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May 07, 2018, 11:24:27 AM
Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working
If your goal is to get BCH and BTG, then yes, that method should work.

Just remember that the original Amory wallet should be considered compromised and no longer used. I'd suggest you keep the wallet backups though, just in case.

Anyway, when you send out the BTC in Step 1, you should either send to an Address in a completely different (new) Armory wallet, or an address in a completely wallet application.
why do you need to go thru BTC Electrum first?  why not just import Armory private keys directly into Electron Cash and/or ElectrumG?
Peg
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May 07, 2018, 11:09:27 AM
Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working
If your goal is to get BCH and BTG, then yes, that method should work.   

Just remember that the original Amory wallet should be considered compromised and no longer used. I'd suggest you keep the wallet backups though, just in case.

Anyway, when you send out the BTC in Step 1, you should either send to an Address in a completely different (new) Armory wallet, or an address in a completely wallet application.

Thank you very much for your reply  "HCP"

I got the Hardware Wallet, I will move btc , bch, btg.....to it. I will also keep all private keys and the wallet backups.

HCP
legendary
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May 07, 2018, 09:18:30 AM
Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working
If your goal is to get BCH and BTG, then yes, that method should work.

Just remember that the original Amory wallet should be considered compromised and no longer used. I'd suggest you keep the wallet backups though, just in case.

Anyway, when you send out the BTC in Step 1, you should either send to an Address in a completely different (new) Armory wallet, or an address in a completely wallet application.
Peg
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May 07, 2018, 05:55:50 AM
Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working.

Thank you & Regards

Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.
If by "they" you mean the "Electrum" devs... then NO, "they" don't have a BTG tool...

NONE of these Electrum "forks" are the work of, nor are they supported by, the Electrum Dev(s). They're mostly released by the devs (or supporters) of the fork coins. Also, they're prime targets for fake/scam clone wallets designed to steal seeds/keys/coins... Electron Cash had a lot of issues with scam clones to start. Be careful and make sure you're downloading "official" versions of wallets.


And it looks like I could have saved a lot of time if I would have used  the Electron Cash wallet to extract the BCH.  :PWith this wallet you wouldn't have to download the blockchain. Once you have the Armory private keys exported and arranged  in a note pad file, you would have the coins in minutes.  If the wallet hasn't been tampered with. https://electroncash.org/#download
Fairly sure that is what I recommended here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35363497 Wink

In general, if you have NO interest in continuing to use any given Fork... using a light weight client (ie. some Electrum derivative, or Coinomi etc) is a much easier solution than attempting to get Armory to interface with the forked blockchain.

Granted, you need to make sure that your BTC has been moved first, but that's a relatively straightforward task (create, sign, broadcast transaction)... and generally much easier than attempting to sync a whole new blockchain.

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.
Define "easy" then? Huh

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it Tongue


would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.
Code:
walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1
Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22126330)


HCP
legendary
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May 01, 2018, 12:04:53 AM
Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.
If by "they" you mean the "Electrum" devs... then NO, "they" don't have a BTG tool...

NONE of these Electrum "forks" are the work of, nor are they supported by, the Electrum Dev(s). They're mostly released by the devs (or supporters) of the fork coins. Also, they're prime targets for fake/scam clone wallets designed to steal seeds/keys/coins... Electron Cash had a lot of issues with scam clones to start. Be careful and make sure you're downloading "official" versions of wallets.


And it looks like I could have saved a lot of time if I would have used  the Electron Cash wallet to extract the BCH.  :PWith this wallet you wouldn't have to download the blockchain. Once you have the Armory private keys exported and arranged  in a note pad file, you would have the coins in minutes.  If the wallet hasn't been tampered with. https://electroncash.org/#download
Fairly sure that is what I recommended here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35363497 Wink

In general, if you have NO interest in continuing to use any given Fork... using a light weight client (ie. some Electrum derivative, or Coinomi etc) is a much easier solution than attempting to get Armory to interface with the forked blockchain.

Granted, you need to make sure that your BTC has been moved first, but that's a relatively straightforward task (create, sign, broadcast transaction)... and generally much easier than attempting to sync a whole new blockchain.
sr. member
Activity: 389
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April 29, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
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Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.

And it looks like I could have saved a lot of time if I would have used  the Electron Cash wallet to extract the BCH.  :PWith this wallet you wouldn't have to download the blockchain. Once you have the Armory private keys exported and arranged  in a note pad file, you would have the coins in minutes.  If the wallet hasn't been tampered with. https://electroncash.org/#download
member
Activity: 178
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April 29, 2018, 01:46:25 PM
Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  Grin

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.    

Wait. I'm lost with what you're trying to do by dumping your private keys into electrum?  Didn't you already move your BTC to a new seed?  And aren't you trying to claim BTG?

