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Topic: [Unofficial] Coinpot.co - new microwallet - page 13. (Read 100784 times)

newbie
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As a faucet owner ourselves  Sad sad to see coinpot shut down, I believe they were among the first ones that many people came across. And were definitely among one of the companies that we look up to and competed with.  They could not be more right about fighting fraud and fighting cheaters You can sometimes spend hours fighting with these people.

I wish them all the best for future ventures Smiley

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member
Activity: 585
Merit: 20
I'm not sure how effective their fraud detection system was.

Literally ALL fraud detection systems are counter productive, NONE has EVER worked, ALL drive away regular users but keep the cheaters.

It begins with the captchas, where the captcha providers increase difficulty relative to the amount of traffic they get.
For a bot there is no increased difficulty, only for regular users there is, meaning increased difficulty makes it harder for regular users to solve a captcha but bots remain uneffected.
And then they actually celebrate an assumed fraud reduction proven by reduced traffic, ignoring the fact that the reduced part is almost exclusively regular users.

A good example is the attempts of HideoutTV who want to make sure users actually watch the ads before they get paid.
They tried ANYTHING they could imagine but it just doesn't work, because users let Hideout run in the background and get paid without watching.
Recently they check whether or not the browser window it runs in is highlighted, if not they don't pay and the effect is that regular users who run this in a secondary window aside of some other stuff they do don't get paid anymore, while bots running in a VM within which the browser is the only open window still get paid while nobody is watching.

At Coinpot as well as most other faucets there has always been the option to remove all ads from the site and still make claims, the sites don't even attempt to detect or ban those.

Best example might be Microsoft with their product activation.
Literall ALL Microsoft products exist in a hacked version where product activation has simply been removed from the product, meaning all the regular users who paid for the product get bothered big time by that stupid activation procedure while the illegal copies enjoy the freedom of using it without any problems.
sr. member
Activity: 1680
Merit: 379
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Introducing their VIP system with unreasonably high interest rates a few months before shutting down just to get people to deposit large amounts looks really shady in hindsight.

I'm not sure how effective their fraud detection system was. They seemed to ban a lot of regular users and a lot of bots were still able to get through. If this system wasn't able to keep their faucet in business then I don't see how they will be able to turn this into a profitable service.
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 267
Chad Hodler since 2013
Why not selling the whole thing? Im sure there would be people that were interested and they could get a bit of money for it. I guess if you do it right you can make some money with it.

Maybe because they should their anti-fraud technology with it and apparently it's not in their plan because they want make a living out of that tech.
jr. member
Activity: 118
Merit: 1
Why not selling the whole thing? Im sure there would be people that were interested and they could get a bit of money for it. I guess if you do it right you can make some money with it.
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 267
Chad Hodler since 2013
Ahhh, so sad. But they have been very professional at communcating the shutdown so in advance to give time to all users to withdraw safely.

This is no small thing in the crypto world where usually these services simply shutdown and the users are left with nothing.

Goodebye CoinPot  Cry
hero member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 532
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What a shame, one of the oldest players is pulling out. I guess it's time to quickly convert our tokens into BTC and start cashing out...

Anyway, here's the full news:
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CoinPot and partner faucets are closing down!
Posted: 2021-01-15 08:00 UTC
We are sad to announce that CoinPot and our 7 partner faucets will be closing down over the next few months. This decision has been made with a heavy heart for the reasons that we have detailed below. As always we are fully committed to our loyal and fantastic users and we will ensure that you have enough time to make final faucet claims and withdraw any remaining balances. Further details about this and timelines are also set out below.

Which web sites does this affect?
CoinPot coinpot.com
Moon Bitcoin moonbit.co.in
Moon Dogecoin moondoge.co.in
Moon Litecoin moonliteco.in
Moon Dash moondash.co.in
Moon Cash moonbitcoin.cash
BitFun bitfun.co
Bonus Bitcoin bonusbitcoin.co
When will this happen?
These are the important dates that you need to be aware of...

