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April 26, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
My first attempt was a failure and kind of spooks me. I downloaded this wallet. https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta  Is it safe source?

No clue. I wouldn't touch it myself. If I absolutely insisted on collecting my coins, I'd either wait for the Armory patch (I don't think it's coming at this point, honestly, but who knows) or use this tool from Jimmy Song, a former Armory developer. It's poorly documented but you should find some directions if you poke around on Jimmy's Twitter account. Anyway, IIRC, the tool helps you create valid transactions from keys you feed it, which can then be blasted out to the appropriate network. It may be more painful but, having worked with Jimmy and seen what he has done post-Armory, I'd trust him any day of the week over random devs airdropping coins with their wallets.
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legendary
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April 26, 2018, 02:07:20 AM
My first attempt was a failure and kind of spooks me. I downloaded this wallet. https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta  Is it safe source?
That's the official github... no idea if it is "safe" or not...


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When setting up the wallet it asked what type of wallet do you want? I chose import keys. Then I pasted the large amount of keys that I exported from Armory. This action set off my virus software that said my laptop camera was attempting to connect? Shocked So I let it block it.
Electrum has a QR-Code module in it that uses your webcam... quite possibly the wallet was just trying to initialise webcam functionality. Was this on Windows, MacOSX or Linux?


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And when exporting the keys from Armory. I chose to "save to file" It acted like it saved it but didn't give me an option of where it was saved. So maybe it's somewhere on my computer and my keys may be compromised.
No idea... I've seen other users have similar issues where the "save to file" thing does nothing... I always get a "Save File..." dialog open up... maybe it's a permissions thing. Perhaps check the Armory log file for an error?



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I don't think It would copy to clipboard either. So I just highlighted and copied the addresses (except for the header at the top). Basically all the keys to that wallet. Tons of keys. I guessed I could just import all the keys and extract the BTG.  Huh
Yeah, you should be able to just copy/paste the keys from the export window to the ElectrumG import window... note that if you have literally hundreds of keys which you import all at once, this could make ElectrumG choke...

If you can identify which addresses actually had BTC at the fork... you could just import the keys that match those addresses... importing all of keys just saves a bit of hassle if you have BTC spread over a whole bunch of addresses.

It all depends on your situation...
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April 24, 2018, 10:37:07 PM
So I've extracted BCH from Armory. Now I guess BTG would be next? Does it mater what order? Their are other coin forks like Bitcoin Private, Bitcoin Diamond?
I don't think it really matters what order... personally, I'd do them in descending order of value... so most valuable first. That way, you lose the least amount if your keys are compromised during the process.

Remember, you should move each ForkCoin from the original keys to new seed/keys before claiming the next fork... as for whether or not you want to claim all the ShitCoins... that's up to you.


My first attempt was a failure and kind of spooks me. I downloaded this wallet. https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta  Is it safe source? When setting up the wallet it asked what type of wallet do you want? I chose import keys. Then I pasted the large amount of keys that I exported from Armory. This action set off my virus software that said my laptop camera was attempting to connect? Shocked So I let it block it.

And when exporting the keys from Armory. I chose to "save to file" It acted like it saved it but didn't give me an option of where it was saved. So maybe it's somewhere on my computer and my keys may be compromised. I don't think It would copy to clipboard either. So I just highlighted and 
 copied the addresses (except for the header at the top). Basically all the keys to that wallet. Tons of keys. I guessed I could just import all the keys and extract the BTG.  Huh
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legendary
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April 24, 2018, 08:39:26 PM
So I've extracted BCH from Armory. Now I guess BTG would be next? Does it mater what order? Their are other coin forks like Bitcoin Private, Bitcoin Diamond?
I don't think it really matters what order... personally, I'd do them in descending order of value... so most valuable first. That way, you lose the least amount if your keys are compromised during the process.

Remember, you should move each ForkCoin from the original keys to new seed/keys before claiming the next fork... as for whether or not you want to claim all the ShitCoins... that's up to you.
sr. member
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April 24, 2018, 07:27:43 PM
So I've extracted BCH from Armory. Now I guess BTG would be next? Does it mater what order? Their are other coin forks like Bitcoin Private, Bitcoin Diamond?

