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February 06, 2018, 11:24:58 PM
This thread is a repository of the findings of all parties.  My only contribution to this thread was to simply keep it on task with research.  I enjoy learning what is happening and take offense to detours of the original intent.  Such negativity only discourages and harms progress.  We're not curing cancer here but I do see merit in such an investment to walk a different path for research.  For this I applaud the brave few, even if it is not cheap to run, hashes less, or simply never ROI's.  I do feel that some people here on the forum are smarter than some folks over at AMD and might find some interesting things out.  Other forum members in other post reverse engineer firmware from asic companies all day long and know more about the shit than the oem.  I am just waiting for these types of breakthroughs to happen here in this post.  If this forum could combine the IQ's of many some serious stuff would be solved.

I would gladly pay for something that made Vegas mine 2X more for the same power.  I am hoping that is where this thread goes, let alone potentially for free as implied in the title.

Cute post. I don't think you understand a number of things but that is fine. I believe that AMD hardware and embedded software engineers who are tasked with developing custom boards and memory controllers would take some offence at your statements. I think they know quite well what they are dealing with when they spec a new board. I don't know what you expect to learn since no one has reversed engineered AMD graphics drivers but please go ahead and start a new thread with the challenge being to reverse engineer a GPU driver binary and see how many smart people stand up.

As I already told you, you can do whatever you want and term it research if you like but you must understand that we have all the control you could ever ask for. AMD allowed us to push the physical limits of the hardware, by allowing modification of the power and clock frequencies to be manipulated via the windows reg. You can't do that with Nvida. So please since we can already over clock and under volt, please tell me what else you hope to learn? The mining software becomes the next most important piece. If you want to know what the hardware limitations are, that is also well documented.

The only way you are going to get a 2x more out of the Vegas would be to double the memory speed (GDDR6). There is only so much software can do. You can't make a Pentium 75 into an Core i7 through software.

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February 06, 2018, 10:31:13 PM
jr. member
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February 06, 2018, 09:47:53 PM
This thread is a repository of the findings of all parties.  My only contribution to this thread was to simply keep it on task with research.  I enjoy learning what is happening and take offense to detours of the original intent.  Such negativity only discourages and harms progress.  We're not curing cancer here but I do see merit in such an investment to walk a different path for research.  For this I applaud the brave few, even if it is not cheap to run, hashes less, or simply never ROI's.  I do feel that some people here on the forum are smarter than some folks over at AMD and might find some interesting things out.  Other forum members in other post reverse engineer firmware from asic companies all day long and know more about the shit than the oem.  I am just waiting for these types of breakthroughs to happen here in this post.  If this forum could combine the IQ's of many some serious stuff would be solved.

I would gladly pay for something that made Vegas mine 2X more for the same power.  I am hoping that is where this thread goes, let alone potentially for free as implied in the title.
newbie
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February 06, 2018, 09:22:25 PM
Can the BS stop so the men can get back to work?  This thread is about logging the progress of Vega development.  Page 1 says he doesn't give a rats ass about profits or efficiencies.  This is pure R&D.

I've read all 10 pages of this thread and you jump in today with multiple post stating the OP is a liar, is stupid, and you wish to see his P&L on his investment.  With such intellect and wisdom please add some useful information regarding vega mining development of driver tweaking and other optimizations.

Some of us here are reading, wish to learn and respect the hard work of others.  If you wish to pick fights about +/-% of hash, profits, or ROI please go elsewhere.  This is research in the making and is a work in progress.

I have been following the so called "wisdom" here and I have posted here before (Page 5), where if you read all the pages you would know that. No, I don't believe that he paid off his whole rig in a month. Please prove that.

I have given tons of advice to people about how to setup a vega rig using CAST XMR

You cannot tweak a driver unless you have access to the source code for that driver

Making changes to a windows reg file to adjust memory speeds and memory controller speeds is not driver tweaking, that is registry tweaking in this instance and you can do the same with other tools like Wattman to a lesser degree. If you want to play with different voltages and memory clock speeds, by all means go right ahead as it is well documented on how to do so. There are plenty of others with far superiour performance numbers with Cryptonight. You don't need this guy to tell you how to do that.

I never called him stupid, but I do think he is full of crap.