31ST JANUARY 2021
At midnight on the 31st January 2021 the following will happen...

All 7 faucets will cease to operate. No further faucet claims will be possible after this time and each faucet will be replaced by a holding page advising of the closure.
The following functions of CoinPot will cease...
Registration (no new users will be able to register)

Lottery

Multiplier

Challenges

VIP Rewards

Mining

The following functions of CoinPot will continue to be available...
Sign In/Out

Conversion

Withdrawals

28TH FEBRUARY 2021
4 weeks later at midnight on the 28th February 2021 the following will happen...

The remaining functions of CoinPot will cease...
Sign In/Out

Conversion

Withdrawals

CoinPot will be replaced by a holding page advising of the closure.
All private user data, email addresses, security credentials etc will be removed from our servers for all 8 web sites
Why are we closing down?
The quick answer to this is that we no longer have the time or resources to maintain the faucets at the quality level you have become used to.

The longer answer...

The faucets and CoinPot have always really been run as a hobby, something we do for fun and learning outside our families and day jobs. We have always tried to earn enough from advertising revenue that we could pay for the servers and hosting costs and then pay out everything else to you as faucet claims and referral commission. This policy meant that our faucets gained a reputation as the highest paying faucets around and grew very quickly.

Added to this, the success of CoinPot with its games/mining/challenges/VIP etc meant that we were spending more and more of our spare time improving/fixing things. Unfortunately the biggest time drain has become fighting fraud and identifying cheaters. This is neccesary as otherwise our extremely small profit margins would be wiped out overnight!

During the last few years we have built an incrediby complex and successful fraud engine that analyses users claiming patterns and looks for fraud/bot usage. This grows constantly with new techniques to fight the bad guys! We are extremely proud of how this fraud fighting works - and it is this part of the CoinPot system that will live on in the future...

Starting from next month we are embarking on a major new project which we cannot reveal too much information about right now. It is within the crypto world but totally unrelated to faucets, and it will be built around the CoinPot fraud engine and all the knowledge we have accumulated from this over the years.

This means however that we just cannot justify the time we spend on CoinPot and the faucets any more. They will be closed down completely by the end of February as we have detailed above.

We will remain big believers in cryptocurrency and will continue to closely follow the faucet world. And we hope we can stay friends with everyone that we have met on this amazing journey since 2014!

Best of luck

The CoinPot team

Source: http://coinpot.co/news/coinpot-and-partner-faucets-are-closing-down
newbie
Activity: 102
Merit: 0
So this is the end...
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Omg, I just reached 100k+ today... And I got new motivation to grind, spent $70 on ads to get referrals, and then it comes news that its shutting down Sad.

I have nothing to live for anymore, I have to walk towards the light, I hope Robin Williams is there.

http://coinpot.co/news/coinpot-and-partner-faucets-are-closing-down
jr. member
Activity: 111
Merit: 2
Why are you still using the multiplier.
I lost too many tokens here and gave up.
Now only faucets.

Exactly as Silasftw say, you can get benefit, very very little (near $0,10 per day) but enough to getting started with crypto for most of people... but the problem with coinpot.co is the unfairness of its multiplier: after a "normal" week (near 300 tokens lost daily but 1300 won with challenges) today again it seems like the "you-dont-win" admin button was pressed again Grin

I have withdrawed 3 times without problem btw, and I do 30k multiplier rolls per day to get bonus tokens, (1 token bet, on win set to high, reset to starting stake, on lose set to low, reset to starting stake).

I can lose up to 600-700 tokens but you get 1300 tokens from the 2 challenges (multiplayer rolls per day and multiplayer tokens betted).

I am at 118k tokens atm after 40 days (I converted 20k satochis as well)

Definately you're very lucky Cheesy


EDIT:

NEW ADVICE!!!!

