Using Armory on the BCH chain - page 11.

PhoenixFire

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Quote from: jojo69 on January 19, 2018, 03:52:53 AM

thanks droark

I hope this is a more appropriate venue than squawking at you in IRC

alas, still "node offline" after killing DB and restarting

Tried ABC 0.16.1 as per the below?

Quote from: agibby5 on January 05, 2018, 07:19:45 PM

Spent quite a long time with bitcoin-abc-0.16.2 and armory 0.96.3.991 and trying to get it to work.

This combo throws in the bitcoind log.
2018-01-04 21:34:48 PROCESSMESSAGE: INVALID MESSAGESTART version peer=0

However, bitcoin-abc-0.16.1 and armory 0.96.3.991 allows the connection to happen:
2018-01-05 07:11:02 receive version message: [127.0.0.1:34586] Armory:0.96.3.991: version 70012, blocks=-1, us=127.0.0.1:8333, peer=0

Just a heads up to others. I believe something changed in the bitcoin-abc repo around 12/3/2017 surrounding this PROCESSMESSAGE output.

jojo69

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thanks droark

I hope this is a more appropriate venue than squawking at you in IRC

alas, still "node offline" after killing DB and restarting

droark

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Shut down Armory, wait a few seconds, and then check the task manager for instances of ArmoryDB. If any exist, kill them. Once they're all gone, start Armory again. Hopefully this will do the trick.

jojo69

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So, I opted to forgo the "tricks" and go ahead and temporarily run a BCH node.

I downloaded and installed Bitcoin ABC version v0.16.2.0-6af5e93 (64-bit) and let it fully sync, only took about 28 hours.

Upgraded Armory to the latest RC3 0.96.3.992-beta-8a7f18a499

Dealt with my custom pathing, which I think I understand.

Nuked my old core armory DB and got armory to build the DB against the ABC install.

If I try and let Armory manage QT it hangs on "preparing databases"

If I run ABC manually Armory loads up the wallets and shows expected BCH balances (which differ from BTC balances as I moved all those onchain first) but in the lower right it reports "Node Offline (blockheight as of armory launch)

I feel like I have made a lot of progress and am very close, but I am stuck here.

logs
https://pastebin.com/yypEZvFu
https://pastebin.com/751Uzqqa

I am so sorry to bother you guys...I really tried.

alomar

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oh please gaud, allow me to find a fast way to search thousands of UTXO's for the few BCH address claims i make from time to time from the Coin Control window using the trick method...

P0ST

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I was able to spend BCH from a wallet, however the lockbox fails to send. The error dialog box states "the transaction that you just executed failed with the following error message:rate limited free transaction". I have tried enabling and disabling RBF protection and adjusting fee rates. Anyone else have this issue or know why I might be getting that error?

Log file:
https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/XrQBJb4d

goatpig

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Lockbox will show their proper balance assuming they had coins pre fork.

P0ST

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Hello,

Looking for some advice here (am noob).

I have BCH trapped in a lockbox. I have moved all BTC and BCH from the addresses that fund the lockbox post fork, and all BTC from the lockbox post fork. I have BCH remaining in the lockbox. I just synced an ABC node against Armory hoping that I would see the BCH amount appear in the lockbox, but it's not showing.

Question: Should Armory be showing the BCH amount in my lockbox once it has synced with the BCH node? Or will the lockbox amount show "0" if there are no funds in the wallets that fund the lockbox?

goatpig

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Quote from: alomar on January 10, 2018, 12:51:08 PM

but for what purpose?

So as to allow for the use of compressed pubkeys at roughly the same cost as compressed P2PKH, without murdering the Python wallet code over it.

achow101

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Quote from: alomar on January 10, 2018, 12:51:08 PM

what is that, btw?: P2SH-P2PK. pay to public-key? isn't that an old relic from the past? wasn't the Base58 format introduced way back when to obscure the public key? unless of course, the P2SH part obscures it via the redeem script...but for what purpose?

