Topic: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position - page 27. (Read 55257 times)

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 12:52:24 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Quote from: SavellM on May 29, 2015, 01:37:51 PM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

According to your view, you are asking an indirect loan here. That is enough for a negative feedback as you don't have any trust here.

Once again you said: "I haven't seen him leaving a negative feedback for just advertising BTCJam link here."
But apparently you say I "you are asking an indirect loan here", which clearly in my original thread I clarify that I was not looking for a loan here but on BTCjam.
So where do I stand with your biased view?
I am fine under your terms of advertising my BTCjam link, and also NOT fine under your same terms of posting a BTCjam link here.

Do the math

I mean he doesn't leave negative feedback only because you advertised your loan listing here. He left you negative feedback because you didn't have any trust to ask for 7.5BTC loan.

Its still one and the same...

'Trust' is the main problem. If you have good trust, he will not leave you a negative feedback but you didn't have to ask 7.5BTC loan.

But this is not what Vod or you said or required at first.
You are changing the goal posts.
Also I did have trust up to the level of A on BTCjam... That is where I was asking for the loan.
My trust was adequate there for the needs.

I seriously wish I never did ask, as I wouldn't have to deal with you and Vod.
I could continue on my merry way making loans and still paying them back.

Muhammed Zakir

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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 01:32:30 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 12:52:24 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 01:32:30 PM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

According to your view, you are asking an indirect loan here. That is enough for a negative feedback as you don't have any trust here.

Once again you said: "I haven't seen him leaving a negative feedback for just advertising BTCJam link here."
But apparently you say I "you are asking an indirect loan here", which clearly in my original thread I clarify that I was not looking for a loan here but on BTCjam.
So where do I stand with your biased view?
I am fine under your terms of advertising my BTCjam link, and also NOT fine under your same terms of posting a BTCjam link here.

Do the math

I mean he doesn't leave negative feedback only because you advertised your loan listing here. He left you negative feedback because you didn't have any trust to ask for 7.5BTC loan.

Its still one and the same...

'Trust' is the main problem. If you have good trust, he will not leave you a negative feedback but you didn't have to ask 7.5BTC loan.

SavellM

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Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 12:52:24 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

According to your view, you are asking an indirect loan here. That is enough for a negative feedback as you don't have any trust here.

Once again you said: "I haven't seen him leaving a negative feedback for just advertising BTCJam link here."
But apparently you say I "you are asking an indirect loan here", which clearly in my original thread I clarify that I was not looking for a loan here but on BTCjam.
So where do I stand with your biased view?
I am fine under your terms of advertising my BTCjam link, and also NOT fine under your same terms of posting a BTCjam link here.

Do the math

I mean he doesn't leave negative feedback only because you advertised your loan listing here. He left you negative feedback because you didn't have any trust to ask for 7.5BTC loan.

Its still one and the same...

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 12:52:24 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 12:52:24 PM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

According to your view, you are asking an indirect loan here. That is enough for a negative feedback as you don't have any trust here.

Once again you said: "I haven't seen him leaving a negative feedback for just advertising BTCJam link here."
But apparently you say I "you are asking an indirect loan here", which clearly in my original thread I clarify that I was not looking for a loan here but on BTCjam.
So where do I stand with your biased view?
I am fine under your terms of advertising my BTCjam link, and also NOT fine under your same terms of posting a BTCjam link here.

Do the math

I mean he doesn't leave negative feedback only because you advertised your loan listing here. He left you negative feedback because you didn't have any trust to ask for 7.5BTC loan.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Quote from: Tomatocage1 on May 29, 2015, 12:59:42 PM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

According to your view, you are asking an indirect loan here. That is enough for a negative feedback as you don't have any trust here.

Once again you said: "I haven't seen him leaving a negative feedback for just advertising BTCJam link here."
But apparently you say I "you are asking an indirect loan here", which clearly in my original thread I clarify that I was not looking for a loan here but on BTCjam.
So where do I stand with your biased view?
I am fine under your terms of advertising my BTCjam link, and also NOT fine under your same terms of posting a BTCjam link here.

Do the math

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: SavellM on May 29, 2015, 11:12:18 AM

Wow look at my scam!
Its even paid back...

https://btcjam.com/listings/44059-building-investments

Take a look!