I have told you that is makes no sense to mine ETH with a vega. That is "Wisdom" for those who want to make money as what he is doing here is just for fun Smiley and has no real world application, unless all cryptonight based coins ceased to exist tomorrow.

The OP called "Rigged" no doubt is posting dubious information about how much he is making so I would say that no, he does seem to care about the ROI as he boasts about how he has paid off everything and is now just making pure profit, since he sold at the top of the market for everything, despite his problems with keeping is miner running with "stability" on CAST XMR. How much could you have made without all the tweaking downtime and mining downtime??

Seems like the OP has a few holes in his story making everything I posted quite relevant to this thread and its calling bull where it needs to be called not picking a fight.







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February 06, 2018, 08:56:29 PM
Can the BS stop so the men can get back to work?  This thread is about logging the progress of Vega development.  Page 1 says he doesn't give a rats ass about profits or efficiencies.  This is pure R&D.

I've read all 10 pages of this thread and you jump in today with multiple post stating the OP is a liar, is stupid, and you wish to see his P&L on his investment.  With such intellect and wisdom please add some useful information regarding vega mining development of driver tweaking and other optimizations.

Some of us here are reading, wish to learn and respect the hard work of others.  If you wish to pick fights about +/-% of hash, profits, or ROI please go elsewhere.  This is research in the making and is a work in progress.
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February 06, 2018, 08:45:14 PM
ignore button works well  Grin
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February 06, 2018, 08:06:26 PM
the miner is stable ie no freezes no crashes no blue screens

ETH is the most profitable crypto to mine NOW (whattomine is your friend)

I was mining ETN and SUMO last year at 2000+Hs/GPU (sold all at the highs)



my question stands is anybody getting close to 275MH/s on ETH with any 6 cards?


Ya so I know how to use those tools and no way do you even know what you talking about! I use CAST XMR and I have never had a bluescreen or seen the miner crash even 1 time. You don't speak for Vega owners and in no way are you correct in your assertions and pronouncements.

If you read this thread and you think ETH is the best use for your vega you are wasting your time.

yes right now its the most profitable or close to at these price levels, dont take my word for it look at whattomine etc im getting 642MH/s system wide vs 27800H/s on cryptonight
i never suggested what YOU should mine by merely pointing out my results and methodology, if that is so terrible for you then i suggest a calm corner and some playdough

i owe you nothing, now run along


What you are is full of crap. I told you l know how to use whattomine and my figures trounce yours. You don't even know how to configure CAST XMR to run correctly.

Lol you sold at all the highs.. wow you are trading genius as well!  Congrats man. Stop lying to people.

newbie
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February 06, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
the miner is stable ie no freezes no crashes no blue screens

ETH is the most profitable crypto to mine NOW (whattomine is your friend)

I was mining ETN and SUMO last year at 2000+Hs/GPU (sold all at the highs)



my question stands is anybody getting close to 275MH/s on ETH with any 6 cards?


Ya so I know how to use those tools and no way do you even know what you talking about! I use CAST XMR and I have never had a bluescreen or seen the miner crash even 1 time. You don't speak for Vega owners and in no way are you correct in your assertions and pronouncements.

If you read this thread and you think ETH is the best use for your vega you are wasting your time.

yes right now its the most profitable or close to at these price levels, dont take my word for it look at whattomine etc im getting 642MH/s system wide vs 27800H/s on cryptonight
i never suggested what YOU should mine by merely pointing out my results and methodology, if that is so terrible for you then i suggest a calm corner and some playdough

i owe you nothing, now run along


What you are is full of crap. I told you l know how to use whattomine and my figures trounce yours. You don't even know how to configure CAST XMR to run correctly.
newbie
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February 06, 2018, 07:58:06 PM
the miner is stable ie no freezes no crashes no blue screens

ETH is the most profitable crypto to mine NOW (whattomine is your friend)

I was mining ETN and SUMO last year at 2000+Hs/GPU (sold all at the highs)

someone pissed in your cereal?

my question stands is anybody getting close to 275MH/s on ETH with any 6 cards?


