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August 04, 2016, 03:24:43 AM
I don't know anyone who "supports Trump because of his money."

I do think thought that he came to our attention - already famous - because of his money and TV show.  So that gave him a start which some lesser known candidates did not have.

Without exception people that support Trump like his ideas and positions.  Many like myself view his personality as less than likeable but understand that his business positions do not have anything to do with personality.

You meant politician positions, right?

Well, I want to emphasize the image of the successful person that mostly comes from his money. It is not necessarily the money that attracts people, but the image of success, but which success does not guarantee he would be such a successful politician, too. And to me a successful politician is someone who actually successfully stands out to protect people's rights. But you said the influence of this image was minor in attraction compared to his ideas and positions.

I have not seen much of his speech ( not like I could influence the situation in any way ) so in my curiosity I would like to ask you as someone who likes Trump's positions, what are the three best ideas&positions that you find the most attractive in his views?
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August 03, 2016, 06:10:29 PM

Contrary to what most people think, the Trump Wall is NOT a wall to keep Mexicans out and U.S. citizens in. Rather, if Trump becomes President, it's the impenetrable wall that he is going run into that will keep him from carrying out 99+% of the things that he talks about in his campaign.


This I do not believe.  If Trump is a fraud (which I consider to be very possible) that will achieve the effect you describe.  If not, the POTUS has vastly more power to impose his/her will now than only a few cycles ago.  Ironically, this divergence from 'tradition' here in the U.S. was probably greased along specifically by the globalist contingent of the proverbial PTB as a means of achieving 'efficiency.'  It would be great if it ended up biting them hard on the ass.  The simple possibility of this is worth supporting Trump for as far as I am concerned.



Good analogy if he was go back on his promises or commitments the Country could quickly descend in to chaos.
I think the people are so pissed with all the annual/daily lies.
One thing I think should be in his manifesto, is to get Chicago back up and running, they need to have to really good think tanks to make it possible.
More than ever now, its a decent standard of living that is wanted, better wages and not those that just keep you barely afloat and in debt. 
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August 03, 2016, 05:51:00 PM

Contrary to what most people think, the Trump Wall is NOT a wall to keep Mexicans out and U.S. citizens in. Rather, if Trump becomes President, it's the impenetrable wall that he is going run into that will keep him from carrying out 99+% of the things that he talks about in his campaign.


This I do not believe.  If Trump is a fraud (which I consider to be very possible) that will achieve the effect you describe.  If not, the POTUS has vastly more power to impose his/her will now than only a few cycles ago.  Ironically, this divergence from 'tradition' here in the U.S. was probably greased along specifically by the globalist contingent of the proverbial PTB as a means of achieving 'efficiency.'  It would be great if it ended up biting them hard on the ass.  The simple possibility of this is worth supporting Trump for as far as I am concerned.

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August 03, 2016, 04:47:36 PM
Over here in Europe I get the question all the time. "What's the deal with Americans? Are they really supporting Donald Trump for president?!?!".

Sadly enough, when Hillary wins they will be asking why our crazy president is starting so many wars.
I read that Europeans don't have independent mass media, is that true? Why are Europeans against Donald Trump?

Simple.  They're smarter.

They don't eat GMO foods & pop Big Pharma pills at the same high rate as US citizens....
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August 03, 2016, 03:57:40 PM
Over here in Europe I get the question all the time. "What's the deal with Americans? Are they really supporting Donald Trump for president?!?!".

Sadly enough, when Hillary wins they will be asking why our crazy president is starting so many wars.
I read that Europeans don't have independent mass media, is that true? Why are Europeans against Donald Trump?
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August 03, 2016, 03:46:26 PM
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Without exception people that support Trump like his ideas and positions.  Many like myself view his personality as less than likeable but understand that his business positions do not have anything to do with personality.

Prior to super Tue, I vaguely knew only that he was a real estate guy from NY and had some show on TV which I had never seen.  Somehow I did have the idea that he had 'flirted' with the idea of politics for a long time.  I figured that I would not find Trump 'likable' mostly because I typically don't find such people very likable.

After paying some attention to Trump's speeches and interviews and such, I find him more likable than most people.  I enjoy his sense of humor a lot of times and respect his ability to employ strategy and to think on his feet.  It is clear to me that he is highly intelligent.   There are certain instances where he 'hit it out of the park' with me.  His stance on 'American Exceptional-ism' is a good example.



Contrary to what most people think, the Trump Wall is NOT a wall to keep Mexicans out and U.S. citizens in. Rather, if Trump becomes President, it's the impenetrable wall that he is going run into that will keep him from carrying out 99+% of the things that he talks about in his campaign.

