Topic: [Ultracoin] [Est. Feb 2014] ~ ASIC Resistant & Ultrafast 6 Second Transactions! - page 61. (Read 381063 times)

I have refered it PressTab for comment - will let you know what he says.


Just an observation on staking - if you stake every 2-4 weeks for a few hours - the return is the same for continuous staking - and its far less hassle and more secure than leaving your wallet always unlocked and staking.  Sure you are supporting the network by always having your wallet online.  It also creates far fewer individual transactions (and larger indiv stakes) for your wallet (requiring fewer consolidations for efficient wallet operations).

I'm just wondering if you have thousands of transactions/inputs involved in each stake and this is perhaps a draw on resources causing your issue/freeze and orphans.  As I mentioned in a previous post I consolidate all my wallets (UTC and other) every 6-12 months to keep things lite.

As I remember your debug log was massive suggesting long running with perhaps 1000's of small stakes and I suggested you consolidate your wallet to make it a bit more streamlined. You likely have a very heavy wallet in terms of data and its probably not helping.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16838231

Cheers

I definitely starve the wallet's resources. I run the wallet inside a virtual machine to prevent it from eating up all my resources and slowing down my machine (among many other reasons, like no usable mac version last I tried). The wallet tries to eat up all my RAM and CPU and I have plenty of it (16GB RAM and late model Core i7).

I am sure running inside a virtual machine is also causing it to have trouble finding peers. But honestly, I get a healthy stake and never have trouble syncing the wallet, usually syncs within a seconds of launch unless it has days worth of catching up to do.

The virtual machine could be why I am getting orphans. These are the same conditions I ran all the previous wallet versions under, which also produced orphans, but clearing them never caused an issue in the past. But I have no plans to remove the wallet from it's sandbox as long as it continues to be extremely resource hungry. I would rather starve it and get orphans than slow down everything else.

Anyway, I know the bug exists, I've tried it under fresh OS installs, after wallet restarts, etc and any time there are orphans to be cleared it glitches now. I've been dealing with the orphan problem for probably 12-18 months and never had the overview page glitch prior to this update. It's not a huge deal, easy to fix / workaround, but I can assure you the issue is present and seemingly unrelated to my particular setup. If you are not generating orphans than you would not be able to reproduce it.

Seems to me for every orphan you have staked, it hides a real transaction on the overview page when you clear them. Since it shows 4 transactions by default, if you have 4 orphans then they all get turned into [0.00] on the overview page. I think the case when I see only 1 or 2 changing to [0.00] is when I have only 1 or 2 orphans.

But like I said, I'm not too worried about fixing the orphan problem, I get plenty of UTC from staking and if I am missing out on a few a day I am fine with that. Just annoying when I clear the orphans then have to restart the wallet because I don't always remember to turn staking back on.

Hi bret - I'm no expert on this but I am wondering first why you are getting orphans?

I staked several wallets over the last few days and got ZERO orphans.

To me it seems that your connection may not be very fast and you are submitting stale stakes (submitting after the block has been claimed by someone else) - and that may be why you are getting orphans.

I have no idea if that (slow connection) also affects how your wallet works - but it certainly could.

Of course your computer resources could be limiting you also - if you were running a few other apps/had one of Windows famous resource hogs running in background/Windows was downloading a batch update in the background and/or your CPU/Memory was a low spec - any or all of these may affect wallet operations.

The other suggestion is don't clear orphans with your wallet in staking mode (although I have tried this also and no issues for me)

Also - I note that you only seem to have connections to about 2 peers - this is a little strange in itself as I get 6-8 usually?  No idea if this has anything to do with your orphans.

Lets see if anyone else notes the issue.  

As I said - I cannot replicate but all my machines are Win10 and medium to high spec with a good internet connection.  Nevertheless I can run a CPU miner and a staking UTC wallet (on my oldest machine) with no problems and do not get your error - CPUMiner using 99% CPU/0.5% Memory and the UTC wallet 0.4% CPU/24% Memory.

I believe you have the issue but I suspect its something to do with your particular computing environment.

I would be most concerned about finding the reason for your orphans and concentrate on that - if you fix that there is a good chance that your wallet issue will also resolve.

Since you can just restart your wallet and everything resolves  - thats an easy fix for the problem you have.

Perhaps @PressTab may wish to comment.

Go to Windows "Task Manager" and check out resource useage to see if it gives any clues?



Cheers - usukan

Ok, so it looks like the ones that are replaced with [0.00] might be actual orphans. When I perform clear orphans right after I open and re-sync the wallet everything is fine (no transactions are replaced with [0.00]).

