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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 12, 2021, 10:11:22 AM

I am not sure whether these figures are closer to reality, but even in this case I would say that it is wrong to punish the other 80% for what the 20% does. Anyway, it is not up to the government. If they ban the legal gambling joints, then the gamblers will just move underground and visit the illegal gambling dens. Is this what the authorities want? They will lose tax revenue, and there is a higher chance of gamblers getting defrauded. The solution is not to close down casinos. The solution is to monitor the gamblers, and to help those who need it.

You have a rational and fair view of this problem and you think the government has the same rational view. But in reality, the government is not interested in a real solution to the problem - they are only interested in the endless aggravation of problems in order to expand their powers and justify their existence.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 12, 2021, 09:44:44 AM

If people realize the risk of playing gambling, they will not use gambling to make money and will not try to get involved in gambling. But unfortunately, many young generations get into the gambling trap because they see many advertisements that tell them how to get easy and fast money. Slowly, they become addicted without realizing it and will be in a hard situation to stop gambling or play gambling because of money. Gambling can takes all that we have unless we know how to treat gambling carefully.

The accessibility of crypto gambling now is way to easy that many young ones are able to play it and use it as well the putting of money to play is now easier there is no need for verification at all. Gambling areas now were too many to control individual to go there. What we just need is to have discipline and let the people we know have control of what might happen if they don't discipline themselves.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 12, 2021, 07:15:56 AM

According to an article I read a long time ago in 2019, I read out of 100% of people that are gambling, that 20% are likely to be addicted, which means 1:5 as against to 1:20.

Because the reach people have good source of earning, they do not rely on gambling at all not to talk of getting addicted if compared to average people.

I am not sure whether these figures are closer to reality, but even in this case I would say that it is wrong to punish the other 80% for what the 20% does. Anyway, it is not up to the government. If they ban the legal gambling joints, then the gamblers will just move underground and visit the illegal gambling dens. Is this what the authorities want? They will lose tax revenue, and there is a higher chance of gamblers getting defrauded. The solution is not to close down casinos. The solution is to monitor the gamblers, and to help those who need it.

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Quote from: haidil on September 10, 2021, 02:45:00 PM

But I don't really support teen gambling as their main way of earning. Do not let this become the foundation of the economic axis and so on as the foundation. Because like most people addiction is not a good thing, not only in gambling, anything in excess will have bad consequences later in life.
You know how gambling takes all possessions at one time. Therefore, gambling as entertainment is the right choice.

If people realize the risk of playing gambling, they will not use gambling to make money and will not try to get involved in gambling. But unfortunately, many young generations get into the gambling trap because they see many advertisements that tell them how to get easy and fast money. Slowly, they become addicted without realizing it and will be in a hard situation to stop gambling or play gambling because of money. Gambling can takes all that we have unless we know how to treat gambling carefully.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 11, 2021, 12:10:54 AM

Gambling can never be a form of earning. It can be treated as a form of entertainment or socializing, but never as a job or career.

When I was reading what can lead to gambling addiction, one of the reasons is because addicts do not have a good source of income while some is as a result of seeing gambling as an alternative ways or even the main way to earn money, but this is wrong, gambling should just be for the fun of it as we always say on this forum.

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Gambling responsibly, in my opinion is the duty of the gambler. It is not right to blame the casino for that. For every gambler who gets addicted and play irresponsibly, there will be 20 others who will be doing that in a responsible manner.

According to an article I read a long time ago in 2019, I read out of 100% of people that are gambling, that 20% are likely to be addicted, which means 1:5 as against to 1:20.

Because the reach people have good source of earning, they do not rely on gambling at all not to talk of getting addicted if compared to average people.

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Quote from: haidil on September 10, 2021, 02:45:00 PM

But I don't really support teen gambling as their main way of earning. Do not let this become the foundation of the economic axis and so on as the foundation. Because like most people addiction is not a good thing, not only in gambling, anything in excess will have bad consequences later in life.
You know how gambling takes all possessions at one time. Therefore, gambling as entertainment is the right choice.

