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It's only the chinese and regular folks prone to panic who are dumping.

The real whales are accumulating at these prices.

Don't take my word for it. Go back a few pages and carefully read Loaded's posts. They are quite telling (and bullish).....

I speculate he's one of the whales who are dumping right now, in order to buy back lower, because it just makes sense.
I mean hey guys I know you all need a hero figure but he is a portfolio manager! Making money for his customers is his job.
I speculate that he dumped close enough to the top and he cashed out fiat. Then he flew to China with bags of cash, and he gave them directly to Bobby Lee in order to deposit them on his BTCChina account. The he slowly bought coins, causing the price rise in BTCChina.
And now he is closing the circle and dumping again, for a second final round of this "squeeze-a-nob" game.

Yes, that's all certainly possible.

My only point is that if real big whales are accumulating (either at 300 or 500), it's because they know they will soon have ROI.  They know the accumulation game is coming to an end.

2014 will make the $1240 top a joke.

Listen, I read loaded's posts. You guys have to understand that if he really was carrying bags of cash, he would not have been able to set foot on Chinese soil... Do any of you live in the real world? If he has off-shore entities and his cash that is a wire away, that is slightly different. Still though, there is no reason for him to go there to put money back into the Chinese exchange. Government trumps Bobby ability to find a willing third party payment system.

He went there to talk about what is next, and how can he move his wealth accordingly. Buying back in on a exchange chocked by government, I don't think so.
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The exponential trend of USDBTC from the start of Bitcoin (3.1.2009-) is already quite established. I recalculate it monthly, and during the last 12 months the slope of the trendline has fluctuated only 2.9%! Expressed in doubling time, its trend has been between 96 days 8 hours and 99 days 0 hours for the whole year. According to SlipperySlope, the trend is the beginning part of a logistic function of bitcoin adoption. The model leads to $1M/BTC in 2016-17.

We are now at $443 in the exponential trend. The definition of "trend" is that price stays as long time above it as it spends below it. The tops of April and November were >3x the trendprice. The lows in between were 30-50% below the trend.

If this holds, it is near certain to go below 500, more likely than not to cross 400, but unlikely to touch 300.

April crash had 3 capitulations in $60 range, and now we have just seen 1 so far, it is very likely that more follows.
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if it goes up for 20 minutes buy, down for 20 minutes sell?

shouldn't that be seconds instead?  Grin
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if it goes up for 20 minutes buy, down for 20 minutes sell?

I think *this* is closer. Thank you, jojo. I going back to watching Woochi try and find the magic flute to become the Tao master... sheesh.
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Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
So... buy high, sell low?

Lol. Brilliant.
It's only the chinese and regular folks prone to panic who are dumping.

The real whales are accumulating at these prices.

Don't take my word for it. Go back a few pages and carefully read Loaded's posts. They are quite telling (and bullish).....

I speculate he's one of the whales who are dumping right now, in order to buy back lower, because it just makes sense.
I mean hey guys I know you all need a hero figure but he is a portfolio manager! Making money for his customers is his job.
I speculate that he dumped close enough to the top and he cashed out fiat. Then he flew to China with bags of cash, and he gave them directly to Bobby Lee in order to deposit them on his BTCChina account. The he slowly bought coins, causing the price rise in BTCChina.
And now he is closing the circle and dumping again, for a second final round of this "squeeze-a-nob" game.

Yes, that's all certainly possible.

My only point is that if real big whales are accumulating (either at 300 or 500), it's because they know they will soon have ROI.  They know the accumulation game is coming to an end.

2014 will make the $1240 top a joke.

"Land grab" coming to and end?

Yup, Cameron Winklevoss also expressed something along these lines the other day. Paraphrasing, he said we're entering full mania mode rather sooner than later, and when it happens, it will be SO VERY fast. If you have not been accumulating, there will be no time left.
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Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
So... buy high, sell low?

Seriously, this type of system does not work with BTC time-frame. All the strategy really is, is glorified trend position trading. In btc, that would have blew your account faster than you can imagine.
Right, neither did I suggest it works or that the time-frame wouldn't need to be adjusted were it to be tried, rather responding to magicmexicans thoughts about other's trades informing his movements.
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if it goes up for 20 minutes buy, down for 20 minutes sell?
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Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
So... buy high, sell low?

Lol. Brilliant.
It's only the chinese and regular folks prone to panic who are dumping.

The real whales are accumulating at these prices.

Don't take my word for it. Go back a few pages and carefully read Loaded's posts. They are quite telling (and bullish).....