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August 03, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
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Without exception people that support Trump like his ideas and positions.  Many like myself view his personality as less than likeable but understand that his business positions do not have anything to do with personality.

Prior to super Tue, I vaguely knew only that he was a real estate guy from NY and had some show on TV which I had never seen.  Somehow I did have the idea that he had 'flirted' with the idea of politics for a long time.  I figured that I would not find Trump 'likable' mostly because I typically don't find such people very likable.

After paying some attention to Trump's speeches and interviews and such, I find him more likable than most people.  I enjoy his sense of humor a lot of times and respect his ability to employ strategy and to think on his feet.  It is clear to me that he is highly intelligent.   There are certain instances where he 'hit it out of the park' with me.  His stance on 'American Exceptional-ism' is a good example.

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August 03, 2016, 01:09:47 PM
Probably, as a balkanac, I do not get every detail right, but I see many would support Trump because he could show enough money and thus prove himself to be a successful person. I do not know whether Donal Trump such a fake person, but I know, it is common scammer tactics to get people rely their decisions on one's wealth. If people believe you are a rich and therefore successful person, you can easily raise charm based on this image and then get people rely their money on your image, that, of course, a scammer would steal. Since in most cases the scammers actually are not rich people, they often fake their wealth. I am just asking the question, why would Donal Trump say he has more money than he really has? Since I currently am not living in America and have no exact idea about the current situation I cannot automatically trust Trump's rivals either, but I could appreciate a new candidate who can win my love without using suspicious tactics.

I don't know anyone who "supports Trump because of his money."

I do think thought that he came to our attention - already famous - because of his money and TV show.  So that gave him a start which some lesser known candidates did not have.

Without exception people that support Trump like his ideas and positions.  Many like myself view his personality as less than likeable but understand that his business positions do not have anything to do with personality.
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August 03, 2016, 08:27:01 AM
Probably, as a balkanac, I do not get every detail right, but I see many would support Trump because he could show enough money and thus prove himself to be a successful person. I do not know whether Donal Trump such a fake person, but I know, it is common scammer tactics to get people rely their decisions on one's wealth. If people believe you are a rich and therefore successful person, you can easily raise charm based on this image and then get people rely their money on your image, that, of course, a scammer would steal. Since in most cases the scammers actually are not rich people, they often fake their wealth. I am just asking the question, why would Donal Trump say he has more money than he really has? Since I currently am not living in America and have no exact idea about the current situation I cannot automatically trust Trump's rivals either, but I could appreciate a new candidate who can win my love without using suspicious tactics.
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August 03, 2016, 07:37:55 AM
‘Is Donald Trump plain crazy?’

Big-name writers now questioning GOP nominee’s sanity


https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-sanity-mental-health-000000384.html

"Leave aside for the moment Trump’s policies, which in my opinion range from the unconstitutional to the un-American to the potentially catastrophic. At this point, it would be irresponsible to ignore the fact that Trump’s grasp on reality appears to be tenuous at best.”
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August 03, 2016, 03:39:23 AM
Over here in Europe I get the question all the time. "What's the deal with Americans? Are they really supporting Donald Trump for president?!?!".

Sadly enough, when Hillary wins they will be asking why our crazy president is starting so many wars.
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August 02, 2016, 08:53:43 PM
Just like Trump!  A heartless woman-hating anti-Muslim @$$h0le....And......ignored.

Buh-bye!

Trump be like "Pow!  Right in the Khizr!"

For my part, I'm not completely sure that Ghazala is really a woman and if it is, I don't particularly hate her.  I feel genuinely sorry for Islamic women in her situation since I am one of those old-school liberals who has not drunk the kool-aid and lost my powers of reason.  I do sometimes regret not turning evil and working in social engineering because you people would be an awfully fun medium in which to sculpt.

Oh ya:  bye-bye

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August 02, 2016, 08:30:26 PM
Just like Trump!  A heartless woman-hating anti-Muslim @$$h0le....And......ignored.

Buh-bye!
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August 02, 2016, 08:07:12 PM
You're as ignorant as Trump for saying the wife was not allowed to speak.

She broke her silence to tell us that SHE'S GRIEVING you moron.  

Broad array of military luminaries condemn Trump over attacks on Khan family:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mccain-adds-latest-salvo-in-gop-dismay-over-trump-clash-with-khan-family/2016/08/01/10ca7e10-57e8-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

McCain, Sanders, Clinton, Ryan, McConnel are 'a broad array of military luminaries'?!?  That's a good one!  Especially on WaPo.  Biggest clown act since PT Barnum was around.

