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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16231. (Read 26610320 times)

legendary
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You guys are using (MSM) it wrong.

MSM, especially in the first 24h, have to put the headlines out as fast as possible, usually with unconfirmed, contradictory or plainly wrong "facts" and speculation.

It is your job to use it as a "reference" to find the facts and check the raw sources for yourself and draw your own conclusions. If you do this you will usually find out that the only "conspiracy" that there is is the incompetent job of most MSM.

Please stop implying dozens of people didn't die and several hundreds of others didn't get injured. It happened.
legendary
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legendary
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Torque, what exactly is your thesis here? Because there are real dead people there.

That real people don't die, or can't die, in a false flag event is a fallacy. They can and they do.

But does that justify lying to the people about the event itself, or the details of the event? Does that justify the police changing their story a half dozen times? Does that justify using crisis actors (fact and proven)? Does that justify fabricating the number of actual wounded and/or the dead?

Are you fkn kidding me if I even have to devise a 'thesis' on this shit because some people might have died? And truthfully, how would we even know? Because of a friend-of a friend-of a neighbor-of a co-worker-of a stranger online says that they have a family member who died?

I know there's a lot of misinformation about it, and a lot of people seem to be using the event to spin for their team. But false flag is a fkn bold claim. Unless you write for the Daily Stormer, I expect a bit more to back it up.

It could just as easily have been somebody paid the guy to do it to boost gun stalks. There's just not enough reliable information available to form a sensible conclusion.

False flag

1) Facts in media within 24 hours they told you what happened

2) Facts do not match

3) Fake news, new conspiracies

Fasle flag effective

next story


legendary
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Torque, what exactly is your thesis here? Because there are real dead people there.

That real people don't die, or can't die, in a false flag event is a fallacy. They can and they do.

But does that justify lying to the people about the event itself, or the details of the event? Does that justify the police changing their story a half dozen times? Does that justify using crisis actors (fact and proven)? Does that justify fabricating the number of actual wounded and/or the dead?

Are you fkn kidding me if I even have to devise a 'thesis' on this shit because some people might have died? And truthfully, how would we even know? Because of a friend-of a friend-of a neighbor-of a co-worker-of a stranger online says that they have a family member who died?

I know there's a lot of misinformation about it, and a lot of people seem to be using the event to spin for their team. But false flag is a fkn bold claim. Unless you write for the Daily Stormer, I expect a bit more to back it up.

It could just as easily have been somebody paid the guy to do it to boost gun stalks. There's just not enough reliable information available to form a sensible conclusion.
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
Is it good time to sell or to buy bitcoin?

No one knows and if they say they do it's bullshit. I'd suggest doing your own research and making your own mind up. Me personally I'm here for the long term so price movements now are meaningless

Nonsense. The best time anyone has to buy Bitcoin is always today. The worst time is always tomorrow. For unless one buys in, they will be forever waiting for the perfect moment - while the rocket leaves them in the dust.
legendary
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Torque, what exactly is your thesis here? Because there are real dead people there.

That real people don't die, or can't die, in a false flag event is a fallacy. They can and they do.

But does that justify lying to the people about the event itself, or the details of the event? Does that justify the police changing their story a half dozen times? Does that justify using crisis actors (fact and proven)? Does that justify fabricating the number of actual wounded and/or the dead?

Are you fkn kidding me if I even have to devise a 'thesis' on this shit because some people might have died? And truthfully, how would we even know? Because of a friend-of a friend-of a neighbor-of a co-worker-of a stranger online says that they have a family member who died?

The govt, media, and shadow agencies behind this shooting are not justified to fabricate or hoax any part of it to the public, just because some real people died. That does NOT just make it ok. In fact, we should all be outraged.
legendary
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Fake blood, fake wounds and bad acting aside. Funny thing is, not one of those supposed 'deceased' victims in that Liveleak video are one of the actual people listed in the final obituary.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/10/us/las-vegas-shooting-victims/

Not one. But does America care? Does the world care? Apparently not. We're all ok with crisis actors being passed off as real dead people and then not showing up in the official obituary list.  Roll Eyes

The funniest youtube video (now taken down) I saw was when Mike Cronk's buddy Rob Macintosh was supposedly hit 3 times in the chest from 300 yards away. Yeah, right. And then Mike visited him the next day in the hospital's IC unit after Rob's emergency "surgery". Rob was fully awake, conscious, no oxygen concentrator, no IV drip, and the equipment wasn't even hooked up to him.  Roll Eyes

Edit: Here's a follow up on Rob's story. Notice the magically moving injuries! What an amazing recovery from those 3 gunshots to the chest!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWwEduID5O0

Torque, what exactly is your thesis here? Because there are real dead people there.
sr. member
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Will clonecoin ever hit 1k? I'm not even mad if it doesn't, but it would be nice.