And if you get a scam wallet you could lose your coins. Tongue They had a scam wallet on the official BTG site which stole over 3 million dollars in BTC. I guess moving your coins to a safe wallet before claiming new coins goes a long way to protect the coins you already have but not the ones that haven't been claimed from the keys.    
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legendary
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April 23, 2018, 11:07:52 PM
One question. Do I need Bitcoin core connected to Armory in order to export keys to BTG electrum and get BTG? Or can I just use Armory with BCH ABC wallet?
You don't need anything other than Armory to export keys. It doesn't matter if you have Bitcoin Core, Bitcoin ABC or Bitcoin Gold installed or not... you will still be able to export keys from Armory. The only caveat, is that if your Armory wallet is not "synced" it won't be able to tell which keys are "used"... so the default settings in the export will likely not show you all the keys you actually need.

The trick is to make sure that "Include Unused (Address Pool)" option is selected during export... this will show you ALL the pre-generated keys in Armory's keypool, regardless of whether or not Armory thinks they have been used and might have transaction history and/or coins.

Note that if you have had hundreds of transactions and used hundreds of addresses, this still might miss "used" keys out past the default keypool size... so if this situation applies to you, it is probably best to make sure your Armory wallet is properly synced (ie. connected to whatever blockchain you're attempting to use)


where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork? 
Same place you should always have your coins when there is a fork... in a secure wallet that provides access to private keys. It honestly doesn't matter how many times a coin is forked. If you have access to the private key(s), you'll have access to your coins.


What's considered "getting everything done"?
Most likely making sure that you have moved any BCH that you're trying to get from your Armory keys into a BCH wallet (be it Bitcoin ABC or Electron Cash) that is going to be working post-Fork. Given that the Bitcoin ABC "magic" has changed... it is likely going to be difficult to get Armory talking to Bitcoin ABC... as evidenced by the issues that alomar has had.

As noted several times already, goatpig's focus for Armory is BTC... expecting there to be support for BCH in the future is likely to cause you issues down the line. So, moving your BCH now is likely to save you a lot of time and effort later.
sr. member
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April 23, 2018, 09:34:51 PM
One question. Do I need Bitcoin core connected to Armory in order to export keys to BTG electrum and get BTG? Or can I just use Armory with BCH ABC wallet?

My guess. I'll have to download the BTC blockchain yet again............ Roll Eyes
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April 23, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I would certainly prefer goatpig work on Bitcoin features and keeping the wallet up to date with the Bitcoin ecosystem, along with bug fixes and general improvements, as opposed to wasting time adding support for every forked shitcoin that someone dreams up. Armory is a Bitcoin wallet, after all.

Besides, one is able to access their forked shitcoins with other methods if so desired.

BCH shitcoin is worth $1,239.39 each. Not much to you maybe. But I can sell them without touching the Bitcoin if I choose. I'll continue to take those shit coins.

I could export the keys somehow and get the coins that way. It might be interesting to learn how to do it.     

I don't care (beyond the fact that it gives Joe Q. Public the impression that the entire cryptocurrency space is a joke) if people continue to make forked shitcoins until the sun supernovas and consumes the earth. What I care about, in the context of the location of this thread in the Armory subforum, is the limited resource known as "goatpig's time" and how he spends that time while coding features and improvements for Armory - A Bitcoin wallet. Wink

If you want to petition goatpig on the importance of implementing every forked shitcoin from here until Ragnarök, however, don't let me dissuade you!

I agree that the amount of coins made is ridiculous. It's ok to fork Bitcoin once in a while if necessary. But not 5 times a year. Making too many coins using Bitcoins name to give them some form of legitimacy.   
sr. member
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April 23, 2018, 08:24:41 PM
where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork?  

i don't understand the question.

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there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

What's considered "getting everything done"?
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April 23, 2018, 07:57:50 PM
this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.
Define "easy" then? Huh

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it Tongue


would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.
Code:
walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1
Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22126330)



i'm now able to get an active connection when i downgrade ABC to 0.16.1.  it will even connect from the VM when the host has an active BTC client connected!  so much for port conflicts.  turns out it probably is the network magic goatpig was talking about and how Armory won't connect to any ABC client newer than 0.16.1.  makes me worry about what will happen after the May 15 ABC hard fork when and if 0.16.1 won't be compatible...

They had trouble with versions later than 0.16.1. That's the version I have in my directions. Now you should just have to  "Rebuild and Rescan Data Bases". Then you should see the coins in Armory.
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April 23, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork?  

i don't understand the question.
sr. member
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April 23, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
As one other and Jojo69 suggested I used bitcoin-abc-0.16.1-win64. And it worked just fine.

Maybe not with your operating system. 

there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

So their forking BCH also. Interesting.

I moved my BTC and BCH coins off of Armory. Their is only one developer left and we still don't have a BTG signer available. These coins are worth a significant amount of money. Sort of like a stock split or dividend.

