Not that anyone in their right mind ever believed that CW was actually Satoshi, but this whole lawsuit saga has been such a drag, just sucking up time and money for no good reason. Wright's got a long track record of fibbing about Bitcoin, so glad the judge saw the truth at least, even if Wright won't own up to his lies.
So yeah, hopefully were done with this sideshow. No more pointless courtroom episodes. Bitcoin has better things to do than deal with posers pretending to be Satoshi for attention.
Topic: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial - page 3. (Read 4032 times)
CSW can request an appeal, but the appeal judge can look at the request and see if there is any actual real value evidence that can put into question the verdict, to be worth actually going to an appeal case to be seen in court..
appeals dont just happen where a request results in new court room drama, appeals can be denied if there is nothing worthy(no new compelling evidence)
especially with the forgeries, he would have to provide something really substantial, just to even get an appeal to go ahead before even getting into an appeals court
in short he has to show something compelling for it to move to a ongoing appeal case.
i feel he has drained all avenues and cant provide any real evidence worthy of an appeal
The only reason that I can think of that a judge could allow the appeal is so they can do their friend a favor and get paid more with this easy trial or as you've mentioned a new compelling evidences but at this point, I don't think that even if CSW turned the whole world upside down, scouring the earth for a new evidence to prove that he's Satoshi, I don't think that that kind of evidence would show, I guess it's really hard to admit defeat when you're a charlatan and you're so deep in your lies that even being honest isn't going to set you free. appeals dont just happen where a request results in new court room drama, appeals can be denied if there is nothing worthy(no new compelling evidence)
especially with the forgeries, he would have to provide something really substantial, just to even get an appeal to go ahead before even getting into an appeals court
in short he has to show something compelling for it to move to a ongoing appeal case.
i feel he has drained all avenues and cant provide any real evidence worthy of an appeal
CSW can request an appeal, but the appeal judge can look at the request and see if there is any actual real value evidence that can put into question the verdict, to be worth actually going to an appeal case to be seen in court..
appeals dont just happen where a request results in new court room drama, appeals can be denied if there is nothing worthy(no new compelling evidence)
especially with the forgeries, he would have to provide something really substantial, just to even get an appeal to go ahead before even getting into an appeals court
in short he has to show something compelling for it to move to a ongoing appeal case.
i feel he has drained all avenues and cant provide any real evidence worthy of an appeal
appeals dont just happen where a request results in new court room drama, appeals can be denied if there is nothing worthy(no new compelling evidence)
especially with the forgeries, he would have to provide something really substantial, just to even get an appeal to go ahead before even getting into an appeals court
in short he has to show something compelling for it to move to a ongoing appeal case.
i feel he has drained all avenues and cant provide any real evidence worthy of an appeal
I know the final verdict has not been done yet, but I wonder if CW will be given the opportunity to take this on appeal to a higher court... and simply dragging this out for years?
Can someone with some legal knowledge sketch a possible roadmap for a case like this and what options could be followed?
My guess is, CW will go on until the money runs out.. and that might take years with the support he is getting.
Can someone with some legal knowledge sketch a possible roadmap for a case like this and what options could be followed?
My guess is, CW will go on until the money runs out.. and that might take years with the support he is getting.
the Dr bitcoin podcast had an update, celebrating on mic with a british cider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNca4UW9Og
added comedy
more stupidity in the BSV cult (from ayres after the judgement)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNca4UW9Og
added comedy
more stupidity in the BSV cult (from ayres after the judgement)
cool. Now Craig is not Satoshi in law. He is still the worlds formost expert in Enterprise Blockchain.
I know he is Satoshi...but that is moot.
I know more about Enterprise blockchain than all crypto wankers combined and I learnt it all from Craig. They can steal his legacy, but they can not steal his presence.
look Craigs invention will go on..this is only a problem for Craig and i feel for him.
