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newbie
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May 14, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
He gave me the private keys legally and by his own will. I deleted the private keys too by "MISTAKE" just like he made a mistake ( nobody is pefect ) and don't have the funds anymore. Those 25 BTC aren't moving until ECDSA is cracked or until you bruteforce the keys.

 How do you look at self in mirror and not hate what you have become ?

 You very dishonest person in community Sad
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
May 14, 2012, 09:40:20 AM
Since I now own the debt, if you pursue him legally, I'll get to know who you are and will contact the authorities in your area to recover my losses, so please start the process, bulanula. Given that I have a history of refunding you for *your* losses when A1Bitcoinpool was unable to pay, I'm pretty confident that any legal court would find in my favor. I'm not sure why you continue to insult smart1985, but due to your recent actions I have ceased pursuing a restoration of your account on BTC-E and I will no longer pursue a removal of your scammer tag here, either.

I guess you'll get to enjoy it.

Can we have confirmation from smart1985 Huh

How much did you pay him for ?

I think you forget that BTC is a big fat 0 in legal terms while defamation and harassment isn't.

Nothing happened to mybitcoin, bitcoinica, bitcoin7, linode, rackspace ...

I did not steal anything anyway. He gave me the private keys legally and by his own will. I deleted the private keys too by "MISTAKE" just like he made a mistake ( nobody is pefect ) and don't have the funds anymore. Those 25 BTC aren't moving until ECDSA is cracked or until you bruteforce the keys.

donator
Activity: 1419
Merit: 1015
May 14, 2012, 09:36:13 AM
Since I now own the debt, if you pursue him legally, I'll get to know who you are and will contact the authorities in your area to recover my losses, so please start the process, bulanula. Given that I have a history of refunding you for *your* losses when A1Bitcoinpool was unable to pay, I'm pretty confident that any legal court would find in my favor. I'm not sure why you continue to insult smart1985, but due to your recent actions I have ceased pursuing a restoration of your account on BTC-E and I will no longer pursue a removal of your scammer tag here, either.

I guess you'll get to enjoy it for a while longer.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
May 14, 2012, 09:35:21 AM
In other news, I am investigating with my lawyer on how to go about potentially suing smart1985 for defamation of character and harassment.

 You will need to steal many more bitcoin to pay for good lawyer.

 I ask question to moderators, how is good for community and image of bitcoin that forum allow kriminals to post and laugh about crime ? Why not people get ban if admitted or verify scammer ?

 This like bank robber standing in lobby of bank with megaphone yelling at stupid peoples trying to do banking.

Because that's better than being kicked out of a bank because someone said you were a bank robber. The damage is done. We all know he's a douchebag and a thief. He's lost all trust in the community. Game over. Who cares what he says or does from this point if it's not to immediately apologize and make things right.

newbie
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May 14, 2012, 09:32:08 AM
In other news, I am investigating with my lawyer on how to go about potentially suing smart1985 for defamation of character and harassment.

 You will need to steal many more bitcoin to pay for good lawyer.

 I ask question to moderators, how is good for community and image of bitcoin that forum allow kriminals to post and laugh about crime ? Why not people get ban if admitted or verify scammer ?

 This like bank robber standing in lobby of bank with megaphone yelling at stupid peoples trying to do banking.
hero member
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May 14, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
In other news, I am investigating with my lawyer on how to go about potentially suing smart1985 for defamation of character and harassment.

I got the idea from here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.899674

Will keep you updated.

If you are going to accuse somebody of being involved in terrorist organizations then you better have proof as that is a very serious accusation.
Anonymous people barking at other anonymous people don't need anything other than time and dedication to remaining anonymous. Once you find out someone is trying to be anonymous, just stop communicating with them.

Bitscalper could technically sue you for a whole bunch of stuff (deformation of character etc) and get much more than just 1000BTC if you made that statement without any proof.
He could not actually. Even if he was dumb enough to out himself just to make a lawsuit (which would in turn incriminate himself for numerous reasons), BitScalper is not an identity, it's an anonymous site. It is not protected by any laws afaik.
rjk
sr. member
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1ngldh
May 14, 2012, 09:24:53 AM
In other news, I am investigating with my lawyer on how to go about potentially suing smart1985 for defamation of character and harassment.

I got the idea from here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.899674

Will keep you updated.


GOLD. I have got to see this. Please do it, I want to see the spectacular fail that will inevitably ensue.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
May 14, 2012, 09:06:38 AM
In other news, I am investigating with my lawyer on how to go about potentially suing smart1985 for defamation of character and harassment.

I got the idea from here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.899674

Will keep you updated.

legendary
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Merit: 3393
Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
May 14, 2012, 05:16:52 AM
- I want buy something worth $5
- I give man $20
- I get produkt, but no change for balance of $15
- Shopkeeper no understand why I angry because he not give me balance of money owe to me. Shopkeeper say $15 is large tip.

