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legendary
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August 24, 2016, 03:50:50 AM
I anxiously wait for the first ad featuring Clinton in full meltdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RCW6Xa6d4

WTF was that? And why Trump is refraining from using this in any of his ads? Hitlery looks like she is possessed by the devil. Seriously... there is something wrong with that lady. It is up to the Americans to decide whether they want someone who suffers from chronic psychosis and schizophrenia as their head of the state.
sr. member
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August 24, 2016, 02:54:56 AM
I anxiously wait for the first ad featuring Clinton in full meltdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RCW6Xa6d4

 Roll Eyes

She doesn't stand a chance... Time for the demonistas to find another person...

And for those that forgot the barking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZqS7q7voY

Ahahha
legendary
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August 23, 2016, 05:14:14 PM
I really never thought there would be a Donald j trump cult one day. Lol

It feels like one of this crazy reality TV series  Shocked

The funny thing, is that there is no Trump cult.

That's just how many have fled in his direction from the Bush cult, the Hillary cult, the Sanders cult, etc.

A lot of people who are determined to vote for him seem to not even "like him."
legendary
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August 23, 2016, 03:07:54 PM
I really never thought there would be a Donald j trump cult one day. Lol

It feels like one of this crazy reality TV series  Shocked
legendary
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August 23, 2016, 01:47:23 PM

Maybe he [Trump] was just a big fan of Obamacare considering...you know..Trump supports universal healthcare. Like...you know...a socialist.

I doubt that Trump was 'a big fan of Obamacare'.  Even I could see what a train-wreck it was going to be before it went in, and at the time I was a proponent of 'single payer.'  One of the problems with the problem/reaction/solution theme from a humanitarian perspective is the collateral damage it creates both when it fails and when it succeeds.

Health care was to me and is still something I consider to be fundemental aspect of a functional state.  Like a road, it is something which needs to be universally available in order that everyone has an opportunity to succeed in other aspects of life if they choose to try.  The double-edged sword is that like education, it can be 'weaponized' against citizens by the corp/state apparatus as well, but this is drifting off topic.  Suffice it to say, I personally don't equate 'universal health care' to 'socialism' in a simplistic and direct way and Trump may not either.  You are of course free to do as you please but don't blame me for the failures of the Libertarians to gain any traction.

If in some Libertarian economic theory a segment of the population needs to be deprived of health care (or roads or whatever) in order for market forces to perform their voodoo, you are in luck;  even with 'universal access' there are some people who won't use it anyway.  Crazies like me, for instance.

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vokian in the post above provides a fairly obvious explanation for the tweet if it is not a hoax.  Trump has never been shy about how he played the game in his pre-politician days  I thought about pointing this out but doing so would have been out of sync with the content.

legendary
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August 23, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
It's like this: I like picking winners too. Back in 2012, I may or may not have placed a bet on betsofbitco.in on Barack Obama winning the election. I wasn't rooting for the guy—it was only good for business.

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^^^^^  If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Did Trump’s involvement in the birther thing confuse you? Were you wondering how Trump could believe Obama was not a citizen? The answer is that Trump never believed anything about Obama’s place of birth. The facts were irrelevant, so he ignored them while finding a place in the hearts of conservatives. For later.
legendary
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August 23, 2016, 01:18:31 PM

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If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Sounds like sour grapes about some promise that was probably made.

Who knows, Trump is insane. There is no logic to what he says.

I'll speak for myself, but in some of the things I've heard Trump say, I suspect that he is somewhat in the same boat:

Back when Obama was first elected not a lot was known about him.  I think that the instinctive sentiment of most people was that he at least wished for the country to succeed in the way success was most commonly understood.  It was a rational expectation that Obama would have leveraged his status as 'the first black president' to foster improved cohesion.  When he at best neglected this task I suspect that a lot of thinking people were surprised.

In my observation it became clear very quickly that Obama was going to be a two-term president based on his activities which strongly favored the oligarchy class.  Only later did it start to dawn on me that even if it wasn't his idea to 'destroy be design' the U.S. and he was probably not himself an engineer in the task, he was perfectly willing to do whatever was asked in support of this project.  At that point a thinking person starts to ask 'why?'