I speculate he's one of the whales who are dumping right now, in order to buy back lower, because it just makes sense.
I mean hey guys I know you all need a hero figure but he is a portfolio manager! Making money for his customers is his job.
I speculate that he dumped close enough to the top and he cashed out fiat. Then he flew to China with bags of cash, and he gave them directly to Bobby Lee in order to deposit them on his BTCChina account. The he slowly bought coins, causing the price rise in BTCChina.
And now he is closing the circle and dumping again, for a second final round of this "squeeze-a-nob" game.

Yes, that's all certainly possible.

My only point is that if real big whales are accumulating (either at 300 or 500), it's because they know they will soon have ROI.  They know the accumulation game is coming to an end.

2014 will make the $1240 top a joke.

"Land grab" coming to and end?
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Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
So... buy high, sell low?

Ha, that's exactly what I thought too Justin justus! The idea is 20+ indicates an up trend, and, what's not to like, and vice versa. (I still look forward to plowing through your writing on Lex Cryptographia, btw, must wait till I don't have a fever-- all I can do now is watch kung fu movies and make $). Nice to be in a smart community.
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Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
So... buy high, sell low?

Seriously, this type of system does not work with BTC time-frame. All the strategy really is, is glorified trend position trading. In btc, that would have blew your account faster than you can imagine.
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It's only the chinese and regular folks prone to panic who are dumping.

The real whales are accumulating at these prices.

Don't take my word for it. Go back a few pages and carefully read Loaded's posts. They are quite telling (and bullish).....

I speculate he's one of the whales who are dumping right now, in order to buy back lower, because it just makes sense.
I mean hey guys I know you all need a hero figure but he is a portfolio manager! Making money for his customers is his job.
I speculate that he dumped close enough to the top and he cashed out fiat. Then he flew to China with bags of cash, and he gave them directly to Bobby Lee in order to deposit them on his BTCChina account. The he slowly bought coins, causing the price rise in BTCChina.
And now he is closing the circle and dumping again, for a second final round of this "squeeze-a-nob" game.

Yes, that's all certainly possible.

My only point is that if real big whales are accumulating (either at 300 or 500), it's because they know they will soon have ROI.  They know the accumulation game is coming to an end.

2014 will make the $1240 top a joke.

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Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
So... buy high, sell low?
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Lol at all the doge talk in here.

MY MY MY there are a lot of coins moving around in the blockchain

Lol yeah, DOGECOIN is the only troll/altcoin I like, where's the fun of LTC? I hope it dies.
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ooooh, come on, give me some more <$400 coins!

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What happens when china wakes up in a crash?

If there is a crash. That attempt to create panic seems to have fizzled

Doubt this is attempt to create panic, rather the opposite. Whale(s) dumping over time.

I don't think you're reading the situation right.

It's only the chinese and regular folks prone to panic who are dumping.

The real whales are accumulating at these prices.

Don't take my word for it. Go back a few pages and carefully read Loaded's posts. They are quite telling (and bullish).....

Well, if I'm reading it wrong it is still making me coins  Grin

(As in sitting gloriously in fiat, hodling fiat you might say )

Stop it. Hodling fiat is illegal in many countries. Wait...

Ewwwwwwwwwww....   
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Duelbits.com
It only started, we're going down more...
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What happens when china wakes up in a crash?

If there is a crash. That attempt to create panic seems to have fizzled

Doubt this is attempt to create panic, rather the opposite. Whale(s) dumping over time.

I don't think you're reading the situation right.

It's only the chinese and regular folks prone to panic who are dumping.

The real whales are accumulating at these prices.

Don't take my word for it. Go back a few pages and carefully read Loaded's posts. They are quite telling (and bullish).....

Well, if I'm reading it wrong it is still making me coins  Grin

(As in sitting gloriously in fiat, hodling fiat you might say )

Stop it. Hodling fiat is illegal in many countries. Wait...
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Question - do you ever take into the accounts the last "big" trades before making a decision? For example, if you that someone just dumped a big chunk of btc -does it give that trade more credit because the person should know what he is doing?

Sometimes its tempting just to follow large numbers - "well, these people cant be stupid for selling/buying now", thats what i think sometimes.

Have you heard of turtle trading? Simplest trading system-- I think it goes, if up 20 days (or whatever in BTC), then buy, if 20 down, sell. Has very good followers and record. Funny.
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Lol at all the doge talk in here.

MY MY MY there are a lot of coins moving around in the blockchain
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