Unofficial BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 37.

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Quote from: BuTaJIu4eK on February 27, 2014, 11:13:37 AM

One person sent an e-mail!
Need to fill out by hand and still need my signature!

REFUND REQUEST FORM https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4izEkfhvfklWXJDWFVkbVlzMGs

"... we can resell your position in queue ..." is the most interesting part of this refund declaration.

so if anybody requests refund that does not mean that all others get their miner earlier, it means only that bit mine will sell this position to somebody and all other customers have still wait...

10% extra will be lowered by 30$, transfer fees, exchange rate ext. so finally stays only 5%-8% what you will get extra...

when you brought your miner and payed it with BTC, they had horrible BTC/USD rate, for refund they are counting with the best fee for themselves. their BTC/USD was usually up to 15% lower when you had to pay your miner, now they will count practically with daily highest price. so if you payed with BTC you will lose money even if they give you 10% extra.

grazy stuff... i would not sign it! better take contact with your lawyer.

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One person sent an e-mail!
Need to fill out by hand and still need my signature!

REFUND REQUEST FORM https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4izEkfhvfklWXJDWFVkbVlzMGs

Their direct link Refund Request Form:
https://bitmine.zendesk.com/attachments/token/zfiab2apjgpgpui/?name=Refund+Request+Form.pdf

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Quote from: georgem on February 27, 2014, 06:43:14 AM

Quote from: BuTaJIu4eK on February 27, 2014, 05:25:00 AM

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2) Refunds can be asked on the 71th day of delay based on the committed shipment date, which is the one published when you place the order. For avalon-clones and December batch customer, that means you'll be able to ask the refund starting from February 27th (December 16th stated delivery date + 10 days + 60 days). An appropriate page on our web site under support will be opened tomorrow for anybody willing to ask for a refund and yes, we will be honoring them within 30 days.

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7) Refunds are not mandatory: if you don't request them with our refund request form, we won't be doing this automagically for you. You can opt to wait for your 50% (the maximum) compensated order to be delivered for any amount of time.

Today is February 27, 2014.
I do not see refund request form! Angry

Where this form Huh

Who sees this form Huh

Wow, you are right... I don't see a refund request form ANYWHERE...
But I guess you just have to tell them you want a refund, and it's ok.

It's illegal to force someone to use something that doesn't exist. This will not hold in any court. Cheesy

they are silent as usual!

I guess they are not going to return the money or as always procrastinate! Shocked

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Quote from: acidu on February 27, 2014, 07:04:52 AM

my order is #13*, made in 1 october 2013
-I`v got that #13* by asking in email for a response to my payment!

-in my email that I`v got from website after making the payment in BTC , the number is Order: #20**, hope it helps....

-so.. can someone help me to tell , how many days they are late?

-ordered a desk, slow one.. 200Gh/s

Thx

hide ur order number lol

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my order is #133, made in 1 october 2013
-I`v got that #133 by asking in email for a response to my payment!

-in my email that I`v got from website after making the payment in BTC , the number is Order: #20**, hope it helps....

-so.. can someone help me to tell , how many days they are late?

-ordered a desk, slow one.. 200Gh/s

Thx

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Quote from: BuTaJIu4eK on February 27, 2014, 05:25:00 AM

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2) Refunds can be asked on the 71th day of delay based on the committed shipment date, which is the one published when you place the order. For avalon-clones and December batch customer, that means you'll be able to ask the refund starting from February 27th (December 16th stated delivery date + 10 days + 60 days). An appropriate page on our web site under support will be opened tomorrow for anybody willing to ask for a refund and yes, we will be honoring them within 30 days.

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7) Refunds are not mandatory: if you don't request them with our refund request form, we won't be doing this automagically for you. You can opt to wait for your 50% (the maximum) compensated order to be delivered for any amount of time.

Today is February 27, 2014.
I do not see refund request form! Angry

Where this form Huh

Who sees this form Huh

Wow, you are right... I don't see a refund request form ANYWHERE...
But I guess you just have to tell them you want a refund, and it's ok.

It's illegal to force someone to use something that doesn't exist. This will not hold in any court. Cheesy

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2) Refunds can be asked on the 71th day of delay based on the committed shipment date, which is the one published when you place the order. For avalon-clones and December batch customer, that means you'll be able to ask the refund starting from February 27th (December 16th stated delivery date + 10 days + 60 days). An appropriate page on our web site under support will be opened tomorrow for anybody willing to ask for a refund and yes, we will be honoring them within 30 days.

