... especially with the conflict against Putin.
If Putin sitting back and twiddling his thumbs is a conflict, I hate to see real action.
As for Vietnam after napalm - we've seen another such indoctrination - in Japan, after the nukes.
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If Putin sitting back and twiddling his thumbs is a conflict, I hate to see real action.
As for Vietnam after napalm - we've seen another such indoctrination - in Japan, after the nukes.
Washing will choose its interest. In this case I guess they will keep certain cooperation with Vietnam, just enough to send China some necessary messages without pissing China off while strengthening their support to Philippine.
US will not unilaterally jump in a war with China. No way. A smart move is they will wait for some country or UN to start first, then they will join. Then presently US will wait and see.
There is nothing can block china right now being it the UN or any other country, China/Russia double veto will block any move, while no country especially the US would want to piss China, Economy is a strong weapon in hand of China, and isolating china will just make it closer to the Russia and will create a new Pole US will not unilaterally jump in a war with China. No way. A smart move is they will wait for some country or UN to start first, then they will join. Then presently US will wait and see.
Washing will choose its interest. In this case I guess they will keep certain cooperation with Vietnam, just enough to send China some necessary messages without pissing China off while strengthening their support to Philippine.
US will not unilaterally jump in a war with China. No way. A smart move is they will wait for some country or UN to start first, then they will join. Then presently US will wait and see.
US will not unilaterally jump in a war with China. No way. A smart move is they will wait for some country or UN to start first, then they will join. Then presently US will wait and see.
... especially with the conflict against Putin.
If Putin sitting back and twiddling his thumbs is a conflict, I hate to see real action.
As for Vietnam after napalm - we've seen another such indoctrination - in Japan, after the nukes.
the website is an appreciated effort of the government for a democratic environment. Some people just go too far. Anyway I think many of them do some strange or funny things on purpose. For example this petition, it will not ring a bell in the white house but it will definitely raise hate of Chinese to people who petition against them, in this case it is Vietnamese.
Interesting. But if it comes down to a choice, who do you think the US gov will choose? The Vietnamese government or the Chinese government?Despite the infamous history of the Vietnam War, Vietnam today is one of the most pro-American countries in Asia, with 71% of Vietnamese people viewing the U.S. favorably in 2002.
Vietnamese students form the 8th largest group of international students studying in the United States, representing 2% of all foreigners pursuing higher education in America.
No matter how you look at it, today Vietnam is totally an Ally to US and they need Allies now all the more especially with the conflict against Putin.
the website is an appreciated effort of the government for a democratic environment. Some people just go too far. Anyway I think many of them do some strange or funny things on purpose. For example this petition, it will not ring a bell in the white house but it will definitely raise hate of Chinese to people who petition against them, in this case it is Vietnamese.
Rigon I would like to emphasize that the international press calls those islands and rocks "in dispute", and so far no verdict has been released with respect to legal sovereignty by any court. So the addressing of the name "Vietnam" in the petition is specifying target for the hate of the chinese crowd. Then this move must not be from Vietnamese government unless they are insane (or stupid).the website itself declares they do not control how signature is made, which implies they accept fake accounts for signing.
the website is an appreciated effort of the government for a democratic environment. Some people just go too far. Anyway I think many of them do some strange or funny things on purpose. For example this petition, it will not ring a bell in the white house but it will definitely raise hate of Chinese to people who petition against them, in this case it is Vietnamese.
Interesting move:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/put-sanctions-china-invading-vietnam-territory-deployment-oil-rig-haiyang-981/p2b7Rnnv
This one is not only interesting but also ridiculous. People seem to get extreme. Is anybody here gonna sign it lol?
by the way this is the first time I see a petition for sanction (normally I have seen and signed many petitions requesting someone to stop something, not to punish someone else). Anybody has a precedent?
Someone please tell those people that if Obama could, it would be the first thing he does. Nobody wishes to stop China to become a superpower more than US does. Come one give me a break, life is not that easy.https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/put-sanctions-china-invading-vietnam-territory-deployment-oil-rig-haiyang-981/p2b7Rnnv
This one is not only interesting but also ridiculous. People seem to get extreme. Is anybody here gonna sign it lol?
by the way this is the first time I see a petition for sanction (normally I have seen and signed many petitions requesting someone to stop something, not to punish someone else). Anybody has a precedent?
It is funny that it is even showed in the petition that 100k signatures are adequate.
Imagine if they had succeeded. The people of Texas would have literally been 'kicked out' of the country by their own countrymen!
Anyway, that website is an official government website though. I can appreciate the government's effort to reach out to the people by having them make petitions. It is a solid approach to stay connected with the people. But this is the internet. There's simply too much dumbs.
China I would say the hard working culture is the main thing in this economic miracle of China ... Their family are lot different than ours (when I say ours I mean on normal US family) they respect more family and have different way of thinking , from childhood they re constantly fed by that how you can only by hard work and fair job make something in your life .