Finally, can Cobra upload Bitcoin whitepaper for UK people? Or will he still be prohibited from it?
not yet
though it was CSW that instigate the old case that defaulted as a CSW win due to c0bra not turning up to defend it..
its became a court judges demand(order) rather than a perceived owners demand/request
so its the courts that have to undo the order as the order comes from a judge, not CSW. its not as simple as CSW didnt have authority in the first place, its a case that its now proven he didnt so the court order should be withdrawn in-light of the new evidence that the previous case was done in error
...
if c0bra does put it up. he is not going to be waiting for CSW to get triggered to see if CSW creates a new court case to fight c0bra once again. instead its the judge will instantly see it as a breach of court order. which comes with penalties
..
ways to get it sorted is:
a. get judge mellor to undo the c0bra default verdict as part of this COPA v CSW case, whereby copa can make a request for any cases involving CSW previously to be undone
b. copa now start cases agaisnt CSW to undo old cases and get his (forged)patents revoked and many many past frauds fixed
Day 22
BREAKING NEWS
The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
How many years, how many working hours, how much workforce and how many things were wasted just to receive a simply, easy and true answer officially - Craig Wright (Wrong) is not Satoshi Nakamoto. Was it really difficult to say that? He didn't have any proof, he was a total liar. People like him deserve punishment for this circus.BREAKING NEWS
The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month.
Out of nowhere, I visited cointelegraph.com to check if there was any interesting news about the recent bull run or what caused loss today and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that judge rules Craig Wright is not satoshi as the first and big news on the website.Finally, can Cobra upload Bitcoin whitepaper for UK people? Or will he still be prohibited from it?
Good news.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.
I think it could make a difference on the BSV chain too. Ultimately his goal was to convince people he was satoshi to get his community to let him unlock satoshi’s coins for himself. Now that he’s been proven to not be satoshi, I don’t think anyone will go along with his plan and use a chain reorganized to give him those coins. In other words, the jig is up.
i never even bothered to even look at BSV price ever, until today due to the court result
seems even their fan girls are reacting -10% at time of posting
sidenote:
bitcoin(btc) has a underlying mining support limit (based on 4cent electric+hardware cost(spread over 2 year life)@600exahash) of ~$25k
meaning bitcoin is market speculating at 3x of base value.. and rising
crapcoin(bsv) has a underlying mining support limit (based on 4cent electric+hardware cost@800petahash) of ~$32k
meaning crapcoin was market speculating this morning at at 4x of base value.. and dropping
i think their bubble is bursting
ok soo.. seems calvin ayres is still kissing CSW ass and staying obedient to BSV scam
To be clear. Craig invented Bitcoin yesterday and he will still be the guy who invented Bitcoin tomorrow. History does not change. Bitcoin also does not change. Also, Craig funded himself as he pointed out under oath. This has no direct affect on me, I still invest in the best tech and for Enterprise blockchain this is still only BSV. Scaling matters.
seems people will never learn even when evidence is thrown at them about the scam and even when a judge slaps them in the face to wake them up 
Good news.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.
Also, should allow a lot of people who were scammed or harassed or otherwise forced to deal with the CSW crap to get some measure of relief, possibly....
-Dave
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.
Also, should allow a lot of people who were scammed or harassed or otherwise forced to deal with the CSW crap to get some measure of relief, possibly....
-Dave
I think it could make a difference on the BSV chain too. Ultimately his goal was to convince people he was satoshi to get his community to let him unlock satoshi’s coins for himself. Now that he’s been proven to not be satoshi, I don’t think anyone will go along with his plan and use a chain reorganized to give him those coins. In other words, the jig is up.
also.. i wonder if this verdict now quashes C0bra's need to follow the older court order to not show white paper on bitcoin.org..
i hope COPA ask the judge to render the c0bra vs CSW case null and void
i hope COPA ask the judge to render the c0bra vs CSW case null and void
This is really good news for everyone except CW and its sponsors (followers) who do not respect the courts and laws anyway and I have no doubt that they will continue with their lies in another court in another country. I don't know what the legal consequences are for CW considering that the verdict will be negative for him, but I hope that the judge will give him a fair scrubbing in his final verdict👨⚖️
If the judge ever publishes his BTC address, I'll pay him a big beer, he definitely deserves it🍺
If the judge ever publishes his BTC address, I'll pay him a big beer, he definitely deserves it🍺
Day 22
BREAKING NEWS
The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month. The judge also announced that we will have to wait 20 days for the full report and for the conclusion of the trial. Given this judgement that should surely indicate that Craig has lied throughout the trial and surely we should be seeing a prosecution for contempt and perjury.