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7) Refunds are not mandatory: if you don't request them with our refund request form, we won't be doing this automagically for you. You can opt to wait for your 50% (the maximum) compensated order to be delivered for any amount of time.

Today is February 27, 2014.
I do not see refund request form! Angry

Where this form Huh

Who sees this form Huh

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Quote from: crocko on February 27, 2014, 01:55:20 AM

OK, but I have a couple questions:

Me too: have you even read this thread before posting in it?

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Did someone received a CoinCraft Desk / Rig yet ?
I ask this because there was an announcement on the official website (http://bitmine.ch/?p=5174):
First Coincraft units leaving our warehouse this week (posted on February 12)

Coincraft Desk: Yes https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5389815
Coincraft Rig: No, due to technical problems

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Quote from: Finnminer on February 26, 2014, 04:52:24 PM

Quote from: crocko on February 26, 2014, 04:32:24 PM

I didn't received mine yet (week 3 Febr) Embarrassed

That's surprising considering there's just a few hundred orders in front of you in the queue. Roll Eyes

OK, but I have a couple questions:

Did someone received a CoinCraft Desk / Rig yet ?
I ask this because there was an announcement on the official website (http://bitmine.ch/?p=5174):
First Coincraft units leaving our warehouse this week (posted on February 12)

My other questions are:
On my account it is displayed: CoinCraft Desk (February week 3 batch #2), but in my email from Bitmine.ch : March week 1
Why this delay ?
I am eligible to receive some extra hashing power ?

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'All that glitters is not gold'

Quote from: toke on February 26, 2014, 02:37:22 PM

can i mine script ?
wich cryptocurrencies can i mine with that?

Are you full member and you don't know the difference between SHA-256 and scrypt based coins? Wooooooooooow ! Cool

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Run a Bitcoin node.

Quote from: Min€r on February 26, 2014, 02:29:55 AM

I will not say you how many TH I or user Tranquile (yes I know exactly) is running since a lot of monthes. If not having a 5 figure monthly energy bill I would simply be quiet.

Napkin calculation...

5 figures per month
=> minimum $10,000 per month

A * B = C
where
A = kWh used
B = price per kWh, assume $0.1.
C = $10,000 (assumed)

So A = C / B
= 10,000 / 0.1
= 100,000 kWh used per month

How many hours in a month? Roughly 30 * 24 = 720 hours.

100,000 kWh / 720 hours = 139 kW
=> Mining rig draws approx 139 kW.
At an average efficiency of 4 W per GH/s, hashing power is roughly 139 / 4 = ~34 TH/s.
At an average efficiency of 3 W per GH/s, hashing power is roughly 139 / 3 = ~46 TH/s.
At an average efficiency of 2 W per GH/s, hashing power is roughly 139 / 2 = ~70 TH/s.

So at a guess, your rig is somewhere between 34 TH/s to 70 TH/s as a minimum. That would currently put you in the top 11 users on BTC Guild, for example.

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Quote from: Rave on February 26, 2014, 03:30:07 PM

Quote from: psycho-pass on February 26, 2014, 03:21:19 PM

is gash anygood? whats the rate

Not really...because it's already the biggest pool...but it has 0% fees and the ability to split up the payout which is perfect if you're sharing the miner with some others.

mhh...
thats deffinently not a reason to mine there. it is most contra productive what you can do.

I have lots of clients and have to share the payouts all the time too, but i am not mining in gnash.io...

0% fees you can have in some other pools also, especially in p2pool. im my node you would have 1% relative fees, but it is probably one of the most effective nodes in all p2pool and has excellent payouts/shares.

if you will mine in p2pool then i can give you a hint, how you could share your payouts (without fees) without mining in gnash.io. switch your miners to any other pool and i would be glad to show you a real Robin-Hood-Trick in this case!

Just PM me!

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what bout the Rigs,,they are not even shipping those yet. even a december batch rig will be later then a jan. desk now.