One possible contributing factor in understanding Obama's disposition is that he is 'not born here.'  I don't know, and unlike others, I don't care that much.  There are many U.S. born people who 'hate America' just as there are many foreign born people who love it.  So, it's simply not an important factor in trying to unravel the mysteries of Obama's behavior as POTUS.



Well, maybe it was Soros behind the mystery of who paid for Obama's college.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
August 23, 2016, 01:15:16 PM

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If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Sounds like sour grapes about some promise that was probably made.

Who knows, Trump is insane. There is no logic to what he says.

I'll speak for myself, but in some of the things I've heard Trump say, I suspect that he is somewhat in the same boat:

Back when Obama was first elected not a lot was known about him.  I think that the instinctive sentiment of most people was that he at least wished for the country to succeed in the way success was most commonly understood.  It was a rational expectation that Obama would have leveraged his status as 'the first black president' to foster improved cohesion.  When he at best neglected this task I suspect that a lot of thinking people were surprised.

In my observation it became clear very quickly that Obama was going to be a two-term president based on his activities which strongly favored the oligarchy class.  Only later did it start to dawn on me that even if it wasn't his idea to 'destroy be design' the U.S. and he was probably not himself an engineer in the task, he was perfectly willing to do whatever was asked in support of this project.  At that point a thinking person starts to ask 'why?'

One possible contributing factor in understanding Obama's disposition is that he is 'not born here.'  I don't know, and unlike others, I don't care that much.  There are many U.S. born people who 'hate America' just as there are many foreign born people who love it.  So, it's simply not an important factor in trying to unravel the mysteries of Obama's behavior as POTUS.



The tweet was from 2012.

Maybe he was just a big fan of Obamacare considering...you know..Trump supports universal healthcare. Like...you know...a socialist.
legendary
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August 23, 2016, 12:56:02 PM

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If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Sounds like sour grapes about some promise that was probably made.

Who knows, Trump is insane. There is no logic to what he says.

I'll speak for myself, but in some of the things I've heard Trump say, I suspect that he is somewhat in the same boat:

Back when Obama was first elected not a lot was known about him.  I think that the instinctive sentiment of most people was that he at least wished for the country to succeed in the way success was most commonly understood.  It was a rational expectation that Obama would have leveraged his status as 'the first black president' to foster improved cohesion.  When he at best neglected this task I suspect that a lot of thinking people were surprised.

In my observation it became clear very quickly that Obama was going to be a two-term president based on his activities which strongly favored the oligarchy class.  Only later did it start to dawn on me that even if it wasn't his idea to 'destroy be design' the U.S. and he was probably not himself an engineer in the task, he was perfectly willing to do whatever was asked in support of this project.  At that point a thinking person starts to ask 'why?'

One possible contributing factor in understanding Obama's disposition is that he is 'not born here.'  I don't know, and unlike others, I don't care that much.  There are many U.S. born people who 'hate America' just as there are many foreign born people who love it.  So, it's simply not an important factor in trying to unravel the mysteries of Obama's behavior as POTUS.

legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
August 23, 2016, 11:41:23 AM


^^^^^  If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

A blurry image on a digital medium is inherently suspicious.


Does non-blurry make it more legit? It was grabbed from Trump's twitter the day after the election but has since been taken down.



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If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Sounds like sour grapes about some promise that was probably made.

Who knows, Trump is insane. There is no logic to what he says.
legendary
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August 22, 2016, 07:20:51 PM


^^^^^  If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

A blurry image on a digital medium is inherently suspicious.
legendary
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August 22, 2016, 05:48:57 PM


^^^^^  If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
August 22, 2016, 09:31:11 AM
sr. member
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August 22, 2016, 02:29:02 AM
First of all thank you guys for your kind and supportive words. All praises are to God.

Let's say that for the righteous the walk is easier when in the best of all companies. I was blessed to have the chance to discuss and listen to some of the most awaken of the mercantile streets of America. Men that were never afraid to say what they thought and didn't spare time and energy to inform me on most of what was hidden from me by the ennemies education system.

I will never be able to repay them ever. They gave me the meaning of freedom and liberty.

