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Quote from: YOSHIE on September 07, 2021, 11:53:19 PM

this is a good point, for their economic growth, the government should call in all the companies that employ people in the region and make laws with proper wages that are appropriate in england, it is to prevent them from engaging in gambling more broadly, decent living and wages and strict laws will reduce them in gambling activities.

One of the promotion when a gambling establishments were going to construct in a low economic area was to create and give the residents of the area a job where they can make their daily living. Here in my country, we are being glad whenever a businessman wanted to put a business establishments in our area because it only means that it could generate a job even if it is a gambling business but I always come to think about the pros and cons of this. Pros are they could generate a job for the residents and cons was those people who are really into gambling would be more likely willing to admit themselves in gambling activities even if they are only made a living for their family in a exact cost.

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Thing is, gambling firms will always target these poverty-stricken areas be it by the private gambling firms, or the government itself. Ever wondered why there are places in the US that has spots that offer more Powerball lottery tickets compared to other spots? It's because they specifically target the poor's desperation to get rich. And seeing as the poor don't see the cumulative value of spending $2 per ticket, they easily get baited by the bleak promise of earning so much money in one sitting.

Quote from: bitzizzix on September 07, 2021, 10:30:35 PM

I think gambling outlets in poor areas will have two purposes, I mean it will bring luck or income fields or jobs because with gambling outlets poor people can work, and also there are those who open businesses and also serve or offer gambling related services and also security services everyone who brings a vehicle and so on.
because things like that exist in my area where the majority of the population is the lower middle class and many open businesses or trade and serve anything that can produce and there are also most of them individually who are poor play gambling and that's their right whatever it is is a risk they will receive, and also not a few who are lucky.
there is also a downside because poor people are easily influenced and involved in gambling which makes them worse off.

Thing is that the "luck" you're talking about is so low they might as well get up and go to their regular jobs instead. The odds of winning in a Powerball and any type of sweepstakes for that matter is lower than say you getting struck by lightning or you getting murdered. This is sad but reality is often disappointing. Most of the times the people who do set up businesses there also spend a portion of their earnings gambling so nothing much is being given back to the people sadly.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

How should they go about controlling these things?

law enforcement and the UK government should go directly to this location/territory and investigate who is behind all this/gambling companies and take strong action against them.

Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state?

It should be, yes, if the gambling arena in that area destroys some of the morale of the people in that area, because the majority are poor, it can harm them in criminal acts, the government must be strict in laws to protect its people, it must.

Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

this is a good point, for their economic growth, the government should call in all the companies that employ people in the region and make laws with proper wages that are appropriate in england, it is to prevent them from engaging in gambling more broadly, decent living and wages and strict laws will reduce them in gambling activities.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 07, 2021, 11:43:24 AM

As an individual, we should also take responsibility of our actions. We shouldn't blame everything on gambling alone but on the decisions that we're making. If people in the UK would be wise then they shouldn't allow scammers to scam them by being skeptical and learning how to control themselves when it comes to gambling for it will harm them as well as the entire economy.

sometimes we can blame those individual that encourage us to gambling when they did not even let us understand the nature of this game and how to rightfully deal with it.

though it is a wrong attitude yet they must teach us not only to gamble but how to find escape when the eagerness comes and addiction is indeed.

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Sad to hear that the deprived areas where low income people lives are the gambling capital .

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I think gambling outlets in poor areas will have two purposes, I mean it will bring luck or income fields or jobs because with gambling outlets poor people can work, and also there are those who open businesses and also serve or offer gambling related services and also security services everyone who brings a vehicle and so on.
because things like that exist in my area where the majority of the population is the lower middle class and many open businesses or trade and serve anything that can produce and there are also most of them individually who are poor play gambling and that's their right whatever it is is a risk they will receive, and also not a few who are lucky.
there is also a downside because poor people are easily influenced and involved in gambling which makes them worse off.

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When i was still addicted in gambling , there is some place outside the city that i visited in which they have illegal casino operation.

