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On the Internet, you can find a lot of materials on the topic that before the year the child should not be vaccinated, because this is a huge blow to his body. But, unfortunately, such diseases as hepatitis B, tuberculosis, diphtheria, whooping cough and a number of other infectious diseases threaten babies from the moment of birth. And only vaccination can protect the child from them.
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99% of the children around the world are vaccinated. And vaccination has been going on for more than 100 years now. I don't think that there is any evidence at all to prove that vaccination is not beneficial to the humans.
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Any vaccine is a complex pharmacological preparation containing protein components, for which the body responds by producing antibodies - immune complexes that protect the body from a particular disease.
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This new groundbreaking survey isn't more than a load of shit. Vaccinating is one of the best scientific invention through the human history. I really have difficulty understanding what the reason for being  unvaccinated human. Vaccinating is a good thing to live a healty long life.
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Vaccination reduces the number of diseases
I think it does not harm health.
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I personally think that vaccination is good for our humans, it can let us produce antibodies to fight the disease, which is very good.
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It is very difficult to debate with people who believe that the vaccination effect can be compared with the placebo effect.Doctors stopped Mongo epidemics through vaccination. It is strange that the descendants of the survivors now want to trigger a new epidemic.

Look at what is happening in countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. In some of the villages there, the clergy has banned vaccination saying that it is unislamic. This has resulted in the recurrence of epidemics such as polio and diphtheria.

Therefore , can we conclude that vaccines ( even with mercury) is better than having none?

Let me explain. Without the vaccines, you will have polio, smallpox, measles, anthrax, diphtheria.etc. With vaccines, there will be a 0.00001% higher chance of autism. Which one you'll chose? If you ask me, then I'll chose the latter option. 
Thank you for your explanation, for this i think, i'll also chose the latter,
does the vaccines with mercury has a long term bad effect on the body?
legendary
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It is very difficult to debate with people who believe that the vaccination effect can be compared with the placebo effect.Doctors stopped Mongo epidemics through vaccination. It is strange that the descendants of the survivors now want to trigger a new epidemic.

Look at what is happening in countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. In some of the villages there, the clergy has banned vaccination saying that it is unislamic. This has resulted in the recurrence of epidemics such as polio and diphtheria.

Therefore , can we conclude that vaccines ( even with mercury) is better than having none?

Let me explain. Without the vaccines, you will have polio, smallpox, measles, anthrax, diphtheria.etc. With vaccines, there will be a 0.00001% higher chance of autism. Which one you'll chose? If you ask me, then I'll chose the latter option. 

With the vaccines, you still often get the diseases. The only reason why vaccination has been so successful in plagues is, plagues die out all by themselves after a while. If you are watchful, you can determine when, apply vaccines at that time, and claim your vaccines did the job. Then you can make lots of money for nothing.

How do we know that plagues die out after a time? Even the super-bugs in the hospitals are making vaccines and medicines obsolete by changing into resistant bugs. People do the same thing, all by themselves, where they become resistant to diseases over time.

Medicine simply takes advantage of the situation to make some money.

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legendary
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In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.




That's in all of the countries. Just I'm amazed how US recognizes "diseases" or ills like adhd,add,learning disabilities.. what the hell is that?! Are they trying to excuse everything now? Sometimes americans just don't help with the stereotype that they're stupid.

Are you trying to say that these diseases are not real? At worst, they are incorrectly diagnosed. They are very real. And it is mostly modern vaccines that are causing them.

Not all vaccines are equal in purity and how they are made. Vaccines of the past were designed to do the simple job. Many present vaccines have mercury in them, and have been designed to make people sick rather than heal them.

How do we know? Because we watch them work. Illness comes on sometimes only a few minutes following the vaccination. They have to be designed to do this, because there are too many examples of it happening. If they weren't designed this way, doctors would stop giving them and do more testing.

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No, I'm saying there are some made up disease to explain people being stupid, uninterested or simply having different mind or way of thinking (add, adhd and stuff like that). Do you have any proof for that? or is there just one case and therefore all are the same?

