Topic: Unjust scammer tag - page 24. (Read 48107 times)

Hey,

Donate 50 BTC to the forum and get all the upper class privileges we all enjoy up here. ::Wink::

I tell you man, it is hopping up here. Mods at your beckon call, special deals in the donator section, whiskey and cigar Thursdays.

All it takes is 50 BTC to join the 'club'.


Mitigate your losses already and get back to trading.

How smart1985 made my reputation total shit ( Raize requested this ) :

-banned BTC-E account with 26.99 ltc ( later refunded by exchange ); wasted 2 hours of time here talking about it with him but he refused to cooperate
-scammer tag on this forum because he is donator and i am an idiot nobody
-negative rating -1 on bitcoin-otc by "pigeons" ( not even smart1985 himself / maybe a sockpuppet )
-all BTC-E folks shouted "scammer"

Logs deleted when dodoking chose to close his account voluntarily after my account was banned unfairly on BTC-E and the other users called him and me a nazi nigger bitch or some other crap and nothing happened to their accounts.

It was easter sunday, i was visiting relatives when payment came in. I told him after 6 confirms i will send it back then i got into celebrations with family etc.

After a couple of hours ( 3 hours I think ) I came to him shouting scammer thief liar on BTC-e and threatening to ddos me and some other users saying "hack my private keys" lol.

I said best i can do for you in this situation is give 10 months of ad space but since you attack me like i am a fool no refund for you. 

Contacted sonba / Herodes ( past business relations I made deals worth 100 BTC with ) asking them to convince me to give BTC back.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a1bitcoinpool-compensation-66387

I have to believe you are a rational person who wants future business. It is in your best interests, especially since we are all early adopters of Bitcoin, to resolve this issue. All this has become is a confidence problem. Do you hang out on IRC semi-regularly? It sounds like maybe you do? We should chat.

He didn't drop a quarter though. Just like the shopkeeper situation, he handed you a bag of quarters as payment for something that only needed one quarter. The overpayment even happened in the same transaction, didn't it, so it was clearly from him (invalidating your DNA tracing argument).

The shopkeeper does not get to say "okay, you did give me $20 instead of $10. Here, have this bag of chicken feet that I sell for $10, and if you don't like it, fuck you."

You wanted what you were paying $10 for. Perhaps you might want the chicken feet (and then everything will be settled nicely), but that's the customer's decision, not the shopkeeper's. And if the customer does not want chicken feet, the shopkeeper is not entitled to the extra money.

Whether the customer is a dick or not is not relevant to the ethics/legality of the situation. I'd have preferred everyone to stay civil (you'll see in other threads I like to tell people to avoid calling things scams until it's verified) but things happened the way they did and that still does not justify your behavior.

Yet another failogy.

It is more like this : smart1985 dropped a quarter in the sewer. I found it ( working like a rat in the sewers ) and kept it for myself. Finders-keepers.

I could have captured the DNA on the coin and gone to police station and scan the DNA database and return the lost quarter to smart1985 but why bother ?

He dropped the coin, his problem to get it back from the sewers !

I offered 10 months of service for 25 BTC ( original deal was 2.5 BTC for a month ) and he doesn't like that policy and I am huge scammer

I would have returned if he did not attack me.

The fact that you choose to interpret it as such is what everyone is taking issue with. It amounts to someone handing the shopkeeper a $20 instead of a $10 by mistake, and the shopkeeper saying "as far as I'm concerned, that's my tip. You can't have it back". It's dishonest behavior, and that's why people are calling you out on it.

We're not saying you're the biggest scammer of all time, so don't trivialize the objections by making us sound irrational. You'd be pissed off if the shopkeeper kept your $20, even if it was just $10 lost. The fact that you're making this a huge issue of "bitcoin doesn't have chargebacks" just shows how far you've gone to rationalize what you've done and to avoid admitting you're wrong. This has nothing to do with bitcoin chargebacks. We know that bitcoin can't do chargebacks, and that's why you still have the money. The point is your honesty (or lack thereof) and the fact that you're citing a technical aspect of bitcoin (the lack of chargebacks support in the protocol) as a justification for your own decision.

Firstly, thanks for the thread bump.

It would be a crime for everyone to forget how big of a scammer I am.

What is this talk about A1BITCOINPOOL coming back and you buying my "debt"

I had no debt it was a donation for all I care.

You're right, and here's the definition of a fraud:
deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

You are correct, he is probably an ass for raising a stink and getting your accounts removed and having the "scammer" tag put on you, but the solution to fix his mistake is in your hands and you still refuse to remedy the situation. You've breached our confidence, failed our trust, and proved yourself to be unable to handle a business transaction properly. I disagree with the scammer label mostly because I think instead you should just be banned for being an insufferable jerk. Giving you a scammer label is being far too kind, but I guess the admins get to make that decision and not the rest of us.

Here are some other quotes where you give two-faced statements:

These two seem to be in conflict, did you have a deal for 2.5BTC or not? If no, why are you still holding 22.5 BTC?


You said you'd give the BTC back at one point. Is your word not your bond?


So he's a jerk and you decide to be a jerk back. The difference is, if a customer is a jerk, you still have to show you are the better person and give them what they agreed to, it's part of being an honest businessman.

In any store I have ever walked in, I could give a store owner $250 for for an item that cost $12.50 and expect to get change. A fleet-footed hooligan could take my $250 for a $12.50 product and run, but I would be an idiot to call him a "street vendor". I'm quite certain the local authorities would not call him a vendor either. You're certainly no businessman, so if you are going to continue to peddle your business here, you are indeed a scammer.


Update, A1BITCOINPOOL has recently contacted me regarding repayment of his debt. I even charged him negative interest, meaning he actually is going to compensate everyone for their losses and I'm covering some of the costs because I got to advertise P2Pool in repayment of his debt.

And here's where it gets really interesting. As soon as A1BITCOINPOOL repays his debt, I'm buying yours. This will be fun.

That being said, if he wants to change something and we don't see any issue with the change, us moderators (or administrators if it's a profile change) can do it.

Also, I'd like to remind you guys of the policy of one bump per 24 hours. If you make a post between the last bump and when you are allowed to do it again, it must contribute to the discussion.

ROFL

Stop playing with the scammer, you might go blind.

OK bulnula, could you post that so i can quote it?

Scammer user group can't do much of anything besides post. No editing, no profile changes, etc.

It does exist, but you just don't know where to look. theymos might've removed it, though; it's been a while since I was in your position.

Are you able to change the thread title to I, bulnula, AM a scammer

After a while, the community won't forgive you.
+1 we need a bulnula subforum

Good sport or not, one day I will pay it back and have the tag removed.

But for now I am in the elusive and exclusive scammer tag club. Gotta enjoy it, don't you think ?

Too bad we don't have our own subforum too

Bulnula is a good sport actually, sadly hes enjoying this