Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 54. (Read 45532 times)

There are so many Big Pharma scams coming to light these days that, I wonder if even the simplest of medicine isn't making people sicker than they would have been if they hadn't used it.

What I mean is, how many aspirins can you take a week and keep from being hurt? Native Americans chewed willow bark for their aspirin. Is there something that has been removed from refined aspirin that makes it hurt you years down the road, even if you stopped taking it years ago? What if cataracts were caused by refined aspirin having been used decades ago?

Definitely sounds like a Big Pharma thing to do

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Too much tinfoil even for me. I guess a vaccination is like an insurance policy, you risk a little to avoid a catastrophic risk

I vaccinate but only against the really bad stuff. Certainly no flu shots or "pig flu" or any of that shit LOL

As far as I'm concerned any thinking person should consider the hypothesis that an/any event is an artifact of plans by the likes of Henry Kissinger.  And perhaps that the man himself has had a hand in them.  Kissinger absolutely exists and it's deliberate blindness to ignore that there are others like him.  To this day Kissinger can show up on the doorstep of the whitehouse unscheduled and chat with President Trump whenever he feels like doing so.  Like, say, when James Comey gets fired from FBI and Kissinger (or his sponsors) have something to input about it.

I also see no indication that the likes of Henry Kissinger care any more about the American trailer-trash than they do about third-world mud hut dwellers.  Nor about the gentrified NPR listners here in the land of the free.  Imagining that they do will be their downfall I suspect.

I agree that it is at least a point to consider. The super-wealthy of the world are probably trying to reduce the population by killing people off in any way that they can, and be safe from being lynched for doing it. This is why they are taking so long doing it by vaccination.

But the truth is coming out into the open. And they are becoming desperate. Their schedule is falling behind. And they are even coming close to being discovered for what they are and are doing.

This brings me to the question. Why would they do this? After all, they know they are going to die of old age in a few years. Why all the fight against people since it will all be gone for them, shortly, anyway?

Have they found the secret to life without dying? Have they found the real fountain of youth? Did David Rockefeller fake his own death a couple of months ago? Are they really trying to clear the way for take-over so that they can life forever on an earth that has few others to disagree with them? Is that why they are really trying to kill us all off?

Antivaccinia company aimed at provoking epidemics in all countries. If you do not believe in conspiracy theories that this desire to destroy the excess population of the planet, I think that probably the company aims to increase profits of pharmaceutical companies. Because the treatment is always more expensive than prevention.

In addition, we now have 3 points/methods for curing the diseases so that we see that we don't need vaccines:

1. The fact that super-bugs develop shows us that systems are continually trying to heal themselves. This means that over time, the bodies and immune systems of people will automatically "invent" methods to kill off all diseases within them.

2. Regarding autism directly, MMS (chlorine dioxide) harmlessly cures autism, and can be used to cure many diseases. For example, it destroys malaria, from positive to negative in one day - http://cdautism.org/, http://mmsnews.is/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY2yab0uLc. We don't need vaccines.

3. We now have found the 100-y-o drug, suramin, which has been found to cure kids with autism. Isn't it time that we look at how many other diseases it cures?

The point isn't that we might as well use vaccines to cure things, because we can protect from the side effects.
The point is that we can avoid vaccines other than suramin, and still receive any possible benefits, all without the side effects.

I'd much rather take my chances with a 'smallpox epidemic' than to live in a society where one in 50 people are autistic and 3/5 of people are so fucked up that they need pharmaceutical products.  I would feel that we even if the costs to deal with these damaged people did not come out of my pocket (as a healthy person with no such needs.)  Autism has gone from 1/10,000 when I was a kid to 1/50.  At the current trajectory, which seem to show no signs of slowing down and no sign of an 'understanding', it will be 1/2 (for males) in the not-to-distant future.  Give me a good 'smallpox epidemic' any day over that.  As shown on the charts, the death rate for smallpox was never terribly high, and not even in the same league as autism which is a life-long and highly debilitating condition for many/most sufferers.