IMPORTANT: CoinPot and partner faucets are closing down! - click here for details
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
I have withdrawed 3 times without problem btw, and I do 30k multiplier rolls per day to get bonus tokens, (1 token bet, on win set to high, reset to starting stake, on lose set to low, reset to starting stake).

I can lose up to 600-700 tokens but you get 1300 tokens from the 2 challenges (multiplayer rolls per day and multiplayer tokens betted).

I am at 118k tokens atm after 40 days (I converted 20k satochis as well)
sr. member
Activity: 1680
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I like to think that the 'unsustainable' VIP rewards are paid out from a pot of crypto seized from all the scammers and cheaters who've been caught.

The only way this would be sustainable was if there was enough scammers for them to earn enough revenue from. Since most scammers aren't depositing their own money and just simply abusing the faucets then that revenue has to come mostly from ads. If Mellow Ads decided to start caring about fraud impressions, which it doesn't appear that they currently do, most of that revenue would vanish.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Wanted to share this, I think the gods smiled at me!

Picture: https://gyazo.com/24082304b9b27125a321fb2d98b68cea

The same happened to me last week: 4377 satoshies. And at the end of the day +219 satoshies (5% daily bonus)  Smiley Smiley

I cannot belive yet... but...

JAN
13   
 Bonus Bitcoin
Faucet claim for 460 satoshi
0.00000460
btc

Shocked

Copy-pasted directly, no need to screenshot if you read most of my posts about coinpot.co and its faucets... (most of my posts attack directly the unfair behavior of coinpot.co but when there happens sth good I will post here too)

I will post the final result of my multiplier for today... I advance that since that faucet claim there fail rate is absurdly high now for me and I've lost aprox 1000 tokens with 10k rolls Cheesy


Why are you still using the multiplier.
I lost too many tokens here and gave up.
Now only faucets.
jr. member
Activity: 111
Merit: 2
Wanted to share this, I think the gods smiled at me!

Picture: https://gyazo.com/24082304b9b27125a321fb2d98b68cea

The same happened to me last week: 4377 satoshies. And at the end of the day +219 satoshies (5% daily bonus)  Smiley Smiley

I cannot belive yet... but...

JAN
13   
 Bonus Bitcoin
Faucet claim for 460 satoshi
0.00000460
btc

Shocked

Copy-pasted directly, no need to screenshot if you read most of my posts about coinpot.co and its faucets... (most of my posts attack directly the unfair behavior of coinpot.co but when there happens sth good I will post here too)

I will post the final result of my multiplier for today... I advance that since that faucet claim there fail rate is absurdly high now for me and I've lost aprox 1000 tokens with 10k rolls Cheesy
full member
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Merit: 102
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a simple question for you...
why do you continue to use coinpot multiplier every day if (as you claim) you lose money every day?
why would someone throw away money every day on something they 100% believe is a scam?
1st of all, I never claimed about losing my money every day because I never deposited anything to coinpot.co wallets and I will never do it. I only advice people about the UNFAIR behavior of multiplier to be very very carefull when thinking about deposit crypto, and if people finally decide to deposit then people have to be very very carefull when converting crypto to tokens in order to get (unsustainable) VIP rewards or playing multiplier to get challenge starts for earning more tokens.

I have said a lot but I remember again:

- NEVER DEPOSIT.
- If finally you wanna deposit, then you have to know that converting crypto to tokens you are losing crypto because 99% times you will get worse conversion rate than converting tokens to crypto.
- VIP Rewards are completely unsustainable (do you know what happened to "Cred"?).
- Nobody who has been played coinpot.co multiplier during months can defend or uphold that multiplier is provably fair according to results obtained by absolutely most of the people who played it.

As I said a lot within this thread, I still using coinpot.co multiplier for testing purposes in order to advice people and I will warn people everytime as I can.

When something bad happens with coinpot.co, I try to post it and advice all people (and same when sth good happens like my previous post about bonusbitcoin.co faucet claim for 460 satoshi).