Yes, it is pay to pubkey. The P2SH part obscures that because the pubkey is part of the redeem script. The reason for doing P2PK instead of P2PKH is that it takes up less space than P2PKH nested in P2SH.

alomar

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Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 09, 2018, 10:35:01 PM

Quote from: alomar on January 09, 2018, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 09, 2018, 04:53:20 PM

The P2SH-P2PK address type is unique to Armory (as far as I know). Unless you want to craft your own transactions, you're limited to dealing with whatever forks Armory has a signer for - you can't just export the private keys and call it a day.
P2PKH is universally supported, and P2SH-P2WPKH is supported by other segwit wallets (assuming they follow the standards).

so ALL Armory legacy addresses are in this unique format? meaning you can't export their private keys to another wallet? makes sense as the root key is unique afaict (2 rows of 9 blocks of 4 letters each, all lower case). that's good to know; don't bother wasting time exporting...

No, you misunderstand me. Not all Armory addresses. For one, P2SH-P2PK was only introduced in 0.96 and HD/root key wallets predate that AFAIK.
You can choose to have addresses in any (and all) of the 3 listed formats in one Armory wallet right now. I honestly don't remember what the default was when I first booted up Armory, but I suspect it was P2PKH. Up to you to decide which format you use (this is in the settings), and you can check which addresses (used or unused) are in which format via the wallet properties.

Edit: If your addresses are specifically P2SH-P2PK, then yeah you are going to have a bad time trying to get the exported keys to refer to the right addresses in other wallets. Armory does say that it requires 0.96+ to spend from them.
P2SH-P2WPKH is a bit less smooth, but doable. P2PKH is supported by everything bitcoin related that isn't ancient.

Does that help? Don't want to leave you with false ideas about it

that helps alot, i did misunderstand you. what is that, btw?: P2SH-P2PK. pay to public-key? isn't that an old relic from the past? wasn't the Base58 format introduced way back when to obscure the public key? unless of course, the P2SH part obscures it via the redeem script...but for what purpose?

PhoenixFire

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Quote from: alomar on January 09, 2018, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 09, 2018, 04:53:20 PM

The P2SH-P2PK address type is unique to Armory (as far as I know). Unless you want to craft your own transactions, you're limited to dealing with whatever forks Armory has a signer for - you can't just export the private keys and call it a day.
P2PKH is universally supported, and P2SH-P2WPKH is supported by other segwit wallets (assuming they follow the standards).

so ALL Armory legacy addresses are in this unique format? meaning you can't export their private keys to another wallet? makes sense as the root key is unique afaict (2 rows of 9 blocks of 4 letters each, all lower case). that's good to know; don't bother wasting time exporting...

No, you misunderstand me. Not all Armory addresses. For one, P2SH-P2PK was only introduced in 0.96 and HD/root key wallets predate that AFAIK.
You can choose to have addresses in any (and all) of the 3 listed formats in one Armory wallet right now. I honestly don't remember what the default was when I first booted up Armory, but I suspect it was P2PKH. Up to you to decide which format you use (this is in the settings), and you can check which addresses (used or unused) are in which format via the wallet properties.

Edit: If your addresses are specifically P2SH-P2PK, then yeah you are going to have a bad time trying to get the exported keys to refer to the right addresses in other wallets. Armory does say that it requires 0.96+ to spend from them.
P2SH-P2WPKH is a bit less smooth, but doable. P2PKH is supported by everything bitcoin related that isn't ancient.

Does that help? Don't want to leave you with false ideas about it

alomar

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Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 09, 2018, 04:53:20 PM

Quote from: alomar on January 09, 2018, 04:11:13 PM

Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 08, 2018, 07:50:37 PM

One thing to note, you will need to split BCH in Armory if your coins are in P2SH-P2PK addresses.

can you explain this further?

The P2SH-P2PK address type is unique to Armory (as far as I know). Unless you want to craft your own transactions, you're limited to dealing with whatever forks Armory has a signer for - you can't just export the private keys and call it a day.
P2PKH is universally supported, and P2SH-P2WPKH is supported by other segwit wallets (assuming they follow the standards).

so ALL Armory legacy addresses are in this unique format? meaning you can't export their private keys to another wallet? makes sense as the root key is unique afaict (2 rows of 9 blocks of 4 letters each, all lower case). that's good to know; don't bother wasting time exporting...

PhoenixFire

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Quote from: alomar on January 09, 2018, 04:11:13 PM

Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 08, 2018, 07:50:37 PM

One thing to note, you will need to split BCH in Armory if your coins are in P2SH-P2PK addresses.

can you explain this further?