However in this quest toward understanding I was confronted by some of the worst of what can go out of a woman wombs. Those opponents can't defeat my soul. All their set of attacks were ultimately very limited. Sadly I had to exile myself, armed only with the flame of Liberty I went were the flows took me and it was the unknown familiarity of darkness.

This is were I met the coolest guys on Earth, hardcore freedom fighters openly engaging in a no limit total war against those that had attacked me earlier. Welcome to the motherland, some us were born in homes that would make your project apartments luxury flat, but what ever, we will never surrender the independence and liberty of Russia, it's our home, what ever it costs and what ever is left of you if anything, we will be free to chose our own destiny.

So I asked myself are you Americans? No they said: we are Russians. WoW. Much impressed. Gmos, radiation, monetary policy, social conditioning, toxins, resources scarcity, demographic trends, technologies;  all mastered. What do you aim for? Right now they said, it's on the back burners because of our common ennemies but look: they pointed the skies and stars.

Then following the wind east I saw him, he looked at me and said that I had nothing to fear... As long as I behave according to his rules, and that he is a veggie, only use unleashed violence to defend his Cubs but told me that he will introduce me to the reason he can live such a peaceful, harmonious, sustainable and happy life. Here the panda introduces me to the Dragon.

Few have seen it, since before the signs... Transitioning on transitions. Open fair and honest. There were two high light of this meeting, where are the white Dolphins of Shanghai? It's only by remember him the love and sacrifices of Chinese mothers toward their children that he was able to regain composure. the dragon is in 400+ years war against the foreign invaders wanting to loot China. But if you listen carefully to the Dragon you can't but ask yourself if he isn't grooming them before putting them in his archives. Let's say worthy opponents or too stupid to be realize how insignificant they are. Pandas didn't make those choices without careful and unforgiving analysis...


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Who would like to elaborate on the direction the Democrats are moving the country?  I know my opinion...

Now this the best question ever. let say that I don't consider this like this. Your approach is too passive, the question is not where they go, but who can we eliminate them one by one, periphery to the core of core to the periphery. Brutal systemic scalping, they join us (aka defeat and join us (the individual enemy in his defeat become friends with his victors (Japanese teaching)) or being unsalvageable, die.

Once they are attacked they will move... This is what we anticipate. Not their plans, because they will not happen Cheesy.

This domination of the plains, never let the herd decide where it moves. We do.

Now as I don't like not answering a very still very good question and am even more interested by your opinions here is an event that happened during the Copenhagen climate conference a while back. The United Nations wanted to send in every Chinese homes United Nations observers. Think about it...
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 08:44:28 PM

I strongly agree. Stick to:

 - the constitution and bill of rights,

 - forget the toxic and intolerant narrative from the radical evangelicals,

 - accept reality and tell the truth about issues, difficulties and possible solutions,

 - open discussion,

 - fight corruption, neopotism and cronyism as much as possible,

 - respecting the individual and his independence and responsibility toward himself,

 - lean and efficient gov

 - and above all USA 1st and safe.[/b]


I would agree with this, however as we look at the drift of the two parties, it is NOT the direction the Democrats are headed. ...

MS could not have come up with a better list of things which the Democrats are heading AWAY from.  And fast!

That is why I sense that a goodly number of Democrats, and especially us older ones, could find such a platform so appealing that we finally get around to trashing our voter's precinct card and getting another.  Until fairly recently there was no real hope for a preferable option because the alternative was equally repugnant.  IMHO, the 'drift' is more like a water-slide lately and it's carrying both parties in basically the same direction.

BTW, I'm not going to exclude 'radical evangelicals' from my comments about MS's list.  Using that term to describe the eco-fundies and scientismists (both those who hold Dem cards and those who do not) is stunningly appropriate.

hero member
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Less hops. More wins.
August 21, 2016, 08:19:54 PM
Hilliary already said she will destroy her enemies.  And vowed to take down Breitbart once she is appointed by diebold and windows.  They are already attacking any honest forum (canary in the coal mine) today like never before.  So that their take down of American will not be discussed with any opposing viewpoint on the world wide web.  
 
This is what politics in failed states look like.  Russia has a right to be worried.  

USA was flushed today and nobody even knows it!  
    