BREAKING NEWS
The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month. The judge also announced that we will have to wait 20 days for the full report and for the conclusion of the trial. Given this judgement that should surely indicate that Craig has lied throughout the trial and surely we should be seeing a prosecution for contempt and perjury.
glad to see he has been told officially by a court of law that he is not what he says he is
lets hope that this sparks some actions against him
minimum: 72hour hold in a mental ward
followed by: charged with perjury
followed by: charged with forgery
also by knowing he has lost i hope his sponsors run.. i hope his council decline servicing him any further..
and thus not allow CSW to even fund any type of appeal to delay actions of criminal justice against him
?? his council say its his human right to make such claims.. ?? (facepalm)
heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto
i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.
so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..
heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto
i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.
so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..
I can kind of see their argument from some sort of namby-pamby liberal stance, but the whole point of this trial is to prove Craig is a fraudster and should not be allowed to continue his fraud or his vexatious litigation against innocent people. Without it Craig is free to lie and claim to be someone he's not. I'm sure Craig will probably just take his case to some other country that will have him but I'm hoping his financial backers will now just pull the plug which should put an end to Craig's legal shenanigans, but hopefully he ends up in prison where he can't do any more damage to the bitcoin community.
people have the right to have their own feelings, and perceptions of themselves.. but not push a lie onto others..
if someone wants to abuse liberal stance of things like pronouns onto others.. EG if a obvious male is standing infront of me trying to proclaim to be female. he better have chopped and inverted his penis and grew breasts and then legally had his name changed and gender changed on all his official forms of identity before coming out as female.. where by during the transition period they call themselves trans, not female
then fine. but to still have all male attributes and not even bothered to do anything to actually transition. then ill call HIM out as mentally impaired and deluded and not play into his delusion
Good news.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.
Also, should allow a lot of people who were scammed or harassed or otherwise forced to deal with the CSW crap to get some measure of relief, possibly....
-Dave
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.
Also, should allow a lot of people who were scammed or harassed or otherwise forced to deal with the CSW crap to get some measure of relief, possibly....
-Dave
Day 22
BREAKING NEWS
The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month. The judge also announced that we will have to wait 20 days for the full report and for the conclusion of the trial. Given this judgement that should surely indicate that Craig has lied throughout the trial and surely we should be seeing a prosecution for contempt and perjury.
I can kind of see their argument from some sort of namby-pamby liberal stance, but the whole point of this trial is to prove Craig is a fraudster and should not be allowed to continue his fraud or his vexatious litigation against innocent people. Without it Craig is free to lie and claim to be someone he's not. I'm sure Craig will probably just take his case to some other country that will have him but I'm hoping his financial backers will now just pull the plug which should put an end to Craig's legal shenanigans, but hopefully he ends up in prison where he can't do any more damage to the bitcoin community.
BREAKING NEWS
The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month. The judge also announced that we will have to wait 20 days for the full report and for the conclusion of the trial. Given this judgement that should surely indicate that Craig has lied throughout the trial and surely we should be seeing a prosecution for contempt and perjury.
?? his council say its his human right to make such claims.. ?? (facepalm)
heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto
i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.
so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..
heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto
i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.
so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..
I can kind of see their argument from some sort of namby-pamby liberal stance, but the whole point of this trial is to prove Craig is a fraudster and should not be allowed to continue his fraud or his vexatious litigation against innocent people. Without it Craig is free to lie and claim to be someone he's not. I'm sure Craig will probably just take his case to some other country that will have him but I'm hoping his financial backers will now just pull the plug which should put an end to Craig's legal shenanigans, but hopefully he ends up in prison where he can't do any more damage to the bitcoin community.
Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?
We should create a documentary about CSW in general, not for the recent court case. I mean, I totally hate him, but he's part of Bitcoin history. I can't wait until we gather all the forgeries in one place, I have just lost count. Petition to call it "How many Wrongs make a Wright?".
(Not mine)Hahaha! It's been a while since I laughed that hard.
- Do you know what's an unsigned integer?
- I do. It's not an integer with...
- With what?
Let's see if security expert Craig Wright can answer the 15th question and get the million dollars!
Judgment is out it seems , csw isn't satoshi . Congrats to the btc community . I was proven wrong and my judgment was poor as no evidence from csw was provided ( which i was expect to happen ) .
?? his council say its his human right to make such claims.. ?? (facepalm)
heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto
i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.
so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..
heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto
i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.
so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..
Day 21
More going over the summary arguments yesterday. One of my personal highlights was COPA's Hough commenting something along the lines of not to commit degree snobbery, but Craig's qualifications were of mediocre grade, from unprestigious universities, and his PHD thesis has been found to have included plagiarised content. Burn. Bringing up Craig's blank expression during the unsigned integers debacle was also enjoyable: https://twitter.com/digitalnaut/status/1767830627615715382
Craig's council also took the stand to make their closing arguments, but the best they had was why hasn't the real Satoshi made an appearance to shoot Craig's accusations down. I mean, what sort of bullshit is that. They really don't have much here apart from Craig is smart and has patents and there's currently no better candidate blah blah blah. If Craig doesn't end up with perjury charges this trial will have been a waste. Craig's council has been pleading today that even if Craig loses it will be against his human rights to be prohibited from claiming to be Satoshi. Personally, I hope he his barred from doing so and maybe his "human rights" case should be left up to a higher court.
Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?
I don't think a show based purely on this trial would be very entertaining, but I do think a film or maybe documentary about the whole Faketoshi saga would be. Maybe we need some sort of conclusion here though to make for a good ending. Andrew O’Hagan's The Satoshi Affair where Craig fled Australia was particularly thrilling reading for me and would certainly make a great part in a film or documentary: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v38/n13/andrew-o-hagan/the-satoshi-affair
More going over the summary arguments yesterday. One of my personal highlights was COPA's Hough commenting something along the lines of not to commit degree snobbery, but Craig's qualifications were of mediocre grade, from unprestigious universities, and his PHD thesis has been found to have included plagiarised content. Burn
. Bringing up Craig's blank expression during the unsigned integers debacle was also enjoyable: https://twitter.com/digitalnaut/status/1767830627615715382Craig's council also took the stand to make their closing arguments, but the best they had was why hasn't the real Satoshi made an appearance to shoot Craig's accusations down. I mean, what sort of bullshit is that. They really don't have much here apart from Craig is smart and has patents and there's currently no better candidate blah blah blah. If Craig doesn't end up with perjury charges this trial will have been a waste. Craig's council has been pleading today that even if Craig loses it will be against his human rights to be prohibited from claiming to be Satoshi. Personally, I hope he his barred from doing so and maybe his "human rights" case should be left up to a higher court.
Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?
I don't think a show based purely on this trial would be very entertaining, but I do think a film or maybe documentary about the whole Faketoshi saga would be. Maybe we need some sort of conclusion here though to make for a good ending. Andrew O’Hagan's The Satoshi Affair where Craig fled Australia was particularly thrilling reading for me and would certainly make a great part in a film or documentary: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v38/n13/andrew-o-hagan/the-satoshi-affair
Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?
in actual fact, that is CSW's ultimate hope
he doesnt care about winning or losing court cases because CSW .WAS being paid for these court cases, not paying them himself. so it was a free lunch to turn up to court as a hobby for him.. his ultimate strategy is not to get rich from crypto ownership, but from movie deals.. as thats what he promised the guys paying for his court case hobby
so lets not give him any media time, lets not satisfy his fame and wealth plans.. let his story die into oblivion while hoping he sits in jail (should copa press for charges against him criminally)
Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?
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