Do we really have to believe that is a scientific reliable and independent research? Looking at the following paragraphs of the paper
1. Potential limitations: They can't approve any causal association between health and vaccinated children
2. Conclusions: Authors admit that this study can't prove any causal interpretation
3. Funding sources: One of the supporters was the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute
Therefore, (1) and (2) and the fact that is a pilot study means that statistical results are limited to this study only and we can't say anything about the entire population. More over (3) shows that is difficult somebody to believe that this study wasn't influenced by the intention of those who funded it.
For every interested member, let's read and another option of this kind of studies, Science-Based Medicine site.
Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 56. (Read 45532 times)
It's probably the cigarettes. Probably smoking is killing off disease, and that is why the FDA is trying hard to ban it.
You know...
At this point, after all of my research, I actually consider it as likely as not that anything which, according to 'the authorities', I'm not supposed to do is actually healthy. At least in ways that are important to me. Salt is a good example. Lots of dairy products and meat another. As for nicotine, I'll bet that it increases intellectual ability, and especially in old age (thus offsetting all of the hard work of getting fluoride in the water.) I heavily abuse all of these substances and am one of the most healthy people I know of.
I love this argument.
"I'm eating salt meat and fat but I'm incredibly healthy, explain that!"
Well you're lucky and that's great for you.
Accidents happen.
Very interesting data. I love data. Much more preferable than some bs the news puts out. Seeing the data and the study methods released is a great thing to do so people can understand what happened and if thry can replicate the study using same methods.
It is really heartening to see someone who understands the fundamentals of 'legacy' science.
Actually, the real power of science would be to replicate the results using different and un-related methods as well. Reproducible using the same methods is key, but only for verification of a method. Arriving at a like result by use of a different method us key to progressing an idea from the hypothesis <--> theory --> fact chain.
Through it all, if one sees data and methods being hidden by any means, it is the stench of a rat. The 'global warming' junk science is rife with such fraud. In vaccine-land it is the same observation but the methods lean more heavily on formally legalistic frameworks more than via academic fraud.
Very interesting data. I love data. Much more preferable than some bs the news puts out. Seeing the data and the study methods released is a great thing to do so people can understand what happened and if thry can replicate the study using same methods.
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My grandfather died at the age of 60 from lung defficience and all doctors agree on the fact that his smoking habit was greatly responsible for it. You telling me that all the doctors are wrong because YOU are healthy?
That's just too stupid, I can't bear with you people. Go die in your own corner.
My grandfather died at the age of 60 from lung defficience and all doctors agree on the fact that his smoking habit was greatly responsible for it. You telling me that all the doctors are wrong because YOU are healthy?
That's just too stupid, I can't bear with you people. Go die in your own corner.
Jesus man, I just got done saying that smoking is obviously bad for a person's health in the text you snipped. The actual nicotine may or may not be a positive depending on what is important to a person.
Big Brother and Big Pharma love you bro. I would be fine with you doing everything they tell you to, but when you are sick all the time they are going to come to me with a gun and try to make me pay your bill.
Look at the number of epidemics in Africa where medicine is poorly developed and many people are not vaccinated and in the West where almost everyone is vaccinated. Isn't that a proof h that vaccines work.
There can be no doubt regarding this. Millions of people die every year from diseases such as malaria, typhoid and cholera, for which the vaccinations are available. If vaccination was universal, then these people could have been saved.
I agree. people can say that vaccines tamper the body's natural way of healing and working but good that you pointed out the comparison between vaccinated countries and nonvaccinated ones. there shouldn't be much argument about the importance of vaccines anymore
It's probably the cigarettes. Probably smoking is killing off disease, and that is why the FDA is trying hard to ban it.
You know...
At this point, after all of my research, I actually consider it as likely as not that anything which, according to 'the authorities', I'm not supposed to do is actually healthy. At least in ways that are important to me. Salt is a good example. Lots of dairy products and meat another. As for nicotine, I'll bet that it increases intellectual ability, and especially in old age (thus offsetting all of the hard work of getting fluoride in the water.) I heavily abuse all of these substances and am one of the most healthy people I know of.