I'm not saying that in the US, families are not taught by the same thing , but they are lot different
I'm not saying that in the US, families are not taught by the same thing , but they are lot different
Interesting move:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/put-sanctions-china-invading-vietnam-territory-deployment-oil-rig-haiyang-981/p2b7Rnnv
This one is not only interesting but also ridiculous. People seem to get extreme. Is anybody here gonna sign it lol?
by the way this is the first time I see a petition for sanction (normally I have seen and signed many petitions requesting someone to stop something, not to punish someone else). Anybody has a precedent?
Ignoring all real political and economical reasons for US not to (or not be able to) put any sanction against China, the approach of this petition itself is ... allow me to say stupid. First of all this is for US people to raise their voice to their government and thus, of course, it should be (and must be) for the interest of US and its citizens, I mean direct interest. Those guys across the ocean better protect their land by themselves than waiting for a move of foreigners. The White House has enough worriness recently.https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/put-sanctions-china-invading-vietnam-territory-deployment-oil-rig-haiyang-981/p2b7Rnnv
This one is not only interesting but also ridiculous. People seem to get extreme. Is anybody here gonna sign it lol?
by the way this is the first time I see a petition for sanction (normally I have seen and signed many petitions requesting someone to stop something, not to punish someone else). Anybody has a precedent?
What a joke!
Wasn't it gong to be 480 payable by today for the coming month? 
I'm surprised that Russia managed to sell their gas to China at more than decent rates, considering the situation, I guess it's a win win situation for both Russia and China here, not to mention that if this deal is combined with the deal to pay each other in their own currencies and by pass the $ that's a double blow right there to the US of A
Edit: btw Russia still selling gas to Ukrain at 260$ rate ...
Edit: btw Russia still selling gas to Ukrain at 260$ rate ...
Here's Yatsenjuk's 1 billion dollar claim in English:
http://rt.com/business/161644-moscow-expects-ukraine-payment/
http://rt.com/business/161644-moscow-expects-ukraine-payment/
So now if they couldn't conquer them they will make them pay and eventually Ukraine will be full time economic slave to Russia. Future is pretty grim for them.
Paying for the gas makes them slaves of Russia? If I go by that definition, then almost all the nations in the European Union will become slaves to the Russian Federation. If they don't want to give money to the Russians, then don't use the gas. Very simple.
There are very simple resolutions for almost all human problems yet we are constantly fighting and making our problem even worse. And yes EU it to certain degree slave, every debt is some sort of slavery after all. Current economic system is build that way, only to deepen our debt.
So now if they couldn't conquer them they will make them pay and eventually Ukraine will be full time economic slave to Russia. Future is pretty grim for them.
Paying for the gas makes them slaves of Russia? If I go by that definition, then almost all the nations in the European Union will become slaves to the Russian Federation
Actually, you're correct!
But this is only half-true, since you become enslaved only when you have to pay and have nothing to get paid for. Otherwise it is called interdependence...
So now if they couldn't conquer them they will make them pay and eventually Ukraine will be full time economic slave to Russia. Future is pretty grim for them.
Paying for the gas makes them slaves of Russia? If I go by that definition, then almost all the nations in the European Union will become slaves to the Russian Federation. If they don't want to give money to the Russians, then don't use the gas. Very simple.
It's madness wrapped in schizophrenia with a touch of evil.
Right, there seems to be some headway:
Kiev negotiators agree to pay $2bn to Gazprom to cover part of gas debt
http://rt.com/business/161560-ukraine-must-pay-oettinger/
Right, there seems to be some headway:
Kiev negotiators agree to pay $2bn to Gazprom to cover part of gas debt
http://rt.com/business/161560-ukraine-must-pay-oettinger/
So now if they couldn't conquer them they will make them pay and eventually Ukraine will be full time economic slave to Russia. Future is pretty grim for them.
As opposed to what? Free gas?
Last time I checked Germany, Poland, Baltics, and other countries pay for the Russian gas. What makes Ukraine so exceptional?
It's madness wrapped in schizophrenia with a touch of evil.
Right, there seems to be some headway:
Kiev negotiators agree to pay $2bn to Gazprom to cover part of gas debt
http://rt.com/business/161560-ukraine-must-pay-oettinger/
Right, there seems to be some headway:
Kiev negotiators agree to pay $2bn to Gazprom to cover part of gas debt
http://rt.com/business/161560-ukraine-must-pay-oettinger/
So now if they couldn't conquer them they will make them pay and eventually Ukraine will be full time economic slave to Russia. Future is pretty grim for them.
It's madness wrapped in schizophrenia with a touch of evil.
Right, there seems to be some headway:
Kiev negotiators agree to pay $2bn to Gazprom to cover part of gas debt
http://rt.com/business/161560-ukraine-must-pay-oettinger/
Right, there seems to be some headway:
Kiev negotiators agree to pay $2bn to Gazprom to cover part of gas debt
http://rt.com/business/161560-ukraine-must-pay-oettinger/
I'm not even sure what I think about the situation anymore
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