That's true, we have crap ones here. Do you know why is the mercury in there? Well you know, the antidote is made out of the poison.

I live in a country where vaccines are mandatory, and every year over 10k children recieve them, and how many of them got retarded after it? One. So what's with the other 99%? Mutants? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

You personally checked all 10k of the children? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

Cool

I hope you, yes you Baddecker will also do this on claiming things about God on some threads about religion/science/about god
as the idiom says "The pot calling the kettle black".
Do not ask for something that yourself cannot even give.

I am not going to do your research for you. Research the things that I say, and you will find that my points are at least substantial, if not entirely true.

Cool
Still not considered as general fact which means false information :*

So, you checked everybody out to determine what general fact is? You haven't even explained what you mean by general fact. Is he part of the military and you just forgot to capitalize his name?

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legendary
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It is very difficult to debate with people who believe that the vaccination effect can be compared with the placebo effect.Doctors stopped Mongo epidemics through vaccination. It is strange that the descendants of the survivors now want to trigger a new epidemic.

Look at what is happening in countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. In some of the villages there, the clergy has banned vaccination saying that it is unislamic. This has resulted in the recurrence of epidemics such as polio and diphtheria.

Therefore , can we conclude that vaccines ( even with mercury) is better than having none?

Let me explain. Without the vaccines, you will have polio, smallpox, measles, anthrax, diphtheria.etc. With vaccines, there will be a 0.00001% higher chance of autism. Which one you'll chose? If you ask me, then I'll chose the latter option. 
sr. member
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In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.




That's in all of the countries. Just I'm amazed how US recognizes "diseases" or ills like adhd,add,learning disabilities.. what the hell is that?! Are they trying to excuse everything now? Sometimes americans just don't help with the stereotype that they're stupid.

Are you trying to say that these diseases are not real? At worst, they are incorrectly diagnosed. They are very real. And it is mostly modern vaccines that are causing them.

Not all vaccines are equal in purity and how they are made. Vaccines of the past were designed to do the simple job. Many present vaccines have mercury in them, and have been designed to make people sick rather than heal them.

How do we know? Because we watch them work. Illness comes on sometimes only a few minutes following the vaccination. They have to be designed to do this, because there are too many examples of it happening. If they weren't designed this way, doctors would stop giving them and do more testing.

Cool


No, I'm saying there are some made up disease to explain people being stupid, uninterested or simply having different mind or way of thinking (add, adhd and stuff like that). Do you have any proof for that? or is there just one case and therefore all are the same?

That's true, we have crap ones here. Do you know why is the mercury in there? Well you know, the antidote is made out of the poison.

I live in a country where vaccines are mandatory, and every year over 10k children recieve them, and how many of them got retarded after it? One. So what's with the other 99%? Mutants? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

You personally checked all 10k of the children? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

Cool

I hope you, yes you Baddecker will also do this on claiming things about God on some threads about religion/science/about god
as the idiom says "The pot calling the kettle black".
Do not ask for something that yourself cannot even give.

I am not going to do your research for you. Research the things that I say, and you will find that my points are at least substantial, if not entirely true.

Cool
Still not considered as general fact which means false information :*
legendary
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In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.




That's in all of the countries. Just I'm amazed how US recognizes "diseases" or ills like adhd,add,learning disabilities.. what the hell is that?! Are they trying to excuse everything now? Sometimes americans just don't help with the stereotype that they're stupid.

Are you trying to say that these diseases are not real? At worst, they are incorrectly diagnosed. They are very real. And it is mostly modern vaccines that are causing them.

Not all vaccines are equal in purity and how they are made. Vaccines of the past were designed to do the simple job. Many present vaccines have mercury in them, and have been designed to make people sick rather than heal them.

How do we know? Because we watch them work. Illness comes on sometimes only a few minutes following the vaccination. They have to be designed to do this, because there are too many examples of it happening. If they weren't designed this way, doctors would stop giving them and do more testing.

