Topic: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial - page 4. (Read 3835 times)

Thank you for your continued coverage of this event.  Any idea when this will be wrapped up?  I get that a specific day isn't possible (or maybe it is?) but perhaps you could give an estimate or a percentage of completion that you believe the trial is?  I'm tired of seeing all this coverage and hope that a loss for Craig means he'll drop this satoshi nonsense and get back to whatever it is he does.  Seeing BSV rally as a result of this trial is a little entertaining though.

Day 19

Craig was back on the stand on Friday and had to answer to the newly presented forged email evidence that he submitted mid-trial (or his wife did). Of course, Craig did what Craig does best and blame someone else but his excuses were even more incredulous this time. He claimed that someone had hacked into his emails and sent the email. COPA's barrister put forward to him the ridiculousness of the claim as there would have only been a 30 minute window for someone to have done this, and all just to make Craig look bad, and then of course they would have had to have hoped that craig then went on to use this in court  . They asked him who might have done this hacking and Craig went on to say that there's a huge list of suspects with motive and his email has been hacked countless times. I'm not sure why the Worlds Number One security expert keeps using this same email address given seemingly every hacker in the world knows about it and can hack it within minutes. Maybe use 2-factor auth? Craig actually even blamed the Dr Bitcoin Podcast's Arthur Van Pelt for the hacking, which is a trial first  .

Just for a quick recap of what actually happened with this email debacle:









I mean, surely the judge has to find him in contempt for this bullshit alone?

The trial has been on a break this week and will resume on Tuesday (I think).

If you want to catch up on the trial check out the newest episode of the Dr Bitcoin Pod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9_GQkMAic

''Craig Wright recently said that bitcoin will never reach $20K. Of course I don't believe him, and the market will probably prove him wrong anyway (again), but why would he say something crazy like this?''

You seems like new in the Bitcoin community.  IO don't mean that you are newbie.  You must mind your own language.  You never know who you are speaking with here in the forum.

Yes, you are right wat I am doing here ?

I am here to inform the true bitcoiners the true facts. Without revealing my identity.  If I go to the court, who do you want me to Support ?  COPA or Craig Wright.  I know you do not like Craig Wright but I do not hate him either.  Even though he is causing a serious damages.  But yes,  I have contacted Justice Mellor on 9 Feb.  2024  through the Court Email but he has not replied me back.  I know I will not get a reply from the court. Because this case has nothing do do with me.  but yet, I can establish myself as Third Party but I don't think it is my time.  I must see  first what the out come of this litigation reveal ?  

What do you think I should do ?  Do you think It is good for me to go to the Court and say  Craig Wright is not right but wrong and Faketoshi ?
 
Of course then the Justice Mellor will ask me to prove my identity.  Do you understand what that involves ?

I know this court very well.   I am an experienced person.   So I must do thing what is right for me to do.  

I am even not ask the court to send me link for watching online because that could lead me to get much more excited. I don't like to get excited.  


But I would prefer,  If someone can provide me an skeleton argument of this case will be appreciated.  

If that were true, you wouldn't be such an attention-whore.   

You are a fraud.  And a laughably pathetic one, at that.

Please go away.

Dude if you are Satoshi and you know that Craig Wright is wrong then WTF are you doing here? You should be in the courtroom to post your evidence there. /s

frank1 and DooMad and HmmMaa, three of them are my crazy bots.  If you three do not understand how cryptography works in Bitcoin and Blockchain then I will find a way to teach you three a lessons.  Bitcoin and Blockchain has nothing to do with encryption protocol as Craig claims and is trying his best to obtain a win from an orchestrated case claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto, which he is not.  Bitcoin and Blockchain which actually I created and only I know how I created them.  I used, PGP protocol of Hal Finney, when he was working for Phil Zimmerman.  When I was interacting as James A Donald in the Cryptography Mailing list with my main pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, then it attracted Hal Finney to contact me.   It was not in 2009 or 2998 but in early May 2007.   Then I planned to send Hal Finney the first Bitcoin transition of 10 BTC. Actually Hal Finney did not know about my Bitcoin Mining system then.  Bitcoin can be traded without Internet Internet or using those codes.  I have designed first Bitcoin as graphic SFT.  Latter used cryptography and  codes to launch on the Internet.  Scaling bitcoin is an issue.   I have written a new protocol for unlimited Bitcoin transaction over the internet and telecommunication channel.  For mining problem, literally I did not needed any miners help.  I could  use only my bot to mine but I wanted people to join in person. But you all have forgotten me and my very integrity and my kindness.   I did not wanted any kind of reward from you.  I am need less.   But you have exploited my  invention and done serious damages to me.   

