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Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 53. (Read 45532 times)

sr. member
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Even if vaccinations, IF!!! - go wrong sometimes, I'd rather take that chance then live in a world where people get Rabies, Polio, Tuberculosis or Leprosy
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Hej now, just because the healthcare industry is a business that literally makes money 'over your dead body', doesn't mean you ought to quit it altogether.

What you break your leg and you wish to avoid a doctor?

Same with vaccinations, many of them are much needed.

I am sure that the medical industry probably hates fixing broken legs. No recurring money in that.

They don't want cures, they want solutions that require your recurring payments. Drugs for the rest of your life, vaccines you need to renew every few years, etc.
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I am still trying to understand the argument of this anti vaccines agents because for the fact that someone is vaccinated does not he is immune from certain disease. Vaccines to me have done more good than harm as it is being portrayed otherwise by OP, countries are being declared polio free or small pox free simply by vaccines. Where I stay it pains my heart to see future leaders waste away by polio due to something that could be avoided by simple vaccine if their parent had listen to words if wisdoms while their leaders that propagate the evil of vaccinations sends their kids abroad to receive the best medical care.

Probably they want to destroy humanity Grin Vaccines have greatly improved the quality of life without diseases in comparison with those times when people did not have any medicines and they died from diseases.
hero member
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I am still trying to understand the argument of this anti vaccines agents because for the fact that someone is vaccinated does not he is immune from certain disease. Vaccines to me have done more good than harm as it is being portrayed otherwise by OP, countries are being declared polio free or small pox free simply by vaccines. Where I stay it pains my heart to see future leaders waste away by polio due to something that could be avoided by simple vaccine if their parent had listen to words if wisdoms while their leaders that propagate the evil of vaccinations sends their kids abroad to receive the best medical care.
legendary
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Hej now, just because the healthcare industry is a business that literally makes money 'over your dead body', doesn't mean you ought to quit it altogether.

What you break your leg and you wish to avoid a doctor?

Same with vaccinations, many of them are much needed.

While this is true to some extent, the questions are these. Do you want to give them control over the things that they do while setting your bones. I mean, they want to give you pain killers. How bad are the pain killers for you? Do you know which ones you can trust to not damage your system? When you are in pain, you can't think clearly to make a proper choice.

The medical literally screws you over. The are the worst kind of liars, because they have some truth in their lies. The simple example of this is the medical personnel themselves.

Suppose you break a leg. The doctor on the scene knows that all the pills he gives you are poison. He thinks that he is doing good for you. But he doesn't really know the long-range effect of those pills. Yet the medical society has him duped into thinking the things he does are good. So, they lie to the doctors and get the doctors to believe the lie.

I really need to write up some paperwork, now, ahead of time, so that if I get a stroke or heart attack, they don't keep me on life support for ages without me being able to do anything but lie there in a prison... my sick body.

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If your leg does not fracture, you do not need to take pills, just take a picture to determine the degree of breakage and correctly apply gypsum for good bone splitting. Proper nutrition will be enough to recover.

What about compound fractures and infections?    Cool
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Hej now, just because the healthcare industry is a business that literally makes money 'over your dead body', doesn't mean you ought to quit it altogether.

What you break your leg and you wish to avoid a doctor?

Same with vaccinations, many of them are much needed.

While this is true to some extent, the questions are these. Do you want to give them control over the things that they do while setting your bones. I mean, they want to give you pain killers. How bad are the pain killers for you? Do you know which ones you can trust to not damage your system? When you are in pain, you can't think clearly to make a proper choice.

The medical literally screws you over. The are the worst kind of liars, because they have some truth in their lies. The simple example of this is the medical personnel themselves.

Suppose you break a leg. The doctor on the scene knows that all the pills he gives you are poison. He thinks that he is doing good for you. But he doesn't really know the long-range effect of those pills. Yet the medical society has him duped into thinking the things he does are good. So, they lie to the doctors and get the doctors to believe the lie.

I really need to write up some paperwork, now, ahead of time, so that if I get a stroke or heart attack, they don't keep me on life support for ages without me being able to do anything but lie there in a prison... my sick body.

Cool

If your leg does not fracture, you do not need to take pills, just take a picture to determine the degree of breakage and correctly apply gypsum for good bone splitting. Proper nutrition will be enough to recover.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Hej now, just because the healthcare industry is a business that literally makes money 'over your dead body', doesn't mean you ought to quit it altogether.

What you break your leg and you wish to avoid a doctor?

Same with vaccinations, many of them are much needed.

While this is true to some extent, the questions are these. Do you want to give them control over the things that they do while setting your bones. I mean, they want to give you pain killers. How bad are the pain killers for you? Do you know which ones you can trust to not damage your system? When you are in pain, you can't think clearly to make a proper choice.

The medical literally screws you over. The are the worst kind of liars, because they have some truth in their lies. The simple example of this is the medical personnel themselves.

