Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike - page 21.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on May 09, 2014, 06:13:32 AM

I would not be surprised if one of the IMF conditions was that the money were not to be used to pay Russia for its gas.

In the short term Ukraine is going to be OK, I think. The South Stream pipeline might take a few more years to complete. After that, it is going to be a complete disaster. Russia will cut the gas flow, until all the debts are paid including the penalties.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on May 09, 2014, 06:13:32 AM

I would not be surprised if one of the IMF conditions was that the money were not to be used to pay Russia for its gas.

And they have the insolence to blame Gazprom for cutting off the gas supplies to Ukraine... Or, as a conspiracy theory, if there was such a condition (the money was not to be used to pay off the debt), the goal of the IMF could be to stifle Ukraine through Gazprom (no gas means no heavy industry and no exports) and make it into an eternal debtor (see Argentina)... Cool

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I would not be surprised if one of the IMF conditions was that the money were not to be used to pay Russia for its gas.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on May 09, 2014, 05:56:50 AM

Russia does not preclude that gas deliveries to Ukraine will be stopped.
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1562172&cid=6

"The main question now, is if Ukraine can use IMF-supplied loans to cover its gas debt and if those loans will be enough to cover the debt in its entirety."

I just can't understand if the IMF couldn't have made a loan to Ukraine on the condition that it would pay off the debt (or some part of)? Shocked

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Russia does not preclude that gas deliveries to Ukraine will be stopped.
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1562172&cid=6

"The main question now, is if Ukraine can use IMF-supplied loans to cover its gas debt and if those loans will be enough to cover the debt in its entirety."

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Russia to supply gas to Ukraine on prepaid basis from June 1

http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/730982

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Russia will supply natural gas to Ukraine on a prepaid basis from June 1, Energy Minister Alexander Novak said on Thursday, May 8. “May 7 was the last day when Ukraine had to pay for the gas supplied. We have not received any payment from Naftogaz of Ukraine since March of this year. Ukraine’s overall debt for gas has reached 3,508 billion U.S. dollars up to date,” he said. In accordance with Clauses 5.1.5 and 5.8 of the contract for the supply of gas made by and between Gazprom and Naftogaz of Ukraine in 2009, failure to perform the obligations entails an automatic transition to gas supplies on a prepaid basis from June 1, 2014, Novak said.

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Russia introduces the system of forward payment for gas for Ukraine:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/05/140508_rn_russia_ukraine_gas.shtml

While Lithuania gets significant rebates:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/economy/1799922.html

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Quote from: deisik on May 08, 2014, 10:49:09 AM

It is more interesting how the U.S. astronauts are going to get back to Earth from the station... Should they orchestrate a Maidan there, in space? Grin

How many US astronauts are there in the ISS right now? And how many Russians are there? Here is the plan. The Americans can take the Russians hostage, and ask the Roskosmos to send a rocket to transport them to some shitty location within the US.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 01, 2014, 10:31:49 AM

This is classic:

Russia tells the US to take astronauts to the International Space Station 'with the help of a trampoline' in Ukraine sanctions row Grin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2617111/Could-American-astronauts-left-STRANDED-International-Space-Station-Space-row-intensifies-Russian-officials-warn-Nasa-transport-astronauts-trampoline.html

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A deputy prime minister suggested that U.S. astronauts, who depend on Russian rockets to get to the International Space Station (ISS), use trampolines to reach it instead.

It is more interesting how the U.S. astronauts are going to get back to Earth from the station... Should they orchestrate a Maidan there, in space? Grin

By the way, Ukraine refused to pay in advance for the gas supplies in June... Cool

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Lithuania gas utility says agrees on gas price reduction with Gazprom

http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6N0NU46E20140508

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Lithuanian utility Lietuvos Dujos said it had reached a "significant reduction" in the price of gas supplied by Gazprom, a key dispute point between the Baltic state and Russia. "Lietuvos Dujos entered into an agreement with the supplier of natural gas Gazprom that involves a significant reduction in the price of natural gas imported by Lietuvos Dujos," the company said in a statement to the stock exchange in Vilnius, without disclosing the price.

Gazprom reportedly drops South Stream branch to Italy

http://www.neurope.eu/article/gazprom-reportedly-drops-south-stream-branch-italy

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Russian gas monopoly Gazprom has reportedly abandoned plans to build a section of the Russian-backed South Stream gas pipeline to Italy, a day after the Russian company opted for a South Stream pipeline branch to Austria. On 29 April, Gazprom and Austrian oil and gas company OMV signed a memorandum that foresees building a section of the giant pipeline from Hungary to OMV’s Central European Gas Hub near Vienna.

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Ukraine refuses to acknowledge its gas debt:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/08/nodebt/

Really?!

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Kiev again does not pay for the gas, after the April deadline has passed:
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1172374?utm_medium=rss20

Gazprom: Ukraine fails to pay its April gas bill
http://rt.com/business/157304-gazprom-ukraine-gas-deadline/

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This is classic:

Russia tells the US to take astronauts to the International Space Station 'with the help of a trampoline' in Ukraine sanctions row Grin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2617111/Could-American-astronauts-left-STRANDED-International-Space-Station-Space-row-intensifies-Russian-officials-warn-Nasa-transport-astronauts-trampoline.html

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A deputy prime minister suggested that U.S. astronauts, who depend on Russian rockets to get to the International Space Station (ISS), use trampolines to reach it instead.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on April 30, 2014, 02:55:55 PM

Russia sent a complaint to WTO against Europe's "third energy pack", which might force gas producers to relinquish control over pipes on European territory.

Doesn't matter much. The Nord stream is in the Baltic sea, and only a small portion runs through Germany. The proposed South Stream is also around 75% outside the European territory.

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The gas war continues, now in Europe and WTO:
http://www.forbes.ru/news/256295-rossiya-podala-v-vto-isk-protiv-tretego-energopaketa-evrosoyuza

Russia sent a complaint to WTO against Europe's "third energy pack", which might force gas producers to relinquish control over pipes on European territory.

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Meanwhile, business continues as usual for Gazprom. Grin

Gazprom to Build Pipeline to Austria as Gas Beats Tensions

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-29/gazprom-omv-agree-on-austria-endpoint-for-south-stream-pipeline.html

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As much as 32 billion cubic meters of gas a year will be delivered to Baumgarten, Austria, through a section of the South Stream pipeline, Vienna-based OMV said in a statement yesterday. The first gas deliveries are planned for 2017, under the memorandum of understanding the OMV Chief Executive Officer Gerhard Roiss and Gazprom CEO Alexey Miller signed in Moscow.

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Ukrainian citizens will pay 56% more for gas, starting 1st of May. This is the decision reached by Ukrainian cabinet of Ministers aimed at satisfying IMF demand to qualify to receive economic help.

http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2014/04/30/n_6121577.shtml

Absurdity!

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Yatseniuk joking once again... lol.. this guy is so thick.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/ukraine-crisis-gazprom-idUSL6N0NK3O820140428

Ukraine ready to pay Gazprom lower price, pay off debt quickly if agreed

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Ukraine is ready to pay Russia's Gazprom $268 per 1,000 cubic metres of gas and would quickly pay off its $2.2. billion debt if the state-controlled company agreed, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Monday.

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