Gambling can never be a form of earning. It can be treated as a form of entertainment or socializing, but never as a job or career. And you are right when you mention about addiction towards gambling. But the question is who should be held accountable for that. Gambling responsibly, in my opinion is the duty of the gambler. It is not right to blame the casino for that. For every gambler who gets addicted and play irresponsibly, there will be 20 others who will be doing that in a responsible manner. So the question is whether it is right to punish the other 20 people for the fault of one individual.

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That's their biggest customer and the government knows it, if they ban those places for the prevention of this poor communities to gamble then there's going to be less revenue for the gambling houses and less revenue means less taxes for the government and if they intervene, it's going to spawn the problem of rampant illegal gambling and loan sharking so their on the safest bet there is when it comes to this kind of thing.

I don't think so, locals can still accept gambling there and they can work there earning a lot of money from rich people who often provide incentives. It is quite realistic if the place there has a permit from the local government, even though it was met with initial resistance. Over time, casino involvement can bring them more income, as long as they don't risk poor people's money to gamble.

Locals will always see gambling as an easier way of earning money without stress, by engaging in it, of course people would have to make ends meet, unfortunately there are people who are not ready to work for the rich thus prefers to gamble and earn money, I believe as far as those locals are gambling and making extra money that is why those gambling outlets are also thriving, personally I don't think there is any harm in using those outlets to gamble provided that the locals are not addicted to it,
In my country the unemployed youths took to gambling to cushion the effect of joblessness.

But I don't really support teen gambling as their main way of earning. Do not let this become the foundation of the economic axis and so on as the foundation. Because like most people addiction is not a good thing, not only in gambling, anything in excess will have bad consequences later in life.
You know how gambling takes all possessions at one time. Therefore, gambling as entertainment is the right choice.

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Gambling is most prevalent in the most deprived areas of the UK because it attracts tourists and the government may have plans to build a legal casino in the future at some point. In spite of all the adversities if the government the businessmen the participating gamblers are respectful of the regulations then a country can legally run the casino business profitably. The need for such businesses is high at the stage of social change and most of their income depends on playing casinos.

But it is better if they do not risk their people becoming active gamblers because that can turn them addicted to gambling. And once that happens, the government needs to prepare if the number of addicted people can increase anytime. Despite making much money from gambling, they need to think about their people and not create another problem. It needs more discussion between the government, the casino owner, and people from that area to get a win-win solution.

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Now, you said that they only need to warn them about the harmful effects of it, but I hope you know already that it is not enough to stop people from playing gambling. So the next question would be "Is it poor people's fault if they engage gambling?" the answer would be yes, because we, people like to risk anything especially if we don't have any choice to survive.

Well, that's the same thing as the companies that produces tobacco cigarettes. We all know what harmful effects cigarette can cause to our body but the government can't stop these companies because the people keeps patronising it and taxes coming from these companies are a big contribution to the economy and that's exactly the same as the casinos. The only thing that companies can do is to warn people about the danger of excessive smoking or gambling. That's how business works and every risks ahead from gambling or smoking will always be your responsibility.

Quote from: AicecreaME on September 09, 2021, 07:22:18 AM

Second, "Is it gambling business fault?" Well, for me there's a part where they could be blame because of being provocative on building a casino in a very deprived area, you know what I mean.

I agree to this. There is always the right place for gambling space.
I've seen similar scenario about small time gambling space in my country and most of them were located in a poor places.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on September 08, 2021, 07:36:04 PM

Doesn't seem to be the case in other countries.

Most other countries have zones in which casinos/junket operators exclusively operate in, and these zones generally have a lot of public infrastructure and development due to the tax revenues that they bring in.

Not sure why this applies to the UK to be honest.

Because they most likely have slum area people as the biggest customer for their casinos and by far the most loyal, that's why they're in there. Well, there are some countries that doesn't have that because they tried and reclaim the lands there to build those casinos and they mainly focus on tourism since that's more money.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on September 07, 2021, 12:36:03 PM

That's their biggest customer and the government knows it, if they ban those places for the prevention of this poor communities to gamble then there's going to be less revenue for the gambling houses and less revenue means less taxes for the government and if they intervene, it's going to spawn the problem of rampant illegal gambling and loan sharking so their on the safest bet there is when it comes to this kind of thing.