So what I think is happening is that I am collecting orphans from staking and when I clear them something glitches and it removes the orphans but does not replace them with real transactions it just leaves my overview screen empty.

I am also fairly certain staking stops working when this happens. It may be because the wallet stops syncing or something else, but I left the wallet running for 30 minutes after it glitched and when I restarted it I was about 30 minutes behind.

It's not a one-off thing. It happens to me every single time.

Here are some pics to illustrate:











Sorry for all the blurring, I was over cautious on hiding potential private info.

What usually happens is everything shows as [0.00] in the overview screen, sometimes I get the results of this particular screenshot where just some of my transactions are replaced with [0.00] in the overview screen, but the normal behavior is everything is changed to [0.00].

I found the only way to fix it was to restarted the wallet.

It may be that this is related to staking? I have been staking here and there and usually that is when I need to clear orphans and when the problem happens. This is something new to 1.0.0.0 the previous wallets would not glitch when I cleared orphans.

What else is odd is that once this happens, no further transactions show up until I quit and restart the wallet.

Hi bret

I have tried to replicate your issue on several machines (that were CPU mining and running synced wallet - so short on resources) - I can't.  

I run clear orphans function on Transactions - but all Transactions are still there with addresses etc?

Were you doing this on a synced or unsynced wallet?  

I would just restart your wallet if the display issue persists after full sync.


Cheers - usukan

Ultracoin QT Wallet 1.0.0.0 (Windows)

Found a bug. When I am in Overview then switch to Transactions and right click to Clear Orphans then switch back to Overview all my transactions show 0.00 with no address.

Switching between Overview to Transactions and back seems to be fine, but clearing orphans seems to clear everything out from them Overview section. This is the Windows version of the wallet.

The warning is out of date - Bittrex has just forgotten to take it down. Yes more exchanges will come as UltraCoin "comes back".

Is this warning real on bittrex-exchange? I think this message is more than 3weeks obove the bittrex-market? Any other exchanges for UTC, only one is not so much for a comeback.

Its a good point about changes while small community.  This must not be underestimated to fast-track great ideas.


Steven will be back next week and he will take the lead on arranging future developments that the community supports.

He has some exciting stuff for the UltraCoin community to consider.


Cheers - usukan

Fair enough, although i think we have to move forward to get rid of stagnation of past year or so and generate investor confidence. Also i am not sure if introducing pruning and improving PoS will be hard forks. We need to get all important forks done while community is small, later it would be very difficult.

Thanks sambiohazard - I can run nodes no probs on a range of machines from pretty low spec - but yes there is always room for improvement. Staking seems good from my observations but I know what you are talking about. Best to stake your wallets say once a month - not continuously. But the network can handle it if you don't.

Hey - I am certainly not keen to do another fork for a while        - if its not broken - don't feck with it - is my thinking  - until we need to add some nice new features.
You may not appreciate the blood it took to get this one back and working properly.

The UltraCoin network is running A+++ after the fork - everything is working as planned.

It's efficient, fast and reliable for transactions - staking is working just great and mining is retargeting diff exactly as required. Wallets have 5-8+ peers/nodes and are syncing fine.

To put it in a practical perspecive - I could transfer 100k UTC to Bittrex, sell at market, buy back the BTC equivalent in UTC and have that back confirmed in my UTC wallet in about 15 minutes.  Try that on with BTC?  Try that on ETC - even Parity and Geth won't sync again with state cleaning (yes MEW would perhaps work).  I won't do it though because I would forfeit a few too many UTC.

I think more full nodes will come as we grow and Coinomi integration would be useful here.  Nevertheless the community is supplying sufficient node support at present.


Cheers - usukan

its wrong wallet

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16876612


WALLET UPDATE REQUIRED

Ultracoin is hardforking to a new and much improved wallet. This new wallet addresses many issues including the diff re-targeting causing trouble for miners and includes more efficient staking plus increased staking rewards (new wallet after fork - 5.6% PA).

The fork is set for block number 1,824,237 - a few weeks ago now.

You should download, install and run the new wallet - preferably before the fork date.  The old wallet will not function correctly after the fork.


The new wallet files can be downloaded from here:

https://mega.nz/#F!nAVymCQa!wdJ4DMaULSptCqC5BX8fCw

This link has downloads for both 32x and 64x Windows installations.