By importing the Armory private keys into electrumg I extracted the BTG. Yes, I first moved my BTG and BCH to a hardware wallet with a new seed, (just in case the wallet is a trap). And now I have moved the BTG into the same hardware wallet. The hardware wallet Supports BTC, BCH, and BTG.

And I also downloaded the Bitcoin Private Electrum 1.1.1 https://github.com/BTCPrivate/electrum-btcp/releases/ and extracted those coins also. Unfortunately my hardware wallet doesn't support BTCP at this time so I have just left the coins in my new BTCP Electrum wallet.

I have my pre fork Armory private keys organized into separate note pad files stored on a thumb drive. So I can quickly import the keys into other Bitcoin fork wallets, if I want. That way I don't have to go through the procedure in Armory and reorganize the keys for each new coin.

To get the free fork coins you have to download a wallet set up for  that particular coin that allows you to import the private keys.  

I used HPC's configuration for exporting coins, he partially shows in the post above. To get to that screen you have to go to "properties" for the highlighted wallet and then go to "back up wallet".   

Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.
sr. member
Activity: 389
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April 29, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  Grin

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.    

Wait. I'm lost with what you're trying to do by dumping your private keys into electrum?  Didn't you already move your BTC to a new seed?  And aren't you trying to claim BTG?

By importing the Armory private keys into electrumg I extracted the BTG. Yes, I first moved my BTC and BCH to a hardware wallet with a new seed, (just in case the wallet is a trap). And now I have moved the BTG into the same hardware wallet. The hardware wallet Supports BTC, BCH, and BTG.

And I also downloaded the Bitcoin Private Electrum 1.1.1 https://github.com/BTCPrivate/electrum-btcp/releases/ and extracted those coins also. Unfortunately my hardware wallet doesn't support BTCP at this time so I have just left the coins in my new BTCP Electrum wallet.

I have my pre fork Armory private keys organized into separate note pad files stored on a thumb drive. So I can quickly import the keys into other Bitcoin fork wallets, if I want. That way I don't have to go through the procedure in Armory and reorganize the keys for each new coin.

To get the free fork coins you have to download a wallet set up for  that particular coin that allows you to import the private keys.  

I used HPC's configuration for exporting coins, he partially shows in the post above. To get to that screen you have to go to "properties" for the highlighted wallet and then go to "back up wallet".    
member
Activity: 178
Merit: 10
April 29, 2018, 05:24:17 AM
Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  Grin

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.     

Wait. I'm lost with what you're trying to do by dumping your private keys into electrum?  Didn't you already move your BTC to a new seed?  And aren't you trying to claim BTG?
HCP
legendary
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April 28, 2018, 11:14:20 PM
Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  Grin
Great success! Grin

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Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.     
I've found the best settings for exporting from Armory are:


NOTE: you only really need the "Included unused (Address pool)" option if your Armory is not properly synced (ie. restored wallet on machine without fully synced Bitcoin node etc)... or if you think you may still receive a payment to an address that has not received any coins in Armory already.

The output generated using those options will enable you to match private keys to addresses... so if you know which addresses hold coins etc, you can simply import the matching private key(s) for those addresses.
sr. member
Activity: 389
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April 28, 2018, 10:17:47 AM
Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  Grin

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.     
member
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April 28, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But it only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?  Huh   
Did you ensure that the keys you copy/pasted into ElectrumG do not have any spaces... and are just the "Private Key (Plain Base58)" keys?  No spaces (Omit spaces in key data)... One per line... like this:


There should be no other text, or prefixes or " marks or anything like that

Tha's probably it. All I did was copy and paste exactly how it is out of Armory. You put just the private key? Or both both private key and address? Which is which? 

just the privkeys, as he listed
sr. member
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April 28, 2018, 09:51:27 AM
Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But it only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?  Huh    
Did you ensure that the keys you copy/pasted into ElectrumG do not have any spaces... and are just the "Private Key (Plain Base58)" keys?  No spaces (Omit spaces in key data)... One per line... like this:


There should be no other text, or prefixes or " marks or anything like that

Tha's probably it. All I did was copy and paste exactly how it is out of Armory. You put just the private key? Or both both private key and address? Which is which?

And after it's imported do I have to do something else or will I see the balance? 
member
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April 28, 2018, 09:33:16 AM
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Coinomi is safe but you have to import one key at a time. The nice thing is it has Shapeshift and Changelly built right into the app for coin exchange.

