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June 21, 2015, 10:17:58 AM
Things have changed a lot dude. The FIFA can survive without UEFA. Europe is a stagnant market, compared to the booming ones in places such as Latin America, Eurasia, Africa, China.etc. And that is why the World Cup is more popular than the Euro Cup. As long as football super-powers such as Argentina and Brazil stay loyal to the FIFA, they won't feel the pinch. On the other hand, UEFA will be isolated and they will lose their hold in the day to day running of FIFA.

Yeah but World Cup is held 1 time in every 4 years. UEFA has many more big competitions then, like European Cup, Champions League, European League, European Super Cup, and some of national big leagues, e.g Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Serie A, etc. I think UEFA has same level with FIFA.

As far as India is concerned, football is a long way behind cricket in terms of popularity, although the situation might be a little bit better in the cities. I know this, because I regularly visit India. The revenues generated by cricket is almost 100 times of that generated by football. Even the recently launched Indian Super League generated only a fraction of the revenues which the Indian Premier League got.

Wow Indian Super League has invited many football legends there to join some Indian Club. I hope there are more Indian people that get attracted to football.
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June 21, 2015, 08:48:15 AM
Football is really popular in India too. 3 out of 7 kids play football here in India. It is not as popular as cricket but yes, it is passsionately followed by a lot of Indians. The reason why the international team isn't so popular is because Indian government fails to provide the kind of stage, opportunities and pay to such talents. The parents too, feel that it is better to be a mainstream engineer or a doctor than have a shot at football.

As far as India is concerned, football is a long way behind cricket in terms of popularity, although the situation might be a little bit better in the cities. I know this, because I regularly visit India. The revenues generated by cricket is almost 100 times of that generated by football. Even the recently launched Indian Super League generated only a fraction of the revenues which the Indian Premier League got.
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June 21, 2015, 08:43:58 AM
We can give Asian the chance as host of World Cup again, it would be a football development to the continent.

Football is quite popular in Asia, with the exception of China and India, the two most populous nations. Most of the GCC nations (such as the UAE and Qatar) are football crazy ones. If the FIFA want to globalize the game, then it should give China a chance to host the World Cup. (I don't think that India has the capability to do it).

Football is really popular in India too. 3 out of 7 kids play football here in India. It is not as popular as cricket but yes, it is passsionately followed by a lot of Indians. The reason why the international team isn't so popular is because Indian government fails to provide the kind of stage, opportunities and pay to such talents. The parents too, feel that it is better to be a mainstream engineer or a doctor than have a shot at football.
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June 21, 2015, 08:11:11 AM
I think that the best solution is to disband FIFA once and for all or alternatively we need that UEFA will leave FIFA. Without European clubs and countries FIFA can say goodbye.

Things have changed a lot dude. The FIFA can survive without UEFA. Europe is a stagnant market, compared to the booming ones in places such as Latin America, Eurasia, Africa, China.etc. And that is why the World Cup is more popular than the Euro Cup. As long as football super-powers such as Argentina and Brazil stay loyal to the FIFA, they won't feel the pinch. On the other hand, UEFA will be isolated and they will lose their hold in the day to day running of FIFA.
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June 21, 2015, 08:06:23 AM
I think that the best solution is to disband FIFA once and for all or alternatively we need that UEFA will leave FIFA. Without European clubs and countries FIFA can say goodbye.
I like the situation in boxing - there are a lot of federation WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO etc. There is no main and only, one big centralized world organisation. Something like in bitcoin.
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June 21, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
We can give Asian the chance as host of World Cup again, it would be a football development to the continent.

Football is quite popular in Asia, with the exception of China and India, the two most populous nations. Most of the GCC nations (such as the UAE and Qatar) are football crazy ones. If the FIFA want to globalize the game, then it should give China a chance to host the World Cup. (I don't think that India has the capability to do it).
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June 21, 2015, 06:59:41 AM
I can imagine their meeting to have the world event held in the summer in a country where the temperatures hit 120 degrees in the shade. How much can we line our pockets with for doing something even this stupid?

Qatar has promised that it will use revolutionary cooling techniques, to lower the temperature inside the stadiums. Qatar is filthy rich (thanks to the LNG sales), and they can even afford to conduct the Winter Olympics in Doha at the peak of the summer season. So, let them waste their money. Why bother about it? 

Yeah they have what everyone want, money. With money, they can make or build everything with futuristic technology. We can't underestimate Middle East countries again, especially Qatar and UEA. And, I think they can become host of World Cup with money too. imo, actually there is nothing wrong with this, we can give Asian the chance as host of World Cup again, it would be a football development to the continent.
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June 21, 2015, 06:51:30 AM
I can imagine their meeting to have the world event held in the summer in a country where the temperatures hit 120 degrees in the shade. How much can we line our pockets with for doing something even this stupid?