Oh and by your math you should go buy the fastest ETH miners on the plannet
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-v

Does probably double the hash rate of the Vega when you get it tuned right with the best miner and you only need 4 of them to crush your 6 card vega rig
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-titan-v-crypto-mining-performance-tested-bitsbetrippin-spoiler-monster//

And again by your math you should have that paid off in what.. a few days??
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February 06, 2018, 07:57:48 PM
the miner is stable ie no freezes no crashes no blue screens

ETH is the most profitable crypto to mine NOW (whattomine is your friend)

I was mining ETN and SUMO last year at 2000+Hs/GPU (sold all at the highs)



my question stands is anybody getting close to 275MH/s on ETH with any 6 cards?


Ya so I know how to use those tools and no way do you even know what you talking about! I use CAST XMR and I have never had a bluescreen or seen the miner crash even 1 time. You don't speak for Vega owners and in no way are you correct in your assertions and pronouncements.

If you read this thread and you think ETH is the best use for your vega you are wasting your time.

yes right now its the most profitable or close to at these price levels, dont take my word for it look at whattomine etc im getting 642MH/s system wide vs 27800H/s on cryptonight
i never suggested what YOU should mine by merely pointing out my results and methodology, if that is so terrible for you then i suggest a calm corner and some playdough

i owe you nothing, now run along
newbie
Activity: 99
Merit: 0
February 06, 2018, 07:36:41 PM
the miner is stable ie no freezes no crashes no blue screens

ETH is the most profitable crypto to mine NOW (whattomine is your friend)

I was mining ETN and SUMO last year at 2000+Hs/GPU (sold all at the highs)



my question stands is anybody getting close to 275MH/s on ETH with any 6 cards?


Ya so I know how to use those tools and no way do you even know what you talking about! I use CAST XMR and I have never had a bluescreen or seen the miner crash even 1 time. You don't speak for Vega owners and in no way are you correct in your assertions and pronouncements.

If you read this thread and you think ETH is the best use for your vega you are wasting your time.
newbie
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February 06, 2018, 07:31:53 PM
just for clarity,

i know that ETH mining with these cards does not (at present) yield the best returns in terms of financial gain when compared to other coins, but being a crypro miner, for me at least, is not only about making money but primarily its about BUSTING THE BANKS, i fucking hate them and the current debt slave system imposed on us without consent and by sheer indoctrination from cradle.

If looking at the financial aspect one also has to consider further gains from price fluctuations so cashing in ETH for anything else today, can lead to dismay in the future when ETH price moons. (i know this from my experience in trading commodities)

i am very passionate on this subject as i have internal knowledge of the current global financial system and i would need terabytes to outline the details, history, and implications of our current reality.

Being a crypto miner no matter the scale is an act of REVOLUTION against the fat lazy greedy subhuman pieces of excrement taking all of us for a ride with their tri tier system of control, namely interest, inflation, taxation.

this man deserves recognition for his elloquence in telling the IRS to FUCK OFF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCfk7a2Va0

BE A REVOLUTIONARY AND MINE

well, well, haven't we come full circle
this is to all of you whom called me stupid, dumb and even criminal, i have rather enjoyed the ETH price hike from $350 when i started mining to the current $1.150 as it allowed me to completely pay off the rig costs in 50days and are now mining on pure profit
with cryptonight coin prices plummeting, ETH/ETC are just as if not more profitable
was an avid ETN miner until I got fed up with their shitty wallet and non existent service, did the sumo for while and now back to ETH as it shows more promise than any other crypto currency as I had originaly thought

got the 12 x 64Vegas on ETH 44+MH/s stable but I'm having problems with the FE's as i cant get them to hash above 42MH/s
any suggestions are very welcome

Without a full disclosure of your p&L I call bullshit.
member
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February 06, 2018, 07:24:20 PM
the miner is stable ie no freezes no crashes no blue screens

ETH is the most profitable crypto to mine NOW (whattomine is your friend)

I was mining ETN and SUMO last year at 2000+Hs/GPU (sold all at the highs)

someone pissed in your cereal?

my question stands is anybody getting close to 275MH/s on ETH with any 6 cards?
newbie
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February 06, 2018, 07:08:01 PM
just to update,

I get all cards running at 45.5 apart from the first on in the NTool list and its very stable, that's 5/6 for a total of

272MH/s with 6 VEGA64

settings are the same as above but MEM P3 set at 1140MHz

Cool notes on ETH, but why bother with ETH on a vega? You just like to make less money or you are just a researcher and don't care about money?