I've always been of the opinion that Vod does a good job of outting scammers, but should probably fine-tune his alert threshold. Also needs to be a lot more diligent about going back and reviewing past cases and reevaluating whether they still warrant a negative rating. I'm not beyond editing my Trust list to remove those who clearly and consistently get out of hand.

I mean, that is if/when I can get access to my actual account restored

I agree, and this is all I am asking.

Tomatocage1

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Quote from: SavellM on May 29, 2015, 11:12:18 AM

Wow look at my scam!
Its even paid back...

https://btcjam.com/listings/44059-building-investments

Take a look!

I've always been of the opinion that Vod does a good job of outting scammers, but should probably fine-tune his alert threshold. Also needs to be a lot more diligent about going back and reviewing past cases and reevaluating whether they still warrant a negative rating. I'm not beyond editing my Trust list to remove those who clearly and consistently get out of hand.

I mean, that is if/when I can get access to my actual account restored

Muhammed Zakir

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Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:30:46 AM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

According to your view, you are asking an indirect loan here. That is enough for a negative feedback as you don't have any trust here.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

No I am not, and if you look through the origional thread I even just saw this:

Quote from: SavellM on May 29, 2015, 11:55:58 AM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

legendster

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Merit: 764

www.V.systems

Well thanks for investing, and glad I someone here gets it.

But anyway I detest looking at my account and seeing in bright red: "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!"

This is an unfair characterization due to Vod being overzealous!
This is my one and only gripe I now have been labeled even tho I did not scam anyone, and have stayed true to my word @ BTCjam.

Lastly I have no rant with Quickboy just Vod

You wanna entertain yourself go see how I was criticized when I tried to start something big a long time ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195234.0;

SavellM

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Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Well thanks for investing, and glad I someone here gets it.

But anyway I detest looking at my account and seeing in bright red: "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!"

This is an unfair characterization due to Vod being overzealous!
This is my one and only gripe I now have been labeled even tho I did not scam anyone, and have stayed true to my word @ BTCjam.

Lastly I have no rant with Quickboy just Vod

legendster

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Quote from: SavellM on May 29, 2015, 11:27:59 AM

Well I tried to PM Vod to end this amicability but he has blocked me so Vod, read this:

Hi there.

So as you can see I have paid back this loan.
https://btcjam.com/listings/44059-building-investments

So you wanna remove your negative feedback and I will do the same and we part ways?
Clearly I am no scam considering its paid back, cause you know scams dont pay back loans because they dont care about their rep.

Chill your pill bro, even I was 'attacked' by Quickseller when I posted a loan on Jam based on a deal on this forum. These wanna be vigilantes will go to ANY extent to prove their worth to this community. Vod LEFT Jam cuz Jam as a funding platform didnt endorse his nuisance.

But hey ~~Quickie Boy's raNting~~ Voodo master's over-zealousness didnt stop you from getting a loan, you got it & have repaid it as well (I was an investor). So just relax and prove your worth over time. By the time when you have spent a million days on this forum and proved to the community about your legibility; those Vod/Quickseller negs on you would automatically become redundant, stupid & embarrassing & they will remove it themselves.

(did I screw up my grammar with themselves ??)

Make no mistake, Vod / Quickie Boy are good guys here but they're also arrogant in some cases and as it stands now have the potential to defame ANYONE.

Muhammed Zakir

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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 29, 2015, 11:20:58 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 29, 2015, 11:17:13 AM

Arrrgggggg.....

Listen to yourself.

You said: "I haven't seen him leaving a negative feedback for just advertising BTCJam link here."

What do you think I did!?!?!?!?!
What do you think was in that link?

Yes. He doesn't leave *just* for asking loan. He left because you don't have a reputation to be able to trust with 7.5BTC and you were lying in that thread too.

MK, stop being a Vod fanboy.

MZ not MK. I am not a Vod fanboy. You are missing a point and I am trying to poin it.

What do you think that post was?

You asking *Bitcointalk* lenders to fulfill your loan request.

Where did I lie? If its about waiting then stuff it, I dont need to live by Vods rules on other sites.

You didn't look my feedback, did you?