I created the @HalFin twitter account for Halloween Finance.   Then After interacting with Harrold Finney I copy and paste his photo in my @HalFin twitter account because I wanted to give a sunrise gift from that twitter account to him. that twitter account I created on 6 May 2007 but the creation date has been changed for a secret reason by Jack Dorsey.  The 10 Bitcoin was the first Bitcoin outward transaction I was experimenting with in May 2007 but changed the Time Stamp in January 2009.  When Hal Finney discovered that I was impersonating his name he was a little bit fascinated to find out  about my real identity.  He really thought I was a young Japanese Student.  I approached Hal Finney to work for my Bitcoin and Blockchain project in 2007 and in 2008 but he was employed by Phil Zimmerman and officially he was not allowed to work for any other company or project.  Phil Zimmerman was a contracted engineer for a government secret service agent.  He was watching over Hal Finney  on a regular basis.  

Hal was the man who was impressed by my Bitcoin White Paper and E-Cash Paper which I published, after a few other people replied to me in the cryptography mailing list.   Ray Dillinger was very much skeptical at the beginning but he was convinced after reading my paper properly.   On the other side in the SourceForge and the IRC Channel, I communicated with Gavin Bell, Peter Wuille and a few others as Satoshi Nakamoto and sometimes as Gavin Andresen, then   gave the ''Gavin Andresen'' to Gavin Bell to become a little bit pseudonymous.  But he chose to change his Surname from Bell to Andresen.   For James Lopp I created a twitter account the @JamesonLopp and gave it to him as a gift.  I worked all those years using hundreds of pseudonyms.   I was planning to hire Craig Wright to become a guest speaker at my Blockchain Launching day in 2009, and there was a precool for him to attend my Blockchain Launching conference but he must wear three piece suits and must have red socks.  Craig Wright really admired my plan and he has stuck to it.  

Any conferences or court he has attended he has followed my protocol which I like it.  Only the thing I do not like about Craig Wright is, he has gone over the limit.  I understand his autism and mental monition very well.  He is not a mentally ill person but he I am worried of his wellbeing as he already admitted that he was going to commit suicide.  I don't want him to commit suicide after losing this litigation.   If he does harm himself, then I will ask the Court to become aware of it and respond to my email and find a good solution for COPA -v- Craig Wright Litigation case.  If the Court finding difficulties to justify his claim as he has no proof that he invented Bitcoin and written the Bitcoin White Paper, then the court can ask the COPA team to find real Satoshi Nakamoto and prove that Craig Wright is a brazen liar.  I have read the report of  Ripple CTO David Swartz who has debunked Craig Wright's claim.

I must find a good solution to this huge problem.  Officially I never wanted to be known for the invention of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology but as the situation has gone worse, I am thinking of finding a proper solution.   It is necessary now because it involves many serious matters which the authorities need to know.  I am not a Cipherpunk but I am a Cybernaut or Cyberpunk.   Wherever I am and whoever I am, I know it does not matter for the Bitcoin and Blockchain community because I have passed the Bitcoin Torch to Gavin Andresen but Wladimir  V. D. Laan has hijacked it.  Which is not right.  I understand Craig's boldness and his claim that BTC is not Bitcoin but BSV is the true Bitcoin as he claims but the true fact is BTC is Bitcoin Trans Cash. I designed it in this way in 2007.  Thus Craig's claim has no backing as he is not the inventor or architect or Chief scientist of Blockchain.  That nChain is part of the Bitcoin Blockchain which I designed.  If does not eliminate his arrogant claim and become a civilized person like my Japanese Culture then I will put a ban on Craig Wright myself obtaining a Court Order.   Bitcoin dot Org now can republish my Bitcoin White Paper tomorrow and show Craig Wright my permission.   If I need to file a case to get the order from any court as he has infringed my Bitcoin White Paper and has caused a serious damage to all the Bitcoin developers then I am asking the COPA Team follow my instruction otherwise I will reveal my identity myself on 12 March or may on the 16 March 2024 to celebrate Birthday of the Greatest Prophet of all times Lord Moses Ben David Be Levi Ben Israel Ben Abraham Ben Adam Ben El'Hanu.