I love this argument.
"I'm eating salt meat and fat but I'm incredibly healthy, explain that!"
Well you're lucky and that's great for you.
My grandfather died at the age of 60 from lung defficience and all doctors agree on the fact that his smoking habit was greatly responsible for it. You telling me that all the doctors are wrong because YOU are healthy?
That's just too stupid, I can't bear with you people. Go die in your own corner.
Look at the number of epidemics in Africa where medicine is poorly developed and many people are not vaccinated and in the West where almost everyone is vaccinated. Isn't that a proof h that vaccines work.
There can be no doubt regarding this. Millions of people die every year from diseases such as malaria, typhoid and cholera, for which the vaccinations are available. If vaccination was universal, then these people could have been saved.
It's probably the cigarettes. Probably smoking is killing off disease, and that is why the FDA is trying hard to ban it.
You know...
At this point, after all of my research, I actually consider it as likely as not that anything which, according to 'the authorities', I'm not supposed to do is actually healthy. At least in ways that are important to me. Salt is a good example. Lots of dairy products and meat another. As for nicotine, I'll bet that it increases intellectual ability, and especially in old age (thus offsetting all of the hard work of getting fluoride in the water.) I heavily abuse all of these substances and am one of the most healthy people I know of.
My research into vaccination program here in the U.S. is probably more responsible than anything else for making suspicious of the motivations of the so-called 'powers that be' and their minions.
I chew tobacco but I don't smoke. I did so between ages 20 and 30. I can say for sure that smoking is not good for me, and probably not for anyone else either. Seasonal bugs always have started in my tonsils. Back when I smoked about half the time the bug would go to my chest. Since I quit smoking it never does. Usually a bug which is going around dies in my throat if I get it at all, and within a few days. Occasionally it will make me get flu-ee feeling for a day. I don't tend to get nasal congestion any more either, but that is a normal part of the aging process (and why the 1918 pandemic flu took out so many younger people who are more prone to have a cytokine storm.)
I find the arguments to not vaccinate simply stupid and not based on any scientific evidence. Diseases which had disappeared started to reappear because of people not vaccinating their children, risking the lives of others at the same time.
This thread is about the evidence. Essentially, there isn't enough evidence to show that vaccination works where other things fail. The thing that is being proven is that even if vaccination works, there are other, worse things caused by the vaccination than the benefits received from the vaccination.
Lets finally do the studies. But the medical doesn't want to. Why?
Look at the number of epidemics in Africa where medicine is poorly developed and many people are not vaccinated and in the West where almost everyone is vaccinated. Isn't that a proof h that vaccines work.
Less malnutrition and constantly improving sanitation mostly, and that is directly associated with wealth. Looking at the charts, it's pretty clear that vaccines had little or nothing to do with the decline of various infectious diseases. These snake-oil salesmen saw a trend and tried to take credit for it. Successfully due in no small part because the same basic people also own the media and 'control the narrative.' They also basically own the curriculum from k --> {n} and teach people NOT to think for themselves.
From: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
Note that Scarlet Fever never did have a vaccine and it's trajectory is pretty much the same.
It's probably the cigarettes. Probably smoking is killing off disease, and that is why the FDA is trying hard to ban it.
I find the arguments to not vaccinate simply stupid and not based on any scientific evidence. Diseases which had disappeared started to reappear because of people not vaccinating their children, risking the lives of others at the same time.
This thread is about the evidence. Essentially, there isn't enough evidence to show that vaccination works where other things fail. The thing that is being proven is that even if vaccination works, there are other, worse things caused by the vaccination than the benefits received from the vaccination.
Lets finally do the studies. But the medical doesn't want to. Why?
Look at the number of epidemics in Africa where medicine is poorly developed and many people are not vaccinated and in the West where almost everyone is vaccinated. Isn't that a proof h that vaccines work.
Less malnutrition and constantly improving sanitation mostly, and that is directly associated with wealth. Looking at the charts, it's pretty clear that vaccines had little or nothing to do with the decline of various infectious diseases. These snake-oil salesmen saw a trend and tried to take credit for it. Successfully due in no small part because the same basic people also own the media and 'control the narrative.' They also basically own the curriculum from k --> {n} and teach people NOT to think for themselves.