When i try to visit and play , you can see that almost all the gamblers are people in which in lower level of living and they find the place because the casino offers much little funds require to play and that made them more active there.

this same scenario in what OP is pointing that most gamblers in that region are poor but they are the most addicted one.

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It is therefore the same with developing countries and developed countries when it comes to gambling companies preying more on the economically inferior segment of the population. If this is true both in my country, a developing one, and in the UK, a highly developed one, there must be something more to this than just pure coincidence.

I guess it matters significantly that gambling is offered to the particular portion of the population who wishes to get out of their economic difficulties the easy way. There must be more money in doing business with them. I think luck sells more easily to poor people than rich ones.

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This is given fact mate in which the poorest places are the most addicted into all vices , like liquor , gambling ,cigarettes , womanizing and even Drugs.

in the world record those are the most affected as they are the desperate people in which hiding in vices their desperation and burden.

That's why I've said that they're the poorest in the country. I mean that's what's the government wants to, a disorganized and ignorant poor public so they can continue to control the people because with poor people around, there's nothing that the middle class can do to topple the 1% since the top can always use the bottom to their means, they just need someone desperate enough to do their bidding.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

It's cheaper if they set up their outlets on these areas and besides some of their staff and employers are living here and they want to be in a place where they can attract more bettors regardless if they are rich or poor, they do not differentiate

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Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

Gambling companies are targetting who can play and who wants to play regardless of economic status

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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think?

I don't think they will create one, it's discrimination, they only want people who can and wants to play and don't discriminate on the status of those who want to play.

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They don't have to ban it but they have to regulate it and control on how many should operate in depressed areas. Knowing that life isn't easy there, they should also teach people living there how important it is to be wise with their expenditures.
Because if not, they will really become addicted to gambling and they can no longer control and help themselves. It's okay if they're regulated so that there's still control and at least the education that they only have to gamble what they can afford to lose.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

I don't think that it's a good idea to jump to conclusions with these things.

It simply may be that these areas have the biggest population, not that the casinos are actually trying to target them and "get them addicted".

Whilst that's the convenient explanation, it helps to remember that correlation is not equal to causation unless you establish a definite causal link.

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Quote from: dbc23 on September 07, 2021, 12:26:47 PM

Placing a ban on this gambling companies will not stop them from gambling. My suggestion is if the government can set-up an avenue where the engage the residents of these deprived areas with something development that can attract investors and also put stricter rules that would certainly not favour this gambling outlets this way most of the outlet would fold up over time and gradually this deprived areas would be just as anyother area

Businesses in a deprived area can be a good source of money to that City, and maybe this is why they accept those casinos and let them operate, I’m pretty sure those casinos are complying with the requirements of the government as long as you are operating legal, at any place you are good. Cost of operation might also be the reason why those casinos started on that place, if you’re a poor people better not to gamble at all since this is our personal choice and we can’t control those people not to gamble, i just hope they are being guided.

If those companies didn't see the opportunity on that area, they'll not put up the casinos there since we all know some gamblers still want to gamble with security of course but if its located in the most deprived area where security can be a concern, then the target gamblers of that casinos are not the high end gamblers, they are more into lower class who wants to try gambling. Yes, if the government allows that we cannot do anything about it and in my country, there's a lot of casinos in most of the deprived areas as well.

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Quote from: dbc23 on September 07, 2021, 12:26:47 PM

Placing a ban on this gambling companies will not stop them from gambling. My suggestion is if the government can set-up an avenue where the engage the residents of these deprived areas with something development that can attract investors and also put stricter rules that would certainly not favour this gambling outlets this way most of the outlet would fold up over time and gradually this deprived areas would be just as anyother area

Businesses in a deprived area can be a good source of money to that City, and maybe this is why they accept those casinos and let them operate, I’m pretty sure those casinos are complying with the requirements of the government as long as you are operating legal, at any place you are good. Cost of operation might also be the reason why those casinos started on that place, if you’re a poor people better not to gamble at all since this is our personal choice and we can’t control those people not to gamble, i just hope they are being guided.

something that happens a lot in Brazil but probably similar in many parts of the world is that poor people lack financial education
teaching all to leave below their means and invest would already be a big deal

definitely better to stay away of gambling at least before having enough spare income to spend