Cool


No, I'm saying there are some made up disease to explain people being stupid, uninterested or simply having different mind or way of thinking (add, adhd and stuff like that). Do you have any proof for that? or is there just one case and therefore all are the same?

That's true, we have crap ones here. Do you know why is the mercury in there? Well you know, the antidote is made out of the poison.

I live in a country where vaccines are mandatory, and every year over 10k children recieve them, and how many of them got retarded after it? One. So what's with the other 99%? Mutants? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

You personally checked all 10k of the children? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

Cool

I hope you, yes you Baddecker will also do this on claiming things about God on some threads about religion/science/about god
as the idiom says "The pot calling the kettle black".
Do not ask for something that yourself cannot even give.

I am not going to do your research for you. Research the things that I say, and you will find that my points are at least substantial, if not entirely true.

Cool
sr. member
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It is very difficult to debate with people who believe that the vaccination effect can be compared with the placebo effect.Doctors stopped Mongo epidemics through vaccination. It is strange that the descendants of the survivors now want to trigger a new epidemic.

Look at what is happening in countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. In some of the villages there, the clergy has banned vaccination saying that it is unislamic. This has resulted in the recurrence of epidemics such as polio and diphtheria.

Therefore , can we conclude that vaccines ( even with mercury) is better than having none?
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 252
In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.




That's in all of the countries. Just I'm amazed how US recognizes "diseases" or ills like adhd,add,learning disabilities.. what the hell is that?! Are they trying to excuse everything now? Sometimes americans just don't help with the stereotype that they're stupid.

Are you trying to say that these diseases are not real? At worst, they are incorrectly diagnosed. They are very real. And it is mostly modern vaccines that are causing them.

Not all vaccines are equal in purity and how they are made. Vaccines of the past were designed to do the simple job. Many present vaccines have mercury in them, and have been designed to make people sick rather than heal them.

How do we know? Because we watch them work. Illness comes on sometimes only a few minutes following the vaccination. They have to be designed to do this, because there are too many examples of it happening. If they weren't designed this way, doctors would stop giving them and do more testing.

Cool


No, I'm saying there are some made up disease to explain people being stupid, uninterested or simply having different mind or way of thinking (add, adhd and stuff like that). Do you have any proof for that? or is there just one case and therefore all are the same?

That's true, we have crap ones here. Do you know why is the mercury in there? Well you know, the antidote is made out of the poison.

I live in a country where vaccines are mandatory, and every year over 10k children recieve them, and how many of them got retarded after it? One. So what's with the other 99%? Mutants? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

You personally checked all 10k of the children? If you're going to claim something, unleast put up some evidences.

Cool

I hope you, yes you Baddecker will also do this on claiming things about God on some threads about religion/science/about god
as the idiom says "The pot calling the kettle black".
Do not ask for something that yourself cannot even give.
legendary
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Merit: 1352
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It is very difficult to debate with people who believe that the vaccination effect can be compared with the placebo effect.Doctors stopped Mongo epidemics through vaccination. It is strange that the descendants of the survivors now want to trigger a new epidemic.

Look at what is happening in countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. In some of the villages there, the clergy has banned vaccination saying that it is unislamic. This has resulted in the recurrence of epidemics such as polio and diphtheria.
sr. member
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Most replies here pro vaccine or even against is just a horrible read.Most of both sides have no clue what they are talking about.

But there is a great sentance that says : People spend more time studing the features of their new cellphone than the content of their children vaccines
legendary
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Prescription drug insert sheets blasted as "unreadable" … they're intentionally design





If you've ever taken a prescription drug, you are probably familiar with those paper inserts that come inside the package – although there's a good chance you've never actually read every word on them. These papers are filled with tiny print outlining the medication's purpose, dosage, and side effects, but they are so long and technical that few people actually read them from start to finish.

The U.K.'s Academy of Medical Sciences recently slammed the pamphlets in a report, saying that patients find them "unreadable" and "impenetrable" and that they need to be made clearer to increase patient understanding.