Alomar. Did you get your BCH yet? I don't use a computer cell phone though. 

since you've already moved your BTC and BCH to a new seed, it's perfectly safe to now sweep the original private keys into a Coinomi phone wallet app to claim your BTG.  it's a great app but yeah, you have to trust their servers aren't grabbing your private key.  but that shouldn't matter in your case.  from within the app you also have direct exchange capacity with either Shapeshift or Changelly; which also has worked great.  i'm skeptical of all the fraud allegations against Changelly.  there are certainly TPTB actors out there trying to disrupt the business operations of legit exchanges.
HCP
legendary
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April 28, 2018, 04:08:50 AM
Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But it only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?  Huh   
Did you ensure that the keys you copy/pasted into ElectrumG do not have any spaces... and are just the "Private Key (Plain Base58)" keys?  No spaces (Omit spaces in key data)... One per line... like this:


There should be no other text, or prefixes or " marks or anything like that
sr. member
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April 27, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
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Coinomi is safe but you have to import one key at a time. The nice thing is it has Shapeshift and Changelly built right into the app for coin exchange.

Alomar. Did you get your BCH yet? I don't use a computer cell phone though. 
sr. member
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April 27, 2018, 07:12:28 PM
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You can't import keys into a "normal" wallet when using Electrum (and Electrum forks)... it simply doesn't allow you to (to prevent the situation where you have keys in your seeded wallet that are not backed up by the seed). You could "sweep" the coins from the keys though.

Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But now only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?  Huh    

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This is the whole purpose of moving your Bitcoins to a completely new seed first... if your bitcoins are on completely different keys generated by a different seed, it doesn't matter if your old seed/keys get compromised, your BTC is safe... at worst, you lose some shitcoins.

My Bitcoin and BCH are long gone and moved into a wallet with a new seed. I'm sure the thieves would jump in any gutter to get BTG worth $76 each though. Plus Bitcoin Private Bitcoin Diamond etc etc etc.  
HCP
legendary
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April 27, 2018, 03:45:07 AM
BTG had a wallet on their site that stole something like 3 million worth of Bitcoin. But that wallet has been removed. They might be responsible for it. If you understand code you should be able to tell if it's safe before adding it to your site. 
From memory... the wallet wasn't hosted on their website... they had a LINK to the scam website (ie. mybtgwallet)... also:
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Based on the investigation timeline so far, the malicious code was injected after the wallet’s listing on the BTG website, sometime on the 12th of November. Once the Bitcoin Gold team became aware of the theft, the wallet’s listing was removed from the website.
In any case... why would anyone put their wallet seed into some random website for some random bitcoin fork??!? Huh People got greedy and in the race to claim "Free Money" they didn't take proper precautions and it cost them.


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I guess I'll reinstall the wallet but install a "normal wallet" instead of an import key wallet. Then after it's installed, try importing the keys. I copied all the keys in the Armory wallet except for the top header.
You can't import keys into a "normal" wallet when using Electrum (and Electrum forks)... it simply doesn't allow you to (to prevent the situation where you have keys in your seeded wallet that are not backed up by the seed). You could "sweep" the coins from the keys though.


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Would it be better to set up a normal wallet with encryption and then import the keys into it?   
I don't see how encrypting the wallet is going to help at all... unless you think that it might prevent your wallet from getting stolen? Huh

This is the whole purpose of moving your Bitcoins to a completely new seed first... if your bitcoins are on completely different keys generated by a different seed, it doesn't matter if your old seed/keys get compromised, your BTC is safe... at worst, you lose some shitcoins.
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April 26, 2018, 07:53:04 PM
Thanks for the reply everyone.

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Electrum has a QR-Code module in it that uses your webcam... quite possibly the wallet was just trying to initialise webcam functionality. Was this on Windows, MacOSX or Linux?

I'm using Windows.

BTG had a wallet on their site that stole something like 3 million worth of Bitcoin. But that wallet has been removed. They might be responsible for it. If you understand code you should be able to tell if it's safe before adding it to your site.  

I guess I'll reinstall the wallet but install a "normal wallet" instead of an import key wallet. Then after it's installed, try importing the keys. I copied all the keys in the Armory wallet except for the top header.

It would better to set up a normal wallet with encryption and then import the keys into it?   

I guess you can just copy and paste the keys and it will know how much BTG you have?  

Coinomi is safe but you have to import one key at a time. The nice thing is it has Shapeshift and Changelly built right into the app for coin exchange.
sr. member
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April 26, 2018, 07:29:58 PM
Thanks for the reply everyone.

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Electrum has a QR-Code module in it that uses your webcam... quite possibly the wallet was just trying to initialise webcam functionality. Was this on Windows, MacOSX or Linux?

I'm using Windows.

BTG had a wallet on their site that stole something like 3 million worth of Bitcoin. But that wallet has been removed. They might be responsible for it. If you understand code you should be able to tell if it's safe before adding it to your site.  

I guess I'll reinstall the wallet but install a "normal wallet" instead of an import key wallet. Then after it's installed, try importing the keys. I copied all the keys in the Armory wallet except for the top header.

Would it be better to set up a normal wallet with encryption and then import the keys into it?  

I guess you can just copy and paste the keys and it will know how much BTG you have?  
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