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Topic: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 - page 21. (Read 2858 times)

legendary
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ok.. the thumpnail of the video seems to make YOU and others think that the steel girders must have come from low down the building.. (the subliminal primer)

the narrater then explains that the force needed to push it 2 football feilds from such a low level must have been huge..

but.. physics and common sense and science.. which is something he hints at. is that girders from the 90th floor dont need that much force.
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the real funny thing i find with conspiracy theorists is
when there is no big word changing event. they like to cause a conspiracy that the world should be in panic and utopia is impossible..
when there actually is a world changing event. they like to invent a conspiracy that the world is actually utopia and the event is fake.

seems like there is no pleasing these people. no matter if something is happening or not.
i bet they still think that all the fire fighters of 9-11 are still alive but living on an island with elvis too

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one last thing about explosives used in demolition
architects know and design buildings to fall in on themselves .. thats how they are built. they are not designed to fall sideways like trees being lumbered. regulations see to that because in huge dense area's they dont want earthquakes or planes causing buildings to tople sideways like a path of dominos.
so safety regulations ensure building design have it that if the columns defect. it crumbles DOWN.

the next part is if a column is not defected due to earthquake, being struck by large object. and they plan to take it down then they only use enough explosives to defect the columns. they would not load it with enough explosives to send shrapnil 2 football fields away. again safety regs are involved... and common sense

lastly if there were explosives involved and enough to actually cause the force of a 2 footbal field velocity at the stupid low floor level the video trues to subliminal suggest. the "bang bang bang bang" would be HUGE
much more apparent and more visable than normal controlled demolition

there was not standard demolition explosive bang bang bang sounds nor extreme bang bang bang bang sounds
so that rules out both posibilities of explosives.

all that is left is the stupid subliminal propaganda that the girder came from a low level floor..
again common sense suggests other wise. but it is obvious that people dont want to admit the obvious and instead want to set up/suggest that it wasnt from near the 90th floor but more likely from the first floor.. just to push their conspiracy
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Please don't duck and dodge the subject just answer.

Why would anyone BOTH blow up and building and ram a plane into it?

It seems pretty self explanatory that this would serve as an effective diversion from questions about the explosives (as it has been).

Forget all the tangential arguments. The laws of physics prove explosives HAD TO be involved to acheive the results obtained in the destruction of the WTC towers. This is basic math and physics here, not theorizing, not postulating, not debate, scientific fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUKLOlIhang
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
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Because I would like you hear your answer. To execute the condemned murderer you'd cut his head off, shoot him, and electrocute him? Why?

My answer would be the things that I would find if I researched. Are you accusing me of being the brains behind the 9/11 terrorist act?

Cool
Brains, no.
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Maybe you aren't so much of a troll after all.     Cool
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
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Because I would like you hear your answer. To execute the condemned murderer you'd cut his head off, shoot him, and electrocute him? Why?

My answer would be the things that I would find if I researched. Are you accusing me of being the brains behind the 9/11 terrorist act?

Cool
[/quote]Brains, no.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
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You are right when you say evil is rather like committing suicide. Evil people often don't care. All they want is what they get now. They think they just might be smart enough to ward off trouble later. Too bad for them. Or good that they will get justice one way or another.

Cool
Please don't duck and dodge the subject just answer.

Why would anyone BOTH blow up and building and ram a plane into it?

You don't seem to believe what I say. So why not do your own research to see what the professionals are saying? It's not out on the front pages any longer. But it is still available for anyone who wants to look.

All of a sudden you seem to want to duck and dodge doing your own research.

Cool
Because I would like you hear your answer. To execute the condemned murderer you'd cut his head off, shoot him, and electrocute him? Why?

My answer would be the things that I would find if I researched. Are you accusing me of being the brains behind the 9/11 terrorist act?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
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You are right when you say evil is rather like committing suicide. Evil people often don't care. All they want is what they get now. They think they just might be smart enough to ward off trouble later. Too bad for them. Or good that they will get justice one way or another.

Cool
Please don't duck and dodge the subject just answer.

Why would anyone BOTH blow up and building and ram a plane into it?

You don't seem to believe what I say. So why not do your own research to see what the professionals are saying? It's not out on the front pages any longer. But it is still available for anyone who wants to look.

All of a sudden you seem to want to duck and dodge doing your own research.