What we need is proper decentralization in the Bitcoin Blockchain industry. As we know that Central Banks are worried about Bitcoin but like the Blockchain.  I was thinking the governments would authorize the central Banks to launch the CBDC but the governments are delaying.  I understand once the government creates the CBDC then it will secretly help the public to become more independent than the old fiat financial model. But the government also knows that after the creation of CBDC, the government will lose control dramatically because then people will be able to bypass bank and credit regulation to buy more bitcoin. I want to see CBDC come into circulation soon.

franky1,  please do not worry about whether I am Bitcoin Moses or Leez Hamilton. After reading my post if you do not understand then you must provide proof of evidence.  If you cannot then please be quiet and mind your own business.  Anybody can claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto.   I recommend that it is your turn to claim,  We need more Satoshi candidates.  There is always a place for New Satoshi in the Bitcoin Space.

But if you are an agent working for governments or financial elite or group then, no problem, just know that you do not know everything that you need to know.  So pay attention and learn so it will benefit yourself and others.  

Now days governments are struggling to produce good governance so we must help the governments to achieve those things that governments want to achieve. So I am wishing you all to join me properly and help me to help 99.99% people of the world.   If I do not care for what I am doing then just leave the Bitcoin talk forum and go for a lifelong holiday somewhere you like and leave me and friends and co-workers alone.   But if you feel good then welcome to Bitcoin Inner Circle.

funny part is in this topic i have corrected details, explained things, whilst doomad and the leez hmmMaa trolls just here for the drama

side note leez/HmmMaa and doomad enjoy other networks they want to consider to be called bitcoin networks
theres the BSV and the Msat IOU(LN) crew of trolls.. two cultish groups all wanting to recruit actual bitcoin(btc) people away from bitcoin, advertising their admiration of their godlike idols that made their favourite other networks

if only those three actually took the time to learn what bitcoin actually is rather then cry about how their recruitment plans are not working out
doomads cult is getting just as bad as the CSW cult

Because Faketoshi topics are a magnet for trolls and disinformation agents.  Like flies on dung.

I've already got ~LeezHamilton and ~franky1 on distrust and on my ignore list.  ~HmmMAA is on distrust and likely soon to be on ignore.  Filter out the scum and the topic (and the forum in general) is much nicer to read.

Fortunately, it shouldn't be too much longer before this little pantomime comes to a close.  At the end of this trial, we can hopefully draw a line under all this farce, all the delusional little Wright supporters will be too embarrassed to show their faces anymore and we can all move on and forget about it. 

Why LeezHamilton does not understand difference between cryptography hashing, signature and encryption?

No body can go to heaven to find out - if whether the God exist ?  But any one can go to the High Court and claim to to be Satoshi Nakamoto.  For Craig Wright - he knows that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. He also knows that it is unwise for him to claim that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.

Even though he is trying his best to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.  But all the time the Bitcoin experts proving that he has forged the documents. He is claiming that Bitcoin is not encrypted it is bloody paper ledger and he want alter the Blockchain. Why he does not understand that each block of Bitcoin is encrypted with SHA-256 and other cryptographic methods ?  Is he so fool that he has no clues what the Bitcoin is ?





 

This Faketoshi circus is getting next level crazy.
It's funny to hear that his sister Danielle DeMorgan said that once she saw him dressed as a ninja, and other time he was working in a room full of computers, and that was the evidence for her that he created Bitcoin.
I thought that Faketoshi was the only crazy member of his family, but oh boy was I wrong  

cussing infront of the judge


closing arguments

 What will be the next session on 12 March 2024 ?

The cross examination has completed for both party.  Is Justice Mellor alone is going to make the decision if whether is is fraud and the brazen liar ?   Supposed say Craig has lost the case and judge is not satisfied with Craig's forged documents and COPA win the case after 12 March.  What kind of legal orders Justice Mellor will issue on Craig ?

How will it affect Craig's litigation against the Bitcoin Core Developers ?

If Justice Mellor is unable to make correct judgement for some bureaucratic reason or for some other reasons for instance, neither can confirm that Craig is liar or he can confirm that Craig has forged the doccuments but he cannot justify if whether Craig is Satoshi ?  So what could be Justice Mellor's verdict on the main issue that Craig is not Satoshi, which he is not.  