I like to think that the 'unsustainable' VIP rewards are paid out from a pot of crypto seized from all the scammers and cheaters who've been caught.
jr. member
Activity: 111
Merit: 2
Scam accusation #56273257 against Coinpot.

About coinpot multiplier it's actually rigged no matter what it says about the house having no advantage. I had a look under the hood it's set up in such a way that you make some tokens during first couple of rolls once the roll count gets higher they actually break the streak chain with artificial errors. Tested it on multiple accounts to make sure it wasn't just based on the account or something. Hope this was informative for you guys and be safe from these scams may the force be with you.
That's exactly what I think about! I have monitored different sets of dozens of rolls, time-spaced, and I for the first 2-3 sets there is not any roll failed... but when I have reached more than 10 sets completed (aka more than 1000 rolls completed previously) then the "roll failed" errors started to happen a lot and the % of winnings decrease a lot (near 20%).

And for today I have experimented a lower server response, so I am increasing the "time-spaced" between sets of rolls but unfortunately I think this new setup won't get better results...
jr. member
Activity: 111
Merit: 2
a simple question for you...
why do you continue to use coinpot multiplier every day if (as you claim) you lose money every day?
why would someone throw away money every day on something they 100% believe is a scam?
1st of all, I never claimed about losing my money every day because I never deposited anything to coinpot.co wallets and I will never do it. I only advice people about the UNFAIR behavior of multiplier to be very very carefull when thinking about deposit crypto, and if people finally decide to deposit then people have to be very very carefull when converting crypto to tokens in order to get (unsustainable) VIP rewards or playing multiplier to get challenge starts for earning more tokens.

I have said a lot but I remember again:

- NEVER DEPOSIT.
- If finally you wanna deposit, then you have to know that converting crypto to tokens you are losing crypto because 99% times you will get worse conversion rate than converting tokens to crypto.
- VIP Rewards are completely unsustainable (do you know what happened to "Cred"?).
- Nobody who has been played coinpot.co multiplier during months can defend or uphold that multiplier is provably fair according to results obtained by absolutely most of the people who played it.

As I said a lot within this thread, I still using coinpot.co multiplier for testing purposes in order to advice people and I will warn people everytime as I can.

When something bad happens with coinpot.co, I try to post it and advice all people (and same when sth good happens like my previous post about bonusbitcoin.co faucet claim for 460 satoshi).
jr. member
Activity: 111
Merit: 2
Wanted to share this, I think the gods smiled at me!

Picture: https://gyazo.com/24082304b9b27125a321fb2d98b68cea

The same happened to me last week: 4377 satoshies. And at the end of the day +219 satoshies (5% daily bonus)  Smiley Smiley

I cannot belive yet... but...

JAN
13   
 Bonus Bitcoin
Faucet claim for 460 satoshi
0.00000460
btc

Shocked

Copy-pasted directly, no need to screenshot if you read most of my posts about coinpot.co and its faucets... (most of my posts attack directly the unfair behavior of coinpot.co but when there happens sth good I will post here too)
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 104
Scam accusation #56273257 against Coinpot.

About coinpot multiplier it's actually rigged no matter what it says about the house having no advantage. I had a look under the hood it's set up in such a way that you make some tokens during first couple of rolls once the roll count gets higher they actually break the streak chain with artificial errors. Tested it on multiple accounts to make sure it wasn't just based on the account or something. Hope this was informative for you guys and be safe from these scams may the force be with you.

omfg

what else did you find "under the hood"?  Grin
i lost a sock last week and its been driving me crazy. maybe its there too?
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 1
Scam accusation #56273257 against Coinpot.

About coinpot multiplier it's actually rigged no matter what it says about the house having no advantage. I had a look under the hood it's set up in such a way that you make some tokens during first couple of rolls once the roll count gets higher they actually break the streak chain with artificial errors. Tested it on multiple accounts to make sure it wasn't just based on the account or something. Hope this was informative for you guys and be safe from these scams may the force be with you.
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