I don't think so, locals can still accept gambling there and they can work there earning a lot of money from rich people who often provide incentives. It is quite realistic if the place there has a permit from the local government, even though it was met with initial resistance. Over time, casino involvement can bring them more income, as long as they don't risk poor people's money to gamble.

Locals will always see gambling as an easier way of earning money without stress, by engaging in it, of course people would have to make ends meet, unfortunately there are people who are not ready to work for the rich thus prefers to gamble and earn money, I believe as far as those locals are gambling and making extra money that is why those gambling outlets are also thriving, personally I don't think there is any harm in using those outlets to gamble provided that the locals are not addicted to it,
In my country the unemployed youths took to gambling to cushion the effect of joblessness.

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Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Gambling in UK is legal they are not scamming people these are legit companies and they are licensed the government has no control over where the gambling companies are going to set up their shop, they can only warn people about the harmful effects of gambling, gambling companies or any business want their location in a strategic place, where people are very easy to locate them and transportation is accessible.

OP didn't say it is illegal, what he was trying to say is that it is in the wrong place because of poor people. Now, you said that they only need to warn them about the harmful effects of it, but I hope you know already that it is not enough to stop people from playing gambling. So the next question would be "Is it poor people's fault if they engage gambling?" the answer would be yes, because we, people like to risk anything especially if we don't have any choice to survive.

Second, "Is it gambling business fault?" Well, for me there's a part where they could be blame because of being provocative on building a casino in a very deprived area, you know what I mean.

You are right, but there is a great precedent, people who enter gambling enter because they like it and because they want to, they know the risks that exist and that gambling carries and still enter, it does not matter if it is poor or No, they just play and have fun, the risks if they fall into addiction is not the fault of the sites, because it is not capturing underage people, it is capturing people of legal age and who know very well what they are getting into, if a the poor attracts them is under their own responsibility, in games of chance both rich and poor are equal.

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No matter what the regulation and also punishment that the government has tried to implement, addicted people will still go on, a businessman of this will also still go on.
getting more and more victims to be addicted to them can be the main purpose of the businesses.
It is cruel, but in fact, that's the reality.
If the country is brave enough to implement the regulation and punishment not only to the people but also to the business companies, it may be able to decrease, but of course, need strict regulation and implementation.
But of course, it can not stop the whole, only to decrease.

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Quote from: btc78 on September 09, 2021, 05:30:48 AM

How come that there is elimination need to happen? the topic stands about the idea in which the most deprived areas are the highest gambling outlet .

maybe gambling operator/owner find that it is more profitable and worth having business in that area than on those popular cities in which their operation earns a little .

as long as the gambling is not illegal i see no problem at all.

There's no need for eliminating gambling in those areas. Just as the other countries, they see gambling as a big contributor to their economy and with the taxes that it provides, they just can't stop all of those that are operating.

What they can do is to educate people in deprived areas that they have to gamble with control and don't just go with all the money that they earn in a single bet or within a single day of gambling.

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Well i agree that poor people do get rich by playing gambling but tell me the ratio of those people ? They are few only examples where people turn their fortunes by plating gambling. In most of the case, the reality is not the same. 99% of the people only lose their money and their life become more miserable than before.
We should remember one thing that there is no short cut to become rich in this world.

oh, yes, this is the exception not the rule
most will end up losing money, not even breaking even...

the most urgent thing all around the world is spreading financial seducation

in Brazil more than 60% of all families have debt
this is more than 100 million people

in one country alone.

big problem

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Quote from: Kittygalore on September 07, 2021, 12:36:03 PM

That's their biggest customer and the government knows it, if they ban those places for the prevention of this poor communities to gamble then there's going to be less revenue for the gambling houses and less revenue means less taxes for the government and if they intervene, it's going to spawn the problem of rampant illegal gambling and loan sharking so their on the safest bet there is when it comes to this kind of thing.

I don't think so, locals can still accept gambling there and they can work there earning a lot of money from rich people who often provide incentives. It is quite realistic if the place there has a permit from the local government, even though it was met with initial resistance. Over time, casino involvement can bring them more income, as long as they don't risk poor people's money to gamble.