Suppose, Craig and his barrister convince Justice Mellor that, if whether he is the author  of the Bitcoin White Paper or nor, it is not COPAS business to file this litigation case against him. He can argue that COPA is not the author of Bitcoin White Paper. So the COPA's litigation against him is illegal. He can say only the real Satoshi Nakamoto can legally  file litigation case against Craig for infringement of the  Bitcoin White Paper. Therefore, how COPA can sue Craig ?  

While the real Satoshi Nakamoto did not appoint COPA to sue Craig, so Craig can just evade and ask the Judge to throw the case out, because COPA has no legal right to sue Craig.

If this litigation is orchestrated by Craig Wright and Jack Dorsey with a mutual agreement, its mean this litigation case is not a genuine case. As the real party the author of Bitcoin White Paper is absence. So,  you Bitcoiners must try to understand that a cat is hidden inside the blanket. Some one must shake the blanket and let the cat out. So all the Bitcoin developers and investors and traders will see that this Saga Bitcoin Drama case is just a mock saga drama as the Coingeek wrote today in a article below.

What are the odd ?  

https://coingeek.com/sights-and-sounds-of-the-satoshi-trial-copa-v-wright/

Well, they usually push back on the excuses/lies, but only once and then just quickly move on. You would think they would push him a little further given the ridiculousness of the blatant lie, but hopefully the judge is aware of the fancifulness of Craig's excuses and that's all that is needed. Craig's lies are pretty much the legal equivalent of the dog ate my homework. These are all documents he submitted as proof of his claims and now they're doing the opposite it's the shaggy defence of it wasn't me. Why can't Craig just go back and get all the "original" unedited non-hacked documents (because obviously he can't because they don't exist, but I'm surprised the lawyers haven't asked for these). It's like a murderer sat in court and the judge asking why he was found covered in blood, holding the murder-weapon and a receipt for the knife in his pocket, and the only person with motive to commit the murder is that person, but his defence is it must have been someone else or the evidence was planted. How many forgeries are enough? Every document he has submitted has been proven to be forged or tampered with in some way and many are blatant, even the physical notepad should have ended any doubt. If Craig isn't found in contempt and there isn't another trial for that with potential jailtime I think this whole process will have been a farce. If Craig loses this case is he going to be barred from claiming to be Satoshi, or just in the UK? Is he going to just ignore that and possibly move to a different country and still make the same claims whilst no doubt appealing the verdict. I'm really hoping he gets a taste of his own medicine and ends up in several lawsuits that he's never out of court.

Oh, and we've nearly got a bingo:

i hope copa lawyers actually use the airport bag security check-in analogy
it doesnt matter if someone claims someone else did it/hacked/swapped things/added. what you hand in needs to be checked by you because once handed in, its your responsibility and everything is then on you

(well not the analogy itself, but point out that his excuses hold no weight as whats filed is his responsibility)

CSW's efforts are akin to a school kid handing in his homework. the teacher gives him an F grade and the kid is like "um um but but, its not my homework sir, please give me an A for effort".. in this analogy he deserves detention, twice. not just a F grade

Day 17

The shortest day of the trial so far at little over an hour due to Craig's side dismissing most of their witnesses. Not much happened obviously, but the day opened with COPA confirming the recent email forgeries and they would have a report ready on them soon.

Day 18

The "cryptocurrency expert" Prof Sarah Meiklejohn came across very well. It's funny how lawyers try to spin things in both ways. When Craig is caught plagiarising and his excuse is I was hacked, it's always well, is it possible he was hacked?, and the answer of course is I suppose it is possible, but just like it's possible aliens from another dimension also beamed the forgeries onto his computer from their spaceship. I mean, you can't prove that they didn't do that, so I suppose it is possible. When they were going over Craig's failed signing sessions Meiklejohn gave several ways Craig could have faked them including domain spoofing, wifi-hijacking etc, and Craig's team were pushing these as pie-in-the-sky claims but Meiklejohn's it is possible was dismissed as unlikely fancifulness, even though she stated she didn't believe this is what likely happened (I don't think Craig is smart enough to do this when all it takes is changing a bit of code in electrum, which is probably what he did).

Zem Gao, a blatant Craig Wright fanboy was also cross-examined. I missed the first part of his evidence and him being sworn in and I initially thought he was on COPA's side he was making Craig look so bad. Not sure why Craigs defence had him on, and they ended with going through all his pro-Craig writings at the end which was pretty much an embarrassing slam dunk for his impartiality.