The Chair of the report, Professor Sir John Tooke, took pharmaceutical companies to task for the confusing scientific language used in the leaflets. For example, the inserts inside acetaminophen mention the chances of developing pancreatitis and hepatitis but don't shed light into what those conditions are or just how high the risk is. He says the inserts "aren't written from a consumer's perspective."

Of course, this complex language is really good at accomplishing one thing: making people give up in frustration and ensuring they do not grasp the full extent of the possible side effects that could occur from taking a particular medication. By obscuring the truth about a drug's side effects and risks, more people will take them and refill their prescription without worrying too much about the repercussions, fattening the wallets of Big Pharma.

By the way, this problem extends to vaccines. In fact, many patients never even read the inserts that come with vaccines because their doctors open up the package and administer it on the spot. If they did read it, they would have known, for example, that the fine print on the package insert of the 2013-2014 flu shot contained mercury, thimerosal and formaldehyde, and that its safety had not been established in pregnant women even though it was administered to them. Even more outrageously, the vaccine comes with just one insert despite being a 10-dose vial intended for 10 different people.

Patients, doctors don't trust pharmaceutical companies

The Academy of Medical Sciences report also showed that patients trust their friends and family's opinion more than clinical trial results when it comes to the effectiveness and safety of the drugs they take. After surveying more than 2,000 members of the public and 1,000 doctors, they found that 65 percent of people trust the opinion of their friends and family, while just 37 percent trust medical research evidence.


Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-28-prescription-drug-insert-sheets-blasted-as-unreadable.html.


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Not all vaccines are equal in purity and how they are made. Vaccines of the past were designed to do the simple job. Many present vaccines have mercury in them, and have been designed to make people sick rather than heal them.

Only a few of the vaccines contain mercury. I don't believe that Mercury is in anyway beneficial to the human body, but in ancient medicine (especially in India and China), it was used as a part of many remedies.
Yeah, I remembered it now, the ingredient is Mercury, It's not beneficial to the body, and i think there is also a research that show that ancient china's healing method (acupuncture) is nonsense.

It is a very difficult thing determining what works and what doesn't. The placebo effect gets in the way. Perhaps death is simply a very powerful placebo effect.

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The placebo effect doesn't get in the way at all in most cases.  You just have a control group which is given a placebo instead of the real treatment, and give the real treatment to a separate group.  You can also do stuff like "double blind" studies where neither the doctor nor the patient know whether the patient will get the placebo or real treatment, so that there's almost no chance of there being biases on the patient's side.

These things are quite easy, but people don't do them all the time because they like to think that science is some kind of magical thing that happens in a land far away, and that all scientists suddenly agree on the same thing.  Articles like "scientists have found...", are utter nonsense, as are any claims of a "breakthrough".

You should have a look at the Bad Science page by Ben Goldacre, where he points out some of these bullshit studies and why they are that way.
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It is very difficult to debate with people who believe that the vaccination effect can be compared with the placebo effect.Doctors stopped Mongo epidemics through vaccination. It is strange that the descendants of the survivors now want to trigger a new epidemic.
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Not all vaccines are equal in purity and how they are made. Vaccines of the past were designed to do the simple job. Many present vaccines have mercury in them, and have been designed to make people sick rather than heal them.

Only a few of the vaccines contain mercury. I don't believe that Mercury is in anyway beneficial to the human body, but in ancient medicine (especially in India and China), it was used as a part of many remedies.
Yeah, I remembered it now, the ingredient is Mercury, It's not beneficial to the body, and i think there is also a research that show that ancient china's healing method (acupuncture) is nonsense.

It is a very difficult thing determining what works and what doesn't. The placebo effect gets in the way. Perhaps death is simply a very powerful placebo effect.

Cool
It is a very difficult thing determining what works and what doesn't? NO
Placebo Effect? YES, Maybe because of placebo that's why ancient medicines like acupuncture works.
It has been researched and resulted into facts that it is not really healing , maybe because of this, Placebo effect will possibly not work.
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