Suppose you break a leg. The doctor on the scene knows that all the pills he gives you are poison. He thinks that he is doing good for you. But he doesn't really know the long-range effect of those pills. Yet the medical society has him duped into thinking the things he does are good. So, they lie to the doctors and get the doctors to believe the lie.

I really need to write up some paperwork, now, ahead of time, so that if I get a stroke or heart attack, they don't keep me on life support for ages without me being able to do anything but lie there in a prison... my sick body.

Cool
full member
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Hej now, just because the healthcare industry is a business that literally makes money 'over your dead body', doesn't mean you ought to quit it altogether.

What you break your leg and you wish to avoid a doctor?

Same with vaccinations, many of them are much needed.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
B...b...but...the pharmaceutical industry would never lie to us! They're doctors. They swear not to hurt us!

Just because billions upon billions of dollars is at stake. Money has never encouraged anyone to push a false narrative ever in the history of the world.
full member
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Yes, let's not get vaccinations anymore...

Especially now the world is so crowded, you wouldn't believe the amount of bodies that need to be removed from the street... Daily!

Chicken pocks, Rabies, Polio... I'll pass thank you.
legendary
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Yes. And not only that, but daylight savings time messes with their circadian rhythm... except in Arizona, where there isn't any daylight savings time.

Cool

True, true! That's another thing, no one likes it. Most people are against it, USA, EU, everywhere.

It shows how badly broken the systems are, if political filth can push that through, against 90% of the affected population.

Some right wing parties and Putin want to put an end to it. The name alone, DAYLIGHT SAVINGS....dumbfuck asswipe propaganda newspeak bullshit lies... Angry Angry Angry

Is it causing the earth and the sun to move, to save daylight??  Roll Eyes
legendary
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You forget to mention, that it is the government filth causing the problem. Kids get tired eventually but the government creates the issue of having to go to bed early, wake up early, to go to school. If school was optional and a free choice of schools, 90% of this issue would go away....

And they get drugged in school too, as adults drugs are abused all the time to keep up with the external pressure. But the cause of this is, most of the time, LACK OF FREEDOM  Angry



Yes. And not only that, but daylight savings time messes with their circadian rhythm... except in Arizona, where there isn't any daylight savings time.

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legendary
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You forget to mention, that it is the government filth causing the problem. Kids get tired eventually but the government creates the issue of having to go to bed early, wake up early, to go to school. If school was optional and a free choice of schools, 90% of this issue would go away....

And they get drugged in school too, as adults drugs are abused all the time to keep up with the external pressure. But the cause of this is, most of the time, LACK OF FREEDOM  Angry

legendary
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WTF?? Companies deliver a product that people voluntarily consume. How come you are into BTC? Most people here believe in libertarian principles and even defend legalization of drugs.

How can you blame a company for making a product? They do not force people at gunpoint, do they? Violence is the governments domain.  Sad
legendary
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Insane vaccine zealots now calling for vaccine skeptics to be PUT TO DEATH...





A recent editorial in the Boston Herald, usually the Democrat-controlled city's lone voice of constitutionalism, liberty and freedom, was scathing in its treatment of responsible parents who have every right to be concerned about their children becoming vaccine injured, whether by adverse reaction or through the injection of mercury-laced ingredients.

Referring to such parents as "anti-vaxxers," the editorial actually relies on a story from the Washington Post, which of course toes the globalist line on everything including medical treatments. The Post piece talks about a measles outbreak in the Somali community in Minnesota, in which a handful of kids contracted the disease, ostensibly because they were not vaccinated.

"Skepticism about vaccines within Minnesota's Somali community goes back a decade, the Post reported, after parents raised concerns about possible higher rates of autism among their children (research later indicated that wasn't the case)," the editorial said.

Stop. First of all, despite the "mainstream" media's repeated dishonest attempts to discredit the research proving a link between vaccines and higher autism rates is a disservice in and of itself, so let's just get that out of the way.

Moving on, the editorial then directly calls for advocates of truth about vaccines to be killed:

These are the facts: Vaccines don't cause autism. Measles can kill. And lying to vulnerable people about the health and safety of their children ought to be a hanging offense.

Just. Wow.

As noted by Erin Elizabeth at Health Nut News, the hue and cry — and call for violence — is not warranted. Not by a long shot.

Using the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's own statistics, she noted that in a nation of more than 310 million people, a paltry 61 people have gotten measles between January and April in the U.S. That is down substantially from a high of 667 cases in 2014, the peak number of cases since measles was considered eradicated in the U.S. in 2000.

Uh, but no one died from any of those cases. No one.

Can people die from measles? Yes, but not in the United States, apparently. So why the call to violence? Has the editorial board of the Boston Herald unilaterally decided that in America, there should be no more debate, no more discussion and no more questioning of globalist orthodoxy when it comes to vaccines, autism and mercury?