Cool
Because I would like you hear your answer. To execute the condemned murderer you'd cut his head off, shoot him, and electrocute him? Why?
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
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You are right when you say evil is rather like committing suicide. Evil people often don't care. All they want is what they get now. They think they just might be smart enough to ward off trouble later. Too bad for them. Or good that they will get justice one way or another.

Cool
Please don't duck and dodge the subject just answer.

Why would anyone BOTH blow up and building and ram a plane into it?

You don't seem to believe what I say. So why not do your own research to see what the professionals are saying? It's not out on the front pages any longer. But it is still available for anyone who wants to look.

All of a sudden you seem to want to duck and dodge doing your own research.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
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You are right when you say evil is rather like committing suicide. Evil people often don't care. All they want is what they get now. They think they just might be smart enough to ward off trouble later. Too bad for them. Or good that they will get justice one way or another.

Cool
Please don't duck and dodge the subject just answer.

Why would anyone BOTH blow up and building and ram a plane into it?
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
says the guy that just grabs the first conspiracy he finds from some cultish acting group and believes it as being as truthful..
dare you go back and research the computer models to realise the one pretending to be of actual events. doesnt match actual events.
nope you wont dare yourself to research the model.
dare you research how buildings are made.. nope
dare you actually use common sense nope.

you will just say if its wrong then not your fault blame someone else and pretend your innocent and had nothing to do with starting this topic. pretending it was not your theory.. as usual
which is such a loser approach to life.

maybe next time you put a bit of effort into actually researching a new idea /theory you want to post about. and actually have put some intellectual thought into it. an been critical in your methods of research to actually want to find whats real.
but no, i doubt that. you will instead just latch onto the very first conspiracy that entertains you. and spend a week trolling people about it
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
^
(facepalm)

If you would stop facepalming for a minute, and get out there and do some research, you would actually find out that 9/11 was an inside job.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
ok guys give it time.. i have a feeling badeckers next topic will be that elvis is alive and living with michael jackson

Well thank you kindly, franky1. But why not make it easier on yourself by simply saying is straight out? Saying what? That you know that 9/11 was an inside job.

I know, I know. If you did this, you'd be tempted to get right into who you really are. Don't be afraid. You can be honest. You are the same as all of the rest of us. You are different like all the rest of us.

Are we having fun, yet?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
ok guys give it time.. i have a feeling badeckers next topic will be that elvis is alive and living with michael jackson
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
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But that is all you jokers can say. Because you haven't watched the videos that explain how and when the explosives were taken into the buildings.

Cool
What you have not and really cannot explain is why any Evil Person or Evil Group would want to BOTH blow up and ram planes in to buildings.

That's rather like committing suicide by shooting yourself in the head two or three times, isn't it?

Spendy, you are such a sweet, innocent person. Only a sweet, innocent person can't imagine that evil people and evil groups often don't have a goal other than to simply do evil. Sooo innocent that you can't even imagine that anybody could have such a simple goal of doing evil.

Of course, if you search the Net for all those old explanations for the whys of 9/11, you can easily find the other goals they had and might have had.

You are right when you say evil is rather like committing suicide. Evil people often don't care. All they want is what they get now. They think they just might be smart enough to ward off trouble later. Too bad for them. Or good that they will get justice one way or another.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
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But that is all you jokers can say. Because you haven't watched the videos that explain how and when the explosives were taken into the buildings.

Cool
What you have not and really cannot explain is why any Evil Person or Evil Group would want to BOTH blow up and ram planes in to buildings.

That's rather like committing suicide by shooting yourself in the head two or three times, isn't it?
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766

badeckers response is that normal people havnt watched a video of some conspiracy nutter guy tell a story..

sorry.. but for a guy that loves to throw buzzwords about like: courtrooms, stand under oath, evidence
where he says nothing is true unless its done in court...
he himself must realise his own empty speaches from conspiracy guys that quote other conspiracy guys does not create proof

i should quote a book about spaceships that travel at lightspeed and impregnate badecker everynight..
would it suddenly make it happen .. no
because story telling is not evidence. especially if its from someone who clearly shows no experience in the matter and no first hand knowledge, nor even the decency to even attempt some actual research

its nut jobs that dont want to believe anything that contradicts their idea, who double down and say only way to prove it is in court.. are so oblivious to how the real world works that they are just trying any way they can to not hve to admit they are wrong.
at first i thought it was just lazy and ignorance. but it is most definitely a sign of some mental disfunction
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
The idea that 9/11 was a demolition is really weird, and actually pretty funny. Because somehow it has to have the planes hit the towers, AND THEN THE DEMOLITION CHANGES SET OFF.