The simplest installation of the new wallet is via running the appropriate setup.exe for your Windows operating system - either 32x or 64x i.e. "UltraCoin-v1.0.0.0-Win64-Setup.exe" or "UltraCoin-v1.0.0.0-Win32-Setup.exe"

This applies if you want to install a NEW Ultracoin wallet - OR if you want to update an old installation.

So - if you have a Win64 operating system - just download and run "UltraCoin-v1.0.0.0-Win64-Setup.exe"

Once the installation has completed - you need to be sure to run the correct ultracoin-qt.exe so the NEW wallet opens (i.e. don't use your old desktop shortcut).

Best create a new desktop shortcut - as follows

- Navigate to C/Program Files/Ultracoin folder
- Find the file ultracoin-qt.exe
- Create a shortcut to this file - and put it on your desktop.

Use this new shortcut to run the new wallet (and best to delete your old desktop shortcut)


As always - be sure to back up and save your wallet files (wallet.dat) to several other storage devices.

If you know what you are doing - you can use the .zip files shown in the MEGA download link (i.e. ultracoin-qt-v1.0.0.0-Win64.zip) to manually configure your own wallet installation.

No synchronization wallet after installation v07.4.1-9

i cant contribute with a lot of funds so i can't say what to do with coinomi. I think more people will be running fullnodes if we can somehow incorporate pruning and somehow control the UTXO size. Currently wallet consumes 900 MB to a gig of RAM which makes running it 24/7 very difficult. Bad thing is staking encourages people to have more UTXOs so they can stake more frequently, i think we can control some of it if we can improve splitting of coins during staking. You can look at code of Jumbucks(https://github.com/jyap808/jumbucks), they have pretty efficient staking code, best i have seen with conventional PoS.

Don't feed the troll by quoting them. Just put them on ignore.

Why would you tell anyone to drop interest in something they have passion about? Maybe you see this coin as dead, maybe others see this as an opportunity. Clearly the community still exists. Not sure how people discussing a coin you are no longer interested in concerns you or prompts you to such negative emotion. You can completely ignore this coin and go on with your life and vice versa. Thanks for the advice, but no thanks. If the coin was going to die it would have done so before the last hard fork.

This is just the beginning for this coin, it has plenty of potential.

Appreciate the trolling though, shows a lot about the quality of your character.

Give up the ghost guys! Jesus!! Why would anyone want to buy this coin anymore? It's like Betamax trying to re launch now! You are way behind with no funds or dev. Don't waste 100's of hours of your time flogging a dead horse.  Take your loss on your chin

I think it will be difficult to find someone to make all the wallets and nodes for android/ios instead of buying the complete package from coinomi, first to find someone who can make it, and make it good and stable, within a short period of time and to do it cheaper.
If you know someone, fine let's take the dude.
Otherwise I think we need to put up the money (if we want to do it).
I think of it like this. Here we have an amazing opportunity to shape this coin into anything we want it to be, completely unrestricted. We choose. We can make it into anything we like. We can take good functions from any other coin and implement it, use any other platform to integrate UTC in them. Be flexible and adapt. We can not possible do it all by ourselves, at least I can't do it. And no one is going to just give us all the stuff we want for free. So since I'm no tech guy I think that; Ok, I can contribute with what I can, some funds, it's not a lot if you spread the costs, but still someone have to put up the funds or nothing will happen by itself.
I'm I rich? Nope, have family and kids, probably like many of you guys. Still I think it is worth to contribute because with this small donation I can shape the future of this coin, it's amazing I think. With this coin there will be another alternative to the fiat money system that we all dislike.
So basically, with small economic effort we can make a huge advancement for this coin. I know we don't have millions of dollars in ICO and sponsors, not sure we need them, yes I would also be happy if someone else paid for everything but then you have less to say about anything about what you think, well you can say but no one will really care. Anything we make better for this coin will maybe help attract investors in the long run, but I don't think it will be easy to find investors to just buy UTC, if you do know about some investors please step forward! To be honest I don't think any bank would be interested, they will make their on block chain and force people to use only theirs, so UTC would have to be for the people somehow.
And if we don't do coinomi, we do something else and maybe come back later to coinomi, but anything we do will probably cost money/BTC.
By the way is Presstab interested in doing more job for UTC or did he get burned by all the hassle?

@ Presstab, thanks for all your help, you have done a great job, I think you saved UTC. If we won't see you again good luck with your other projects and welcome back!

@ Steven, nice to have you back, well done with the fork and wallet up-date, now all seems a lot smoother, thanks!

Thanks wtfc30