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Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Gambling in UK is legal they are not scamming people these are legit companies and they are licensed the government has no control over where the gambling companies are going to set up their shop, they can only warn people about the harmful effects of gambling, gambling companies or any business want their location in a strategic place, where people are very easy to locate them and transportation is accessible.

We wouldnt know that those are government-driven casinos. Cheesy

Well its just understandable that they would be targeting out those kind of places due to possible more clients or players

since they are the ones who could really play even more than to those rich people since they do aim up for earning money on fastest time as possible which it is just normal that they would

really be thinking off that way or would really be having that kind of mindset and not to underestimate but poor people do really have this kind of perception in mind.

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Ohh this is actually very harmful to the society long-term. When you target a specific group of people towards an activity which is highly addicting, it only means one thing- profit for the business owners. Now, if you talk about the unprivileged sector of society, this may not only harm their livelihood but this would cascade into much more bigger problem in the future.

I do hope that the government can somehow intervene in this process by implementing a higher tax rates on these business establishments.

Yes this kind of bahaviors is morally critical.But If we look deep, i think those deprived areas in UK (like many other deprived areas in the world) are also the target for other industries like tobacco and alcohol, which would also harm the people's livehood (industry of addiction). So it's not an exclusivity for gambling companies to focus on those areas.

Applying new restrictions for gambling houses won't only harm those businesses but a large part of the global economy. However, those restrictions may be useless as the gambling companies can just leave those areas then offer to users a mobile app with all the features he used to find in a concrete gambling outlet. Also think about gamblers from those deprived areas when limit the activities of his favorite passtime game .

Aside from maybe cheaper rental fees of these casinos to that type of area, they can easily find patrons because if there are more people who have no jobs, they tend to go to the casino and try their luck to get some winnings. On the other hand, they can offer jobs to these people. Now, it boils down to how these people will really use these casinos to their advantage. But of course, these casinos are mainly for their profit. If they are not getting good profit, I guess, they can easily close down and move to another place.

If i am not wrong, gambling outlets are the machines of gambling and not a real casino. And according to the study (check link in op), the number of those outlets is the highest in the deprived areas. While i can guess that real casinos are pened in the luxious cities. This means that those casinos only put their outlets in those areas without the need to open a dedicated place for gambling, means it won't help people to find a job for instance.
Note that jobless people prefer gambling to get a few profit and once they win they won't stop gambling. It's a vicious circle.
This situation can last forever without complaints, except for human ressources experts who may find that the bahavioral addiction to gambling of the people living in those areas disrupt the developement .

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 06, 2021, 12:50:44 PM

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Gambling in UK is legal they are not scamming people these are legit companies and they are licensed the government has no control over where the gambling companies are going to set up their shop, they can only warn people about the harmful effects of gambling, gambling companies or any business want their location in a strategic place, where people are very easy to locate them and transportation is accessible.

OP didn't say it is illegal, what he was trying to say is that it is in the wrong place because of poor people. Now, you said that they only need to warn them about the harmful effects of it, but I hope you know already that it is not enough to stop people from playing gambling. So the next question would be "Is it poor people's fault if they engage gambling?" the answer would be yes, because we, people like to risk anything especially if we don't have any choice to survive.

Second, "Is it gambling business fault?" Well, for me there's a part where they could be blame because of being provocative on building a casino in a very deprived area, you know what I mean.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 08, 2021, 04:22:16 AM

Actually the history of gambling in England has been going on for centuries, so it will be very difficult for the British government to eliminate or prohibit its people from gambling today, from several existing cases, gambling in England occurs due to the lifestyle of the people who are too high but their income is small, thus triggering them to gamble because it is a shortcut for them to become rich.

They cannot do that it will be met by strong opposition from the gambling community which is a huge community, they can only warn people and educate them on the many risks of too much involvement in gambling, and besides they are generating revenues from taxing these gambling companies, it's futile banning gambling in a country that is democratic.

How come that there is elimination need to happen? the topic stands about the idea in which the most deprived areas are the highest gambling outlet .

maybe gambling operator/owner find that it is more profitable and worth having business in that area than on those popular cities in which their operation earns a little .

as long as the gambling is not illegal i see no problem at all.

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