Topic: [VMC] Unofficial Virtual Mining Corporation Discussion - page 8. (Read 10865 times)

Sort it out with Ken - you've admitted you cocked up the order initially - you know it was under pre-order terms - so frankly at this stage I think you're being unreasonable.

Just want my promised money back. That's all I ask.

It's because you've been labeled as a troll Magzy - rightly or wrongly - I suspect it's down to repeated tantrums.

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I wish ken and all the investors the very best in their vision for BTC but to engage in blatant meandering of customers pre-order money is tantamount to stealing (see my email thread with VMC above)

I have refrained from contacting the police over VMC's fraud  thus far.

My bank has advised me to file a police complaint.

Says that if I want to file a complaint with them (and effort to reverse the wire transfer funds from their Bank of America account) I have to have a case number.

Given that I'm not in the US I have to file a complaint with the Australian Federal Police who in turn will contact the FBI (it being a federal matter as opposed to a state one)

There are also some free trade obligations that have to be satisfied as well but haven't looked too far into this.

With a crime reference number in both australia and the US the bank counterparties can then enter a dialoge to recover funds.

Members and shareholders, at which point should I contact the police and register a crime has taken place in order to get my money back from VMC?

It would appear that this company is insolvent and doesn't have the money to refund pre order customers.

Instead is selling cards that will not ROI to fund the refunds and said writer is at the bottom of the list for complaining to the attorney Generals office that I have been scammed.

The whole setup is a ponzi scheme. Robbing peter to pay paul.

I should just shut up, let him sell more cards to unsuspecting customers so he can get more money to pay me back.

Then again, I would be complicit in fraud

You're so full of shit @ken

Ken, are you saying now that I am at the bottom of the list when it comes to refunds next week?

That's a whole lot of excuses right there.  Just refund the OP their money already.  It's garbage like this that would prevent anyone like myself from ever ordering from you.

What he did wrong was ask for a refund before his wire transfer had cleared the bank.  This caused his refund request to be rejected as the order had not been paid.  Then, when his wire transfer cleared the bank it was not marked as accepted on his account, most likely due to his refund request above.  Now, it took another month for his payment to be accepted on his account.  Now, his refund request most likely was in limbo due to it being reject above.  Now, when that was cleared up his refund request was on the bottom of the stack.  Now, that is where it is now as we are waiting to start refunds again within the next week or so.  That being said, since he complained the the Missouri Attorney General office, we had to pull his refund from the stack and respond to the Attorney Generals office.  Therefore his refund is the very bottom of the stack.   

Here is the customer service dialog I have had to endure with VMC in order to get my money back.

If you order from VMC expect the same treatment

(Read from bottom up)

where are our refunds ken???

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I sort of agree with your sentiment but Kenneth slaughter is a lying tw@t who is still actively scamming people - he's still accepting orders for non existent miners isn't he? He's not giving refunds (he says he is but I can attest that in asking for it for the last three months he's out and out lied)

That's kind of the way I feel, but I will give them a chance before passing judgement. Just as I decided to give Ken a chance by ordering ASICs from him. I kind of felt like he was the red headed step child of Bitcoin ASIC land. A few people at the San Jose Bitcoin conference told me they had met him and he was weird. A lot of people have been giving him a hard time on the forums since forever. At that point I kind of felt bad for him and decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and some business... and I still feel like he has genuine intentions. I just think he is in way over his head at this point and I would like the money back.

To break even he would need to deliver me like 10x-50x (who knows when they'll actually ship) the equipment he would have had to deliver in December for me to make the same amount of Bitcoins. It is simply unfeasible. A couple months ago (I think) Ken told me personally that they would ship more equipment to allow us to at least break even in USD. I don't feel like he was lying to me when he said that he would, but it is the fact that it is just totally unbelievable at this point because of the length of the delays and the ballooning network difficulty.

I still feel he has good intentions and refuse to believe otherwise unless ActM/VMC turn out to be a complete scam. Delays with refunds are understandable IMO... there can be many unforeseen factors hindering refunds that he cannot release details on publicly due to the thin line he's walking as far as regulatory status. It sounds like they got Goxxed too.

You have more chance of getting money out of the now defunct Gox than Kenneth Slaughter of VMC. He's a scam artist.

I just now requested a refund just now for order #QORQEBOJA placed on 2013-08-07 using BTC via Mt. Gox for $8,348.00 total

I will let you guys know how it goes.