There was no day in court today and the trial will resume tomorrow, and if I understand correctly, Craig is back on the stand to answer the recent admission of the forged email. This should be interesting, but of course he will almost certainly just blame someone else. Hopefully both COPA and the judge take this opportunity to grill Craig rather than just letting him pass the buck to someone else, especially as this is a forgery that took place during the trial. For those wanting a quick refresher here is what happened with the forged email:


https://twitter.com/oisyn/status/1763202102266929394

If you want to enjoy another couple of Craig's unbelievably stupid and sloppy forgeries here's a two more:

https://twitter.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1763201157713838500
https://twitter.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1763252633177915783

And if you want to read the COPA forensic reports used during the trial here they are: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/4y3gdele4foy15006z8ch/h?rlkey=scs42wew1o3vwfv0nduhc43dm&e=4&dl=0

Day 16:

Mostly boring in court today and ended a little early today as Craig's council decided not to cross-examine their own forensic experts given the obvious. COPA witness Patrick Madden was cross-examined for most of it and I don't think he came across great or did any favours for COPA, but the day ended on an absolute bombshell with the revelation Craig had supplied a forged email purported to be from his previous lawyers and even better was put forward by Craig's own council. Craig's previous lawyers confirmed the faked emails Craig has submitted so that's another nail in Craig's coffin surely. Further details on what actually happened here: https://blog.bitmex.com/copa-vs-csw-day-16-craigs-lawyers-do-copas-job-for-them/


Oh, well I guess Craig is Satoshi then . Did they hire a so-called security exert who gets hacked multiple times a year? I haven't seen any evidence of him doing anything with the Australian stock exchange, and the same goes for most of Craig's fabricated C.V. What Craig usually does - assuming the claim isn't just a flat-out lie in the first place - is take a kernel of the truth and either inject some backdated lies into it or shit some more lies all over it, sometimes both. Take the meeting minutes from BDO Kendalls: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.828.34.pdf

BDO, a company Craig allegedly worked for, but obviously never had anything to do with bitcoin, so Craig forges and backdates some 'proof' that alleges he mentioned bitcoin long before the publication of the whitepaper, only he gets caught in this physical fraud by writing the notes on a notepad confirmed by the makers to not have existed at the time. Craig lies so much it's impossible to know when he's telling the truth, but you can usually assume he is not.

Christen Ager-Hanssen released his evidence against Craig today which is worth a read:

https://medium.com/@agerhanssen/bdo-drive-october-2007-extracted-2023-you-wanted-evidence-82593c431a11

Along with a load of texts: https://twitter.com/agerhanssen/status/1762110519010312307

For those wanting a current update I would recommend checking out the latest Dr Bitcoin podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aproxaMcFL4

You shouldn't give that troll the time of day or react to his nonsense.  

Responding to troll often just makes the problem worse since trolls feed off the attention.  Instead, the best way is usually to just ignore him, and with no reaction from others, he will lose interest and go away.

LeezHamilton.. aka bitcoinmoses.. shut up and disappear again for a few months.. come up with something actually worthy of posting

had to go through notes..
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/nsw/NSWSC/2003/1011.html

i know that you will try to find bombshells like "oh look mr greer of ASX told a CSW employee that CSW worked for ASX"* but that is later called into question in later cases, including how CSW tries to suggest he had no business with ASX and was only contacting lower level employee's of ASX, and such..
 funny part is CSW having a "system admin" who said greer said to "system admin" that CSW worked for ASX..
.. wait CSW needed a system admin..
.. wait "system admin" didnt know by default if CSW was working with ASX via them actually actively doing things for ASX
.. wait system admit had doubts of CSW involvement in ASX
(also)
didnt you think CSW was the system admin.. oh wait he employs people, but doesnt do the "genius"work himself
the rabbit hole only gets bigger from there.
just wait for the plot twists


by the way have you heard of google, you can find the court cases yourself. all of them, try it.
oh by the way demorgan went into default as it had no assets, no product no proprietary, no ip, no patent
because CSW and first wife left MR holding an empty bag of pretend big investment of big client
(you will soon learn it the more you read of the cases 2003-2005)

*keep in mind your own earlier link how ASX dont outsource contractors and done the monitoring in-house (not CSW)
using software that was not even a demorgan/CSW creation.. but sold as such with fake licence to pretend its a demorgan product
(much like he is trying now with bitcoin, falsely claiming it as his software to re-licence it)