It's like an incredibly complicated and ridiculous conspiracy theory. I guess the Chinese or the Iranians are pouring a lot of huge amount of money into keeping it afloat.

to put explosive charges into a building. demolition crews would not just let offices workers mingle around all day. while they lay the charges..
people would notice charges strapped to the columns.
people will notice demolition guys strapping things to columns

for badecker to think that hundreds-thousands of people saw nothing.. but only badecker and his motley crew of youtube armchair theorists seen it all.. shows less awareness of badeckers own actions than of anything else he thinks could have happened
yep i said it badecker cant even work out his own actions. let alone something he has no experience or first person knowledge over..
and thats the part that makes me laugh

actually reminds me of a while back some guy was trying to argue on this forum about how great cars would be with tanks of hydrogen fuel. several guys including me with actual experience started arguing with him, but oh he knew everything. Because, internet...

If (A) cannot or won't listen to (B) about issues such as basic safety protocols in industry, there is a problem.

Having had by sheer accident some small charges go off on the table right in front of me (static electric set it off, black powder antique gun) I have the utmost respect for anyone who works with such things everyday ... the idea of sneaking in and setting charges is so totally laughable...


But that is all you jokers can say. Because you haven't watched the videos that explain how and when the explosives were taken into the buildings.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
And you don't have a link to the witness video you were talking about.

dang you have a real memory loss problem
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54127072

That's just the popular video of the demolition being done. They did it pretty good, too, didn't they. Straight down into its own footprint, almost at free fall speed.

So you think buildings are designed to crash in on themselves, right? Do you sleep in your car because you are scared of buildings? Aren't you afraid that cars might be designed to crash in on themselves?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
And you don't have a link to the witness video you were talking about.

dang you have a real memory loss problem
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54127072

The idea that 9/11 was a demolition is really weird, and actually pretty funny. Because somehow it has to have the planes hit the towers, AND THEN THE DEMOLITION CHANGES SET OFF.

It's like an incredibly complicated and ridiculous conspiracy theory. I guess the Chinese or the Iranians are pouring a lot of huge amount of money into keeping it afloat.

When you want to do a criminal act, like crashing a couple of tall buildings with people inside, do you simply walk in and say to the security guard on duty, "We're here to set the demolition charges?"

The planes were the excuse to start a war in the Middle East. They were also a cover-up for using demolition to bring the buildings down for other reasons.

Of course the operation was complex. You can't stand out in the parking lot, and huff and puff and blow the buildings down. And if you are trying to accomplish several main objectives, and hide the facts of what you are doing, it absolutely is going to be complicated.

But they pulled you and frank1 in. So it worked. But there are a lot of other people who haven't been tricked.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
The idea that 9/11 was a demolition is really weird, and actually pretty funny. Because somehow it has to have the planes hit the towers, AND THEN THE DEMOLITION CHANGES SET OFF.

It's like an incredibly complicated and ridiculous conspiracy theory. I guess the Chinese or the Iranians are pouring a lot of huge amount of money into keeping it afloat.

to put explosive charges into a building. demolition crews would not just let offices workers mingle around all day. while they lay the charges..
people would notice charges strapped to the columns.
people will notice demolition guys strapping things to columns

for badecker to think that hundreds-thousands of people saw nothing.. but only badecker and his motley crew of youtube armchair theorists seen it all.. shows less awareness of badeckers own actions than of anything else he thinks could have happened
yep i said it badecker cant even work out his own actions. let alone something he has no experience or first person knowledge over..
and thats the part that makes me laugh

actually reminds me of a while back some guy was trying to argue on this forum about how great cars would be with tanks of hydrogen fuel. several guys including me with actual experience started arguing with him, but oh he knew everything. Because, internet...

If (A) cannot or won't listen to (B) about issues such as basic safety protocols in industry, there is a problem.

Having had by sheer accident some small charges go off on the table right in front of me (static electric set it off, black powder antique gun) I have the utmost respect for anyone who works with such things everyday ... the idea of sneaking in and setting charges is so totally laughable...
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