As for anthrax, it's not on the schedule in the U.S. (or probably anywhere else except the military where I got mine) and we have zero 'epidemics'.

It looks a lot like you've bought a batch of snake-oil, and took it hook, line, and sinker.  Hopefully you will understand one-day how those of us who have not resent pressure from those who have on our well-being and the well-being of those we care about be they our immediate families, or humanity at large.

How many people get ill after vaccination? May be 0.01% at the most. And even in these cases, the effects hardly last for more than a few hours or days. But imagine what will happen without vaccination. Do you want to live in the midst of smallpox or anthrax epidemics?

you can get ill of vaccination, but risk af serious illness is reduced.

Interesting.

One of the scientists brought over from Germany for 'operation paperclip' was the Nazi regime's bio-warfare expert.  He'd set up an island as an 'animal research center'.  When he got here, he set up an island as an 'animal research center'.  It so happens to be right across from Lyme, Connecticut (though there are plans underway to move it to the center of the country so I hear.)  Dr. Erik Traub was a leading developer of the method of using ticks to distribute diseases when he was working in Germany.

Many microbes were studied for their applicability to lethal and non-lethal biological warfare at our own 'Plum Island.'  One of the main ones seem to be Borrelia Burgdofori and related species.  It is actually very close to syphilis in it's life-ways.  So much so that syphilis can be used as a model, and centuries of research have been done on the organism and it's effects on humans.  This species is the marker for Lyme disease (which should technically be referred to as borreliosis.)

Having a well understood model is key to success in research and development.

Another disease that was highly studied and thus understood, is African river blindness.  It is associated with a worm.  A nematode if I recall correctly.  The worm itself can harbor borrelia species bacteria.  The nematode which is associated with African river blindness is fairly easy to clear up (which is why I found the article interesting.)

I've paid a lot of attention to what Dr. Alan MacDonald has produced over the last few years and I am confident that he is highly competent and no fraud.  His latest findings are very very interesting.  Well worth a listen to anyone who is interested in the subject:

...  Wow ... gone from youtube, or at least well hidden!  He was finding actual worms and eggs in the cerebral-spinal fluid of all MS patients he looked at.  On top of that, with DNA dyes he was finding Borrelia bacteria within the worms.

When I was a kid 40 years ago projections were that we humans would be living easily to 100 years and all that.  In reality, we hit 'peak life expectancy' in the U.S. at least, and life expectancy is on the decline so I read.  A big sigh of relief from those seeking to deal with the anticipated Social Security issues I'm sure.  Also since many people pay their life savings to the medical/industrial complex as they march toward death, another group of people are quite delighted (and are getting stupendously wealthy.)  I think it perfect valid to entertain the hypothesis that some engineering may have been involved in getting us to the point where 3/5'ths of the population on prescription medications.  Like any other investigative work, look for means, motive, opportunity.

I happen to be autistic, and I'd like to clear up some myths that you've covered this thread with.

1.  Most of the health services in Europe are in the public sector.  Therefore, in the event that there was conclusive and tested evidence that a drug would reverse autism symptoms, there would be no profit incentive for them to avoid that drug.  Actually, it would save the state thousands in specialised schools and other aid.

2.  Autism is not always debilitating, nor are autistic people stupid.

3.  As pointed out in 1, if there was conclusive evidence of a drug being successful in "curing" autism (if you can do such a thing), national health services would have an incentive to use it.  Therefore, all the studies that you have posted are inconclusive.  A study does not "prove" anything, and "science" does not unanimously make decisions.  Actually, what we think we know as facts today have changed countless times over many years while real scientists are keeping an open mind and peer reviewing studies effectively.

"Qualifications" mean nothing - tried and tested meta analysis over several years are what means something.

I hope your tin foil hat fits on your big head.

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Texas lawmaker claims your child "belongs to the state" and can be forcibly vaccinated







Texas lawmaker claims your child "belongs to the state" and can be forcibly vaccinated

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