Qatar has promised that it will use revolutionary cooling techniques, to lower the temperature inside the stadiums. Qatar is filthy rich (thanks to the LNG sales), and they can even afford to conduct the Winter Olympics in Doha at the peak of the summer season. So, let them waste their money. Why bother about it? 
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June 21, 2015, 06:12:03 AM
I can imagine their meeting to have the world event held in the summer in a country where the temperatures hit 120 degrees in the shade. How much can we line our pockets with for doing something even this stupid?
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June 21, 2015, 03:51:54 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/football/fifa-corruption-charges-justice-department/index.html

The U.S. Justice Department plans to announce corruption charges against senior officials at FIFA, the world's soccer governing body, law enforcement officials say.

Up to 14 people are expected to be charged Wednesday based on an indictment in federal court in New York.

Arrests were being made overnight in Zurich, where members of the scandal-plagued organization were gathering for an election Friday that could give its leader Sepp Blatter a fifth term.

Deep details on the charges have yet to be disclosed, but one thing is known - the officiating crimes during last year's World Cup games are expected to be largely ignored. Upon hearing the news of this last bit, NED's Robben is quoted as saying "Phew! I don't take dives to get sacked!" (Translated from Dutch.)

Anyone have an opinion on this?

Fifa had it coming...they knew they were wrong.. Sepp Blatter of all people had been facing so many allegation.. and still he continued to, wat I believe, adhere to corrupt practices..
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June 21, 2015, 03:37:47 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/football/fifa-corruption-charges-justice-department/index.html

The U.S. Justice Department plans to announce corruption charges against senior officials at FIFA, the world's soccer governing body, law enforcement officials say.

Up to 14 people are expected to be charged Wednesday based on an indictment in federal court in New York.

Arrests were being made overnight in Zurich, where members of the scandal-plagued organization were gathering for an election Friday that could give its leader Sepp Blatter a fifth term.

Deep details on the charges have yet to be disclosed, but one thing is known - the officiating crimes during last year's World Cup games are expected to be largely ignored. Upon hearing the news of this last bit, NED's Robben is quoted as saying "Phew! I don't take dives to get sacked!" (Translated from Dutch.)

Anyone have an opinion on this?

Doesn't surprise me.. actions had to be taken.. and this is a step in the right direction

Do you feel that the actions had to be taken by US Justice Department not surprise you? I am curious what the deal by US, interrupt FIFA maybe. I think football (we can say soccer) is not majority sport in US, except football (yeah I mean the real football there), basketball, and baseball.
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June 20, 2015, 12:58:30 PM
And I think there is possibility to the corruptors to join this committee, and will impede the investigation. Or they can point the innocent person, to save their selves. It's not that easy, since the corruption by FIFA has happened for long time.

Finding the right person to head the investigation team can be a huge challenge, but I hope, eventually the right people will be found. Giving the same power to the pro-NATO guys is not the solution, as a NATO-headed investigation will be extremely biased, and they will attempt every trick to take the hosting rights away from Russia and Qatar.

Actually I think it's easy to find who that can head the investigation, since there are some capable one. The problem is on his subordinates that can be instigated to cooperate with the suspects and get bribe from them. Btw, we hope the problems in FIFA can be solved soon and no more scandals again.
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June 20, 2015, 12:46:59 PM
tell me a sport where there is no corruption Smiley
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June 20, 2015, 11:20:22 AM
fifa busted...
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June 20, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
And I think there is possibility to the corruptors to join this committee, and will impede the investigation. Or they can point the innocent person, to save their selves. It's not that easy, since the corruption by FIFA has happened for long time.

Finding the right person to head the investigation team can be a huge challenge, but I hope, eventually the right people will be found. Giving the same power to the pro-NATO guys is not the solution, as a NATO-headed investigation will be extremely biased, and they will attempt every trick to take the hosting rights away from Russia and Qatar.
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June 20, 2015, 11:14:47 AM
They're not charging all of FIFA. Just some officials related to CONCACAF.

I don't see what the link between CONCACAF and host selection to world cup, but US will try to ban Russia become the host. There are some CONMEBOL officials that was charged too anyway, and I think it was related to Brazil as host of last world cup.
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June 20, 2015, 10:57:39 AM
They're not charging all of FIFA. Just some officials related to CONCACAF.
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June 20, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
Suspending the corrupt members would be a best method if the corruptors want to admit their mistakes honestly, and what the authorities will do to make that. Anyways, I'm sure the suspending method will spend long time to be done, and I don't know who will do that. US? Or NATO?

US and NATO? May be for this time, the United Sates should stay out, rather than stick their nose in other people's business. IMO, the best solution will be to form an investigative committee within FIFA itself, headed by the former greats of the game. They should investigate the corrupt practices, and suspend anyone who is found to be guilty. 

And I think there is possibility to the corruptors to join this committee, and will impede the investigation. Or they can point the innocent person, to save their selves. It's not that easy, since the corruption by FIFA has happened for long time.
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June 20, 2015, 06:52:35 AM
Suspending the corrupt members would be a best method if the corruptors want to admit their mistakes honestly, and what the authorities will do to make that. Anyways, I'm sure the suspending method will spend long time to be done, and I don't know who will do that. US? Or NATO?

US and NATO? May be for this time, the United Sates should stay out, rather than stick their nose in other people's business. IMO, the best solution will be to form an investigative committee within FIFA itself, headed by the former greats of the game. They should investigate the corrupt practices, and suspend anyone who is found to be guilty. 
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