I like that one.... "clonecoin"...   Cheesy Cheesy

Jayjuangee, you´re so full of yourself, let´s make a new list, at the beginning you´re at the top, but as time goes by, you slide down, and nobody can help you  Smiley

That was damn funny and I don't know why Cheesy

The difference is just: It´s not funny  Smiley
legendary
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Will clonecoin ever hit 1k? I'm not even mad if it doesn't, but it would be nice.

I like that one.... "clonecoin"...   Cheesy Cheesy

Jayjuangee, you´re so full of yourself, let´s make a new list, at the beginning you´re at the top, but as time goes by, you slide down, and nobody can help you  Smiley

That was damn funny and I don't know why Cheesy
STT
legendary
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Your car example is spot on. CPI is one of the very bogusest statistics, everywhere in the world. One of the best ways for guvments to obfuscate the real inflation rate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_regression

I agree on the mention of how this affects GDP outlook also, its really a big issue.   Eventually they do have to reset or default some of these liabilities that have built up, its that or we do have inflation of the monetary base that has exceeded growth.   The positive thing would be to trim government and admit some default, the negative scenario is they end up impairing positive real businesses.   The FED model is to only ever gradually release inflation, I think thats their plan.

Quick look at BTC has it following a trend line that is true for most of 2017.    Sometimes falling below, hitting support 4119 and back above so its like a tightrope more then a hard ceiling or support this trend for now anyway.  25759 CNY roughly equates as support.
Kraken Euro price fits within fib lines I think 3531 matching that last low and I would draw a short term trend from that low as well, so looking positive
sr. member
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Will clonecoin ever hit 1k? I'm not even mad if it doesn't, but it would be nice.

I like that one.... "clonecoin"...   Cheesy Cheesy

Jayjuangee, you´re so full of yourself, let´s make a new list, at the beginning you´re at the top, but as time goes by, you slide down, and nobody can help you  Smiley
legendary
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Fake blood, fake wounds and bad acting aside. Funny thing is, not one of those supposed 'deceased' victims in that Liveleak video are one of the actual people listed in the final obituary.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/10/us/las-vegas-shooting-victims/

Not one. But does America care? Does the world care? Apparently not. We're all ok with crisis actors being passed off as real dead people and then not showing up in the official obituary list.  Roll Eyes

The funniest youtube video (now taken down) I saw was when Mike Cronk's buddy Rob Macintosh was supposedly hit 3 times in the chest from 300 yards away. Yeah, right. And then Mike visited him the next day in the hospital's IC unit after Rob's emergency "surgery". Rob was fully awake, conscious, no oxygen concentrator, no IV drip, and the equipment wasn't even hooked up to him.  Roll Eyes

Edit: Here's a follow up on Rob's story. Notice the magically moving injuries! What an amazing recovery from those 3 gunshots to the chest!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWwEduID5O0
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Fact... illegally acquired and modified firearms. Told to you as fact by whom? The MSM? SMH

Go hang out on Voat, t_d on Reddit, or /pol/ on 4chan.

Fuck the MSM.

EDIT: The recent Las Vegas shooting death toll is just a regular month in Chicago.

Maybe you missed the fact that that's mostly gang bangers shooting gang bangers, not an attack on a crowd of innocent concert goers
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Will clonecoin ever hit 1k? I'm not even mad if it doesn't, but it would be nice.

I like that one.... "clonecoin"...   Cheesy Cheesy
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Will clonecoin ever hit 1k? I'm not even mad if it doesn't, but it would be nice.
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kraken down?

A few minutes ago, yes. Working now...
I guess they were rehearsing for the fork.  Grin
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