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Topic: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force - page 9. (Read 45979 times)

hero member
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So, we got scammed and lost ~300 BTC. what now?

First, most important thing: reference
- reference thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-please-read-1000-pcs-usb-erupters-euint-price-089btc-252180
- reference user: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vdragon-79855

What happened:
vdragon started a group buy for buying 1000 block erupter devices from yxt
he collected funds from the participants and pretended driving to yxt for personally picking up the order
the day on he seemed beeing on the way he cleared the wallet and started washing the money


There are some possibilities:
A: he is clean. still on the drive way or pausing in a motel without internet. and has a fucking reason pushing all our 300 btc through a mixer
B: was a legit member before and decided to do this scam shortly
C: scam was planned long before and so are all old posts fake and just part of a story (=we are screwed)

This is why you don't deal with noobs.

Next time random idiot comes up with whatever these come up with and I go "see here", you post under me saying "Yeah, what MPOE-PR said" instead of sending the random idiot your BTC.
hero member
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sounds like he bought it locally
should check this Hungary Bitcoin Group
newbie
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it seems that vdragon owns or owned an avalon,
maybe we can trace back via this way?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2356609
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1635436

I assume the avalon owners are pretty limited and the company maybe can help tracing

Or via Pool owners, they maybe record ip addresses
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2030686
hero member
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maybe he never was in Hungary?
or his mining rig pictures are just plain stolen...
legendary
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The font is similar to "Angelina regular" - last letter "e" is skewed or another font used. There can be just a part of the name or slogan.

Ive created very coarse representation of logo just to get any idea how it could looks like.

Nor color or shape is precise. Dont use it to google image search - wont get any results (ive checked but please feel free to try other services)



I tried that too and looked for phone,telecom companies but found no result Sad
member
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The font is similar to "Angelina regular" - last letter "e" is skewed or another font used. There can be just a part of the name or slogan.

Ive created very coarse representation of logo just to get any idea how it could looks like.

Nor color or shape is precise. Dont use it to google image search - wont get any results (ive checked but please feel free to try other services)

full member
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Ok, I've located the linked shop and the bank mentioned.

I'm searcing around this area.
hero member
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I'm "walking" through SZEGED with street view finding for that mysterious logo....

 Angry

good idea! thanks, keep us updated

i think it could be some internet cafe and the pics were shoot in a office or private room
legendary
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this could be the shop listed in his details.

did he sent a refund from this bank account? if not this could be anyone elses bank account and he speculated that most will pay in BTC. means: this could be a totaly stolen identity.
newbie
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when you miror the picture you see it's written " PHONE " on the windows
looks like a phone shop
legendary
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And the Picture linked above with the logo and the text on the window, I am pretty
sure the text says "phone" in lowercase in an unusal font. Maybe some phonecompany logo?


True
https://i.imgur.com/m7Bef6m.jpg


full member
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I'm "walking" through SZEGED with street view finding for that mysterious logo....

 Angry
hero member
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Hope you get your coins back everyone and this guys is brought to justice!
newbie
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i checked the IBAN and my bank accept it:
IBAN: HU87104028128050555357506002
SWIFT: OKHBHUHB
Bank name: K ES H BANK ZRT. 126 SZEGED, 5., KLAUZAL TER, SZEGED

When is here somebody from Hungary, please go to pollice and give notice of fraud.


full member
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KUPO!
For people based in the UK there is a site called actionfraud where you can report online fraud. I'm not sure btc scams are recognised as a form of electronic fraud but we can give it a go.
Didn't know about this site. Cheers will give it a bash
member
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i will offer a 1 bitcoin reward if i can get my 7.12 bitcoins back!
I will do the same - 1.5 BTC for my 8.9 BCT
newbie
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i will offer a 1 bitcoin reward if i can get my 7.12 bitcoins back!
sr. member
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Try to contact peoples who paid him cash and bank transfer. You can get more details easily.
"gapthemind" the only forum member who paid with SEPA - not answering any PMs - probably fake account
the other two who "paid in cash" arent linked to any forum user and could be just some random names


He just posted this in the original thread:
As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Edit:
Also, for reference, I contacted a Nemet Gyula on meetup:
http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinBudapest/members/50888732/

He is in the Groupbuy list as having ordered 2 Units and paid cash, will pickup localy.
Will let you know if I hear anything back.

And the Picture linked above with the logo and the text on the window, I am pretty
sure the text says "phone" in lowercase in an unusal font. Maybe some phonecompany logo?
newbie
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Btw If you look at the hotmail headers, it reports as encoding iso-8859-2 which is the encoding used in some languages including Hungarian. So there might be some truth that he is indeed from Hungary. Please do have a look and verify or not my finding
hero member
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Try to contact peoples who paid him cash and bank transfer. You can get more details easily.
"gapthemind" the only forum member who paid with SEPA - gived bank details, need to check these
the other two who "paid in cash" arent linked to any forum user and could be just some random names
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