What I didn't see was ultra-feminist Ghazala Khan say a fuckin' thing.  Of course it has only been 12 years for her to get her voice back.  I suggest she get some special clearance from some Imam to stand in front of her husband, briefly, and say a few things since it is politically important to the establishment.

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August 02, 2016, 07:36:05 PM
You're as ignorant as Trump for saying the wife was not allowed to speak.

She broke her silence to tell us that SHE'S GRIEVING you moron.  

Broad array of military luminaries condemn Trump over attacks on Khan family:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mccain-adds-latest-salvo-in-gop-dismay-over-trump-clash-with-khan-family/2016/08/01/10ca7e10-57e8-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
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August 02, 2016, 07:21:23 PM
Absolutely three cheers for Assange & Company.  I wish they'd hack Trump's tax returns for "Real Transparency."

I could offer you many reasons why not to vote for Trump, but I think that by November, you will have your own.

For example, insulting a Gold Star Family grieving for their slain child?

Not very presidential.

At all.


I looked at the insults that Trump hurled at the poor poor Khizr who was just minding his own business.  What I heard was Trump saying that Khizr seemed like an OK guy and expressed gratitude to the guy's son for his service.  And that he wouldn't have minded hearing from the mother.  Heinous!  Awful!

Actually, Trump's reaction was typical genius.  If the Khans are real Muslims of a certain stripe the woman is probably not really allowed to speak.  Most of the drooling idiots on the modern Left believe that inside every Muslim is a Dem voter trying to get out.  Trump called attention to the reality that typical Muslims are a long long long way from traditional liberal principles of the West.

What seemed to have happened is that Trump didn't follow the expectations which the establishment had hoped for, but they went with their playbook anyway figuring (correctly) that most of the idiots would not notice.

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August 02, 2016, 06:49:57 PM
 Absolutely three cheers for Assange & Company.  I wish they'd hack Trump's tax returns for "Real Transparency."

I could offer you many reasons why not to vote for Trump, but I think that by November, you will have your own.

For example, insulting a Gold Star Family grieving for their slain child?

Not very presidential.

At all.
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August 02, 2016, 06:36:06 PM
Nice way to work Ron Paul into this thread!!!   LOL

Oh, and...

"Dear Russia, please hack our electoral process!

Love,

Donald."
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I'll take transparency any way I can get it.  Cheers to Assange, Snowden, Manning, whoever hacked the DNC including the Rooshins if the 'tinfoil hat consipiricy theory' cooked up by the establishment is true.  Keep the info flowing so the rest of us can see how the sausage we pay for is made and possibly someday change some of the stuff about it that we don't like.

BTW hackers/whistleblowers, I'm currently a Trump supporter and am thus EXTRA interested in information about him to see if I should make a correction.  Especially since nothing of value is to be had from the mainstream media.

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August 02, 2016, 06:14:01 PM
Nice way to work Ron Paul into this thread!!!   LOL

Oh, and...

"Dear Russia, please hack our electoral process!

Love,

Donald."




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August 02, 2016, 04:39:58 PM
Americans Are Going to be Disappointed in Election Outcome





There has been a great deal of bombast, of insults, of name-calling, and of chest-beating at both party conventions, but what is disturbingly absent is any mention of how we got to this crisis and how we can get out. From the current foreign policy mess to the looming economic collapse, all we hear is both party candidates saying they will fix it, no problem.

In her convention speech, Hillary Clinton promised that she would "fight terrorism" and defeat ISIS by doing more of what we have been doing all along: bombing. In fact, we have dropped more than 50,000 bombs on ISIS in Iraq and Syria over the past two years and all she can say is that she will drop more. How many more bombs will defeat ISIS? How many more years will she keep us in our longest war, Afghanistan? She doesn't say.

In fact, the New York Times – certainly not hostile to the Clintons – wrote that it was almost impossible to fact-check Hillary's speech because "she delivered a speech that was remarkable without hard facts."

Clinton's top foreign policy advisor said just a day after her convention speech that her big plan for Syria was to go back to square one and concentrate on overthrowing its secular president. How many more thousands more will die if she gets her way? And won't she eventually be forced to launch a massive US ground invasion that will also kill more Americans?

Clinton does not understand that a policy of endless interventionism has brought us to our knees and made us far weaker. Does she really expect us to be the policemen of the world with $20 trillion in debt?

Likewise, Republican candidate Donald Trump misses the point. He promises to bring back jobs to America without any understanding of the policies that led to their departure in the first place. Yes, he is correct that the middle class is in worse shape than when Obama took office, but not once did he mention how it happened: the destructive policies of the Federal Reserve. The financing of our warfare/welfare state through the printing of phony money. Distorted interest rates that encourage consumption and discourage saving and investment.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/08/ron-paul/hillary-trump/.


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