From: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
Note that Scarlet Fever never did have a vaccine and it's trajectory is pretty much the same.
I find the arguments to not vaccinate simply stupid and not based on any scientific evidence. Diseases which had disappeared started to reappear because of people not vaccinating their children, risking the lives of others at the same time.
This thread is about the evidence. Essentially, there isn't enough evidence to show that vaccination works where other things fail. The thing that is being proven is that even if vaccination works, there are other, worse things caused by the vaccination than the benefits received from the vaccination.
Lets finally do the studies. But the medical doesn't want to. Why?
I find the arguments to not vaccinate simply stupid and not based on any scientific evidence. Diseases which had disappeared started to reappear because of people not vaccinating their children, risking the lives of others at the same time.
This thread is about the evidence. Essentially, there isn't enough evidence to show that vaccination works where other things fail. The thing that is being proven is that even if vaccination works, there are other, worse things caused by the vaccination than the benefits received from the vaccination.
Lets finally do the studies. But the medical doesn't want to. Why?
It's not a scam it's very important...
If you don't get flu vaccine you're going to get sick and the disease is hardly curable without antibiotics.
And the problem is that antibiotics seem to have disastrous effects on long term...
Flu is viral. Antibiotics are of zero value unless treating some sort of a bacterial infection.
The only 'disastrous effects' antibiotics have is that people mis-use them and use them where they don't apply out of basic ignorance. Doctors will sometimes give a patient antibiotics when a patient asks because it is the easiest way to get them to leave the office. And they don't have a 'disastrous effects'. Over-use can and does lead to antibiotic resistance in bacteria which can and is a problem ecologically. For an individual they appear to be one of the more safe and well understood drugs.
Almost everyone gets over the flu. Some people who are near the end or unlucky will be pushed over the edge and will 'die from the flu'. Usually they would die from something else fairly soon anyway.
It irks me that an army of aggressively ignorant propagandized drones who don't even understand the most basic thing about antibiotics are going to be the muscle that supports forcing everyone at gunpoint to the clinic to be injected with whatever Merck wants to inject. Well, not 'everyone'. The affluent who have private doctors will be able to buy their way out, and I suspect that I will be able to as well. I specifically go uninsured and pay the Obamacare fine because I'm betting that the vaccine mandate will apply to everyone on government health care.
Vaccinations become obsolete every year, because new viruses are constantly appearing and it will be more effective to improve immunity in a healthy way, rather than letting all kinds of vaccines.
Virus mutations are rare, but deadly. A perfect example is that of the influenza virus. It mutates very frequently, which makes it extremely difficult for the scientists to develop vaccines. But the other viruses, such as Polio and smallpox have remained stable for the past hundreds of years. So vaccines work 99% of the time, but for the remaining 1%, we don't have any remedy.
Thanks for telling us about deadly virus mutations which are rare. This shows that beneficial mutations don't come about at all, and evolution couldn't have happened. Dead viruses are dangerous. Stop vaccinations.
For example, in order not to get sick with flu, it is enough to avoid hypothermia, maintain your immunity with vitamins and observe personal hygiene rules. Only every year they impose new vaccines against new influenza viruses that appeared earlier than the virus itself. It's all business.
Yes, only if you do not buy a vaccine against the flu, then the pharmaceutical business will start to go bankrupt. Therefore, they every year make a powerful advertisement for very gullible people.
Ah ok you talk about this
I thought you were talking about simple flu, just the flu you know the normal usual flu.
For the others... Well it's a bit strange to get vaccinated on a disease that stil doesn't exist ^^'
I can understand why people do it but it seemsa bit... Excessive to me.
I thought you were talking about simple flu, just the flu you know the normal usual flu.
For the others... Well it's a bit strange to get vaccinated on a disease that stil doesn't exist ^^'
I can understand why people do it but it seemsa bit... Excessive to me.
Vaccinations become obsolete every year, because new viruses are constantly appearing and it will be more effective to improve immunity in a healthy way, rather than letting all kinds of vaccines.