Hardware wallets have software to separate the significant coins. You can have many different types coins on them without downloading the blockchain.





you shouldn't necessarily concerned.  ABC has made it clear from the beginning that they are planning hard forks q6mo as routine upgrades.  i don't necessarily agree with that but i believe their intentions to be good.  we'll see.  i agree that we should be able to harvest altcoins but i'm sure you'll get some sort of response like code it yourself.    i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I think they are trying to out do Bitcoin. Become the Bitcoin. where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork?  
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April 23, 2018, 07:44:07 PM
this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.
Define "easy" then? Huh

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it Tongue


would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.
Code:
walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1
Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22126330)



i'm now able to get an active connection when i downgrade ABC to 0.16.1.  it will even connect from the VM when the host has an active BTC client connected!  so much for port conflicts.  turns out it probably is the network magic goatpig was talking about and how Armory won't connect to any ABC client newer than 0.16.1.  makes me worry about what will happen after the May 15 ABC hard fork when and if 0.16.1 won't be compatible...
sr. member
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April 23, 2018, 07:22:31 PM
I could download and install the BTG wallet and then simply import the keys from Armory? Tongue
Of course... you have access to your private keys within Armory and the forks have wallets that allow you to import keys.

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
- Huh
- Profit

BCH and BTG both have "Electrum Forks" (Electron Cash and ElectrumG respectively) which make importing your keys and moving your fork coins ridiculously quick and easy... you don't need to download any blockchains and assuming you take the proper precautions (ie. moving coins from keys before importing into another wallet, in descending order of value) you don't really need to worry about the security of your coins.

Or you can continue attempting to connect Armory to "forked" blockchains which it has likely not been tested against and/or hope that goatpig finds time to create "signers" for various forks... Roll Eyes


 I don't have that many transactions. I guess I'll use the configuration in your post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-possible-to-import-armory-wallet-into-any-other-wallet-3274219

For each transaction I'll just copy the data to a thumb drive and label them transactions 1, 2, 3 etc. Then take them to the new BTG electrum wallet and import them. The offline wallet will be more difficult but it should be ok.    
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April 23, 2018, 04:15:15 PM
this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.
Define "easy" then? Huh

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it Tongue


would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.
Code:
walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1
Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22126330)

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April 23, 2018, 03:42:39 PM

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
- Huh
- Profit


this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.
A little scripting goes a long way, then.
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April 23, 2018, 03:33:07 PM

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
- Huh
- Profit


this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.
HCP
legendary
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April 23, 2018, 12:15:46 AM
I could download and install the BTG wallet and then simply import the keys from Armory? Tongue
Of course... you have access to your private keys within Armory and the forks have wallets that allow you to import keys.

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
- Huh
- Profit

BCH and BTG both have "Electrum Forks" (Electron Cash and ElectrumG respectively) which make importing your keys and moving your fork coins ridiculously quick and easy... you don't need to download any blockchains and assuming you take the proper precautions (ie. moving coins from keys before importing into another wallet, in descending order of value) you don't really need to worry about the security of your coins.

Or you can continue attempting to connect Armory to "forked" blockchains which it has likely not been tested against and/or hope that goatpig finds time to create "signers" for various forks... Roll Eyes
sr. member
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April 22, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
I guess it's a lot of work to make a signer?

I could download and install the BTG wallet and then simply import the keys from Armory? Tongue
legendary
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April 22, 2018, 02:43:38 PM
i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I would certainly prefer goatpig work on Bitcoin features and keeping the wallet up to date with the Bitcoin ecosystem, along with bug fixes and general improvements, as opposed to wasting time adding support for every forked shitcoin that someone dreams up. Armory is a Bitcoin wallet, after all.

Besides, one is able to access their forked shitcoins with other methods if so desired.

BCH shitcoin is worth $1,239.39 each. Not much to you maybe. But I can sell them without touching the Bitcoin if I choose. I'll continue to take those shit coins.

I could export the keys somehow and get the coins that way. It might be interesting to learn how to do it.     

I don't care (beyond the fact that it gives Joe Q. Public the impression that the entire cryptocurrency space is a joke) if people continue to make forked shitcoins until the sun supernovas and consumes the earth. What I care about, in the context of the location of this thread in the Armory subforum, is the limited resource known as "goatpig's time" and how he spends that time while coding features and improvements for Armory - A Bitcoin wallet. Wink

If you want to petition goatpig on the importance of implementing every forked shitcoin from here until Ragnarök, however, don't let me dissuade you!
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