you have obviously not read the thread
ETH is the most profitable and stable mine at the mo
and yes I am researching

correct me if I'm wrong I know little about cuda cards but is anyone mining ETH with ANY 6 GPUs faster than 272MH/s STABLE (or 45.5/card)?
I'm still pushing the envelope, maybe by tomorrow I will get another Mhash out of them lol

You could not be more wrong about that. ETH with those hash rates enjoys a very slim 30 cent advantage over cryptonight when mem clocks are at 1100.  If I crank my mem up I will make more on cryptonight even with cryptnoight coins at half their value at the moment. I also care about power which you don't. All that work for 30 cents is not worth it for anyone not doing a science project. Stable?? What are you talking about? Maybe in Norway it sucks to mine cryptonight?? Please don't make claims like ETH is the most stable, that just sounds stupid. I suppose you also have access the best coffee in the world as well.

Thanks for showing me that ETH is not worth the effort.




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February 06, 2018, 06:21:44 PM
Have you tried mining Neoscrypt with the Vegas? I read somewhere they should be able to easily reach 1200MH/s+. Might actually be more profitable than ETH if used on a Neoscrypt switching pool like Zergpool or Ahashpool. Should be able to try Gatelessgate Sharp or NSGminer.

haven't tried neoscrypt yet, its next on the to do list though thanx for the pointers!

those here from pg1 know i have a thing about speed mining ETH (and getting 4 cryptonight threads on the FE )


                                                          275+MH/s

                                                        from 6 Vega64  
                                                              ...Cool...  


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February 06, 2018, 06:10:27 PM
Have you tried mining Neoscrypt with the Vegas? I read somewhere they should be able to easily reach 1200MH/s+. Might actually be more profitable than ETH if used on a Neoscrypt switching pool like Zergpool or Ahashpool. Should be able to try Gatelessgate Sharp or NSGminer.
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February 06, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
 

                                                          275+MH/s

 from 6 Vega64  
                                                              ...Cool...  



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February 06, 2018, 05:07:40 PM
thnx KL0nLutiy1 that's how I got the file to play with Cheesy


I'm up to 48.2MH/s...

testing...
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February 06, 2018, 03:49:54 PM
reading through any and all material I can find on the net concerning VEGA mining sheds lesser results than the ones im currently achieving,

this is not gloating but it boggles my mind that I am the only one around getting super stable:

claymore ETH @45.2MH/s with the 64s and 46.3MH/s with the FEs

gimme a minute I will post the NTool settings to achieve this, hey this thread is FREE WISDOM afterall  Grin

btw i'm almost there getting the FE to run 4 threads on cryptonight ie 4000H/s /GPU,
before letting the cat out the bag i will be stocking up on FEs cause paying $3000 per FE is not something i want to do to myself

What about 4 threads on FEs? is it successful?

I'm getting xmr stak to register 4 threads on 1 FE, run the miner settings, connect to nanopool and detect packet and that's where it stops with the cursor flashing (ie not frozen)
maybe I'm not giving enough time or my start file is incorrect or the mem alloc  shoud be 25% lol I'm still testing as you can tell,
 I never tried using this miner before even with 1 thread per card, so maybe there is something basic I'm missing.

can you post a correct start file (AMD file too maybe) with 1 or 2 threads per card that works?
I could run a comparison this way otherwise I'm just doing this with no support (I'm used to it)
thinking in hex and not dec scale when setting values helps and no where else will you read this

short answer I'm getting there

Just use the last version of xmrstack it will automatically generate configs for vega cards:
https://github.com/fireice-uk/xmr-stak/releases/tag/v2.2.0
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February 06, 2018, 02:29:08 PM
just to update,

I get all cards running at 45.5 apart from the first on in the NTool list and its very stable, that's 5/6 for a total of

272MH/s with 6 VEGA64

settings are the same as above but MEM P3 set at 1140MHz

Cool notes on ETH, but why bother with ETH on a vega? You just like to make less money or you are just a researcher and don't care about money?

you have obviously not read the thread
ETH is the most profitable and stable mine at the mo
and yes I am researching

correct me if I'm wrong I know little about cuda cards but is anyone mining ETH with ANY 6 GPUs faster than 272MH/s STABLE (or 45.5/card)?
I'm still pushing the envelope, maybe by tomorrow I will get another Mhash out of them lol
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