Virus mutations are rare, but deadly. A perfect example is that of the influenza virus. It mutates very frequently, which makes it extremely difficult for the scientists to develop vaccines. But the other viruses, such as Polio and smallpox have remained stable for the past hundreds of years. So vaccines work 99% of the time, but for the remaining 1%, we don't have any remedy.
Thanks for telling us about deadly virus mutations which are rare. This shows that beneficial mutations don't come about at all, and evolution couldn't have happened. Dead viruses are dangerous. Stop vaccinations.
For example, in order not to get sick with flu, it is enough to avoid hypothermia, maintain your immunity with vitamins and observe personal hygiene rules. Only every year they impose new vaccines against new influenza viruses that appeared earlier than the virus itself. It's all business.
It's not a scam it's very important...
If you don't get flu vaccine you're going to get sick and the disease is hardly curable without antibiotics.
And the problem is that antibiotics seem to have disastrous effects on long term...
Yes, they earn each year on a new kind of flu which maybe even never and will not exist. I do not get vaccinated against the flu and they never got sick.
Vaccinations become obsolete every year, because new viruses are constantly appearing and it will be more effective to improve immunity in a healthy way, rather than letting all kinds of vaccines.
Virus mutations are rare, but deadly. A perfect example is that of the influenza virus. It mutates very frequently, which makes it extremely difficult for the scientists to develop vaccines. But the other viruses, such as Polio and smallpox have remained stable for the past hundreds of years. So vaccines work 99% of the time, but for the remaining 1%, we don't have any remedy.
Thanks for telling us about deadly virus mutations which are rare. This shows that beneficial mutations don't come about at all, and evolution couldn't have happened. Dead viruses are dangerous. Stop vaccinations.
For example, in order not to get sick with flu, it is enough to avoid hypothermia, maintain your immunity with vitamins and observe personal hygiene rules. Only every year they impose new vaccines against new influenza viruses that appeared earlier than the virus itself. It's all business.
It's not a scam it's very important...
If you don't get flu vaccine you're going to get sick and the disease is hardly curable without antibiotics.
And the problem is that antibiotics seem to have disastrous effects on long term...
Vaccinations become obsolete every year, because new viruses are constantly appearing and it will be more effective to improve immunity in a healthy way, rather than letting all kinds of vaccines.
Virus mutations are rare, but deadly. A perfect example is that of the influenza virus. It mutates very frequently, which makes it extremely difficult for the scientists to develop vaccines. But the other viruses, such as Polio and smallpox have remained stable for the past hundreds of years. So vaccines work 99% of the time, but for the remaining 1%, we don't have any remedy.
Thanks for telling us about deadly virus mutations which are rare. This shows that beneficial mutations don't come about at all, and evolution couldn't have happened. Dead viruses are dangerous. Stop vaccinations.
For example, in order not to get sick with flu, it is enough to avoid hypothermia, maintain your immunity with vitamins and observe personal hygiene rules. Only every year they impose new vaccines against new influenza viruses that appeared earlier than the virus itself. It's all business.
It's not a scam it's very important...
If you don't get flu vaccine you're going to get sick and the disease is hardly curable without antibiotics.
And the problem is that antibiotics seem to have disastrous effects on long term...
Vaccinations become obsolete every year, because new viruses are constantly appearing and it will be more effective to improve immunity in a healthy way, rather than letting all kinds of vaccines.
Virus mutations are rare, but deadly. A perfect example is that of the influenza virus. It mutates very frequently, which makes it extremely difficult for the scientists to develop vaccines. But the other viruses, such as Polio and smallpox have remained stable for the past hundreds of years. So vaccines work 99% of the time, but for the remaining 1%, we don't have any remedy.
Thanks for telling us about deadly virus mutations which are rare. This shows that beneficial mutations don't come about at all, and evolution couldn't have happened. Dead viruses are dangerous. Stop vaccinations.
For example, in order not to get sick with flu, it is enough to avoid hypothermia, maintain your immunity with vitamins and observe personal hygiene rules. Only every year they impose new vaccines against new influenza viruses that appeared earlier than the virus itself. It's all business.
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