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

It's a hard call for any government really - if they limit it then the local councils don't get that tax money, lose a few more jobs, end up with a bunch more empty shops and the "punters" will just end up doing the same thing online. There is a very fine balance to walk, they need to regulate what happens within the shop and try to stop any problem gamblers from being created. Make sure people can self exclude (which should apply country wide) and not be able to up their betting by too much (max £100 increase per day for example). You should not ban the shops entirely, because as with American prohibition we see it just gets driven underground, but sensible steps can be taken to make it safer.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

I remember recently there was a thread around that subject.
They build most gambling outlets in poor areas because in poor areas, higher percentage of people are uneducated / unemployed and this directly indicates that they are more likely to gamble and it's true in reality.
In some countries, basically you can't take a loan if you are unemployeed and if you are employeed, the monthly payment shouldn't be more than 20-30% of your monthly salary.
If the same thing will be implemented on gambling - Accounts locked for unemployeed and employeed will be able to spend max 10-20% of salary, it will show some positive sign but after all, in the era of information technologies and a lot of possibilities, these kind of regulations won't have any significant effect.

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Quote from: semobo on September 07, 2021, 06:12:48 AM

Gambling is not scamming so we need to be clear about it, anyone can start their business anywhere as long as the aws allows them to do it and business people knows that who are their customers so they can make more money. I don't really understand that why someone has to gamble with all their daily wages if they can't afford to lose it.

even though it sounds bad the fact is that it is, gambling is indeed not a good thing but we can't judge the perpetrators who founded there are bad people, back to the beginning, they set up a business and business people certainly want profits from their business do.
the problem is greed that makes gambling addicts risk all their money there, hoping they want to get more things without realizing they have actually been carried away by their lust in greed which leads to the losses they get.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

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I don't believe the government is doing its job because, based on what I've read, there isn't anything illegal in their near area. We won't be able to do much with this, so we should treat it as if we were giving advice to people out there, because we all know that they will become addicted to it, which is exactly what most of the owners want because it will allow them to make a lot of money. They are not targeting those in need in our country because they will not benefit much from it, but when we talk about illegal gambling, there are a lot of them.

Does it really need some effort or action or job by the government on this manner?

These casinos are heavily regulate or does follow government rules and regulations and its just that considerable that they would really be allowing any actions as long theyre registered or does have permits

then government would really take any involvement since they do get some good amount of tax with these kind of businesses.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

I don't believe the government is doing its job because, based on what I've read, there isn't anything illegal in their near area. We won't be able to do much with this, so we should treat it as if we were giving advice to people out there, because we all know that they will become addicted to it, which is exactly what most of the owners want because it will allow them to make a lot of money. They are not targeting those in need in our country because they will not benefit much from it, but when we talk about illegal gambling, there are a lot of them.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 07, 2021, 11:43:24 AM

As an individual, we should also take responsibility of our actions. We shouldn't blame everything on gambling alone but on the decisions that we're making. If people in the UK would be wise then they shouldn't allow scammers to scam them by being skeptical and learning how to control themselves when it comes to gambling for it will harm them as well as the entire economy.

Exactly. That is why if we want to play gambling for the first time, we must know the risk of gambling. But unfortunately, most people do not think seriously and think about how they can win more. People really need to learn how to identify the scammer's ways to trick them so they can avoid it before it is too late. If people can know how the scammers will trick them, they will not lose their money. But the UK government should warn the casino owner not to open their business in poor areas because that can negatively impact them.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Here it is folks. Want to know if you are poor? The number of gambling outlets in your vicinity. Well, I think in these areas there will be a high number of problem gamblers. The crime-rate will be high too because of course for someone who is experiencing withdrawal symptoms because he or she has no money to gamble is most likely to engage in one social vice or the order to get money to satisfy the urge. Also, I believe why there are more gambling outlets in poor arears is because the poor would engage in gambling as a form of escapism and a sort of coping mechanism. To cope with the stress of the work, their meager salary and other social and family issues. These folks need help. They need saving.

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