should not let advertising have such a strong effect on their lives, after all we all watch ads on television all the time and not because of that I buy all the stuff that is advertised on TV, when it comes to gambling people need to do their own due diligence and if they actually did then they will see that winning over the long term when you are gambling is very difficult, so their dreams of making money with gambling will die before they even have a chance to grow and then if they still want to gamble then they will be able to do it responsibly.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 06, 2021, 04:15:19 PM

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

There is nothing that should be done than letting people to know how gambling can be very risky, making sure under 18 do not gamble. They can make gambling more regulated and restricted but people will be the ones that will be complaining that the government are not giving them freedom. For example, anyone that is not earning should not gamble and also only 5% or less of their monthly wages or salary can be used for gambling, this law will be good if monitored but people will say it is lack of freedom on their own money, people are difficult to handle.

Restrictive regulations are indeed very important, because they are not in accordance with the realm of children who are still under 18 years of age. But of course the control of gambling cannot be supervised on a comprehensive scale. For example, by limiting them, young people better understand where to run and look for safe gambling without KYC.

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