 In real world, this called stealing and is crime.

 It Bitcoin world this OK ?

It's not OK, it is stealing and it is a crime, but since we have no cops, the best we can do is give bulanula a big sign saying "SCAMMER" which he has to wear for the rest of his life* as a warning to others.

*He actually only has to wear it until he gives the money back and then he can put this all behind him, but he's made it clear that he's not going to do that because he's just that much of an asshat.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
May 14, 2012, 05:10:08 AM


Oh crap ! The partyvan arrived. Cheesy

I forget the password to my private keys officer ... sorry !
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 03:27:09 AM
hero member
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
May 14, 2012, 03:16:42 AM
- I want buy something worth $5
- I give man $20
- I get produkt, but no change for balance of $15
- Shopkeeper no understand why I angry because he not give me balance of money owe to me. Shopkeeper say $15 is large tip.

 In real world, this called stealing and is crime.

 It Bitcoin world this OK ?

1) Not a "Bitcoin world" problem (if such a thing even exists), but an internet coward/douchebag problem.
2) It is made easier with Bitcoin
3) It is never okay, OP knows this but is just butthurt.

LMO.
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
May 14, 2012, 03:11:26 AM
- I want buy something worth $5
- I give man $20
- I get produkt, but no change for balance of $15
- Shopkeeper no understand why I angry because he not give me balance of money owe to me. Shopkeeper say $15 is large tip.

 In real world, this called stealing and is crime.

 It Bitcoin world this OK ?
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
May 14, 2012, 02:24:13 AM
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Can I become a donator scammer


LOL, Yes. If you donate, you'll find out I'm not lying. May I suggest 25 BTC. Tongue

 Cheesy Now,THATS funny as hell Cheesy

This is STILL going on?HuhHuh

hero member
Activity: 496
Merit: 500
May 12, 2012, 03:15:27 PM

In your own words:

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I offered him all I could but I will not refund because it defeats the point of BTC.

So it's not that you didn't like his attitude when you didn't immediately refund him, it's that you have to create an ex post facto justification for keeping the money to cover up the fact that you're a scumbag from your ego.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
May 12, 2012, 03:07:49 PM
Funny that CoinExchanger does not have a scammer tag after he admitted to receiving 12k BTC from Linode stolen coins but I have it for 25 BTC.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 271
May 12, 2012, 03:02:48 PM
Hey I didn't convict you of anything.

I don't think you are a 'Scammer', theymos has said as much, but he doesn't want to create another tag for this case.

Actually, if you handled it different, you probably could have avoided the whole issue.

It is you being unreasonable that has got you here.

For Example:

Smart1985 mistakenly over paid for ads. If you applied those funds to another third party for those ads, you couldn't refund him because they are no longer under your control. However, they are under your control because you admitted as much.

I really don't understand why there hasn't been a compromise here. But meh... It's you business.


Edit: btw: One of the reasons I don't think you are a scammer is 'because' you admitted control over the coins.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
May 12, 2012, 02:52:42 PM
Have some proof I own that address ? "1Bu1424Lf7y3Jz9p4ZyCo2mRSQDwdaXrHa"

NO. Just FUD.

I was trolling to get the scammer tag ! I also stole the 18K BTC from bitcoinica !!! I am also Tom Williams ! And MrMoon ! And author of every other theft on here ...

Can anybody actually prove I own that address Huh I can say anything to anyone but in a real court you need proof you did what you said you did.

Well if it gets to the jury stage, all you need is 12 people saying: "Guilty"  Proof or no proof.

In a real court you need concrete proof. Otherwise you can pay somebody else to confess for you ... just like asking somebody else to sit an examination for you ( you need ID ).

But this has to be expected in the PKCB / People's Kangaroo Court of Bitcointalk ...
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 271
May 12, 2012, 02:50:45 PM
Have some proof I own that address ? "1Bu1424Lf7y3Jz9p4ZyCo2mRSQDwdaXrHa"

NO. Just FUD.

I was trolling to get the scammer tag ! I also stole the 18K BTC from bitcoinica !!! I am also Tom Williams ! And MrMoon ! And author of every other theft on here ...

Can anybody actually prove I own that address Huh I can say anything to anyone but in a real court you need proof you did what you said you did.

Well if it gets to the jury stage, all you need is 12 people saying: "Guilty"  Proof or no proof.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
May 12, 2012, 02:38:27 PM
Have some proof I own that address ? "1Bu1424Lf7y3Jz9p4ZyCo2mRSQDwdaXrHa"

NO. Just FUD.

I was trolling to get the scammer tag ! I also stole the 18K BTC from bitcoinica !!! I am also Tom Williams ! And MrMoon ! And author of every other theft on here ...

Can anybody actually prove I own that address Huh I can say anything to anyone but in a real court you need proof you did what you said you did.
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