The P2SH-P2PK address type is unique to Armory (as far as I know). Unless you want to craft your own transactions, you're limited to dealing with whatever forks Armory has a signer for - you can't just export the private keys and call it a day.
P2PKH is universally supported, and P2SH-P2WPKH is supported by other segwit wallets (assuming they follow the standards).

alomar

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Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 08, 2018, 07:50:37 PM

One thing to note, you will need to split BCH in Armory if your coins are in P2SH-P2PK addresses.

can you explain this further?

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That is good news, thanks for the confirmation and tips. My plan B if I had to split with Armory would have been (as possibly misinterpreted):

1. send bitcoins to new armory1 wallet (wait for confirmations)
2. rsync/copy my huge bitcoin folder to my laptop in same relative location
3. install armory2 on laptop and launch it offline checking it is using the copied folder
4. change signer to BHC & import wallet (hopefully now seeing the same sum of BHC)
5. create offline transaction sending all BHC to exchange wallet (not sure how but I am sure I could find out)
6. work out how to make that transaction a live reality (again, grey area but easily researched)
7. spend BHC on a new yacht and solve poverty

While I am only 75% confident the above would have worked there was enough doubt to stop me trying, hopefully someone can clarify the Plan B steps and advise if wrong for anyone else approaching the thread for advice.

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Quote from: PsyMan2000 on January 09, 2018, 11:33:39 AM

Thanks PhoenixFire, Ente and of course Goatpig.

Its starting to become clearer but still not to the point I am comfortable to just go ahead and do it, it's not the biggest wallet in the world but still much more than I care to lose from being too hasty.

Address type: P2PKH , does this mean I can stick to my plan and simply split using Electron Cash (or equivalent) with a direct key import or will I need to go back to the data moving, double armory plan?

PsyMan

Good attitude to have, tbh.
And yes, you can stick to the Electron Cash plan. P2PKH is compatible with everything.

PsyMan2000

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Thanks PhoenixFire, Ente and of course Goatpig.

Its starting to become clearer but still not to the point I am comfortable to just go ahead and do it, it's not the biggest wallet in the world but still much more than I care to lose from being too hasty.

Address type: P2PKH , does this mean I can stick to my plan and simply split using Electron Cash (or equivalent) with a direct key import or will I need to go back to the data moving, double armory plan?

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Quote from: PhoenixFire on January 08, 2018, 07:50:37 PM

Quote from: PsyMan2000 on January 08, 2018, 07:33:47 PM

I have read through the entire thread a few times now as well as the Aug 6th guide and I am still a bit confused.

For want of a simple solution that doesn't involve copying lots of data and running multiple offline clients but still keeps the original bitcoins safe in armory etc can I simply:

1. Create a new wallet in armory and send all of my bitcoins to it (wait for a few confirmations)
2. Use keys from the now empty old wallet in something like Electrum Cash to get and move BHC
3. Never use/burn the original wallet again in case it is compromised on the BHC side

Now, of course I am not asking if my BHC will be safe with something like electrum cash but would this solution keep my real bitcoins safe in my new armory wallet AND allow me to gamble/sell/move/split/risk the BHC without having to get too technical?

Cheers in advance and let me know if there are any obvious pitfalls

PsyMan

Looks sane.
One thing to note, you will need to split BCH in Armory if your coins are in P2SH-P2PK addresses.

Hold onto the old wallet's private keys for other splits. BTG, for example.

I agree, your approach (PsyMan2000) looks sane.
Good catch, PhoenixFire.

Ente

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Quote from: PsyMan2000 on January 08, 2018, 07:33:47 PM

I have read through the entire thread a few times now as well as the Aug 6th guide and I am still a bit confused.

For want of a simple solution that doesn't involve copying lots of data and running multiple offline clients but still keeps the original bitcoins safe in armory etc can I simply:

1. Create a new wallet in armory and send all of my bitcoins to it (wait for a few confirmations)
2. Use keys from the now empty old wallet in something like Electrum Cash to get and move BHC
3. Never use/burn the original wallet again in case it is compromised on the BHC side

Now, of course I am not asking if my BHC will be safe with something like electrum cash but would this solution keep my real bitcoins safe in my new armory wallet AND allow me to gamble/sell/move/split/risk the BHC without having to get too technical?

Cheers in advance and let me know if there are any obvious pitfalls

PsyMan

Looks sane.
One thing to note, you will need to split BCH in Armory if your coins are in P2SH-P2PK addresses.

Hold onto the old wallet's private keys for other splits. BTG, for example.

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