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Quote from: Finnminer on February 26, 2014, 04:52:24 PM

Quote from: crocko on February 26, 2014, 04:32:24 PM

I didn't received mine yet (week 3 Febr) Embarrassed

That's surprising considering there's just a few hundred orders in front of you in the queue. Roll Eyes

waaaay offff it will probably bemarch week 3 for him

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Quote from: crocko on February 26, 2014, 04:32:24 PM

I didn't received mine yet (week 3 Febr) Embarrassed

That's surprising considering there's just a few hundred orders in front of you in the queue. Roll Eyes

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'All that glitters is not gold'

I didn't received mine yet (week 3 Febr) Embarrassed

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Quote from: Rave on February 26, 2014, 03:12:44 PM

THX, I'm gonna look at this stuff later this week.

Quote from: GodfatherBond on February 26, 2014, 03:11:46 PM

Thank you for the idea!
That would be nice to set up, I will try when miners arrive as I will set up those at warehouse - dont want heat & noise to home.

No problem just let me know if you need some help if stuck. Maybe I will write a small tutorial - just a few points:

- Setup some DynDNS provider in your router (in the linux routers mentioned next it`s easy) - helps if your internetprovider change your WAN-IP sometimes.

- VPN is easy & cheap with a linux router (WRT-54GL or other) installed some custom linux like DD-WRT (look in DD-WRT web-interface under: Services - PPTP & setup all)

- VPN on client to "dial in your network" from outside (example Windows-OS: setup a new connection (VPN) in network manager)

- use static IPs for the devices internal your network (needed for monitoring) -> that setup will not be changed via DHCP

- for setting up this script look at the cgminer-API settings (special to api-network, api-allow, api-port & api-listen)... this was a bit hard first but look at this setings in your cgminer config

- if having more miners want to monitor simply portforward in your router the default API-port of cgminer for each device on another port (choose higher ones) & setup in monitoring script this differnt ports

Wink

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Quote from: psycho-pass on February 26, 2014, 03:21:19 PM

is gash anygood? whats the rate

Not really...because it's already the biggest pool...but it has 0% fees and the ability to split up the payout which is perfect if you're sharing the miner with some others.

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Quote from: Rave on February 26, 2014, 03:19:28 PM

Quote from: matthewh3 on February 26, 2014, 03:13:44 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 26, 2014, 02:59:29 PM

Quote from: Rave on February 26, 2014, 02:54:35 PM

Quote from: Min€r on February 26, 2014, 02:43:02 PM

Quote from: Rave on February 26, 2014, 02:16:46 PM

As I said, they're not runnig at my home. But I'll ask my friend for some screenshots...
But first he has some problems to solve...according to eligius.st the two miners deliver only 377 Gh/s. At ghash.io it was around 600 Gh/s....which is very strange. There are no HW errors and they should deliver at least 1200 Gh/s :/

I think the stats of the pool take the average of some last rounds maybe - on slush it`s like that. Let it run for a few hours & look again.

They've been running for over an hour now and still showing the same numbers...it's strange. The numbers on the display and the webinterface are correct.
I always had some differences between cgminer and the pool stats in the past using my GPU miners....but 377 Gh/s vs 1200 Gh/s.....I don't know...something seems to be wrong...

damn, not very encouraging.... you are the first guy I see reviewing an actual bitmine device... please go on testing the shit out of it... we need you.

Bitmine remains silent.

You guys are obviously new to mining. It can take a long time for your recorded hashrate on a pool to level out. Unless they offer hourly averages. On P2Pool it can take up to seventy-two hours.

No XD As I said, we tried it at eligius which shows stats for multiple timeframes including 128 seconds. Btw, a round usually takes about 10 minutes and it was already running for more than an hour. I was also looking at the actual round times at backchain.info. I'm not new to mining Wink

And the problem is already solved...it was because of that strange webinterface XD

To sum it up:
The hardware is running fine in normal mode

Cool I'm glad to hear, but if the miner says 1TH/s the pool rate should be the same minus HW errors. While HW errors would be quoted by cgminer unless conman has not been given early access to the hardware. Has conman or whatever they call him, had access to any Bitmine gear does anyone know. So that he can fine tune cgminer for it? Plus had anyone with Bitmine gear tried P2Pool yet?

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Quote from: Rave on February 26, 2014, 03:19:28 PM

To sum it up:
We're now using ghash.io which is showing us 1.4 Th/s for 6 modules in normal mode

is gash anygood? whats the rate

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitmine-list-of-orders-december-2013-delivery-batch-1-364155

Bitmine list of orders - December 2013 delivery (batch 1)

fill it out to keep track on orders

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