Are we just supposed to ignore the dramatically increasing number of autism cases that even the pathetic mainstream media acknowledges? How about the billions in vaccine injury settlements the federal government, via its special vaccine injury fund, pays out annually?


Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-07-insane-vaccine-zealots-now-calling-for-vaccine-skeptics-to-be-put-to-death-so-that-resistance-to-mercury-in-vaccines-can-be-eliminated.html.


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legendary
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Superbug apocalypse rapidly approaching as nearly one-quarter of infections now...





Nearly one-quarter of adults prescribed antibiotics as a first line treatment for community-acquired pneumonia were non-responsive to the medications, a new study revealed. Current guidelines for community-acquired pneumonia, published by the American Thoracic Society and the Infectious Disease Society of America in 2007, offer insight on the disease. However, researchers noted that large-scale, real-world data were needed to gain greater knowledge of antibiotic choices and to better evaluate risk factors that may stem from treatment failure.

As part of the study, a team of researchers looked at databases with records of nearly 252,000 adult patients treated between 2011 and 2015. The patients received a single class of antibiotics — such as beta-lactam, macrolide, tetracycline, or fluoroquinolone — following a health care visit for community-acquired pneumonia. The scientists defined treatment failure based on the following factors: antibiotic refill, antibiotic switch, emergency department visit, and 30-day hospitalization following initial antibiotic prescription.


Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-01-superbug-apocalypse-rapidly-approaching-as-nearly-one-quarter-of-infections-now-untreatable-with-first-line-antibiotics.html.


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sr. member
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In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.



In my personal experience, vaccinated or not is the same.  We are four siblings of my parents.  Our eldest brother got his complete vaccines while the rest of us do not have the vaccines. When I've got measles, my eldest brother got measles too even he has vaccines against it.  I guess there is no difference. I am not against vaccines but I guess, being sick is depend upon the resistance of a person.
legendary
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Increasing number of parents are giving their children SLEEPING DRUGS due to chronic sleep problems





Nobody ever said parenting was easy. The challenges that come with raising a child are difficult yet manageable to some parents, and downright unbearable to others. One of these challenges — getting a child to sleep — can be so unbearable that a number of parents have turned to melatonin drugs to help them overcome it. What brings restful nights to these parents may negatively affect these children in the long run, however.

Such was the warning issued by UK experts disturbed by the growing number of children with sleep disorders. The past decade has seen an alarming number of children, 14 and younger, being admitted into hospitals to help them deal with these sleep issues, reported the DailyMail.co.uk. Melatonin drugs are normally prescribed to insomnia sufferers over the age of 55, yet it seems there are pediatricians who freely recommend them to parents looking for “perfect” children.

That was the word used by sleep expert Dr. Neil Stanley, who first became aware of these cases after general practitioners and nurses brought it to his attention during a lecture. “Most paediatricians know little about sleep or melatonin. For non-autistic children it is a fashionable treatment for parents wanting ‘perfect’ children,” Stanley told TheGuardian.com. “Unless a child has a diagnosed condition such as autism that has been scientifically proven to be helped by melatonin, there is no medical rationale for a child to be given it.”


Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-02-parents-now-drugging-their-children-with-sleeping-drugs.html.


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legendary
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Autism risk 420% higher in vaccinated children vs. non-vaccinated, published science confirms





A recent study led by researchers from the School of Public Health at Jackson State University has come to some shocking conclusions about vaccinated children. Perhaps one of the most jaw-dropping finds was that vaccinated children exhibited a 420 percent higher incidence of autism when compared to non-vaccinated children — as well as a staggering increased incidence of neurodevelopmental disorders (NDD) in general.

As Robert F. Kennedy Jr notes, the researchers stated:

In a final adjusted model designed to test for this possibility, controlling for the interaction of preterm birth and vaccination, the following factors remained significantly associated with NDD: vaccination (OR 2.5, 95% CI: 1.1, 5.6), nonwhite race (OR 2.4, 95% CI: 1.1, 5.4), and male gender (OR 2.3, 95% CI: 1.2, 4.4). Preterm birth itself, however, was not significantly associated with NDD, whereas the combination (interaction) of preterm birth and vaccination was associated with 6.6-fold increased odds of NDD (95% CI: 2.8, 15.5) (Table Cool.


Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-01-autism-risk-420-higher-in-vaccinated-children-vs-non-vaccinated-published-science-confirms.html.


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legendary
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Definitely sounds like a Big Pharma thing to do

There are so many Big Pharma scams coming to light these days that, I wonder if even the simplest of medicine isn't making people sicker than they would have been if they hadn't used it.
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A friend of mine has high blood pressure (so they say) so he takes a certain prescription medication.  The medication makes him dizzy.

I'll bet $100 that if the next guy goes to the doctor about being dizzy and there was a prescription medication that solved that but caused high blood pressure, the doctor would prescribe it and the guy would take it without any questions.

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