Topic: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 - page 17. (Read 2858 times)

Yep, that's pretty crazy. How about the buildings in my town, are they wired too? Those in Moscow? Dubai? Are all buildings wired to blow? Only big ones? How about all the doghouses?

i said diagonal. you argued it wasnt. thus you think it was purely horizontal
hense me calling you out on your ----------->

you categorically become soo stubborn to want to argue it was horizontal, not vertical not diagonal. because to get a horizontal path would require explosives.

but now you admit its not. you also have to admit the force needed is not as you first promoted.

hopefully one day you will learn about air pressure.. which i dumbed down to your level by calling it wind.
once you realise that the air from each floor falling caused airpressure to send debris into a spin. you will accept my description is actually what happened. and your original description was a myth

^ still has trouble understanding diagonal is a combination of the vertical and horizontal axis.

TECSHARE was simply showing us that the actual pictures show some of the material being blown upward (somewhat) by the explosions. So, all this blab about lateral and horizontal and diagonal is superfluous. The university did the testing in their model, which shows way more info than we could ever show in a forum.

funny part is
techshare draws a curve.. not a horizontal
self debunks his own horizontal story with his own post

LOL

Why didn't you bring up a video from a couple of years ago? LOL.

Okay, I'll look at the link to see if it has a video in it. What was I supposed to be watching for, again?

 

its only been 6 days since the last time you asked.
wow you really are forgetful
here again.

What video?     

Diagonal movement is a combination of movement along a vertical and horizontal axis, thus the panels moved horizontally. I know this is hard... but think. Rub those last 2 brain cells together.



Nice circular logic. The initial starting energy is actually the vast majority of the energy needed, but conveniently you pretend that is not the case. It didn't just fall, it traveled 600 feet horizontally against the effects of gravity. Objects don't fall sideways.

Such things have a parabolic down ward path.

video shows it wasnt the case
you know. the video.. you know actual account of actual events.you know evidence. proof

but atleast you admit you dont know. so now you can stop guessing

But we don't know that it wasn't something like this:


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each floor has air in it. and windows dont open. so when a floor collapes that air (wind) has to go somewhere
no explosives are needed just air pressure escaping each floor plus debris spinning.
as seen on THE ACTUAL VIDEO. not some conspiracy blog of words wrote by people that were not even at the scene

but hey

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I'm not solving your problem of trying to figure out why and how EXPLOSIVE FORCE is required and don't lecture me about real explosions. I know there was zero need for explosions for this case. That's you that believes there was that need, but you haven't proved it. You've just talked about how INCREDIBLE it was that a MASSIVE BEAM was moved 500 feet. And don't try to explain to me about inefficiencies in a spherical expansion of mass being inefficient in producing movement in just one direction. I could have thrown that formula in, but didn't for several reason.

You have several misunderstandings, the first one being attempting to shoe horn this problem into EXPLOSIONS REQUIRED. If they are required, they are, and if they are not, they are not required.

Finally, I am surprised that apparently even at this point, you do not see that the E = (KE + PE)/KG is and will always be PER KG. It does not matter that your "massive beam" is 2 or 22 tons.

But now you seem to want to talk about a 22 ton piece of metal and 600 feet of travel. So this will be not 5% but 6-7% of starting PE, energy of position. So what? It's a tiny part of the instantaneous energy.

Seriously, if you showed some big heavy thing 500 feet after a 4 story building fell down, you'd have a point. But you don't.

No explosives were needed to produce the effects seen.

For confirmation on a nonsensical conspiracy theory debunked years ago, just use a 2007 YouTube vid
with comments disabled. What could possibly be wrong with that?

Really dude? You still haven’t let this drivel go after 19 years?
Pushed by OP.... none  other than the resident bitcointalk,
 godswill, science denying, nut job troll, BADecker?
I honestly thought you were smarter than that.

find a dictionary and learn the word diagonal
i know what diagonal is. but you are stuck with horizontal

First of all you are still basing your calculation on a 2 ton mass. The photos I provided showed an ENTIRE panel section, coming in at 22 tons 600 feet away laterally from the point of origin. That aside, you are also pretending as if your calculation was based on a perfectly efficient explosion which transferred all of its energy into the mass. Your calculation shows only the energy used to move the mass itself and totally ignores inefficiencies that happen in real explosions. Real explosions follow the path of least resistance, so the pressure wave travels in all directions, most of the energy being wasted pushing air or other debris, meaning MUCH more explosives than you got from your calculation would be required. In summary your calculation is trash.

But of course. Even your deception falls under the classification of physics... at its base and core.

Now, do like the university study did, bring thousands of more physics calculations into it, rather than just one little point that doesn't really work without the rest of the calc.

There is no other game.

Oh, I forgot. There is the game of the Chinese disinformation agents and spies that you push and encourage.