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 07:51:40 PM
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On top of that, I'm certain that the Democratic party contains a lot of decent people who are very disenchanted.  A 'rebirth' of the Republicans who tried to document and adhere to a better set of principles could probably attract many of these folks.


Bah.  "Nevertrumpers," as well as the Libertarian jokers, and others, only act from the point of view of Democratic power structure to fragment and divide enemy forces. 

Divide, and Conquer.

Was reading Machiavelli last night.  A simple sounding strategy such as 'Divide, and Conquer' is easier said than done and there are a variety of pitfalls to watch out for.  "Many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.'

Of course our two-party political system is a fraud and a sham and a puppet show evolved over many years with 'divide and conquer' as a key element.  On the other hand so are various other charades as expressed in other 'democratic' nations.  The two party system does produce a certain efficiency which has contributed to our 'sole superpower' status...for better or worse.

I would not rule out the possibility that mistakes have been made by the oligarchy in the frantic struggle against a usurper.  And again, it seems possible to exploit these and cause one of the families of failure that Machiavelli describes.  Seems worth a shot and especially so since the future of our nation really does seem to be on the line...



On top of that, I'm certain that the Democratic party contains a lot of decent people who are very disenchanted.  A 'rebirth' of the Republicans who tried to document and adhere to a better set of principles could probably attract many of these folks.

I strongly agree. Stick to the constitution and bill of rights, forget the toxic and intolerant narrative from the radical evangelicals, accept reality and tell the truth about issues, difficulties and possible solutions, open discussion, fight corruption, neopotism and cronyism as much as possible, respecting the individual and his independence and responsibility toward himself, lean and efficient gov and above all USA 1st and safe.

This would be a very solid foundation upon which to build.  I like simple and straightforward.


I would agree with this, however as we look at the drift of the two parties, it is NOT the direction the Democrats are headed.

It is the direction Trump would lead the Republicans in (although they seem to be resisting).

Curious events, certainly.

Who would like to elaborate on the direction the Democrats are moving the country?  I know my opinion...
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
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On top of that, I'm certain that the Democratic party contains a lot of decent people who are very disenchanted.  A 'rebirth' of the Republicans who tried to document and adhere to a better set of principles could probably attract many of these folks.


Bah.  "Nevertrumpers," as well as the Libertarian jokers, and others, only act from the point of view of Democratic power structure to fragment and divide enemy forces. 

Divide, and Conquer.

Was reading Machiavelli last night.  A simple sounding strategy such as 'Divide, and Conquer' is easier said than done and there are a variety of pitfalls to watch out for.  "Many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.'

Of course our two-party political system is a fraud and a sham and a puppet show evolved over many years with 'divide and conquer' as a key element.  On the other hand so are various other charades as expressed in other 'democratic' nations.  The two party system does produce a certain efficiency which has contributed to our 'sole superpower' status...for better or worse.

I would not rule out the possibility that mistakes have been made by the oligarchy in the frantic struggle against a usurper.  And again, it seems possible to exploit these and cause one of the families of failure that Machiavelli describes.  Seems worth a shot and especially so since the future of our nation really does seem to be on the line...



On top of that, I'm certain that the Democratic party contains a lot of decent people who are very disenchanted.  A 'rebirth' of the Republicans who tried to document and adhere to a better set of principles could probably attract many of these folks.

I strongly agree. Stick to the constitution and bill of rights, forget the toxic and intolerant narrative from the radical evangelicals, accept reality and tell the truth about issues, difficulties and possible solutions, open discussion, fight corruption, neopotism and cronyism as much as possible, respecting the individual and his independence and responsibility toward himself, lean and efficient gov and above all USA 1st and safe.

This would be a very solid foundation upon which to build.  I like simple and straightforward.

legendary
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August 21, 2016, 04:11:00 PM


On top of that, I'm certain that the Democratic party contains a lot of decent people who are very disenchanted.  A 'rebirth' of the Republicans who tried to document and adhere to a better set of principles could probably attract many of these folks.




I strongly agree. Stick to the constitution and bill of rights, forget the toxic and intolerant narrative from the radical evangelicals....
Most of whom are Muslim, of course.

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